#How right wingers debate Enron
Zepp the Weasel
Steve Canyon (Ace)
wrote:
>The GOP Guide to Debating the Enron Scandal
>
> http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2002/05/20/tomo/story.jpg
<chuckle> There is no Enron scandal to debate. It's over. Zepp and
his loony lefty buddies went down another dead end...
--Ace
Foxtrot
>The GOP Guide to Debating the Enron Scandal
>
> http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2002/05/20/tomo/story.jpg
All six panels of the cartoon are about how rotten it was for
Republicans to take contributions from Enron. The only time a
Democrat is mentioned, it's about how Lieberman should start
issuing subpoenas.
But in fact, Lieberman HIMSELF took Enron cash. Shucks, the
cartoonist must have forgotten to mention that little detail!
And yeah, Reps got more $$ from Enron, but Dems merrily
took 27% of it themselves. If my arithmetic is correct, the
cartoon should have been attacking Dems for 1.62 of those
6 panels in order to be fair. But as usual, Dems hypocritically
give themselves a free ride.
Grinfranklin
bankruptcy...until the poor investors of the Global Crossing big bankruptcy
came along...lol
Gallup did an open-ended poll recently...asked what the top five issues
people are concerned about this election year. Corporate ups and downs
didn't even make the top 5. Democrats simply are not used to being
ignored when they throw out their political smear spin on issues....but that
is exactly what voters are doing.
"Zepp the Weasel" <ze...@snowcrest.net> wrote in message
news:ca9332ae.02052...@posting.google.com...
no
>There is no Enron scandal to debate.
why would you imagine that?
do you think bush should have used stolen money
to abuse the election process?
The Big Weasel
>ze...@snowcrest.net (Zepp the Weasel) wrote:
>
>>The GOP Guide to Debating the Enron Scandal
>>
>> http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2002/05/20/tomo/story.jpg
>
>All six panels of the cartoon are about how rotten it was for
>Republicans to take contributions from Enron. The only time a
>Democrat is mentioned, it's about how Lieberman should start
>issuing subpoenas.
>
>But in fact, Lieberman HIMSELF took Enron cash. Shucks, the
>cartoonist must have forgotten to mention that little detail!
But Poot-Poot-Putschie took more than all Democrats COMBINED.
Care to tell us there's no link between Enron and this criminal
administration?
>
>And yeah, Reps got more $$ from Enron, but Dems merrily
>took 27% of it themselves. If my arithmetic is correct, the
>cartoon should have been attacking Dems for 1.62 of those
>6 panels in order to be fair. But as usual, Dems hypocritically
>give themselves a free ride.
Why are you spending 73% of your message attacking Republicans, Fauxy?
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The Big Weasel
wrote:
>The Democrats were all worried about the poor investors in the big
>bankruptcy...until the poor investors of the Global Crossing big bankruptcy
>came along...lol
>
>Gallup did an open-ended poll recently...asked what the top five issues
>people are concerned about this election year. Corporate ups and downs
>didn't even make the top 5. Democrats simply are not used to being
>ignored when they throw out their political smear spin on issues....but that
>is exactly what voters are doing.
Well, the MARKET is sweating the Enron/Global Crossing thing, because
they are losing their credibility, especially among overseas investers
who don't have a right wing junta controlling the press and assuring
them that Wall Street isn't a rigged game. They've been deserting the
US markets in droves.
I don't suppose your chortling over the "little investers" is going to
help that much.
>
>"Zepp the Weasel" <ze...@snowcrest.net> wrote in message
>news:ca9332ae.02052...@posting.google.com...
>> The GOP Guide to Debating the Enron Scandal
>>
>> http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2002/05/20/tomo/story.jpg
>
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Steve Canyon (Ace)
<yawn>
--Ace
no
>On Tue, 21 May 2002 00:26:19 -0400, no <none> wrote:
>
>>"Steve Canyon (Ace)" <thepa...@dont.tread.on.me> wrote:
>>
>>>There is no Enron scandal to debate.
>>
>>why would you imagine that?
>>
>>do you think bush should have used stolen money
>>to abuse the election process?
>
><yawn>
>
>--Ace
go ahead, roll over and go back to sleep
bush wants you that way
others will have to be awake and alert for you
Steve Canyon (Ace)
>"Steve Canyon (Ace)" <thepa...@dont.tread.on.me> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 21 May 2002 00:26:19 -0400, no <none> wrote:
>>
>>>"Steve Canyon (Ace)" <thepa...@dont.tread.on.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>>There is no Enron scandal to debate.
>>>
>>>why would you imagine that?
>>>
>>>do you think bush should have used stolen money
>>>to abuse the election process?
>>
>><yawn>
>>
>>--Ace
>
>go ahead, roll over and go back to sleep
Go ahead and rant and rave.....
....nobody of any importance is paying attention to you lefty fools...
......except for the entertainment value....
--Ace
Gary Kleppe
>ze...@snowcrest.net (Zepp the Weasel) wrote:
>
>>The GOP Guide to Debating the Enron Scandal
>>
>> http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2002/05/20/tomo/story.jpg
>
>All six panels of the cartoon are about how rotten it was for
>Republicans to take contributions from Enron. The only time a
>Democrat is mentioned, it's about how Lieberman should start
>issuing subpoenas.
>
>And yeah, Reps got more $$ from Enron, but Dems merrily
>took 27% of it themselves. If my arithmetic is correct, the
>cartoon should have been attacking Dems for 1.62 of those
>6 panels in order to be fair. But as usual, Dems hypocritically
>give themselves a free ride.
Actually, the cartoon was about how in lieu of actual discussion,
right-wingers mindlessly repeat the same brain-dead talking points that
they've been fed. You yourself, of course, have just demonstrated this
here. It's a shame people like you lack the sense of irony to appreciate
how funny you really are.
BTW, the author of This Modern World is very far from a Democratic party
supporter, and the idea that the cartoon gives the Dems a "free ride" is
ludicrous. Here's a few past installments that delineate TMW's view of
the Democrats:
http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2001/03/05/tomo/story.gif
http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2000/12/25/tomo/story.gif
http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2000/10/30/tomo/story.gif
http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2000/09/25/tomo/story.gif
Gary Kleppe
http://www.akane.org/gary/politics.html
http://www.execpc.com/~ajrc/
So-called president G. W. Bush: POT
WTC attackers, whoever they are or were: KETTLE
Murdered civilians in New York and Afghanistan: BLACK
Foxtrot
>Foxtrot <fox...@null.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2002/05/20/tomo/story.jpg
>>
>>All six panels of the cartoon are about how rotten it was for
>>Republicans to take contributions from Enron. The only time a
>>Democrat is mentioned, it's about how Lieberman should start
>>issuing subpoenas.
>>
>>And yeah, Reps got more $$ from Enron, but Dems merrily
>>took 27% of it themselves. If my arithmetic is correct, the
>>cartoon should have been attacking Dems for 1.62 of those
>>6 panels in order to be fair. But as usual, Dems hypocritically
>>give themselves a free ride.
>
>Actually, the cartoon was about how in lieu of actual discussion,
>right-wingers mindlessly repeat the same brain-dead talking points that
>they've been fed. You yourself, of course, have just demonstrated this
>here.
Did the cartoon bother to mention that many Dems took big
donations from Enron too?
It mentioned Lieberman, who was a recipient of Enron donations,
but it didn't mention his acceptance of Enron funds. Instead he
was shown as the potential defender of justice! LOL
>It's a shame people like you lack the sense of irony to appreciate
>how funny you really are.
It's a shame people like you are so full of yourselves that you
can't see how sanctimonious you really are.
>BTW, the author of This Modern World is very far from a Democratic party
>supporter, and the idea that the cartoon gives the Dems a "free ride" is
>ludicrous.
In *that* cartoon, he gave Dems a free ride.
klystron
fox...@null.com says...
Sounds like somebody is a little sensitive about Enron and the
GOP.
I'm not surprised. You have a lot to be sensitive about.
---
Do you realize that twelve Western States are now getting ready
to pretty much sue Enron out of existance? Those suits will
generate the documentation and testimony to deny Bush a second
term -- and could possibly earn him a trial in the Senate.
Think about it. As the sordid mess unfolds in a dozen State
Capitals, Reps from twelve States, including California, lobby
for impeachment. Fully thirty percent of the house and a quarter
of the Senate demands to testify before the House Impeachment
Committee against our sitting unelected President. Distinguished
witnesses include maybe fifteen sitting and former Governors.
Twenty States' Attorneys' General testify.
Knitted together, the testimony shows that Bush sold the
Presidency to Enron and a few other companies; and that Enron
raped the Western United States in order to regain their share of
what it cost to buy the Presidency.
Bush is impeached and plea-bargains his way to exile in Saudi
Arabia. The National Alliance buys the assets of the bankrupt GOP
at auction.
In 2004, the new GOP runs Trent Lott and David Duke as their
Presidential Ticket.
woof
no
>no <none> wrote:
>>"Steve Canyon (Ace)" <thepa...@dont.tread.on.me> wrote:
>>>no <none> wrote:
>>>>"Steve Canyon (Ace)" <thepa...@dont.tread.on.me> wrote:
>>>>>There is no Enron scandal to debate.
>>>>
>>>>why would you imagine that?
>>>>
>>>>do you think bush should have used stolen money
>>>>to abuse the election process?
>>>
>>><yawn>
>>>
>>>--Ace
>>
>>go ahead, roll over and go back to sleep
>>
>>bush wants you that way
>>
>>others will have to be awake and alert for you
>
>rant and rave.....
>....nobody of any importance
>--Ace
no wonder you can't be expected to participate
responsibly as a citizen in the government of the usa
you can't discern that enron involved crimes
you can't tell that bush wanted 9/11
Steve Canyon (Ace)
Still ranting and raving? Looking for monsters under your bed? W
has really got you lefties going bonkers, doesn't he?
--Ace
Robert W Lawrence
<>Sounds like somebody is a little sensitive about Enron and the
<>GOP.
<>
<>I'm not surprised. You have a lot to be sensitive about.
The only people who appear to be sensitive about Enron is the democrats as they
watched still another of their silver bullets crumble when exposed to the light
of day. they though enron would bring Bush down-when that didnt work they tried
to claim he knew about 9-11 and did nothing to stop it. not only was that one
still born but it blew up in their faces. Its going to be fun this
november!!!!!!!!!!!!
Robert Lawrence
"These opinions are mine, the opinions of my company AND
the opinions of all right thinking Americans"
Gary Kleppe
>Gary Kleppe <ga...@garykleppe.org> wrote:
>
>>Foxtrot <fox...@null.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2002/05/20/tomo/story.jpg
>>>
>>>All six panels of the cartoon are about how rotten it was for
>>>Republicans to take contributions from Enron. The only time a
>>>Democrat is mentioned, it's about how Lieberman should start
>>>issuing subpoenas.
>>>
>>>And yeah, Reps got more $$ from Enron, but Dems merrily
>>>took 27% of it themselves. If my arithmetic is correct, the
>>>cartoon should have been attacking Dems for 1.62 of those
>>>6 panels in order to be fair. But as usual, Dems hypocritically
>>>give themselves a free ride.
>>
>>Actually, the cartoon was about how in lieu of actual discussion,
>>right-wingers mindlessly repeat the same brain-dead talking points that
>>they've been fed. You yourself, of course, have just demonstrated this
>>here.
>
>Did the cartoon bother to mention that many Dems took big
>donations from Enron too?
Actually, the specific charge made against the Republicans in that
cartoon is having appointed Enron higher-ups to decision-making
positions. If any Democrats did that, it's news to me.
>It mentioned Lieberman, who was a recipient of Enron donations,
>but it didn't mention his acceptance of Enron funds. Instead he
>was shown as the potential defender of justice! LOL
He was shown as someone who ought to be doing his job, but isn't.
>>It's a shame people like you lack the sense of irony to appreciate
>>how funny you really are.
>
>It's a shame people like you are so full of yourselves that you
>can't see how sanctimonious you really are.
>
>>BTW, the author of This Modern World is very far from a Democratic party
>>supporter, and the idea that the cartoon gives the Dems a "free ride" is
>>ludicrous.
>
>In *that* cartoon, he gave Dems a free ride.
And in the other ones whose URL I posted, he criticized the *Democrats*
while ignoring the Republicans.
So if my arithmetic is correct, you should have spent eighty percent of
your last post denouncing those other four cartoons for being biased in
favor of the Republicans. Now why is it you didn't do that?
Try living up to your own standards, oh would-be guardian of the hen
house.
Foxtrot
>Foxtrot <fox...@null.com> wrote:
>>>>> http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2002/05/20/tomo/story.jpg
>>Did the cartoon bother to mention that many Dems took big
>>donations from Enron too?
>
>Actually, the specific charge made against the Republicans in that
>cartoon is having appointed Enron higher-ups to decision-making
>positions. If any Democrats did that, it's news to me.
The sleazebags at Enron had a lot of influence over many
politicians. They gave money to Dems including BJ Clinton,
Gray Davis, Joe Lieberman, and Chuck Schumer. Dems
are simply in way too deep themselves to criticize Reps.
>>It mentioned Lieberman, who was a recipient of Enron donations,
>>but it didn't mention his acceptance of Enron funds. Instead he
>>was shown as the potential defender of justice! LOL
>
>He was shown as someone who ought to be doing his job, but isn't.
Big deal!! The cartoon says "Enron had its tentacles into the
White House", then mentioned Lieberman as a potential
dispenser of justice--but doesn't even mention that HE took
money from Enron.
Does that sound fair to you?
>>>BTW, the author of This Modern World is very far from a Democratic party
>>>supporter, and the idea that the cartoon gives the Dems a "free ride" is
>>>ludicrous.
>>
>>In *that* cartoon, he gave Dems a free ride.
>
>And in the other ones whose URL I posted, he criticized the *Democrats*
>while ignoring the Republicans.
The subject at hand is the cartoon linked to at the beginning
of this thread. The rest of the cartoonist's history is irrelevant.
Gary Kleppe
>Gary Kleppe <ga...@garykleppe.org> wrote:
>
>>Foxtrot <fox...@null.com> wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2002/05/20/tomo/story.jpg
>>>Did the cartoon bother to mention that many Dems took big
>>>donations from Enron too?
>>
>>Actually, the specific charge made against the Republicans in that
>>cartoon is having appointed Enron higher-ups to decision-making
>>positions. If any Democrats did that, it's news to me.
>
>The sleazebags at Enron had a lot of influence over many
>politicians. They gave money to Dems including BJ Clinton,
>Gray Davis, Joe Lieberman, and Chuck Schumer. Dems
>are simply in way too deep themselves to criticize Reps.
As "This Modern World" is not written by a Democratic party member or
supporter, what does this comment have to do with anything?
Furthermore, who do you think *should* investigate and prosecute
wrongdoing in the Enron matter? Our government, in case you hadn't
noticed, is made up of Democrats and Republicans. I don't like it any
more than you do, but it's fact, and to throw up your hands and say that
they're all tainted and therefore nobody has the moral authority to do
anything about it means that Kenny boy and his chums conveniently get to
walk away untouched.
>>>It mentioned Lieberman, who was a recipient of Enron donations,
>>>but it didn't mention his acceptance of Enron funds. Instead he
>>>was shown as the potential defender of justice! LOL
>>
>>He was shown as someone who ought to be doing his job, but isn't.
>
>Big deal!! The cartoon says "Enron had its tentacles into the
>White House", then mentioned Lieberman as a potential
>dispenser of justice--but doesn't even mention that HE took
>money from Enron.
Why don't you get off your butt and post something worthwhile, Fauxy?
Just doing my bit here to show you as a potential dispenser of
worthwhile posts. No need to thank me. I'm sure you can tell how very,
very biased in your favor I am.
>Does that sound fair to you?
At least as fair as someone wanking over a cartoon that singles out the
Republicans for criticism but ignores others that do the same for the
Democrats.
>>>>BTW, the author of This Modern World is very far from a Democratic party
>>>>supporter, and the idea that the cartoon gives the Dems a "free ride" is
>>>>ludicrous.
>>>
>>>In *that* cartoon, he gave Dems a free ride.
>>
>>And in the other ones whose URL I posted, he criticized the *Democrats*
>>while ignoring the Republicans.
>
>The subject at hand is the cartoon linked to at the beginning
>of this thread. The rest of the cartoonist's history is irrelevant.
I see. Bias is only relevant if it's against someone you support, is it?
Foxtrot
>Foxtrot <fox...@null.com> wrote:
>>The sleazebags at Enron had a lot of influence over many
>>politicians. They gave money to Dems including BJ Clinton,
>>Gray Davis, Joe Lieberman, and Chuck Schumer. Dems
>>are simply in way too deep themselves to criticize Reps.
>
>As "This Modern World" is not written by a Democratic party member or
>supporter, what does this comment have to do with anything?
If you say so. But it's published in Salon, who obviously favor
Dems.
>Furthermore, who do you think *should* investigate and prosecute
>wrongdoing in the Enron matter? Our government, in case you hadn't
>noticed, is made up of Democrats and Republicans. I don't like it any
>more than you do, but it's fact, and to throw up your hands and say that
>they're all tainted and therefore nobody has the moral authority to do
>anything about it means that Kenny boy and his chums conveniently get to
>walk away untouched.
I'm not claiming that the Enron execs should get away with
breaking the law. Just that it's hypocritical for Dems to make
a political issue out of it when they themselves also took big
bucks from Enron.
>>Big deal!! The cartoon says "Enron had its tentacles into the
>>White House", then mentioned Lieberman as a potential
>>dispenser of justice--but doesn't even mention that HE took
>>money from Enron.
>
>Why don't you get off your butt and post something worthwhile, Fauxy?
>
>Just doing my bit here to show you as a potential dispenser of
>worthwhile posts. No need to thank me. I'm sure you can tell how very,
>very biased in your favor I am.
No, you're just pretending that biased left-wing propaganda
is fair and objective.
>>Does that sound fair to you?
>
>At least as fair as someone wanking over a cartoon that singles out the
>Republicans for criticism but ignores others that do the same for the
>Democrats.
They went into detail about Bush's connections with Enron,
but gave Lieberman and the rest of the Dems a pass. They're
biased. Just admit it, you look a fool when you avoid the
obvious.
>>>And in the other ones whose URL I posted, he criticized the *Democrats*
>>>while ignoring the Republicans.
>>
>>The subject at hand is the cartoon linked to at the beginning
>>of this thread. The rest of the cartoonist's history is irrelevant.
>
>I see. Bias is only relevant if it's against someone you support, is it?
No, it's only relevant if it has to do with the subject of the thread.
Why should I believe that the several other cartoons of his you
posted accurately reflect the cartoon in general? I could do
something similar, like find a few columns from the Washington
Times over the years that were kind to Dems, and post them
as alleged proof that they were liberal.
no
>no <none> wrote:
>>"Steve Canyon (Ace)" <thepa...@dont.tread.on.me> wrote:
>>>no <none> wrote:
>>>>"Steve Canyon (Ace)" <thepa...@dont.tread.on.me> wrote:
>>>>>no <none> wrote:
>>>>>>"Steve Canyon (Ace)" <thepa...@dont.tread.on.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>There is no Enron scandal to debate.
>>>>>>why would you imagine that?
>>>>>>do you think bush should have used stolen money
>>>>>>to abuse the election process?
>>>>><yawn>
>>>>go ahead, roll over and go back to sleep
>>>>bush wants you that way
>>>>others will have to be awake and alert for you
>>>rant and rave.....
>>>....nobody of any importance
>>>--Ace
>>no wonder you can't be expected to participate
>>responsibly as a citizen in the government of the usa
>>you can't discern that enron involved crimes
>>you can't tell that bush wanted 9/11
>Still ranting and raving
>--Ace
should you get over that, it'd benefit you to pay
some attention to who has stolen what from whom
and what has been done with the stolen money