Philadelphia Inquirer Editor: Obama Disgracing Those Who Suffered or Died Wearing Uniform
Gandalf Grey
Wearing Uniform
By Steve Young
Created Jul 6 2008 - 1:24pm
This Sunday morning, Philadelphia Inquirer Asst Editor, Kevin Ferris, once
again went talk radio all over the Philadelphia Inquirer opinion pages, [1]
able to spin Gen. Wesley Clark's response to a question concerning John
McCain's readiness as president into a hyperbolic hit piece surmising that
Clark "denigrated the uniform" and that Barack Obama will "use the uniform
as needed, disgracing those who suffered or died wearing it."
Wow. Might as well pen Ferris in as Bill O'Reilly's fill in.
What Ferris chose to leave out was the context of Clark's response where
Face The Nation host, Bob Schieffer noted that Obama had not "ridden in a
fighter plane and gotten shot down." Clark said, ""Well, I don't think
riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be
president."
Nor did he include Clark's preface to his response, including..."I certainly
honor his service as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds
of thousands and millions of others in the armed forces, as a prisoner of
war."
Wow #2. Disgrace, thy name be honor. Or visa versa.
The Constitution is a wacky, kinda living, kinda not, document that explains
just what we Americans can get away with. It also frames the conditions
within which one can run for the position where one American can get away
with the most - President of the United States of America. And Clark's
comments were not a denigration of the uniform, but a reflection of the
document that our troops have fought and died to protect for over 200 years.
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"A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their
spells dissolve, and the people recovering their true sight, restore their
government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are
suffering deeply in spirit,
and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public
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back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at
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cmdr buzz corey
Yet Clark stood at the last simple-minded dummycrat convention and
expounded mightely about the military service of John Fraud Kerry and
how that meant he would be a great President. Yet we know of the fraud
of John Kerry and his military service and the denigrating of his
fellow vets in front of Congress after he came home.
Osama Obama is an anti-white, racists empty suit with big ears. No
disrespect intended to suit hangers or donkeys.
Falstaff
wrote:
Kerry served during Vietnam, just like McCain and Gore and Duke
Cunningham and Jim Webb and Jimmy Carter. Where was Cheney and Bush
and Rush and Hannity and O'Reilly - and you?
Blackwater
<vali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Philadelphia Inquirer Editor: Obama Disgracing Those Who Suffered or Died
>Wearing Uniform
Where's the "Wes Clark Disgracing ..." article ?
His REAL message - "Combat Service Means Exactly Dick".
Which is really odd, since Clark used HIS military rank
and experience as a "something" which made HIM worthy to
pontificate in front of the press. So I guess military
experience is worth dick, UNLESS you're Wes Clark.
May every soldier turn their rump towards him thrice a
day and fart in his general direction. Fer sure he just
lost Obama the votes of every ex-soldier and their
relatives ....
Patriot Games
<jaxfa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jul 7, 12:52�pm, cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com>
>wrote:
>> On Jul 7, 11:06 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Philadelphia Inquirer Editor: Obama Disgracing Those Who Suffered or Died
>> > Wearing Uniform
For 6 months.... He's not running.
> just like Gore
For four months... He's not running.
>Where was Cheney
Legal deferrments. He's not running.
>and Bush
National Guard. He's not running.
>and Rush
Legal deferrments. He's not running.
>and Hannity and O'Reilly
Don't know. They aren't running.
>- and you?
I was there. I'm not running either.
free....@gmail.com
General Clark does not have to kiss anyone's ass for stating the
obvious. Being a prisoner does not qualify you for commanding
experience. Being in a coma for 2 years does not make you a medical
expert.
W Spilman
"Patriot Games" <Pat...@America.Com> wrote in message
news:05t474plku0sj25m4...@4ax.com...
Liar. Only running from the truth.
WS
Kevin Cunningham
wrote:
General Clark served his nation, our president didn't. Can I make it
any simpler?
Now you've got a problem. There aren't a whole lot of generals who
support McBush. The generals know that the war in Iraq is a
disaster. So tell us, who are you going to attack general after
general? How will you attack their service while your burdened by
McBush?
4114 Dead
Lying again, Buzzy. Clark spoke at length, not only of Kerry's
indisputable heroism (indisputable except to right wing scum trying to
pass themselves off as normal decent people), but his long public
service.
McCain? Well, he spent a bunch of time as POW, which while heroic
didn't exactly count as military service, and has had a
less-than-steller run in the Senate.
4114 Dead
>On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:06:06 -0700, "Gandalf Grey"
><vali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Philadelphia Inquirer Editor: Obama Disgracing Those Who Suffered or Died
>>Wearing Uniform
>
> Where's the "Wes Clark Disgracing ..." article ?
>
> His REAL message - "Combat Service Means Exactly Dick".
How about "Eight years in a POW camp isn't exactly leadership-honing"?
And Lieutenant Commander is about the equivalent of Store Manager for
McDonalds.
abelincoln
shitboat bullshit.....
yawn....
mordacp...@hotmail.com
According to Repug Bill Frist, viewing a video tape of Terri Schiavo
gave him the expertise to declare she wasn't brain dead.
Patriot Games
You're wasting your time.
You've already been dismissed.
Patriot Games
Patriot Games
wrote:
>And Lieutenant Commander is about the equivalent of Store Manager for
>McDonalds.
Thanks for PROVING that YOU have ZERO military experience....
Bwahahahahhahahahahahah!!!
John
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:59:06 -0700 (PDT), Falstaff
>
But we've started a movement to draft you to be the ticket. Not sure
for which party, but we'll get you on the ballot in every state.
All your "friends" on Usenet are working tirelessly on their behalf to
get you on the ballot.
z
>
> - Show quoted text -
hmm: showing heroism and fortitude and defiance while at the mercy of
hostile foreign powers; well, that might be exactly what the
president who comes after george bush will have to do.
Patriot Games
SWEEEEEET!
>All your "friends" on Usenet are working tirelessly on their behalf to
>get you on the ballot.
YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHAW!
tops...@gmail.com
Wow. I was going to look up some of patriot games posts. Patriot is
averaging 6,500 posts a month. 6,500! Disregard anything he writes.
He is a paid shill.
topset72
Christopher Helms
> On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:38:12 GMT, b...@barrk.net (Blackwater) wrote:
> >On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:06:06 -0700, "Gandalf Grey"
> ><valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>Philadelphia Inquirer Editor: Obama Disgracing Those Who Suffered or Died
> >>Wearing Uniform
>
> > Where's the "Wes Clark Disgracing ..." article ?
>
> > His REAL message - "Combat Service Means Exactly Dick".
>
> How about "Eight years in a POW camp isn't exactly leadership-honing"?
Why should it be? How does repeatedly crashing qualify John McCain to
be in charge of anything other than a plane crash survival course?
Kevin Cunningham
>
So your people, the repug right evaded the draft. Our guys didn't.
Now tell us a story about Bush's service in the FunTime Guard.
n...@epix.net
>
> - Show quoted text -
Name the generals. BTW Obama didn't serve either.
BUSH IS NOT RUNNING!!!!!!!!!!
astr...@yahoo.com
I don't know, I know people from these groups, who never served and
say or infer that they served, but never fucking did. I don't believe
most of what you right-wingers say, cause you people lie all the
fucking time, because your motives are purely anti-Democrat, in the
most scumbag fashion.
astr...@yahoo.com
Heck even the generals, who you could tell were being insincere about
the motives and state of things, appeasing Bush, have turned to
reality. We could never survive if we all embraced injustice and lies.
Stevie Nichts
> Kerry served during Vietnam, just like McCain and Gore and Duke
> Cunningham and Jim Webb and Jimmy Carter. Where was Cheney and Bush
> and Rush and Hannity and O'Reilly - and you?
Ah, but you forgot one: Where was Barack Obama? Since
you wholeheartedly subscribe to the 'chickenhawk' narrative,
it's a fair question.
Perhaps you'd like to backpedal and mutter that the Founders
felt it vital to have a civilian Commander in Chief. It will not help,
but at least you would appear to have a clue.
Go on. Do go on.
*us*
>...BTW Obama didn't serve ...
It'll suffice if he doesn't betray US military personnel with lies
for his personal fun and profit.
cmdr buzz corey
wrote:
>
> General Clark does not have to kiss anyone's ass for stating the
> obvious. Being a prisoner does not qualify you for commanding
> experience. Being in a coma for 2 years does not make you a medical
> expert.
Getting three Purple Hearts for minor scratches so he could get out of
Nam, then coming home and denigrating his fellow vets by telling lies
about them to congress certainly didn't qualify John Fraud Kerry for
commanding experience, but that certainly did not stop Clark saying
what a hero John Fraud Kerry was and how all that war non-experience
would make him a great President.
cmdr buzz corey
> General Clark served his nation, our president didn't. Can I make it
> any simpler?
>
> Now you've got a problem. There aren't a whole lot of generals who
> support McBush. The generals know that the war in Iraq is a
> disaster.
It is? Guess you haven't been paying any attention to the news lately.
Even the left-wing news networks are reporting about how well things
are in Iraq. Even Maliki, the PM of Iraq now says the U.S. can set a
time table for withdrawing troops.
BAGHDAD — Iraq's prime minister said yesterday that the government
has defeated terrorism in the country, a sign of growing confidence
after recent crackdowns against Sunni extremists and Shiite militias.
Such attacks plagued Iraq after the U.S.-led invasion, but violence in
the country has now fallen to its lowest level in four years. The
change has been driven by the 2007 BUILDUP OF AMERICAN FORCES (the
surge you libs keep blabbering about that you claim failed), the Sunni
tribal revolt against Al Qaeda in Iraq and al-Maliki's crackdowns,
among other factors.
"Under the national unity government, the Iraqis have achieved
national feats ... that are now lighting the course of our march," al-
Maliki said.
Bolstered by this confidence, al-Maliki plans to visit the United Arab
Emirates today and also Italy and Germany later in the month —
apparently hoping that improved security at home will pay dividends in
greater international support.
Iraq is also enjoying a surge in oil revenue driven by record crude
prices and the highest production levels since Saddam's ouster. The
government expects to make a total of $70 billion from oil in 2008 if
prices stay high.
Planning to put some of this money to work, the Iraqi government held
a groundbreaking ceremony yesterday for a major project to refurbish
the main road to the Baghdad airport. The road was once considered one
of the most dangerous in the world but has become safer with the
decline in violence in the country.
Nice try kevieboy, but do attempt to keep up.
cmdr buzz corey
>
> Lying again, Buzzy. Clark spoke at length, not only of Kerry's
> indisputable heroism (indisputable except to right wing scum trying to
> pass themselves off as normal decent people), but his long public
> service.
Nice try dead, but John Fraud Kerry's non-heroism was exposed over and
over.
>
> McCain? Well, he spent a bunch of time as POW, which while heroic
> didn't exactly count as military service,
Yes it certainly does count as military service just as it did for all
other POW's. Another dud try by you.
>and has had a
> less-than-steller run in the Senate.
And you think Osama Obama has? The best Osama Obama could do most of
the few times he made any effort to show up is vote "present".
Osama Obama is simply a empty racists suit with big ears. No
disrespect intended to suit hangers or donkeys.
I know it's difficult but you really need to try and keep up, dead-
between-the-ears.
cmdr buzz corey
>
> How about "Eight years in a POW camp isn't exactly leadership-honing"?
I would say surviving eight years in a POW camp and being tortured is
pretty character building. You would have curled up and died after
eight days. I see why you go by "dead".
>
> And Lieutenant Commander is about the equivalent of Store Manager for
> McDonalds.
Which is more than Osama Obama could manage. Osama Obama couldn't
manage a one car parade, much less the running of the worlds greatest
country and super power.
Osama Obama is just an empty racists suit with big ears. No disrespect
4114 Dead
<cmdr-bu...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>On Jul 7, 4:41 pm, 4114 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Lying again, Buzzy. Clark spoke at length, not only of Kerry's
>> indisputable heroism (indisputable except to right wing scum trying to
>> pass themselves off as normal decent people), but his long public
>> service.
>
>Nice try dead, but John Fraud Kerry's non-heroism was exposed over and
>over.
Try again, little liar. Nobody except right wing whack jobs buys that
one.
Say, will Republicans be honoring injured vets by wearing bandaids
with little purple hearts on them at the convention this year?
Real class act, those Republicans. War heroes, each and every one of
them.
>>
>> McCain? Well, he spent a bunch of time as POW, which while heroic
>> didn't exactly count as military service,
>
>Yes it certainly does count as military service just as it did for all
>other POW's. Another dud try by you.
>
>>and has had a
>> less-than-steller run in the Senate.
>
>And you think Osama Obama has? The best Osama Obama could do most of
>the few times he made any effort to show up is vote "present".
>
>Osama Obama is simply a empty racists suit with big ears. No
>disrespect intended to suit hangers or donkeys.
>
>I know it's difficult but you really need to try and keep up, dead-
>between-the-ears.
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the_pc_jellybean!!
"cmdr buzz corey" <cmdr-bu...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:62d59d73-57c1-4102...@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
Fuck off, you gutless coward.
the_pc_jellybean!!
"cmdr buzz corey" <cmdr-bu...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:4ea8daa7-5b5c-4a65...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Nice try dead, but John<SMAK!>
Shutup, coward.
the_pc_jellybean!!
> Getting three Purple Hearts for minor scratches
You'll never know, coward.
Now shutup and piss off.
the_pc_jellybean!!
> I would say surviv<SMAK>!
Heres a white feather, now fuck off and die you gutless little cunt.
George Grapman
Steve
<zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:43:23 -0700 (PDT), cmdr buzz corey
><cmdr-bu...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jul 7, 4:41 pm, 4114 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Lying again, Buzzy. Clark spoke at length, not only of Kerry's
>>> indisputable heroism (indisputable except to right wing scum trying to
>>> pass themselves off as normal decent people), but his long public
>>> service.
>>
>>Nice try dead, but John Fraud Kerry's non-heroism was exposed over and
>>over.
>
>Try again, little liar. Nobody except right wing whack jobs buys that
>one.
The voters rejected Kerry because of the fraud that he was.
Steve
<zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 04:53:55 -0700 (PDT), Kevin Cunningham
><sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>Come on, scum bag, you attacked Kerry and Gore back when you repugs
>>were running Draft Dodger Bush. Now your holding your burned, scared
>>flag with the dollar sign high and yelling about McCain's bravery.
>>Yeah...McCain bravely divorced his first wife so he could marry a rich
>>second wife. He bravely serviced the Keating Five. He bravely voted
>>against giving any more money or aid to soldiers. He supports our
>>American health care system were money comes first, last and always.
>
>I wonder if Steve is going to wear a little bandaid with a purple
>heart on it to mock war vets the way the Republicans did at their last
>convention.
Nobody is going to do that to McCain. It was John Kerry who got the
paper cut purple hearts to get himself out of harms way.
Kevin Cunningham
Bush is on the ticket, his legacy is the mill stone around your neck.
Kevin Cunningham
Come on, scum bag, you attacked Kerry and Gore back when you repugs
Kevin Cunningham
wrote:
Come on, bunkie, your happy to lie for Bush, in fact when the Bushies
want you to you were happy to roll over and sit up. Kerry really
served in the real armed forces, Bush was a draft dodger. And you
supported the draft dodger. You supported the coked up, boozed up
side of the equation. Way to go, looser.
Tom Sr.
> On Jul 7, 3:58 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
> Wow. I was going to look up some of patriot games posts. Patriot is
> averaging 6,500 posts a month. 6,500!
When I stated this to him, even providing a link to his Google Groups
profile, he claimed he did no such thing. Patriot Games, a.k.a. Bob
Milby Jr. (which he also denies even though I proved that with another
link to his profile), is a multiple proven liar. Of course, he will
also deny this.
> Disregard anything he writes.
> He is a paid shill.
Nay. The Junior Milby is just a reactionary, ultraconservative,
bigoted, narrow-minded, prejudicial, irrational, disgusting, racist,
delusional, homophobic, fanatical, illogical, hate-filled, xenophobic,
hypocritical, vile, extremist, far-far-right-wing loser.
Has he started to SHRIEK yet? When he gets even more hysterical
because someone has proven him wrong, he starts typing almost every
other word in CAPITAL letters.
Oh, then he will killfile you, so he can delusionally believe in his
own brain he is always right.
I've seen the same pattern with Milby for nearly two years now. I
think he might also be obsessive compulsive.
-Tom Sr.
Tom Sr.
OTHER REPUBLICANS ARE!!!!!!!!!!
Bush's legacy of incompedence and stupidity is something they have to
deal with themselves..
Really, just how clueless do you *want* to prove yourself to be in
this?
-Tom Sr.
John
Nope, he's a retired Floridian who spews this crap on Usenet because
he knows it gets a rise out of people. He does it for kicks. I'd say
ignore his stupid and racist posts (97% of his posts) but pay
attention to his political posts where he discusses the race
rationally.
Problem is, you have to go through a lot of chaff to get to the wheat.
John
Obama was 12 or 13 when Vietnam ended.
4114 Dead
<sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
I wonder if Steve is going to wear a little bandaid with a purple
heart on it to mock war vets the way the Republicans did at their last
convention.
z
wrote:
>
> Nice try dead, but John Fraud Kerry's non-heroism was exposed over and
> over.
if only he hadn't been awarded those embarassing medals. you'd never
catch Bush receiving a medal.
cmdr buzz corey
> "cmdr buzz corey" <cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com> wrote in messagenews:99d974e4-928b-4832...@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Getting three Purple Hearts for minor scratches
>
> You'll never know, coward.
>
> Now shutup and piss off.
WOW!! Guess you really told me off....NOT!!!
cmdr buzz corey
> "cmdr buzz corey" <cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com> wrote in messagenews:4ea8daa7-5b5c-4a65...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Nice try dead, but John<SMAK!>
>
> Shutup, coward.
That the best you can do PC Belly Bean?
cmdr buzz corey
> "cmdr buzz corey" <cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com> wrote in messagenews:6df23855-b7f7-4481...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I would say surviv<SMAK>!
>
> Heres a white feather, now fuck off and die you gutless little cunt.
Typical simple-minded lib, when all else fails resort to name calling
and vulgarities. Nice try Belly Bean, but do attempt to keep up.
cmdr buzz corey
> On Jul 8, 10:27 pm,cmdr buzz corey<cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com>
And look who you are going to support.
OBAMA DRANK HEAVILY AND TRIED DRUGS ENTHUSIASTICALLY
"I kept playing basketball, attended classes sparingly, drank beer
heavily, and tried drugs enthusiastically," pg 93
OBAMA SAYS POT, BOOZE AND COCAINE HELPED HIM
"I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped,and
booze;maybe a little blow when you could afford it." (emphasis added)
pg 93
"When classmates in college asked me just what a community organizer
did, I couldn't answer them directly. Instead ,I'd pronounce the need
for change.
A looser supporting a looser. Way to go.
John Fraud Kerry's war record was just that, a fraud.
Osama Obama claims to be the candidate of hope and change, the change
is his right to change his mind and position as many times as he
wants, and the hope is he hopes no one notices.
Osama Obama is an empty racists suit with big ears. No disrespect
cmdr buzz corey
> On Jul 8, 10:43 pm,cmdr buzz corey<cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com>
You're right, is is embarrasing that he got those Purple Hearts for
scratches so minor they were treated with band-aids. A slap in the
face to other vets who actually received wounds worthy of a Purple
Heart.
John Fraud Kerry was and still is a fraud.
4114 Dead
Still clinging to your hateful and outdated lies, Buzzy? They don't
make you look like a big, brave Republican.
They just make you look like a spiteful moron.
Patriot Games
>On Jul 7, 3:58 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>Wow. I was going to look up some of patriot games posts. Patriot is
>averaging 6,500 posts a month. 6,500!
Is it really that many!?!?!
I don't keep count...
>Disregard anything he writes.
>He is a paid shill.
Bwahahahahahhahahaha!!!!
You cry like a little girl!
4114 Dead
You forgot to mention, Buzzy, just how old Obama was then.
Was he as old as your noble leader when he got his third DUI?
Was he as old as when he was unceremoniously dumped from the Texas Air
National Guard because he couldn't pass the blood tests?
Patriot Games
<tomswif...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jul 8, 3:00 pm, topse...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Jul 7, 3:58 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> Wow. I was going to look up some of patriot games posts. Patriot is
>> averaging 6,500 posts a month. 6,500!
>When I stated this to him, even providing a link to his Google Groups
>profile, he claimed he did no such thing.
Ask someone who isn't a negro homo to do the math for you. In an
8-hour day that would 27 posts PER HOUR.
>Patriot Games, a.k.a. Bob
>Milby Jr. (which he also denies even though I proved that with another
>link to his profile)
No, but you did embarass yourself pretty good!
>is a multiple proven liar. Of course, he will
>also deny this.
Prove it.
Patriot Games
<dahlgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jul 8, 1:00 pm, topse...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Jul 7, 3:58 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> Wow. I was going to look up some of patriot games posts. Patriot is
>> averaging 6,500 posts a month. 6,500! Disregard anything he writes.
>> He is a paid shill.
>he knows it gets a rise out of people.
Yep.
>He does it for kicks.
Yep.
>I'd say
>ignore his stupid and racist posts (97% of his posts) but pay
>attention to his political posts where he discusses the race
>rationally.
Now you done it! They're gonna HATE YOU for that!
The Ultra-Left (especially the Anarchist and Homos) have zero
tolerance!
>Problem is, you have to go through a lot of chaff to get to the wheat.
Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!
Patriot Games
<sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Jul 7, 3:58 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> <jaxfalst...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Jul 7, 12:52?pm, cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >> On Jul 7, 11:06 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Philadelphia Inquirer Editor: Obama Disgracing Those Who Suffered or Died
>> >> > Wearing Uniform
>> For 6 months.... He's not running.
>> > just like Gore
>> For four months... He's not running.
>> >Where was Cheney
>> Legal deferrments. He's not running.
>> >and Bush
>> National Guard. He's not running.
>> >and Rush
>> Legal deferrments. He's not running.
>> >and Hannity and O'Reilly
>> >- and you?
>> I was there. I'm not running either.
>So your people, the repug right evaded the draft.
Evaded the draft? No, that would be Clinton, who LIED, fled to
England, then LIED again to avoid military service.
Clinton is the only ACTUAL Draft DODGER in recent memory.
>Our guys didn't.
See above.
>Now tell us a story about Bush's service in the FunTime Guard.
The National Guard is considered military service. Beyond that I
don't know anything about the National Guard.
Oh, I don't know anything about Hannity & Leatherface or O'Reilly
regarding their military service.....
Patriot Games
>Patriot Games wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:59:06 -0700 (PDT), Falstaff
>> <jaxfa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Jul 7, 12:52?pm, cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >> On Jul 7, 11:06 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Philadelphia Inquirer Editor: Obama Disgracing Those Who Suffered or Died
>> >> > Wearing Uniform
>> > Kerry served during Vietnam
>> For 6 months.... He's not running.
>> > just like Gore
>> For four months... He's not running.
>> >Where was Cheney
>> Legal deferrments. He's not running.
>> >and Bush
>> National Guard. He's not running.
>> >and Rush
>> Legal deferrments. He's not running.
>> >and Hannity and O'Reilly
>> Don't know. They aren't running.
>> >- and you?
>> I was there. I'm not running either.
>say or infer that they served, but never fucking did.
The only one I'm aware of is "Lickin Ass & Fakin Names." She never
served yet claims to have made a career of the military! It was my
pleasure yesterday to DESTROY that claim......
>I don't believe
>most of what you right-wingers say, cause you people lie all the
>fucking time,
Feel free to CITE JUST ONE lie from me.....
>because your motives are purely anti-Democrat, in the
>most scumbag fashion.
Its not anti-Democrat, not exactly. I'm in my late 50s so when you
say "Democrat" I'm reminded of the REAL Democrats. The traditional
classic Democrats like JFK.
If JFK was alive today he'd have voted for Bush....
Today's Democrats aren't REAL Democrats. They're a weird mixture of
Euro-Socialists, Neo-Socialists, Marxists, etc.
Classic Democrats and classic Republicans BOTH despise today's
Socialist Democrats.
John
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 06:09:26 -0700 (PDT), John
>
You do it to the left, I do it to the right. The extremists of both
sides are so fun to screw with. They're so earnest when it's really
all just blah, blah, blah. They act like it really matters. Frankly
if they spent as much time working for the change they want than
screaming on Usenet, something might actually get done. Those are the
people who are especially fun to screw with.
John
And both despise today's Neo-Con Republicans. I actually like dealing
with real conservatives; at least you know where you stand and you
know they're not going to get in your business as long as you keep out
of theirs. My kind of people.
Kevin Cunningham
wrote:
> On Jul 7, 5:14 pm, 4114 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > How about "Eight years in a POW camp isn't exactly leadership-honing"?
>
> I would say surviving eight years in a POW camp and being tortured is
> pretty character building. You would have curled up and died after
> eight days. I see why you go by "dead".
>
>
>
> > And Lieutenant Commander is about the equivalent of Store Manager for
> > McDonalds.
>
> Which is more than Osama Obama could manage. Osama Obama couldn't
> manage a one car parade, much less the running of the worlds greatest
> country and super power.
>
> Osama Obama is just an empty racists suit with big ears. No disrespect
> intended to suit hangers or donkeys.
And your to cowardly to criticize your boui, Bush. He's a real
coward, ran from the Vietnam war, vaulted over 98 other applicants and
got into the FunTime National Guard. Cheney and Rove just got
deferments, even when they were supposed to sign up for the draft.
So explain to us, how can you attack Obama and let Bush off with a big
wet kiss?
Kevin Cunningham
Of course your Fearless Leader Bush smoked dope, sucked down coke and
booze but thats OK with you, right? Typical right winger, you don't
give a rats ass about what one of yours does. Cheney's and Rove are
draft dodgers, and that OK with you. Rush is a homo pill sucker with
no courage at all and he never went to college so he's a stupid homo
pill sucker with no courage.
It doesn't bother you that no one in the present administration ever
served in the real armed forces, no one ever served their countries
needs. You have no patriotism.
Kevin Cunningham
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 06:09:26 -0700 (PDT), John
>
Why worry about we dems outed homos? Why not worry about all the
closeted homos you repugs have. I mean Foley,Gannon, Limbaugh and
Senator Craig (still serving, thank you repugs in the senate). How
many more are there? The ones we already know about made for many a
laugh.
cmdr buzz corey
> You forgot to mention, Buzzy, just how old Obama was then.
>
> Was he as old as your noble leader when he got his third DUI?
>
> Was he as old as when he was unceremoniously dumped from the Texas Air
> National Guard because he couldn't pass the blood tests?
So where's your point besides on top of your little simple-minded
dummycart liberal head?
astr...@yahoo.com
Stevie Nichts wrote:
> On Jul 7, 1:59�pm, Falstaff <jaxfalst...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > � � �Kerry served during Vietnam, just like McCain and Gore and Duke
> > Cunningham and Jim Webb and Jimmy Carter. Where was Cheney and Bush
> > and Rush and Hannity and O'Reilly - and you?
>
> Ah, but you forgot one: Where was Barack Obama? Since
> you wholeheartedly subscribe to the 'chickenhawk' narrative,
> it's a fair question.
>
And Mr. Obama is not a chicken hawk, does that make any sense?
Clinton did some military options, he didn't send Americans to their
death on a conveyor belt, neither did Regean, neither did daddy bush,
neither did carter. At the least those sicko fucks Bush and Cheney
could have under their belts is sime goddamn military, since they are
killing American solders in Iraq for nothing, don't you think, at
least offer something better than, whop, no WMDs here. Especially
this:
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't
care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)
Rubber stamping condolence letters to heroic dead solders families.
Don't you mindless fucks pay attention to
SHIT leadership? Don't you people give a fuck.
Bush said he didn't care about what the next president does with the
war, he never cared.
astr...@yahoo.com
Steve wrote:
> Nobody is going to do that to McCain. It was John Kerry who got the
> paper cut purple hearts to get himself out of harms way.
Just because he isn't missing limbs, like the Bush assembly line is
doing to our solders, doesn't mean he
wasn't deserving of those hearts. He didn't believe in the war. Heck I
would gladly join the military today, since they lowered the
requirements, but I don't believe in this stupid Iraq door. I truly
believed in Deserts Storm and Desert Shield, but not this taxpayer
money diverting American mutilating monstrosity.
Think about this, if a Democrat proposed this war, you cowardly one-
sided fucks would not have supported it.
astr...@yahoo.com
Steve wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:00:46 -0700, 4114 Dead
> <zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:43:23 -0700 (PDT), cmdr buzz corey
> ><cmdr-bu...@mailcity.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Jul 7, 4:41 pm, 4114 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Lying again, Buzzy. Clark spoke at length, not only of Kerry's
> >>> indisputable heroism (indisputable except to right wing scum trying to
> >>> pass themselves off as normal decent people), but his long public
> >>> service.
> >>
> >>Nice try dead, but John Fraud Kerry's non-heroism was exposed over and
> >>over.
> >
> >Try again, little liar. Nobody except right wing whack jobs buys that
> >one.
>
> The voters rejected Kerry because of the fraud that he was.
Yea, easy to fucking say, kinda tough to fucking show. But you
mindless fucks had those simpleton swiftboat
ads think for you, that didn't even say anything in the first fucking
place. Heck Orielly reamed one of the swiftboaters with one simple
fucking question, that other right-wingers were too cowardly to ask in
the first place.
I've seen plenty of 'credible' Republicans acknowledge Kerrys service
as do I.
Kerry 'enlisted' before he graduated from yale. He 'volunteered' in
Vietnam, aside from his testimony in congress, if he had a (R) in
front of his name, he would be a hero to you fucks, huh?.
Bush, this was Bus, what a hero, err ZERO
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to
get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to
better myself by learning how to fly airplanes."
astr...@yahoo.com
Steve wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:00:46 -0700, 4114 Dead
> <zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:43:23 -0700 (PDT), cmdr buzz corey
> ><cmdr-bu...@mailcity.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Jul 7, 4:41 pm, 4114 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Lying again, Buzzy. Clark spoke at length, not only of Kerry's
> >>> indisputable heroism (indisputable except to right wing scum trying to
> >>> pass themselves off as normal decent people), but his long public
> >>> service.
> >>
> >>Nice try dead, but John Fraud Kerry's non-heroism was exposed over and
> >>over.
> >
> >Try again, little liar. Nobody except right wing whack jobs buys that
> >one.
>
> The voters rejected Kerry because of the fraud that he was.
You people attack ANY Democrat who is in the front, 'the voters' now
understand Republican trash politics and
the damage that it does..
The fraud has been this entire Bush presidency and it's trash
supporters.
---
There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me
- you can't get fooled again.
One year ago today, the time for excuse-making has come to an end.
I think the American people - I hope the American - I don't think, let
me - I hope the American people trust me.
There's only one person who hugs the mothers and the widows, the wives
and the kids upon the death of their loved one. Others hug but having
committed the troops, I've got an additional responsibility to hug and
that's me and I know what it's like.
astr...@yahoo.com
Patriot Games wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 05:18:44 -0700 (PDT), "Tom Sr."
> <tomswif...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 8, 3:00 pm, topse...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Jul 7, 3:58 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
> >> Wow. I was going to look up some of patriot games posts. Patriot is
> >> averaging 6,500 posts a month. 6,500!
> >When I stated this to him, even providing a link to his Google Groups
> >profile, he claimed he did no such thing.
>
> Ask someone who isn't a negro homo to do the math for you. In an
> 8-hour day that would 27 posts PER HOUR.
You do have 26,000 racked up according to google groups, they loose
posts from time to time to top it off.
Nothing I've seen you posts show any patriotism, or 'real' concern for
this country.
astr...@yahoo.com
Yea I have to members close to my family who are serving in Iraq. Bush
never had that experience of 'serving' in WAR, in the guard, like they
are doing. They might not make it, that's just a fact. Bush doesn't
care about their mothers, or respect their service in Iraq. That is a
fact also. I hope they make it,
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to
get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to
better myself by learning how to fly airplanes."
-the bush
Bush doesn't care about what happens with Iraq, the day he leaves
office. He's in it for self-gain.
4114 Dead
>
>
>Steve wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:00:46 -0700, 4114 Dead
>> <zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:43:23 -0700 (PDT), cmdr buzz corey
>> ><cmdr-bu...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Jul 7, 4:41 pm, 4114 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Lying again, Buzzy. Clark spoke at length, not only of Kerry's
>> >>> indisputable heroism (indisputable except to right wing scum trying to
>> >>> pass themselves off as normal decent people), but his long public
>> >>> service.
>> >>
>> >>Nice try dead, but John Fraud Kerry's non-heroism was exposed over and
>> >>over.
>> >
>> >Try again, little liar. Nobody except right wing whack jobs buys that
>> >one.
>>
>> The voters rejected Kerry because of the fraud that he was.
>
>You people attack ANY Democrat who is in the front, 'the voters' now
>understand Republican trash politics and
>the damage that it does..
>
>The fraud has been this entire Bush presidency and it's trash
>supporters.
They think the same tactics will work this time, and they don't
realize that the GOP lost whatever moral authority it once had. They
can huff all they want about blow jobs, but eventually they have to
answer questions about torture, corporate malfeasance, and the
encroachment on rights. They can smear to their heart's content, but
they still have to come to grips with the fact that their entire
philosophy is built on cowardice: they spy on people because they fear
us, they don't talk to adversaries because they are afraid, and they
oppose public control of the airwaves because they fear ideas that are
better than theirs.
>
>---
>There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
>Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me
>- you can't get fooled again.
>
>One year ago today, the time for excuse-making has come to an end.
>
>I think the American people - I hope the American - I don't think, let
>me - I hope the American people trust me.
>
>There's only one person who hugs the mothers and the widows, the wives
>and the kids upon the death of their loved one. Others hug but having
>committed the troops, I've got an additional responsibility to hug and
>that's me and I know what it's like.
--
What do you call a Republican with a conscience?
An ex-Republican.
http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=8827 (From Yang, AthD (h.c)
"Prosperity and peace are in the balance," -- Putsch, not admitting that he's against both
Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001
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Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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4114 Dead
Wow. Sure doesn't take you long to run out of ammo, does it.
You is a real GOP genius, aincha, boy?
astr...@yahoo.com
Many people make their own worlds on the internet, particularly
usenet. Some hacker types here use, lets just say some are the ones
who change names all the time.
> >I don't believe
> >most of what you right-wingers say, cause you people lie all the
> >fucking time,
>
> Feel free to CITE JUST ONE lie from me.....
Ok, if I cannot come up with something immediately, it's not my place
to say that. I'll put it on the burner, or forget about it or, look
through some posts, past or future.
> >because your motives are purely anti-Democrat, in the
> >most scumbag fashion.
>
> Its not anti-Democrat, not exactly. I'm in my late 50s so when you
> say "Democrat" I'm reminded of the REAL Democrats. The traditional
> classic Democrats like JFK.
I hear you, but everybody has their political definitions of what is
what. My favorite Democrat is today, is John Hickenlooper, mayor of
Denver. He is a business owner, owns pretty good sized successful
brewery, and bar food places. He is about the most liberal one could
possibly get, but he's effective.
He brought pride and revitalized the city, never had any political
experience before. Now after a nice dinner people can walk though the
well lit clean parks without getting mugged, generally, can walk down
what was the crack
head and drunk streets. The streets are clean because the city
provides nice clean looking green trash cans
nearly everywhere.
He downsized the many parts of the previous Democrats bloated thug
punk government, he did get threats of sorts, but when all was said
and done he cleaned up the business as usual scumbag lazy city worker
way a running government.
It's more efficient, does more with less without undue burden on any
section.
>
> If JFK was alive today he'd have voted for Bush....
Yea I'm not too familiar with him.
> Today's Democrats aren't REAL Democrats. They're a weird mixture of
> Euro-Socialists, Neo-Socialists, Marxists, etc.
Yea, like I said, everybody defines politics their own way, but I will
say there are many Democrats that
are just worthless self-serving ass-munches. They would be better of
if they and their position wasn't there.
If a person is worthless in a position, often the position is also. Or
they are paid waaay too much.
> Classic Democrats and classic Republicans BOTH despise today's
> Socialist Democrats.
I consider Bush like the scumbag Democrat I was talking about. But the
Democrat was scumbag well liked and got elected to an extra term, that
violated the Colorado Constitution. At the very end of his term, he
said it was finally time to work for the people. He literally got
elected because he was black. Surely not on his performance.
Like Hickenlooper, Obama talks of working for the people. I saw him in
congress, before he was very well known,
tell ya, if you like politicians who serve the people and not
themselves, then he is the guy.
If you care to, you can google hickenlooper, Denver is where the
Democrat acceptance and convention will be.
astr...@yahoo.com
Kevin Cunningham wrote:
> On Jul 8, 10:56 pm, cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com>
> wrote:
> > On Jul 7, 5:14 pm, 4114 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > How about "Eight years in a POW camp isn't exactly leadership-honing"?
> >
> > I would say surviving eight years in a POW camp and being tortured is
> > pretty character building. You would have curled up and died after
> > eight days. I see why you go by "dead".
> >
> >
> >
> > > And Lieutenant Commander is about the equivalent of Store Manager for
> > > McDonalds.
> >
> > Which is more than Osama Obama could manage. Osama Obama couldn't
> > manage a one car parade, much less the running of the worlds greatest
> > country and super power.
> >
> > Osama Obama is just an empty racists suit with big ears. No disrespect
> > intended to suit hangers or donkeys.
>
> And your to cowardly to criticize your boui, Bush. He's a real
> coward, ran from the Vietnam war, vaulted over 98 other applicants and
> got into the FunTime National Guard.
Not so fun after Bush hijacked it.
Cheney and Rove just got
> deferments, even when they were supposed to sign up for the draft.
> So explain to us, how can you attack Obama and let Bush off with a big
> wet kiss?
Cause of the (D) before his name. And the (R) before Bush's. Google
Tom Alciere, in google groups google web, about killing cops, he said
he would prove that even with all he says, that running under
Republican,
that the Republicans would mindlessly elect him. Even with his well
known, at least to usenet "kill a cop" mentality, they elected him. He
resigned later, seems to me, when we told him to serve the people or
quit. Because he wasn't doing anything effective.
I am fully aware that as an American, that I have to vote for who I
think will best serve the city, state, country and it's people. If
that means Republicans, that's just just perfectly fine.
If these cocksuckers don't vote for anything, just against, they
shouldn't be fucking voting.
Like the slogan, vote for change, I say vote for change. or don't
vote. Hey great bumper sticker that might be.
the_pc_jellybean!!
"cmdr buzz corey" <cmdr-bu...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:f218984a-5d51-4dec...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 8, 10:35 pm, <tHe_PC_JeLLy BeAn!!> wrote:
>> "cmdr buzz corey" <cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:99d974e4-928b-4832...@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Getting three Purple Hearts for minor scratches
>>
>>
>> Now shutup and piss off.
>
> WOW!! Guess you really told me off
LOL!
cmdr buzz corey
> On Jul 8, 10:56 pm,cmdr buzz corey<cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com>
Nice try, but do attempt to keep up.
Osama Obama is simply and empty racists suit with big ears. No
cmdr buzz corey
> On Jul 9, 2:51 pm,cmdr buzz corey<cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com>
Nice try, but do attempt to keep up.
Osama Obama is simply and empty racists suit with big ears. No
cmdr buzz corey
>Heck I
> would gladly join the military today, since they lowered the
> requirements,
Gee, I didn't know they lowered them that low.
>but I don't believe in this stupid Iraq door.
Maybe you should get a different door.
cmdr buzz corey
> Patriot Games wrote:
> > On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:55:58 -0700 (PDT), Kevin Cunningham
> > <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > >On Jul 7, 3:58 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:59:06 -0700 (PDT), Falstaff
> > >> <jaxfalst...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Prove it.
>
> Bush doesn't care about what happens with Iraq, the day he leaves
> office. He's in it for self-gain.
Care to explain this "self-gain"?
the_pc_jellybean!!
the_pc_jellybean!!
the_pc_jellybean!!
Steve
>
>
>Steve wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:00:46 -0700, 4114 Dead
>> <zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:43:23 -0700 (PDT), cmdr buzz corey
>> ><cmdr-bu...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Jul 7, 4:41 pm, 4114 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Lying again, Buzzy. Clark spoke at length, not only of Kerry's
>> >>> indisputable heroism (indisputable except to right wing scum trying to
>> >>> pass themselves off as normal decent people), but his long public
>> >>> service.
>> >>
>> >>Nice try dead, but John Fraud Kerry's non-heroism was exposed over and
>> >>over.
>> >
>> >Try again, little liar. Nobody except right wing whack jobs buys that
>> >one.
>>
>> The voters rejected Kerry because of the fraud that he was.
>
>You people attack ANY Democrat who is in the front, 'the voters' now
>understand Republican trash politics and
>the damage that it does..
<ROTFLMAO> Another lefty who believes he speaks for "the voters."
Steve
>
>
>Steve wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:00:46 -0700, 4114 Dead
>> <zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:43:23 -0700 (PDT), cmdr buzz corey
>> ><cmdr-bu...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Jul 7, 4:41 pm, 4114 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Lying again, Buzzy. Clark spoke at length, not only of Kerry's
>> >>> indisputable heroism (indisputable except to right wing scum trying to
>> >>> pass themselves off as normal decent people), but his long public
>> >>> service.
>> >>
>> >>Nice try dead, but John Fraud Kerry's non-heroism was exposed over and
>> >>over.
>> >
>> >Try again, little liar. Nobody except right wing whack jobs buys that
>> >one.
>>
>> The voters rejected Kerry because of the fraud that he was.
>
>Yea, easy to fucking say, kinda tough to fucking show.
He lost... in an election with a pretty unpopular incumbent...
>But you
>mindless fucks had those simpleton swiftboat
>ads think for you, that didn't even say anything in the first fucking
>place. Heck Orielly reamed one of the swiftboaters with one simple
>fucking question, that other right-wingers were too cowardly to ask in
>the first place.
>
>I've seen plenty of 'credible' Republicans acknowledge Kerrys service
>as do I.
Heck, who cares about your fantasies?
>Kerry 'enlisted' before he graduated from yale. He 'volunteered' in
>Vietnam, aside from his testimony in congress, if he had a (R) in
>front of his name, he would be a hero to you fucks, huh?.
Kerry could only be a Democrat... Leftist coward that he is...
Steve
No,but the fact that they were all band-aid cuts does... and the fact
that he collected them so he could come back to the states and slander
the real soldiers says a lot more.
>He didn't believe in the war.
...and yet he went off and joined up... then used every opportunity
to bail out of it...
> Heck I
>would gladly join the military today, since they lowered the
>requirements, but I don't believe in this stupid Iraq door. I truly
>believed in Deserts Storm and Desert Shield, but not this taxpayer
>money diverting American mutilating monstrosity.
You should probably find a better source of news.. the Soros
sponsored lefty blogs don't tell the truth.
>Think about this, if a Democrat proposed this war, you cowardly one-
>sided fucks would not have supported it.
Perhaps you should also keep your silly fantasies to yourself.
Steve
<zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:04:39 -0700 (PDT), astr...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Steve wrote:
>>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:00:46 -0700, 4114 Dead
>>> <zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:43:23 -0700 (PDT), cmdr buzz corey
>>> ><cmdr-bu...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>On Jul 7, 4:41 pm, 4114 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Lying again, Buzzy. Clark spoke at length, not only of Kerry's
>>> >>> indisputable heroism (indisputable except to right wing scum trying to
>>> >>> pass themselves off as normal decent people), but his long public
>>> >>> service.
>>> >>
>>> >>Nice try dead, but John Fraud Kerry's non-heroism was exposed over and
>>> >>over.
>>> >
>>> >Try again, little liar. Nobody except right wing whack jobs buys that
>>> >one.
>>>
>>> The voters rejected Kerry because of the fraud that he was.
>>
>>You people attack ANY Democrat who is in the front, 'the voters' now
>>understand Republican trash politics and
>>the damage that it does..
>>
>>The fraud has been this entire Bush presidency and it's trash
>>supporters.
>
>They think the same tactics will work this time, and they don't
>realize that the GOP lost whatever moral authority it once had
Let's review Fat-assed Zepp Jamieson's predictions.....
"I'm beginning to wonder if my forecast of 400 electoral votes for
Gore isn't being a bit conservative."
--Zepp Jamieson 2000-08-23
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"Arnie is limping along on name recognition, but it's become
clear that his campaign is an utter fiasco, and his role in
this election is that of being the biggest clown."
--Zepp Jamieson 2003-09-08
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"Looks like I'm no longer the only one predicting an electoral vote
blowout for Kerry."
--Zepp Jamieson Oct 20 2004
"In any event, the worst total I see for Kerry at this time is
288 Electoral votes, a comfortable margin. He could conceivably get
as many as 346."
--Zepp Jamieson 8 Oct 2004
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the_pc_jellybean!!
"cmdr buzz corey" <cmdr-buzz-I'm a racist cunt co...@mailcity.com> wrote in
message
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> > Prov<SMAK!>
Fuck off , you racist cunt.
z
wrote:
> You're right, is is embarrasing that he got those Purple Hearts for
> scratches so minor they were treated with band-aids. A slap in the
> face to other vets who actually received wounds worthy of a Purple
> Heart.
right, you know that it's just john kerry who got erroneously awarded
the purple heart, all the other recipients were properly validated.
how exactly did that happen? fact is, all those purple heart
recipients are suspect in your book, no matter how much you'd like to
differentiate between the ones whose politics you approve of and the
ones you don't.
z
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:56:21 -0700 (PDT), cmdr buzz corey
>
>
>
>
>
> <cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 9, 9:09 am, z <gzuck...@snail-mail.net> wrote:
> >> On Jul 8, 10:43 pm,cmdr buzz corey<cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > Nice try dead, but John Fraud Kerry's non-heroism was exposed over and
> >> > over.
>
> >> catch Bush receiving a medal.
>
> >You're right, is is embarrasing that he got those Purple Hearts for
> >scratches so minor they were treated with band-aids. A slap in the
> >face to other vets who actually received wounds worthy of a Purple
> >Heart.
>
>
> Still clinging to your hateful and outdated lies, Buzzy? They don't
> make you look like a big, brave Republican.
>
> They just make you look like a spiteful moron.- Hide quoted text -
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being a republican these days means being a big whiny bully.
Patriot Games
>Patriot Games wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 05:18:44 -0700 (PDT), "Tom Sr."
>> <tomswif...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Jul 8, 3:00 pm, topse...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> On Jul 7, 3:58 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> >> Wow. I was going to look up some of patriot games posts. Patriot is
>> >> averaging 6,500 posts a month. 6,500!
>> >When I stated this to him, even providing a link to his Google Groups
>> >profile, he claimed he did no such thing.
>> Ask someone who isn't a negro homo to do the math for you. In an
>> 8-hour day that would 27 posts PER HOUR.
>You do have 26,000 racked up according to google groups, they loose
>posts from time to time to top it off.
Does 27 posts PER HOUR seem reasonable or even possible? Or maybe
Google's counting methods are suspect?
Sure, I post a lot of stuff. But 27 posts PER HOUR?
>Nothing I've seen you posts show any patriotism, or 'real' concern for
>this country.
You served in uniform when?
Patriot Games
<sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Jul 9, 4:36 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 06:09:26 -0700 (PDT), John
>> <dahlgren.j...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Jul 8, 1:00 pm, topse...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> On Jul 7, 3:58 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> >> Wow. I was going to look up some of patriot games posts. Patriot is
>> >> He is a paid shill.
>> >Nope, he's a retired Floridian who spews this crap on Usenet because
>> >he knows it gets a rise out of people.
>> Yep.
>> >He does it for kicks.
>> Yep.
>> >I'd say
>> >ignore his stupid and racist posts (97% of his posts) but pay
>> >attention to his political posts where he discusses the race
>> >rationally.
>> Now you done it! They're gonna HATE YOU for that!
>> The Ultra-Left (especially the Anarchist and Homos) have zero
>> tolerance!
>> >Problem is, you have to go through a lot of chaff to get to the wheat.
>> Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!
>Why worry about we dems outed homos? Why not worry about all the
>closeted homos you repugs have. I mean Foley,Gannon, Limbaugh and
>Senator Craig (still serving, thank you repugs in the senate).
Why do Democrats always lie?
Foley and Gannon are not in the closet.
Limbaugh and Craig aren't proven or admitted homos.
>How many more are there?
Nobody knows.
>The ones we already know about made for many a
>laugh.
You mean like Barney!?
Bwahahahahahaha!!
Patriot Games
Nope, he didn't do that.
>They might not make it, that's just a fact.
Yep.
>Bush doesn't care about their mothers, or respect their service in Iraq. That is a
>fact also.
No, its not a fact, its just your wet-panty opinion.
>I hope they make it
Me too.
Patriot Games
<dahlgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jul 9, 2:48 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 17:40:29 -0700 (PDT), astron...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >Patriot Games wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:59:06 -0700 (PDT), Falstaff
>> >> <jaxfalst...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Jul 7, 12:52?pm, cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> On Jul 7, 11:06 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > Philadelphia Inquirer Editor: Obama Disgracing Those Who Suffered or Died
>> >> >> > Wearing Uniform
>> >> > Kerry served during Vietnam
>> >> For 6 months.... He's not running.
>> >> > just like Gore
>> >> For four months... He's not running.
>> >> >Where was Cheney
>> >> Legal deferrments. He's not running.
>> >> >and Bush
>> >> National Guard. He's not running.
>> >> >and Rush
>> >> Legal deferrments. He's not running.
>> >> >and Hannity and O'Reilly
>> >> Don't know. They aren't running.
>> >> >- and you?
>> >> I was there. I'm not running either.
>> >say or infer that they served, but never fucking did.
>> The only one I'm aware of is "Lickin Ass & Fakin Names." She never
>> served yet claims to have made a career of the military! It was my
>> pleasure yesterday to DESTROY that claim......
>> >most of what you right-wingers say, cause you people lie all the
>> >fucking time,
>> Feel free to CITE JUST ONE lie from me.....
>> >most scumbag fashion.
>> Its not anti-Democrat, not exactly. I'm in my late 50s so when you
>> say "Democrat" I'm reminded of the REAL Democrats. The traditional
>> classic Democrats like JFK.
>> Euro-Socialists, Neo-Socialists, Marxists, etc.
>And both despise today's Neo-Con Republicans.
To a slightly (very slightly) lesser degree, but YES they do.
>I actually like dealing
>with real conservatives; at least you know where you stand and you
>know they're not going to get in your business as long as you keep out
>of theirs. My kind of people.
Yep, that's true!
Steve
wrote:
<LOL> "your a bully," whines gzuc...@snail-mail.net
Patriot Games
Google imposes a posting limit so they need multiple accounts to be
able to post as much as they want.
And then I have this annoying HABIT of catching them LYING and
blasting that FACT repeatedly which renders that name I caught lying
useless so they get a new one....
>> >I don't believe
>> >most of what you right-wingers say, cause you people lie all the
>> >fucking time,
>> Feel free to CITE JUST ONE lie from me.....
>Ok, if I cannot come up with something immediately, it's not my place
>to say that. I'll put it on the burner, or forget about it or, look
>through some posts, past or future.
Find some time and go look... You'll find the most absolutely
outrageous collection of Subject Lines, then untouched complete news
articles, then ZERO lies from me.
>> >because your motives are purely anti-Democrat, in the
>> >most scumbag fashion.
>> Its not anti-Democrat, not exactly. I'm in my late 50s so when you
>> say "Democrat" I'm reminded of the REAL Democrats. The traditional
>> classic Democrats like JFK.
>I hear you, but everybody has their political definitions of what is
>what.
Isn't that part of the problem? When the Democrats began moving
toward the ultra-left, the Socialist Left, they called themselves
"liberal" as a contrast to traditional conservatives. When
traditional conservatives successfully turned "liberal" into a nasty
four-letter word the same Democrats started calling themselves
"progressive."
Its not "everybody has their political definitions of what is what"
but rather an intentional effort to hide who they really are and what
their true agenda is.
My personal opinion is that its a disgraceful insult to shit on JFK's
party name.
>> If JFK was alive today he'd have voted for Bush....
>Yea I'm not too familiar with him.
>> Today's Democrats aren't REAL Democrats. They're a weird mixture of
>> Euro-Socialists, Neo-Socialists, Marxists, etc.
>Yea, like I said, everybody defines politics their own way, but I will
>say there are many Democrats that
>are just worthless self-serving ass-munches. They would be better of
>if they and their position wasn't there.
>If a person is worthless in a position, often the position is also. Or
>they are paid waaay too much.
Yep. We're bloated with worthless gov't-payroll jobs...
>> Classic Democrats and classic Republicans BOTH despise today's
>> Socialist Democrats.
>I consider Bush like the scumbag Democrat I was talking about. But the
>Democrat was scumbag well liked and got elected to an extra term, that
>violated the Colorado Constitution. At the very end of his term, he
>said it was finally time to work for the people. He literally got
>elected because he was black. Surely not on his performance.
>Like Hickenlooper, Obama talks of working for the people. I saw him in
>congress, before he was very well known,
>tell ya, if you like politicians who serve the people and not
>themselves, then he is the guy.
In the America, the way America was originally designed, there are
very serious limits to serving the people. Generally when serving
some of the people is a burden on some of the other people you've gone
too far. And generally Americans are suppossed to serve themselves.
Those original American concepts are totally lost on Obama. He was
raised as a Muslim in a non-American country, and his later years were
based almost entirely on being served.
>If you care to, you can google hickenlooper, Denver is where the
>Democrat acceptance and convention will be.
Denver is also where the Negro National Anthem was most recently used
to insult 78% of America........
astr...@yahoo.com
Patriot Games wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:40:55 -0700 (PDT), astr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >Patriot Games wrote:
> >> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 05:18:44 -0700 (PDT), "Tom Sr."
> >> <tomswif...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Jul 8, 3:00 pm, topse...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> On Jul 7, 3:58 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
> >> >> Wow. I was going to look up some of patriot games posts. Patriot is
> >> >> averaging 6,500 posts a month. 6,500!
> >> >When I stated this to him, even providing a link to his Google Groups
> >> >profile, he claimed he did no such thing.
> >> Ask someone who isn't a negro homo to do the math for you. In an
> >> 8-hour day that would 27 posts PER HOUR.
> >You do have 26,000 racked up according to google groups, they loose
> >posts from time to time to top it off.
>
> Does 27 posts PER HOUR seem reasonable or even possible?
Go to or.politics and see eugene the child stalker, his names change
all the time, but it's the same anti-democrat worthless fuck, who
stalks little kids.
If sombody shot him in the head, I would spit on him. He posts, like
duhhhh, 300 post a day, way more than that, less, he boasts as being
patriotic, but has never said anything remotely 'patriotic.'.
Or maybe
> Google's counting methods are suspect?
> Sure, I post a lot of stuff. But 27 posts PER HOUR?
You post all you want, I don't really care, I merely mentioned the
google count.
> >Nothing I've seen you posts show any patriotism, or 'real' concern for
> >this country.
>
> You served in uniform when?
Um, back to the, maybe anti-liberals served, maybe they didn't. But
they are anti-liberal, nothing more.
z
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:06:06 -0700, "Gandalf Grey"
>
> <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Philadelphia Inquirer Editor: Obama Disgracing Those Who Suffered or Died
> >Wearing Uniform
>
>
> His REAL message - "Combat Service Means Exactly Dick".
>
> Which is really odd, since Clark used HIS military rank
> and experience as a "something" which made HIM worthy to
> pontificate in front of the press. So I guess military
> experience is worth dick, UNLESS you're Wes Clark.
>
> May every soldier turn their rump towards him thrice a
> day and fart in his general direction. Fer sure he just
> lost Obama the votes of every ex-soldier and their
> relatives ....
ya know, in the military, rank means something. a general dressing
down a colonel (the equivalent of McCain's navy captain rank) for
overstepping his rank is neither unusual nor automatically
unjustified.
Patriot Games
>Patriot Games wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:40:55 -0700 (PDT), astr...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >Patriot Games wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 05:18:44 -0700 (PDT), "Tom Sr."
>> >> <tomswif...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Jul 8, 3:00 pm, topse...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> On Jul 7, 3:58 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> >> >> Wow. I was going to look up some of patriot games posts. Patriot is
>> >> >> averaging 6,500 posts a month. 6,500!
>> >> >When I stated this to him, even providing a link to his Google Groups
>> >> >profile, he claimed he did no such thing.
>> >> Ask someone who isn't a negro homo to do the math for you. In an
>> >> 8-hour day that would 27 posts PER HOUR.
>> >You do have 26,000 racked up according to google groups, they loose
>> >posts from time to time to top it off.
>> Does 27 posts PER HOUR seem reasonable or even possible?
>Go to or.politics and see eugene the child stalker, his names change
>all the time, but it's the same anti-democrat worthless fuck, who
>stalks little kids.
>If sombody shot him in the head, I would spit on him.
He's a pedophile? Let's team up. I'll shoot the fucker, you spit on
him!
Kevin Cunningham
referring to Cheney) never served in the real military. No one in the
administration ever served in the military.