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Kurt Nicklas  
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From: Kurt Nicklas <kurtnick...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 15:16:39 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 8 2012 6:16 pm
Subject: #Remember in November....
“I will be held accountable. I’ve got four years and … A year form
now, I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some
progress, but there’s still going to be some pain out there … If I
don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-
term proposition.”
Feb 2009

 
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From: "Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 17:05:14 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....
On Aug 8, 6:16 pm, Kurt Nicklas <kurtnick...@gmail.com> wrote:

> “I will be held accountable. I’ve got four years and … A year form
> now, I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some
> progress, but there’s still going to be some pain out there … If I
> don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-
> term proposition.”
> Feb 2009

I just love the smell of desperation, don't you?

 
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Discussion subject changed to "Catholicism (Re: #Remember in November....)" by Samuel Harrigon
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 More options Aug 8 2012, 10:56 pm
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From: Samuel Harrigon <samharri...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 21:56:47 -0500
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Subject: Catholicism (Re: #Remember in November....)

"Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > =93I will be held accountable. I=92ve got four years and =85 A year form
> > now, I think people are going to see that we=92re starting to make some
> > progress, but there=92s still going to be some pain out there =85 If I
> > don=92t have this done in three years, then there=92s going to be a one-
> > term proposition.=94
> > Feb 2009

> I just love the smell of desperation, don't you?

Well, they don't help themselves by making their leaders dress like the
bad guys in science fiction movies, do they? The church hierarchy's
continued presumption of moral authority in the wake of revelations that
the Church enables paedophilia, promotes AIDS and shelters terrorist
suspects is disgraceful. In the 19th Century, when Western Europe and
America were busy creating modern secular democracy, the Papal States
were still literally burning heretics in Italy. Nobody should have been
surprised that they were so amenable to the Nazis. The good news is that
the Church no longer has any meaningful claims to secular authority
outside their own little Mussolini-endorsed tinpot theocracy. If they
did, the poor bastards under their control would no doubt still be
living in a thirteenth century nightmare state.

 
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Discussion subject changed to "#Remember in November...." by Mike Painter
Mike Painter  
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 More options Aug 9 2012, 12:30 am
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From: Mike Painter <md.pain...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 21:30:50 -0700
Local: Thurs, Aug 9 2012 12:30 am
Subject: Re: #Remember in November....
On 8/8/2012 5:05 PM, Syd M. wrote:

> On Aug 8, 6:16 pm, Kurt Nicklas <kurtnick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I will be held accountable. I ve got four years and A year form
>> now, I think people are going to see that we re starting to make some
>> progress, but there s still going to be some pain out there If I
>> don t have this done in three years, then there s going to be a one-
>> term proposition.
>> Feb 2009

> I just love the smell of desperation, don't you?

Even the ultra conservative, Obama is going to destroy us and take
everything away from us, guy I work with now and again admitted to me
that there was no real difference between the two.

 
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Kurt Nicklas  
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 More options Aug 9 2012, 6:26 am
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From: Kurt Nicklas <kurtnick...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 03:26:17 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 9 2012 6:26 am
Subject: Re: #Remember in November....
On Aug 8, 8:05 pm, "Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Aug 8, 6:16 pm, Kurt Nicklas <kurtnick...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > “I will be held accountable. I’ve got four years and … A year form
> > now, I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some
> > progress, but there’s still going to be some pain out there … If I
> > don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-
> > term proposition.”
> > Feb 2009

> I just love the smell of desperation, don't you?

So does he have the economy fixed?

Why isn't he running on his record?

Hmmmm?


 
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 More options Aug 9 2012, 8:29 am
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From: raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 08:29:32 -0400
Local: Thurs, Aug 9 2012 8:29 am
Subject: Re: #Remember in November....
On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 15:16:39 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas

<kurtnick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>“I will be held accountable. I’ve got four years and … A year form
>now, I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some
>progress, but there’s still going to be some pain out there … If I
>don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-
>term proposition.”

That, of course, was contingent on the GOP nominating someone
electable to run against him. Too bad.

 
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From: raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:20:14 -0400
Local: Thurs, Aug 9 2012 9:20 am
Subject: Re: #Remember in November....
On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 03:26:17 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas

<kurtnick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Aug 8, 8:05 pm, "Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 8, 6:16 pm, Kurt Nicklas <kurtnick...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> > “I will be held accountable. I’ve got four years and … A year form
>> > now, I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some
>> > progress, but there’s still going to be some pain out there … If I
>> > don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-
>> > term proposition.”
>> > Feb 2009

>> I just love the smell of desperation, don't you?

>So does he have the economy fixed?

Did FDR have the economy fixed three years into his first term?

>Why isn't he running on his record?

Why is Romney running away from his own?

 
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 More options Aug 9 2012, 9:37 am
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From: 3109 Dead <d...@gone.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:37:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 03:26:17 -0700, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
> On Aug 8, 8:05 pm, "Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 8, 6:16 pm, Kurt Nicklas <kurtnick...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> > “I will be held accountable. I’ve got four years and … A year form
>> > now, I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some
>> > progress, but there’s still going to be some pain out there … If I
>> > don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-
>> > term proposition.”
>> > Feb 2009

>> I just love the smell of desperation, don't you?

> So does he have the economy fixed?

What have the Republicans done to fix it?  

What do they propose to do to fix it?

Non-veternarian fix, I mean.

> Why isn't he running on his record?

He is.  Obamacare, bin Laden, all of that.


 
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Lee Curtis  
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 More options Aug 9 2012, 11:02 am
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From: "Lee Curtis" <clee...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:02:20 -0500
Local: Thurs, Aug 9 2012 11:02 am
Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

Kurt Nicklas wrote:
> On Aug 8, 8:05 pm, "Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 8, 6:16 pm, Kurt Nicklas <kurtnick...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > “I will be held accountable. I’ve got four years and … A year form
> > > now, I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make
> > > some progress, but there’s still going to be some pain out there
> > > … If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to
> > > be a one- term proposition.”
> > > Feb 2009

> > I just love the smell of desperation, don't you?

> So does he have the economy fixed?

   Fixed - from all the damage Bush did to it.

   When can we expect the hiring surge from
all those tax cuts for the wealthy he signed?


 
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Lee Curtis  
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From: "Lee Curtis" <clee...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:37:03 -0500
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

   And he is right.

   Whoever wins in November we can count on:

More bailouts
More military adventurism
More secret Gitmo trials
More Patriot Act travesties
More TSA travesties
More more tweeking of the tax code
More federal raids on MJ clinics
More Cuban Embargo
More military spending
More "too big to fail" mergers
More Corporate welfare
More subsidies to "faith based" institutions
More tax breaks for exporting jobs


 
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SaPeIsMa  
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From: "SaPeIsMa" <SapeI...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 10:45:03 -0500
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

"Lee Curtis" <clee...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Try again numbnuts
The Mortgage meltdown was a process started by the Democrats, and
exacerbated by the Democrats over decades
    Bush just happened to be in the White House when the meltdown occurred

>   When can we expect the hiring surge from
> all those tax cuts for the wealthy he signed?

There you go being stupid again
    The tax cuts applied to ALL

You just demonstrated twice in a row that
1)    you are ignorant
2)    you are ideologically driven
3)    wrong premises lead to bad conclusions


 
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 More options Aug 9 2012, 11:46 am
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From: "SaPeIsMa" <SapeI...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 10:46:15 -0500
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

"Lee Curtis" <clee...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Well dang son, if things are so bad, why don't you just shoot yourself and
spare us your presence

 
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 More options Aug 9 2012, 11:59 am
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From: 3109 Dead <d...@gone.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:59:36 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

I always loved that right wing whine.  Carter did it, and everyone paid
their mortgages for TWENTY-NINE YEARS before suddenly deciding to default.

Right wing brains go real slow.


 
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Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 12:09:19 -0500
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

"SaPeIsMa" <SapeI...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You just demonstrated twice in a row that
> 1)    you are ignorant
> 2)    you are ideologically driven
> 3)    wrong premises lead to bad conclusions

Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings.

 
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:33:29 -0400
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

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Did Obama promise us he would?

I think he did.


 
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:34:19 -0400
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

"3109 Dead" <d...@gone.com> wrote in message

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Quite a bit actually.....but it's being held up in the Senate by Democrats.

 
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:35:59 -0400
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

"Lee Curtis" <clee...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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And Clinton.

After all, both had their hands in the pie.

Though to give Bush credit he repeatedly warned Congress of the looming
danger when they may have been able to head it off.

They chose to ignore him. Republicans and Democrats alike.

Turns out he was right in issuing his warnings....so why should we blame him
alone?


 
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Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:14:17 -0400
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....
On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:33:29 -0400, "Scout"

No, he said he'd be held accountable if he didn't.

 
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From: "Lee Curtis" <clee...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:23:14 -0500
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

     Who was president when the economy collapsed?

     What president destroyed the budget SURPLUS?

     Where are those WMD's we went to war over?

     And who is still paying for that war?

> The Mortgage meltdown was a process started by the Democrats, and
> exacerbated by the Democrats over decades    Bush just happened to be
> in the White House when the meltdown occurred

The Bush Administration directed Fannie and Freddie to
CUT their reserves just as the housing market was melting
down.
NY Times, Mar 20 2008

By reducing the extra cushion of capital the two companies
have been required to hold since 2004, the regulator, the
Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, is enabling
the companies to invest $200 billion more in home loans.
In essence, the companies are being allowed to take billions
of dollars that had been used as a reserve against possible
further losses and invest that money now in the housing market.

But critics said that if the housing market continued to
decline, the move could put the two companies on a less sure
footing and ultimately require a huge taxpayer bailout.

"I think it's very dangerous and it's a sign that people
are very frightened," said Thomas H. Stanton, an expert on
the two companies who teaches a course on credit risk at
Johns Hopkins University. "At a time in which finance
companies are holding questionable assets and facing losses,
regulators typically require more capital, not less."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/business/20fannie.html?
partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

> >  When can we expect the hiring surge from
> > all those tax cuts for the wealthy he signed?

> There you go being stupid again
>    The tax cuts applied to ALL

    Evasion noted. More money to the "job
creators" was supposed to create more jobs.

    So, like, where are they?


 
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Lee Curtis  
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Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:29:39 -0500
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

     Wrong.

http://www.economonitor.com/blog/2008/12/bush-wh-ignored-mortgage-meltdo
wn-warnings/


 
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From: "Lee Curtis" <clee...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:31:51 -0500
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

    The preceding has been brought to you by the
Compassionate Conservative wing of the GOP.

 
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:38:16 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....
On Aug 9, 2:23 pm, "Lee Curtis" <clee...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello, McFly, those were the excuses used by the incompetent buffoon
to elected the first time.

The incompetent buffoon had his chance.  He failed and continues to
fail miserably.  He makes Jimmy Carter look like Einstein.


 
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:22:41 -0500
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

"Jahnu" <Jahnud...@gamail.com> wrote in message

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> "SaPeIsMa" <SapeI...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> You just demonstrated twice in a row that
>> 1)    you are ignorant
>> 2)    you are ideologically driven
>> 3)    wrong premises lead to bad conclusions

> Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings.

Religion has also driven men to create institutions such as libraries,
schools, hospitals, hospices, great art and music.
Science has also given us great evil

But hey, let's not let facts get in the way of your bigotry and prejudice
    Far better to stick to superficial clich s
    That takes far less effort and thought


 
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:28:43 -0500
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Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

"Lee Curtis" <clee...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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That's as stupid a claim as blaming Bush for 9/11 a project started LONG
BEFORE he became president
Just like the economy collapse was started LONG BEFORE he became President

Such childish arguments are worthy of.. well children..

>     What president destroyed the budget SURPLUS?

What "budget surplus"
    The false one claimed by Clintonistas ?
And how much economic damage was caused by 9/11, while you're at it
    The shock and economic damage, both direct and indirect lasted much
longer than the actual attacks

>     Where are those WMD's we went to war over?

They were found, dummy
    Get yourself educated

>     And who is still paying for that war?

Everyone
Just like everyone pays for all the other wars before or since

Did you have a point ?
Or did you just need to prove yourself a superficial misinformed drone with
a bad case of BDS ?

Grow up and get over it

Until then, you're a waste of time.


 
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 More options Aug 9 2012, 5:27 pm
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From: "Scout" <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 17:27:08 -0400
Local: Thurs, Aug 9 2012 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: #Remember in November....

"raven1" <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote in message

news:3fv728lf25dc2sn8qrvkuu45k6amsbioos@4ax.com...

Which means he promised he was going to.

Can't be held accountable for something you didn't promise.


 
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