Hacked climate e-mail rebutted by scientists
Cam
Peter Fimrite, Chronicle Staff Writer
Saturday, December 5, 2009
Arundhati Baden-Mayer Eidinger, 5, joins a rally outside ...
A group of the nation's top scientists defended research on global climate
change Friday against what they called a politically motivated smear
campaign designed to foster public doubt about irrefutable scientific facts.
The allegations came after skeptics seized upon a series of hacked e-mails
at England's University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit as evidence of
a climate change hoax.
The scientists from two major research centers, a national think tank and
NASA, claimed during a telephone news conference that the e-mail exchanges
were taken out of context in an attempt to influence pending greenhouse gas
emissions policies.
It is, they said, a cynical, blatantly dishonest effort to cloud the fact
that the world is now confronting a huge, potentially disastrous climactic
shift.
"There is so much information that tells us the planet has been warming,"
said Gavin Schmidt, a climate modeler at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space
Studies. "No independent study is going to come up with anything other than
what we've already concluded."
Leaders from 190 nations are meeting in Copenhagen next week to discuss the
issue, but no binding agreements are expected to be reached until after U.S.
legislators agree to limit carbon emissions sometime in the spring.
The world's foremost scientists, some 2,500 in all, agree that an increase
in global temperatures since 1900 is responsible for the melting of the
Antarctic ice sheet, acidification of the ocean, sea level rise and habitat
destruction.
Drumbeat of skepticism
Despite this, the drumbeat of skepticism about global warming has never been
louder. The Internet and conservative news programs have been flooded over
the past week with breathless accounts of alleged scientific fraud.
Exhibit A in the controversy are the stolen e-mails, which include messages
between academics in the United States and Britain talking about getting
greenhouse skeptics "ousted" and referring to research "tricks."
Phil Jones, head of the East Anglia research unit, temporarily stepped down
Tuesday after the university began an investigation into the stolen files,
which officials called a "criminal breach."
Republican members of Congress barraged President Obama's science adviser,
John Holdren, with questions and accusations. Rep. James Sensenbrenner,
R-Wis., the ranking Republican on the House Select Committee on Energy
Independence and Global Warming, said "the documents show systematic
suppression of dissenting opinion."
Blogs and television pundits have dubbed the issue "Climategate."
The scientists dismissed the criticisms Friday as intellectually dishonest
distortions by those who seek to discredit global warming for political or
business reasons. When scientists talk about "tricks," pointed out several
academics, they are often using colloquial jargon that means a method of
dealing with a problem.
Michael Mann, the director of the Earth Systems Science Center at
Pennsylvania State University, was among those whose e-mails were circulated
as evidence of attempts to exclude scientists with differing opinions. He
said the passages were cherry-picked phrases from casual conversations about
the quality of peer review at certain publications and how bad science
should be excluded.
"They have engaged in this 11th-hour smear campaign where they have stolen
personal e-mails from scientists, mined them for single words or phrases
that can be taken out of context to twist their words and I think this is
rather telling," Mann said, pointing out that some of the e-mails were more
than a decade old. "Those advocating inaction don't have the science on
their side."
Mountain of evidence
Schmidt and Michael Oppenheimer, the director of the Science, Technology and
Environmental Policy department at Princeton's Woodrow Wilson School, said
the mountain of scientific evidence pointing to human-caused climate change
is all available for scientific review by any skeptic.
They said a colder than normal October in the U.S. - often cited by warming
skeptics - does not make for a trend, no matter how often it is repeated on
blogs and cable television.
"It remains true that Earth has warmed more than 1 degree Fahrenheit over
the last century largely due to the buildup of human-made greenhouse gases,"
Oppenheimer said. "It remains the case that the projections of future
climate change are every bit as discouraging as they were before the recent
flap began."
Joseph Romm, a physicist and senior fellow at the liberal Center for
American Progress, said the evidence of warming is getting clearer while
opponents are "redoubling their disinformation campaign."
"The last ten years are the warmest ten year period in the modern record,"
said Romm, who served in the U.S. Department of Energy in the 1990s. "These
observations are unequivocal. The question is what will happen in our
future, and that is still in our hands."
E-mail Peter Fimrite at pfim...@sfchronicle.com
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/05/MNRL1AV3Q1.DTL
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Escape_the_Cult_Now
GLOBALIST
Anartica melting, sending huge iceburgs up to New Zealand, entire
property fronts 250,000 homes going under water in Australia. Pacific
islanders being displaced refugees, as will be Bangledesh soon,
Greenland melting, Mount Everst melting and ending the water supply in
that area of Africa and the same thing happening in Venezuela..natives
soon with zero water supply. Screw a bunch of emails.
leona...@gmail.com
•• ROTFLMAO
— —
| In real science the burden of proof is always
| on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
| neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
| iota of valid data for global warming nor have
| they provided data that climate change is being
| effected by commerce and industry, and not by
| natural phenomena
GLOBALIST
have to contribute, they never have to offer alternatives, they merely
have to sit in the back on the room and whine. "Real Americans" Sarah
would call you guys.
Jonesie
wrote:
> On Dec 6, 5:47 pm, GLOBALIST <free.tun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > E-mails..she-males....Doesn't matter! Merely look at the videos of
> > Anartica melting, sending huge iceburgs up to New Zealand, entire
> > property fronts 250,000 homes going under water in Australia. Pacific
> > islanders being displaced refugees, as will be Bangledesh soon,
> > Greenland melting, Mount Everst melting and ending the water supply in
> > that area of Africa and the same thing happening in Venezuela..natives
> > soon with zero water supply. Screw a bunch of emails.
>
> •• ROTFLMAO
Another science and evidence free post by leonard the lonely old net
kook.
Nice try pulver, you lose again.
There are three types of people that you can not talk into behaving
well. The
stupid, the religious fanatic, and the evil.
1-The stupid aren't smart enough to follow the logic of what you say.
You
have to tell them what is right in very simple terms. If they don't
agree, then
you'll never be able to change their mind.
2- the right wing fanatic
If what you say goes against their
religious belief, they will cling to that religious belief even if it
means their
death."
3- There is no way to reform Conservative evil- Not in a million
years
There is no way to convince the right wing terrorists, vile,
antiscience,
superstitious anthropogenic global warming deniers, serial killers,
paedophiles, and predators
to change their evil ways. They knew what they were doing was wrong,
but that
knowledge didn't stop them. It only made them more careful in how they
went about
performing their evil acts.
-----
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
Hmmm.
You're pretty much nuts, aren't you?
Viejo Vizcacha
This is the situation with the global warming deniers: they are truly
convinced that just by saying "No, this does not prove anything", then
they have destroyed all evidence.
VV
None4U
"GLOBALIST" <free....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:460cf4b2-367a-4f78...@1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
Yea, nothings really happening. The ice is melting, Good, it sucks. I
freeze 5 months out of the year. my gas bill will go down. Let all the
natives move or die.
None4U
Thats because you half assed backwards tax and spend assholes cant balance a
budget or wipe a debt clean. its you who wont contribute and pay your
fucking debts back to ZERO
Until then i hope you all melt.
*us*
Thanks for posting that.
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
Move to Florida. It's already got lots of assholes, you'll feel right at
home.
GreyCloud
That's what happens when the dependency chain is broken... they go
ballistic.
--
Common sense is the collection of prejudices
aquired by age eighteen. - Albert Einstein
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
> "GLOBALIST" <free....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:79b45cea-d642-4fa4-
a492-49a...@o33g2000vbu.googlegroups.com...
>> Party of No folks only have to say NO NO NO to everything..they never
>> have to contribute, they never have to offer alternatives, they merely
>> have to sit in the back on the room and whine. "Real Americans" Sarah
>> would call you guys.
>>
>>
>
>
> Thats because you half assed backwards tax and spend assholes cant
> balance a budget or wipe a debt clean. its you who wont contribute and
> pay your fucking debts back to ZERO
> Until then i hope you all melt.
Interesting how Republicans, the party responsible for 80% of the
national debt, always start whining about it when a Democrat is in the
White House.
Maybe you would be taken seriously, bubbles, if everyone was as stupid as
you and like you, couldn't remember back three years when Dick Cheney was
saying "Deficits don't matter."
Eddie Haskell
"Cam" <adrast...@live.com> wrote in message
news:4b1c2ecc$1...@news.x-privat.org...
> Hacked climate e-mail rebutted by scientists
>
> Peter Fimrite, Chronicle Staff Writer
>
> Saturday, December 5, 2009
> Arundhati Baden-Mayer Eidinger, 5, joins a rally outside ...
>
> A group of the nation's top scientists defended research on global climate
> change Friday against what they called a politically motivated smear
> campaign designed to foster public doubt about irrefutable scientific
> facts.
Yawn. The jig is up. Now STFU about it.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
<* US *> wrote in message news:sjtoh59uglvgdo5od...@4ax.com...
Ditto. I'm gonna print it out and go wipe my ass with it.
-Eddie Haskell
*us*
>... wipe my ass with it.
You shouldn't do that with your keyboard.
You hold false beliefs because you're weakminded.
Perhaps you ate a lot of lead paint in your infancy.
Eddie Haskell
<* US *> wrote in message news:lneqh51o79d659gld...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:39:14 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com>
> wrote:
>
>>... wipe my ass with it.
>
> You shouldn't do that with your keyboard.
>
> You hold false beliefs because you're weakminded.
>
> Perhaps you ate a lot of lead paint in your infancy.
Oh, good, something else I can print out to wipe my ass with.
-Eddie Haskell
*us*
environment is based on mountains of data accumulated from thousands of scientists over
the course of decades. The molehill recently manufactured by a few climate deniers does
not change that"
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/12/epa_carbon_find.html
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:37:37 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>... wipe my ass...
You never even learned to do that much properly, if
you have to go out in public and beg for help with it.
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:39:14 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>... wipe my ass with it.
You shouldn't do that with your keyboard.
You hold false beliefs because you're weakminded.
Perhaps you ate a lot of lead paint in your infancy.
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:22:48 -0500, "Cam" <adrast...@live.com> wrote:
Eddie Haskell
<* US *> wrote in message news:4ijqh59cbmslmmu30...@4ax.com...
> ""The finding that global warming pollution poses a threat to human health
> and our
> environment is based on mountains of data accumulated from thousands of
> scientists over
> the course of decades. The molehill recently manufactured by a few climate
> deniers does
> not change that"
>
> http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/12/epa_carbon_find.html
Poor dear. His GW ruse is going up in smoke.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:37:37 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com>
> wrote:
>
>>... wipe my ass...
>
> You never even learned to do that much properly, if
> you have to go out in public and beg for help with it.
Here, lets shake on it.
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:39:14 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com>
> wrote:
>
>>... wipe my ass with it.
>
> You shouldn't do that with your keyboard.
>
> You hold false beliefs because you're weakminded.
Projection.
Oh, and "weakminded" isn't a word.
Oh, the irony..
Hahahahaha!
Ah, just in time. I needed to go take a shit..
[Print]
-Eddie Haskell
*us*
>...ruse is going up in smoke.
If you weren't so stupid/ignorant, you'd avoid
falling for such a ruse as your climate denial.
Or do you do that because you're loyal to the
Russians, not the Americans?
"�The finding that global warming pollution poses a threat to human health and our
environment is based on mountains of data accumulated from thousands of scientists over
the course of decades. The molehill recently manufactured by a few climate deniers does
not change that"
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/12/epa_carbon_find.html
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:37:37 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>... wipe my ass...
You never even learned to do that much properly, if
you have to go out in public and beg for help with it.
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:39:14 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>... wipe my ass with it.
You shouldn't do that with your keyboard.
You hold false beliefs because you're weakminded.
Perhaps you ate a lot of lead paint in your infancy.
Eddie Haskell
<* US *> wrote in message news:hrlqh5td08pcdalns...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:12:42 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com>
> wrote:
>
>>...ruse is going up in smoke.
>
> If you weren't so stupid/ignorant, you'd avoid
> falling for such a ruse as your climate denial.
>
> Or do you do that because you're loyal to the
> Russians, not the Americans?
>
> ""The finding that global warming pollution poses a threat to human health
> and our
> environment is based on mountains of data accumulated from thousands of
> scientists over
> the course of decades. The molehill recently manufactured by a few climate
> deniers does
> not change that"
>
> http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/12/epa_carbon_find.html
Boy, costs a lot of money to pay all those scientists to fabricate the GW
scam, and now look what those discovered emails have done.
Oh, well, back to the drawing board. Maybe you could fall back on your
previous failed attempt.
"As they review the bizarre and unpredictable weather pattern of the past
several years, a growing number of scientists are beginning to suspect that
many seemingly contradictory meteorological fluctuations are actually part
of a global climatic upheaval."
"Global climatic upheaval"? Gracious..
"However widely the weather varies from place to place and time to time,
when meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they
find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past
three decades."
Oh, my. Better get me a new coat.
"The trend shows no indication of reversing.
Oh, shit. "No indication of reversing."
"Climatological Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, for the
weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice
age."
Oh-mah-god! We're all gonna die!
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html#ixzz0Z2mAFlUq
-Eddie Haskell
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
>Yea, I'll bet they're covering their rebutts as
>fast as they can. The truth is out ... the people
>are being PLAYED, the 'crisis' is more an 'annoyance'.
Squeak louder, corporate whore! Your bonus is riding on preserving
Exxon/Mobil's profits!
*us*
>...costs a lot of money ...
Are you done paying for the Valdez mishap,
or the illegal invasions, yet, moonie bushfilth?
>... now look what those discovered emails have done.
Remarkably, they've made you look even more
stupid and malicious, moonie bushfilth.
>Oh-mah-god! We're all gonna die!
Well, you are, but your betters care about those
who will live on after them, even if you can't.
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:12:42 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>...ruse is going up in smoke.
If you weren't so stupid/ignorant, you'd avoid
falling for such a ruse as your climate denial.
Or do you do that because you're loyal to the
Russians, not the Americans?
"�The finding that global warming pollution poses a threat to human health and our
environment is based on mountains of data accumulated from thousands of scientists over
the course of decades. The molehill recently manufactured by a few climate deniers does
not change that"
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/12/epa_carbon_find.html
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:37:37 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
Eddie Haskell
<* US *> wrote in message news:kmosh59rnvsul3508...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:18:22 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com>
> wrote:
>
>>...costs a lot of money ...
>
> Are you done paying for the Valdez mishap,
My my the desperation. Now he's bringing up Valdez. You don't use oil, do
you? Boy, that nasty oil. Did you know that ANWR is full of it? We'd better
get in there and pump it out and clean up the place. Then we'd better burn
up the shit before the ice age that scientists said was coming gets us.
It's impending doom, dontcha know?
"As they review the bizarre and unpredictable weather pattern of the past
several years, a growing number of scientists are beginning to suspect that
many seemingly contradictory meteorological fluctuations are actually part
of a global climatic upheaval."
"Global climatic upheaval"? Gracious..
"However widely the weather varies from place to place and time to time,
when meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they
find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past
three decades."
Oh, my. Better get me a new coat.
"The trend shows no indication of reversing.
Oh, shit. "No indication of reversing."
"Climatological Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, for the
weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice
age."
Oh-mah-god! We're all gonna die!
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html#ixzz0Z2mAFlUq
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
"5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09" <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message
news:231rh5100217ssk2v...@4ax.com...
Boy, you kooks are demented. You hate corporations so bad you cling to ruses
to shut them down. Then you bitch when they move overseas. Fucking deranged.
-Eddie Haskell
*us*
>... desperation...
If you weren't desperate, you'd be able to do better.
>...we'd better burn
>up the shit ...
It'd be better than you dumping it on your keyboard.
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:18:22 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>...costs a lot of money ...
Are you done paying for the Valdez mishap,
or the illegal invasions, yet, moonie bushfilth?
>... now look what those discovered emails have done.
Remarkably, they've made you look even more
stupid and malicious, moonie bushfilth.
>Oh-mah-god! We're all gonna die!
Well, you are, but your betters care about those
Eddie Haskell
<* US *> wrote in message news:okauh5tpc8tf1352q...@4ax.com...
We're cutting of your electricity and now you will freeze to death tonight,
but fear not, it's all for the best. All that coal we we're burning to keep
you warm was hazardous to your health.
It's all for the best.
-Eddie Haskell
*us*
>We're cutting of [sic] ...
You cut off your 'education' far too soon.
You're too ignorant to know how clueless you are.
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:57:11 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>... desperation...
If you weren't desperate, you'd be able to do better.
>...we'd better burn
>up the shit ...
It'd be better than you dumping it on your keyboard.
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:18:22 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>...costs a lot of money ...
Are you done paying for the Valdez mishap,
or the illegal invasions, yet, moonie bushfilth?
>... now look what those discovered emails have done.
Remarkably, they've made you look even more
stupid and malicious, moonie bushfilth.
>Oh-mah-god! We're all gonna die!
Well, you are, but your betters care about those
who will live on after them, even if you can't.
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:12:42 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>...ruse is going up in smoke.
If you weren't so stupid/ignorant, you'd avoid
falling for such a ruse as your climate denial.
Or do you do that because you're loyal to the
Russians, not the Americans?
"�The finding that global warming pollution poses a threat to human health and our
Eddie Haskell
<* US *> wrote in message news:aj11i59em3khqlda4...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:53:34 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com>
> wrote:
>
>>We're cutting of [sic] ...
>
> You cut off your 'education' far too soon.
>
> You're too ignorant to know how clueless you are.
We're going to produce electricity by putting all you libs on treadmills and
dangle government cheese in front of you.
-Eddie Haskell
klunk
"None4U" <nos...@nospam.none> wrote in message
news:1dKdnZhc_Zpl74HW...@centurytel.net...
and yet, it's conservative assholes like you who piss away our money to your
bum-buddies until the rest of the world burns while you lie your asses off
about who's responsible for the messes you make...
*us*
review by experts as well as governments," IPCC Chairman R.K. Pachauri said in a
statement. He added that no individual or small group could exclude a peer-reviewed paper
from assessment or stress a finding that isn't consistent with many other investigations."
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/1376362-p2.html
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:18:36 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>... government cheese ...
You're still so malnourished as to have diminished
neural function, though.
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:53:34 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>We're cutting of [sic] ...
You cut off your 'education' far too soon.
You're too ignorant to know how clueless you are.
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:57:11 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
Eddie Haskell
<* US *> wrote in message news:9g07i5p5rfh1kbq8a...@4ax.com...
Sleep tight, and don't let the Sarah Plain's bite.
Hahahahaha!
No, wait! She's under your bed!
No, she's in your closet!
Bwahahahahaha!
-Eddie haskell
*us*
>... Sarah Plain's [sic] bite.
So you're admitting, she's a dog?
*us*
even if he weren't too stupid. All he'd need is
one little fact, but he doesn't have that and
can't get it. So he steals and lies, instead.
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:31:41 -0600, "Idiot Basketcase" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>...Sarah Plain's [sic] bite...
Your freudian slip is showing, there, Sarah plain and dull ...