Canada store owner defeats anti-Israel boycotters

[MattB]

Canada store owner defeats anti-Israel boycotters

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4194633,00.html

The story of Shani Bar-Oz, a Canada-based Israeli facing venomous
protests outside her Vancouver soap products store, elicited a huge
wave of support and generated new business, the shop owner old Ynet.

"I received a huge embrace and plenty of support," Bar-Oz said, after
an article about her plight appeared on Ynet. In the story, the store
owner, who insists on selling Israeli products, shared her fears of
contending with anti-Israel protesters targeting her business and
shouting anti-Semitic slogans.

***********

This is good news.

[2884 Dead]

No possibility it's unbiased, too!

You must be very proud.





--
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution
inevitable” -JFK





--
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution
inevitable” -JFK

[2884 Dead]

On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:56:03 -0800, MattB wrote:

[Phlip]

> No possibility it's unbiased, too!

Pick one:

I only sell products in my store made by...

__ people the same religion as me
__ scientologists
__ zionists
__ white people
__ Chinese children

[MattB]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:33:09 -0800 (PST), Phlip <phli...@gmail.com>
wrote:

What if you sell products from all over the world. The terrorist
lovers just want her to not sell from Israel. So glad the
Palestinians are starting to lose in their intimidation methods.

[MattB]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:06:50 +0000 (UTC), 2884 Dead <de...@gone.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:56:03 -0800, MattB wrote:
>
>> Canada store owner defeats anti-Israel boycotters
>>
>> http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4194633,00.html
>>
>> The story of Shani Bar-Oz, a Canada-based Israeli facing venomous
>> protests outside her Vancouver soap products store, elicited a huge wave
>> of support and generated new business, the shop owner old Ynet.
>>
>> "I received a huge embrace and plenty of support," Bar-Oz said, after an
>> article about her plight appeared on Ynet. In the story, the store
>> owner, who insists on selling Israeli products, shared her fears of
>> contending with anti-Israel protesters targeting her business and
>> shouting anti-Semitic slogans.
>>
>> ***********
>>
>> This is good news.
>
>No possibility it's unbiased, too!
>
>You must be very proud.

I am proud the terrorist did not win this time. If she wants to
sell goods made from all over the world including Israel it is not
some Palestinian's business. The protest actually backfired. I love
that.

It is good people see the Palestinians for what they are all
Terrorist. That is what you want people to believe about all
Israeli's correct?.

[2884 Dead]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:08:45 -0800, MattB wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:06:50 +0000 (UTC), 2884 Dead <de...@gone.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:56:03 -0800, MattB wrote:
>>
>>> Canada store owner defeats anti-Israel boycotters
>>>
>>> http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4194633,00.html
>>>
>>> The story of Shani Bar-Oz, a Canada-based Israeli facing venomous
>>> protests outside her Vancouver soap products store, elicited a huge
>>> wave of support and generated new business, the shop owner old Ynet.
>>>
>>> "I received a huge embrace and plenty of support," Bar-Oz said, after
>>> an article about her plight appeared on Ynet. In the story, the store
>>> owner, who insists on selling Israeli products, shared her fears of
>>> contending with anti-Israel protesters targeting her business and
>>> shouting anti-Semitic slogans.
>>>
>>> ***********
>>>
>>> This is good news.
>>
>>No possibility it's unbiased, too!
>>
>>You must be very proud.
>
> I am proud the terrorist did not win this time. If she wants to
> sell goods made from all over the world including Israel it is not some
> Palestinian's business. The protest actually backfired. I love that.

People protesting peacefully are terrorists in your Zionist little world?

>
> It is good people see the Palestinians for what they are all Terrorist.
> That is what you want people to believe about all Israeli's correct?.
>>

Better get the death camps going. In self defense against terrorists, of
course.

[MattB]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 20:47:35 +0000 (UTC), 2884 Dead <de...@gone.com>

wrote:

>On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:08:45 -0800, MattB wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:06:50 +0000 (UTC), 2884 Dead <de...@gone.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:56:03 -0800, MattB wrote:
>>>
>>>> Canada store owner defeats anti-Israel boycotters
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4194633,00.html
>>>>
>>>> The story of Shani Bar-Oz, a Canada-based Israeli facing venomous
>>>> protests outside her Vancouver soap products store, elicited a huge
>>>> wave of support and generated new business, the shop owner old Ynet.
>>>>
>>>> "I received a huge embrace and plenty of support," Bar-Oz said, after
>>>> an article about her plight appeared on Ynet. In the story, the store
>>>> owner, who insists on selling Israeli products, shared her fears of
>>>> contending with anti-Israel protesters targeting her business and
>>>> shouting anti-Semitic slogans.
>>>>
>>>> ***********
>>>>
>>>> This is good news.
>>>
>>>No possibility it's unbiased, too!
>>>
>>>You must be very proud.
>>
>> I am proud the terrorist did not win this time. If she wants to
>> sell goods made from all over the world including Israel it is not some
>> Palestinian's business. The protest actually backfired. I love that.
>
>People protesting peacefully are terrorists in your Zionist little world?

No they represent terrorist . You terrorist lovers just don't
see it.

>>
>> It is good people see the Palestinians for what they are all Terrorist.
>> That is what you want people to believe about all Israeli's correct?.
>>>
>Better get the death camps going. In self defense against terrorists, of
>course.

What because some jews are zionist all are to you. Well to me
because some Palestinians are terrorist all are. Same logic.

I was and am happy the protesters actually helped with her
business. They did not intimidate the to stop selling Israeli goods.

Maybe we should start protesting all things Muslim in Canada
and the USA. Protest in the same way these people did.

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>?Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution
>>>inevitable? -JFK

[2884 Dead]

People electing not to buy at a store are terrorists.

You've really gone right off the deep end.

[MattB]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:20:05 +0000 (UTC), 2884 Dead <de...@gone.com>

No I do the same. Those that represent terrorist and stand
outside the store intimidating people are. If I choose the sell these
things I can. Maybe we should all demonstrate at all Palestinians
businesses in the USA. I mean they are as much Terrorist as are all
Jews Zionist. Then again terrorist lovers don't see that.

>
>You've really gone right off the deep end.

No if I tried to walk in that store and she got in my face shed be
on her ass real quick as would you of any terrorist lover,

Yes we should protest all Palestinian businesses in the USA and
Canada. Lets see there are a few in Seattle to start. PAste signs
saying to do business with them supports terrorist. Just as true as
what this Palestinian women was saying about that store.

Wonder if they have a web site I'll have to give them business as my
form of protest against terrorism.

[Steve]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:20:05 +0000 (UTC), 2884 Dead <de...@gone.com>

No, but people trying to prevent others from buying there can be...

[Steve]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:33:09 -0800 (PST), Phlip <phli...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I know a store where they only sell products made by UAW workers...
I'd never go there....

[MattB]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:14:11 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <6b9lk71ism8l1riat...@4ax.com>,

> MattB <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >People electing not to buy at a store are terrorists.
>>
>> No I do the same. Those that represent terrorist and stand
>> outside the store intimidating people are. If I choose the sell these
>

>So you're too weaked will to ignore people you disagree with you. You excuse
>your weakness by projecting your fear on them and call them terrorism.

I have no fear of that whore of a palestinian in charge of the
protest. She is free to protest as long as she stays out of my face.
I'm just glad the protest backfired.

>
>> things I can. Maybe we should all demonstrate at all Palestinians
>> businesses in the USA. I mean they are as much Terrorist as are all
>

>The only people stopping you are wingnuts like you that equate all protest to
>terrorism.

Not all just Palestinian.

>
>> Jews Zionist. Then again terrorist lovers don't see that.
>

>So boycott Jews Zionists along with Palestinians. Oh, wait, protesting Jewish
>terrorism means you're supporting Palestinian terrorism, even though protesting
>Palestinian terrorism does not mean you're supporting Zionist terrorism. Wait.
>Crap. Hypocrisy gives me such a headache: it must be easier to be an idiot
>wingnut so you are untroubled by any intelligent thought.

See here you go again Lying. I have said over and over those
Ultra-orthidox freaks in the west bank are almost as bad. They
haven't bombed a club full of teens yet, like Hamas did. They use
terror as well just at a different level.

>
>> >You've really gone right off the deep end.
>>
>> No if I tried to walk in that store and she got in my face shed be
>> on her ass real quick as would you of any terrorist lover,
>

>That would make you guilty of assault and battery. And you announce you will
>commit a felony in order to intimidate others. You are using terror to control
>others. You are a terrorist.

No she does not have the right to prevent me from going into the
store. "she got in my face" She can protest all she wants. She
actually made people buy more Israeli goods anyway.
>
>A law abiding person respects other people's rights to free speech and peaceable
>assembly. A law abiding person would call the police if they suspected a law was
>being violated and let the police deal with it.

LOL Someone tries to block my way I can deal with it.
>
>It's vigilantes, terrorists, and lynch mobs that take the law into their own
>hands.

>
>> Yes we should protest all Palestinian businesses in the USA and
>

>I'm not stopping you.

No it would be more fun to see if they send a dime to Hamas
and take their business. Hamas is a terrorist organization and to be
honest know a few in Florida and they did not support Hamas or the PA.
Thought both were corrupt. Good people.

>
>> Canada. Lets see there are a few in Seattle to start. PAste signs
>> saying to do business with them supports terrorist. Just as true as
>> what this Palestinian women was saying about that store.
>

>I'm not stopping you unless deface other people's property.

Why would I do that. That would make me as bad as that
Palestinian pig in Canada.

>
>> Wonder if they have a web site I'll have to give them business as my
>> form of protest against terrorism.
>

>http://www.nusacc.org/
>
>Have at it.


No the store.

[MattB]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 18:55:42 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <ke7lk7hn0eg1ogaaf...@4ax.com>,

> MattB <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> No they represent terrorist . You terrorist lovers just don't
>> see it.
>

>Thanks for demonstrating a wingnut's definition of terrorism.

This from the Leftist nutcase that approves of killing kids in
Allah's name. Wait something happened before these kids were born
that makes it OK, that is the leftist way.

>
>> What because some jews are zionist all are to you. Well to me
>> because some Palestinians are terrorist all are. Same logic.
>

>Does this mean you want Israel to shell illegal West Bank settlements at the
>same time they shell Gaza?

If the settlers are as stupid as the Palestinians and fire
missiles out of those settlements, I can guarantee you Israel would
take action. Real quick too.

What do you think is going to happen when the idiots inside Gaza
fire missiles into Israel. Everyone else knows Israel is going to
fire back. Personally I would just cut off power, water and food 1
day for every missile. Let Egypt take up the slack.

>
>> I was and am happy the protesters actually helped with her
>> business. They did not intimidate the to stop selling Israeli goods.
>>
>> Maybe we should start protesting all things Muslim in Canada
>> and the USA. Protest in the same way these people did.
>

>You already do, idiot. I don't see anyone calling you a terrorist for siding
>with MEK, even though by your own definition of terrorism above, you are a
>terrorist.

MEK? I side with Ketone?

What if someone blocks my way I don't bow before them. I'd do the
same if Fred Phelps and his nutcases blocked my way. I'd do the same
if you did. You do have the right to protest but you do not have the
right to block entry or scream into a persons face.

Now I know I have upset you and Allah, but please don't be a nutcase
and take it out on others like they are doing in Afghanistan. Then
again they know Obama will just send money to fix what they destroy.

[MattB]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 18:46:33 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <gu3lk755l38va19mh...@4ax.com>,

> MattB <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am proud the terrorist did not win this time. If she wants to
>

>A boycott is now an act of terrorism?

Boycott all you want. I'm just glad it failed. Hamas and it's
followers are terrorist.

BTW are you Richard Steels wife/husband? You did a cut and paste.

"" I am proud the terrorist did not win this time. If she wants to
sell goods made from all over the world including Israel it is not
some Palestinian's business. The protest actually backfired. I love
that.""

GLAD IT BACKFIRED. Hope she has many many years of expanding
business in Canada.

[Phlip]

>   Now I know I have upset you and Allah, but please don't be a nutcase
> and take it out on others like they are doing in Afghanistan.  Then
> again they know Obama will just send money to fix what they destroy.

Buy African products. Problem solved.

[lsrlts]

On 2/26/2012 10:09 PM, China Blue Sea wrote:
> governments already track financing of PA and Hamas.

And what a stellar job that has done in crippling their operations, eh?

[MattB]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:09:39 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <qjvlk7t9d2612nc0r...@4ax.com>,

> MattB <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have no fear of that whore of a palestinian in charge of the
>> protest. She is free to protest as long as she stays out of my face.
>

>She doesn't have to stay out of your face as long as her actions are lawful. And
>it's not up to you to decide if they aren't: that's why civilised people have
>courts.

Well if my face means close enough to feel spit and see her rotten
teeth. No she doesn't have that right.

>
>> >The only people stopping you are wingnuts like you that equate all protest
>> >to
>> >terrorism.
>>
>> Not all just Palestinian.
>

>Thanks for admitting to your bigotry. I'm sure the Sioux Nation appreciates your
>apathy for the theft of their Black Hills.

Well the Sioux Nation owned it first. Israel owned their land
first. Were no Muslims then.

>
>> See here you go again Lying. I have said over and over those
>> Ultra-orthidox freaks in the west bank are almost as bad. They
>

>Almost as bad? Gee, that's magnaminous of you.

They have not gone into a room full of kids and blown them up yet.
If so please post it?

It is only in manner of degree. Tell me how can you support all
the terrorist acts we see weekly in the world most if not all done by
Muslims. Tell me what did those kids murdered on 9/11 ever do to any
Muslims? How can you keep justifying this type of thing.

>
>> haven't bombed a club full of teens yet, like Hamas did. They use
>> terror as well just at a different level.
>

>They just murder innocent people in mosques and Israeli prime ministers. But you
>don't have problem with that.

Israelis current prime minister is a ass. I have no proof but he
is in bed with the Ultra-orthidox "Haredi " nutcases. They like the
Islamist now think everyone should live by their rules. Someday one
of those woman they harass will be X service and take them down and
shave them.

>
>> No she does not have the right to prevent me from going into the
>> store. "she got in my face" She can protest all she wants. She
>> actually made people buy more Israeli goods anyway.
>

>Both Canada and the US have due process which means residents and citizens agree
>to let courts decide whether others have violated the laws. You whine about
>terrorism and boast you want to be a criminal.

Then when I did not stop and she landed on her ass. She could
call the court. She doesn't even in the liberal mindset have the
right to block traffic or the freedom of movement. Even id she is a
pig.

>
>> LOL Someone tries to block my way I can deal with it.
>

>Only if you want to break the law. Though that is consistent with your selective
>outrage about some terrorism and not others.

Then I'd take the law into my own hands. Muslims are not going to
block people from going to stores they don't agree with. Sorry not
going to happen. You seem to forget if she is blocking my way it is
she who broke the law. If she moves to do so again then well.......

>
>> No it would be more fun to see if they send a dime to Hamas
>

>In other words you're too lazy to do anything. And too stupid to know

>governments already track financing of PA and Hamas.

Lazy to do what it is over. Didn't you even read the article?
I'm just glad it backfired. The store business has actually gone up.
This is great news.

>
>> >> Canada. Lets see there are a few in Seattle to start. PAste signs
>> >> saying to do business with them supports terrorist. Just as true as
>> >> what this Palestinian women was saying about that store.
>> >
>> >I'm not stopping you unless deface other people's property.
>>
>> Why would I do that. That would make me as bad as that
>> Palestinian pig in Canada.
>

>If you paste signs on public property or other people's property without
>permission, you are defacing it.

OK Where did this come from. I never said I would do that.

>
>> >> Wonder if they have a web site I'll have to give them business as my
>> >> form of protest against terrorism.
>> >
>> >http://www.nusacc.org/
>> >
>> >Have at it.
>>
>>
>> No the store.
>

>Whiner.

Your just mad that the store is doing so good. That the protest
backfired and the people of Canada saw it for what it was. Canada is
a good place and many different groups live there. Most came to get
away from the problems in thier home countries.

Most the Muslims I know in the States aren't to happy with the
terrorist either. There are good Muslims just not any good radicals.

[MattB]

I'm wondering how Obama will justify not cutting all aid to the PA
if Hamas becomes part of the government.

[MattB]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 20:19:56 -0800 (PST), Phlip <phli...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I prefer American when you can find anything still made here. The
best soap products I even had were made by a small Wiccan community in
Florida. They made great Tea also.

[MattB.]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:18:50 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <8e7mk7dm911npi27m...@4ax.com>,

> MattB <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >> I have no fear of that whore of a palestinian in charge of the
>> >> protest. She is free to protest as long as she stays out of my face.
>> >
>> >She doesn't have to stay out of your face as long as her actions are lawful.
>> >And
>> >it's not up to you to decide if they aren't: that's why civilised people
>> >have
>> >courts.
>>
>> Well if my face means close enough to feel spit and see her rotten
>> teeth. No she doesn't have that right.
>

>Actually she does. Different cultures have different norms on interpersonal
>distance. If you don't like it, step back. If you think she broke a law, call
>the police. They want you to call them instead of committing your own crimes.

>
>> Well the Sioux Nation owned it first. Israel owned their land
>> first. Were no Muslims then.
>

>If the Bible says you're liar. Exodus, Joshua, and other books talk about Israel
>taking the land away from previous inhabitants. Some of the inhabitants stuck
>around and became part of the Palestinians.

>
>> >> See here you go again Lying. I have said over and over those
>> >> Ultra-orthidox freaks in the west bank are almost as bad. They
>> >
>> >Almost as bad? Gee, that's magnaminous of you.
>>
>> They have not gone into a room full of kids and blown them up yet.
>> If so please post it?
>

>'There is an old saying: kill one man, you're a murderer. Kill a million, a
>king. Kill them all, a god.'
>
>So you don't care about dropping bombs on apartment buildings and killing
>children that way. That fits what with you being a bigot and all.

>
>> >> haven't bombed a club full of teens yet, like Hamas did. They use
>> >> terror as well just at a different level.
>> >
>
>> >They just murder innocent people in mosques and Israeli prime ministers. But
>> >you
>> >don't have problem with that.
>>
>> Israelis current prime minister is a ass. I have no proof but he
>

>So you have no response to the facts. Quelle surprise.

>
>> >> No she does not have the right to prevent me from going into the
>> >> store. "she got in my face" She can protest all she wants. She
>> >> actually made people buy more Israeli goods anyway.
>> >
>> >Both Canada and the US have due process which means residents and citizens
>> >agree
>> >to let courts decide whether others have violated the laws. You whine about
>> >terrorism and boast you want to be a criminal.
>>
>> Then when I did not stop and she landed on her ass. She could
>

>You confusing your fantasies with reality.

>
>> >> LOL Someone tries to block my way I can deal with it.
>> >
>> >Only if you want to break the law. Though that is consistent with your
>> >selective
>> >outrage about some terrorism and not others.
>>
>> Then I'd take the law into my own hands. Muslims are not going to
>

>And that makes you brave and righteous? But when Moslems do so, it's a crime
>against humanity? You are a bigot.

>
>> block people from going to stores they don't agree with. Sorry not
>> going to happen. You seem to forget if she is blocking my way it is
>> she who broke the law. If she moves to do so again then well.......
>

>It's not your decision if she broke a law. You don't seem to get that point: if
>you want others to obey the laws, you should obey them to.

>
>> >> No it would be more fun to see if they send a dime to Hamas
>> >
>> >In other words you're too lazy to do anything. And too stupid to know
>> >governments already track financing of PA and Hamas.
>>
>> Lazy to do what it is over. Didn't you even read the article?
>

>Run away! Run away!

>
>> >> >> Canada. Lets see there are a few in Seattle to start. PAste signs
>> >> >> saying to do business with them supports terrorist. Just as true as
>> >> >> what this Palestinian women was saying about that store.
>

>> OK Where did this come from. I never said I would do that.
>

>You want others to paste signs. You didn't specify whether you wanted them to
>deface property to do so.

>
>> Your just mad that the store is doing so good. That the protest
>

>What makes you think I give a shit about some store in another country?

>
>> Most the Muslims I know in the States aren't to happy with the
>> terrorist either. There are good Muslims just not any good radicals.
>

>Are your house moslems a paler shade than the field moslems?


LOL All you are showing is your a terrorist lover and
supporter. Muslims are required to support your terrorist buddies.
I hope your on the no fly list.

So you call muslims that don't support murder " paler " Your
showing what you are. No wonder you use a false ID.

CC

[trainguard]

On Feb 26, 9:17 pm, MattB <trdell1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 20:47:35 +0000 (UTC), 2884 Dead <d...@gone.com>

> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:08:45 -0800, MattB wrote:
>

> >> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:06:50 +0000 (UTC), 2884 Dead <d...@gone.com>

> >> wrote:
>
> >>>On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:56:03 -0800, MattB wrote:
>
> >>>> Canada store owner defeats anti-Israel boycotters
>
> >>>>http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4194633,00.html
>
> >>>> The story of Shani Bar-Oz, a Canada-based Israeli facing venomous
> >>>> protests outside her Vancouver soap products store, elicited a huge
> >>>> wave of support and generated new business, the shop owner old Ynet.
>
> >>>> "I received a huge embrace and plenty of support," Bar-Oz said, after
> >>>> an article about her plight appeared on Ynet. In the story, the store
> >>>> owner, who insists on selling Israeli products, shared her fears of
> >>>> contending with anti-Israel protesters targeting her business and
> >>>> shouting anti-Semitic slogans.
>
> >>>> ***********
>
> >>>>   This is good news.
>
> >>>No possibility it's unbiased, too!
>
> >>>You must be very proud.
>
> >>     I am proud the terrorist did not win this time.  If she wants to
> >> sell goods made from all over the world including Israel it is not some
> >> Palestinian's business.  The protest actually backfired.  I love that.
>
> >People protesting peacefully are terrorists in your Zionist little world?
>
>       No they represent terrorist .    You terrorist lovers just don't
> see it.

When I was researching the French Resistance and the British Special
Operations Exective, I became aware of many references and citations
to a book called 'Nous Les Terroristes'. You see, that was what Nazi
and Vichy propaganda called the French Resistance...'terrorists'...
They also singled out captured members who were Polish expatriates or
Jews.

The history of Zionism itself is replete with terrorist groups
responsible for assassination, sabotage, and (in the partition period)
atrocities perpetrated against ordinary civilian men, women, and
children.....Irgun, the 'Stern Gang', all neatly brushed under the
carpet. Mainstream Zionists thought that they were shit.....and were
quite happy (in wartime, at least) to see the British string a few of
them up....

You see, to use a hackneyed phrase, 'one man's terrorist is another
man's freedom fighter'.....

So, using 'terrorist' as a general adjectival label is not only plain
silly, but muddies the waters. All terrorism has a distinct political
and historical context that frames it.

> >> It is good people see the Palestinians for what they are all Terrorist.
> >> That is what you want people to believe about all Israeli's correct?.
>
> >Better get the death camps going.  In self defense against terrorists, of
> >course.
>
>         What because some jews are zionist all are to you.  Well to me
> because some Palestinians are terrorist all are.   Same logic.

Silly arguments....

>
>       I was and am happy the protesters actually helped with her
> business.  They did not intimidate the to stop selling Israeli goods.

I have a long memory. As a teenager, rightly or wrongly, I helped
organise boycotts against businesses that traded with South Africa,
because I thought Apartheid was evil. British Trade Unions supported
anti-German boycotts in the 1930's, because their members were opposed
to Nazism and Jewish persecution. Was I a terrorist? Were they?

>
>         Maybe we should start protesting all things Muslim in Canada
> and the USA.  Protest in the same way these people did.

Why?

You might as well pick on Buddhists or Sikhs instead....

Dr. Barry Worthington

> >>>--
> >>>?Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution
> >>>inevitable? -JFK
>
> >--
> >“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution

> >inevitable” -JFK- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[MattB.]

Don't know history that well of that time did these people target
kids?

>
>The history of Zionism itself is replete with terrorist groups
>responsible for assassination, sabotage, and (in the partition period)
>atrocities perpetrated against ordinary civilian men, women, and
>children.....Irgun, the 'Stern Gang', all neatly brushed under the
>carpet. Mainstream Zionists thought that they were shit.....and were
>quite happy (in wartime, at least) to see the British string a few of
>them up....
>
>You see, to use a hackneyed phrase, 'one man's terrorist is another
>man's freedom fighter'.....
>
>So, using 'terrorist' as a general adjectival label is not only plain
>silly, but muddies the waters. All terrorism has a distinct political
>and historical context that frames it.

So are you saying those that did 9/11 were freedom fighters? Those
that blow themselves up outside Mosques are freedom fighters?

Do you consider Hamas to be freedom fighters when they blew up all
those kids in a club done with a suicide bomb? They targeted those
teens. Gaza had a chance at freedom Israel left, even left them a
fully functional greenhouse system which they destroyed. They did not
give it a chance.

Islam is much like the Nazi's except instead of being the superior
race they think themselves the superior religion.

So to you and the left all these bombing done many times a week are
done by freedom fighters.

That dutch parliament member now in hiding is being targeted by
freedom fighters. Dutch were dumb they let in a bunch of immigrants
that now claim they own the country? Lesson there never let Muslims
in.

The Muslims in Florida I knew had no trouble living side by side with
everyone. Although to a certain leftist they are pale Muslims to me
they showed the best of Islam. Never did see them in a burka although
some wore scarves.

>
>> >> It is good people see the Palestinians for what they are all Terrorist.
>> >> That is what you want people to believe about all Israeli's correct?.
>>
>> >Better get the death camps going.  In self defense against terrorists, of
>> >course.
>>
>>         What because some jews are zionist all are to you.  Well to me
>> because some Palestinians are terrorist all are.   Same logic.
>
>Silly arguments....

True and that was my point can't place all of any race or religion
in on pot. Good and bad in all.

>
>>
>>       I was and am happy the protesters actually helped with her
>> business.  They did not intimidate the to stop selling Israeli goods.
>
>I have a long memory. As a teenager, rightly or wrongly, I helped
>organise boycotts against businesses that traded with South Africa,
>because I thought Apartheid was evil. British Trade Unions supported
>anti-German boycotts in the 1930's, because their members were opposed
>to Nazism and Jewish persecution. Was I a terrorist? Were they?

Well maybe I need a better word and yet the word terrorist when
you hear it what comes to mind after watching the news?

Most think of Muhammad wearing a bomb.

>
>>
>>         Maybe we should start protesting all things Muslim in Canada
>> and the USA.  Protest in the same way these people did.
>
>Why?
>
>You might as well pick on Buddhists or Sikhs instead....

Why? Have they done this to a business?

[Steve]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 01:58:17 -0800 (PST), trainguard
<barry_wo...@sky.com> wrote:

A terrorist is simply someone who attempts to terrorize. Simple as
that.

>> >> It is good people see the Palestinians for what they are all Terrorist.
>> >> That is what you want people to believe about all Israeli's correct?.
>>
>> >Better get the death camps going.  In self defense against terrorists, of
>> >course.
>>
>>         What because some jews are zionist all are to you.  Well to me
>> because some Palestinians are terrorist all are.   Same logic.
>
>Silly arguments....
>
>>
>>       I was and am happy the protesters actually helped with her
>> business.  They did not intimidate the to stop selling Israeli goods.
>
>I have a long memory. As a teenager, rightly or wrongly, I helped
>organise boycotts against businesses that traded with South Africa,
>because I thought Apartheid was evil. British Trade Unions supported
>anti-German boycotts in the 1930's, because their members were opposed
>to Nazism and Jewish persecution. Was I a terrorist? Were they?

<ROTFLMAO> The mere notion of a momma's boy like Worthington as a
terrorist brings laughter...

[Steve]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:27:42 -0800, MattB <trdel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Here's something I did way back when I was in college and the little
machine shop where I was working got picketed one morning. Most of us
really needed the job and kept going to work. As we came to work,
several picketers stood in front of the door blocking our entrance.
When we tried to push through they locked their arms and stood fast. I
pretended to try to squeeze through and as I did I simply jammed the
heel of my boot on a guy's instep and put all my weight on it.. his
arms came unlocked... The next morning we had cops on the scene and
the picketers could only stand by and watch..

[Steve]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:18:50 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <8e7mk7dm911npi27m...@4ax.com>,

> MattB <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >> I have no fear of that whore of a palestinian in charge of the
>> >> protest. She is free to protest as long as she stays out of my face.
>> >
>> >She doesn't have to stay out of your face as long as her actions are lawful.
>> >And
>> >it's not up to you to decide if they aren't: that's why civilised people
>> >have
>> >courts.
>>
>> Well if my face means close enough to feel spit and see her rotten
>> teeth. No she doesn't have that right.
>

>Actually she does.

Actually, she doesn't..

> Different cultures have different norms on interpersonal
>distance.

...and in most states, invasion of personal space is considered
assault.. It matters not what her <LOL> norm is, you have a right to
protect your personal space and push her away.

> If you don't like it, step back. If you think she broke a law, call
>the police. They want you to call them instead of committing your own crimes.
>

>> Well the Sioux Nation owned it first. Israel owned their land
>> first. Were no Muslims then.
>

>If the Bible says you're liar. Exodus, Joshua, and other books talk about Israel
>taking the land away from previous inhabitants. Some of the inhabitants stuck
>around and became part of the Palestinians.
>

>> >> See here you go again Lying. I have said over and over those
>> >> Ultra-orthidox freaks in the west bank are almost as bad. They
>> >
>> >Almost as bad? Gee, that's magnaminous of you.
>>
>> They have not gone into a room full of kids and blown them up yet.
>> If so please post it?
>

>'There is an old saying: kill one man, you're a murderer. Kill a million, a
>king. Kill them all, a god.'
>
>So you don't care about dropping bombs on apartment buildings and killing
>children that way. That fits what with you being a bigot and all.
>

>> >> haven't bombed a club full of teens yet, like Hamas did. They use
>> >> terror as well just at a different level.
>> >
>
>> >They just murder innocent people in mosques and Israeli prime ministers. But
>> >you
>> >don't have problem with that.
>>
>> Israelis current prime minister is a ass. I have no proof but he
>

>So you have no response to the facts. Quelle surprise.
>

>> >> No she does not have the right to prevent me from going into the
>> >> store. "she got in my face" She can protest all she wants. She
>> >> actually made people buy more Israeli goods anyway.
>> >
>> >Both Canada and the US have due process which means residents and citizens
>> >agree
>> >to let courts decide whether others have violated the laws. You whine about
>> >terrorism and boast you want to be a criminal.
>>
>> Then when I did not stop and she landed on her ass. She could
>

>You confusing your fantasies with reality.
>

>> >> LOL Someone tries to block my way I can deal with it.
>> >
>> >Only if you want to break the law. Though that is consistent with your
>> >selective
>> >outrage about some terrorism and not others.
>>
>> Then I'd take the law into my own hands. Muslims are not going to
>

>And that makes you brave and righteous? But when Moslems do so, it's a crime
>against humanity? You are a bigot.
>

>> block people from going to stores they don't agree with. Sorry not
>> going to happen. You seem to forget if she is blocking my way it is
>> she who broke the law. If she moves to do so again then well.......
>

>It's not your decision if she broke a law. You don't seem to get that point: if
>you want others to obey the laws, you should obey them to.
>

>> >> No it would be more fun to see if they send a dime to Hamas
>> >
>> >In other words you're too lazy to do anything. And too stupid to know
>> >governments already track financing of PA and Hamas.
>>
>> Lazy to do what it is over. Didn't you even read the article?
>

>Run away! Run away!

>
>> >> >> Canada. Lets see there are a few in Seattle to start. PAste signs
>> >> >> saying to do business with them supports terrorist. Just as true as
>> >> >> what this Palestinian women was saying about that store.
>

>> OK Where did this come from. I never said I would do that.
>

>You want others to paste signs. You didn't specify whether you wanted them to
>deface property to do so.
>

>> Your just mad that the store is doing so good. That the protest
>

>What makes you think I give a shit about some store in another country?
>

>> Most the Muslims I know in the States aren't to happy with the
>> terrorist either. There are good Muslims just not any good radicals.
>

[trainguard]

Does any 'terrorist' target kids in particular? You could ask IRA
sympathisers in a Boston bar....

> >The history of Zionism itself is replete with terrorist groups
> >responsible for assassination, sabotage, and (in the partition period)
> >atrocities perpetrated against ordinary civilian men, women, and
> >children.....Irgun, the 'Stern Gang', all neatly brushed under the
> >carpet. Mainstream Zionists thought that they were shit.....and were
> >quite happy (in wartime, at least) to see the British string a few of
> >them up....
>
> >You see, to use a hackneyed phrase, 'one man's terrorist is another
> >man's freedom fighter'.....
>
> >So, using 'terrorist' as a general adjectival label is not only plain
> >silly, but muddies the waters. All terrorism has a distinct political
> >and historical context that frames it.
>
>   So are you saying those that did 9/11 were freedom fighters?   Those
> that blow themselves up outside Mosques are freedom fighters?

Someone might think so........otherwise, they would have no support
(however limited that support might be).

>
>  Do you consider Hamas to be freedom fighters when they blew up all
> those kids in a club done with a suicide bomb?  They targeted those
> teens.

I don't agree with any form of terrorism. Full stop. Doesn't matter
whether it's Palestinian extremists, Zionist 'settlers', or the
Israeli Army. I'm sure that these 'terrorists' thought that (in the
circumstances) they were doing the right thing.

>Gaza had a chance at freedom Israel left,  even left them a
> fully functional greenhouse system which they destroyed.  They did not
> give it a chance.

Assuming that this is true, I'm not sure what this has to do with
anything....

>
> Islam is much like the Nazi's except instead of being the superior
> race they think themselves the superior religion.

Do you know many Muslims?

>
>   So to you and the left

The 'left'? Where does the 'left' (whatever you mean by that term)
come into the equation?

>all these bombing done many times a week are
> done by freedom fighters.

Maybe they think that they are. I'm sure that the 'terrorists' who
destroyed my city centre and killed two children in an adjacent town
thought that. But they were financed and supported by your countrymen,
so I suppose it doesn't count....

>
>   That dutch parliament member now in hiding is being targeted by
> freedom fighters.  Dutch were dumb they let in a bunch of immigrants
> that now claim they own the country?  Lesson there never let Muslims
> in.

Have you ever been to the Netherlands? Do you actually know why
Muslims live there?

>
> The Muslims in Florida I knew had no trouble living side by side with
> everyone.

And that doesn't tell you something?

>Although to a certain leftist they are pale Muslims to me
> they showed the best of Islam.  Never did see them in a burka although
> some wore scarves.

I'm sorry, but you are starting to sound like a nutter....

> >> >> It is good people see the Palestinians for what they are all Terrorist.
> >> >> That is what you want people to believe about all Israeli's correct?.
>
> >> >Better get the death camps going.  In self defense against terrorists, of
> >> >course.
>
> >>         What because some jews are zionist all are to you.  Well to me
> >> because some Palestinians are terrorist all are.   Same logic.
>
> >Silly arguments....
>
>   True and that was my point can't place all of any race or religion
> in on pot.  Good and bad in all.

You do realise that this contradicts what you said about the
Netherlands?

> >>       I was and am happy the protesters actually helped with her
> >> business.  They did not intimidate the to stop selling Israeli goods.
>
> >I have a long memory. As a teenager, rightly or wrongly, I helped
> >organise boycotts against businesses that traded with South Africa,
> >because I thought Apartheid was evil. British Trade Unions supported
> >anti-German boycotts in the 1930's, because their members were opposed
> >to Nazism and Jewish persecution. Was I a terrorist? Were they?
>
>     Well maybe I need a better word and yet the word terrorist when
> you hear it what comes to mind after watching the news?

Only to people like you....

>
> Most think of Muhammad wearing a bomb.

You really are weird!

>
>
>
> >>         Maybe we should start protesting all things Muslim in Canada
> >> and the USA.  Protest in the same way these people did.
>
> >Why?
>
> >You might as well pick on Buddhists or Sikhs instead....
>
>  Why?    Have they done this to a business?

I'm a Christian. I wouldn't knowingly buy Israeli produce at the
moment. Will you now pick on Christians?


Dr. Barry Worthington

[trainguard]

On Feb 27, 10:56 am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:27:42 -0800, MattB <trdell1...@gmail.com>

> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:09:39 -0800, China Blue Sea

> ><chine.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>In article <qjvlk7t9d2612nc0rlft8j8pfb86one...@4ax.com>,

Actually, this is what happened....(I know it for a fact). Steve was
never in College (which is why he refuses to divulge information about
his academic career or qualifications). Steve needed the money he
earned so much that he was prepared to take the bread out of the
mouths of his workmates' children, and be a blackleg. But he chose the
wrong lot. He tried to cross the picket-line, but they lost their
temper (he wasn't a likeable guy in the first place). So the proceeded
to kick the shit out of him. Then their wives turned up. They pulled
his pants down and smeared his balls with oil and heavy duty grease,
the kind that's almost impossible to get rid of. That's the
traditional fate of blacklegs. Of course, Steve has never got over
this, and has been rather deranged ever since...he walks around
muttering to himself. Unfortunately, he has access to a computer and
the internet, and now stalks people as targets of his vengeful
wrath...payback time!

You see, Steve, my fantasy is as good as yours......

Dr. Barry Worthington

> >terrorist either.  There are good Muslims just not any good radicals.- Hide quoted text -

[trainguard]

On Feb 27, 11:44 am, China Blue Sea <chine.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <kjnmk7da70dp4fmh5j92801s4ndorf4...@4ax.com>,

>
>  Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> > ...and in most states, invasion of personal space is considered
> > assault..  It matters not what her <LOL> norm is, you have a right to
> > protect your personal space and push her away.
>

> And your criminal code cite for that is?


You see...Steve is waiting for that knock on the door....


Dr. Barry Worthington

>
> --
> My name Indigo Montoya.      |    R'lyeh 38o57'6.5''S 102o51'16''E.
> You flamed my father.        |       I'm whoever you want me to be.
> Prepare to be spanked.       |  Annoying Usenet one post at a time.
> Stop posting that!           |    At least I can stay in character.

[Steve]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 03:44:03 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <kjnmk7da70dp4fmh5...@4ax.com>,

> Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>
>> ...and in most states, invasion of personal space is considered
>> assault.. It matters not what her <LOL> norm is, you have a right to
>> protect your personal space and push her away.
>

>And your criminal code cite for that is?

http://www.bestdefender.com/assault.html

http://www.guevaracoloradolaw.com/blog/2012/01/understanding-self-defense-in-colorado-assault-cases.shtml

[Steve]

Like all Leftists, Worthington has fantasies...

(I know it for a fact). Steve was
>never in College (which is why he refuses to divulge information about
>his academic career or qualifications). Steve needed the money he
>earned so much that he was prepared to take the bread out of the
>mouths of his workmates' children, and be a blackleg. But he chose the
>wrong lot. He tried to cross the picket-line, but they lost their
>temper (he wasn't a likeable guy in the first place). So the proceeded
>to kick the shit out of him. Then their wives turned up. They pulled
>his pants down and smeared his balls with oil and heavy duty grease,
>the kind that's almost impossible to get rid of. That's the
>traditional fate of blacklegs. Of course, Steve has never got over
>this, and has been rather deranged ever since...he walks around
>muttering to himself. Unfortunately, he has access to a computer and
>the internet, and now stalks people as targets of his vengeful
>wrath...payback time!
>
>You see, Steve, my fantasy is as good as yours......

<chuckles> Of course, most of Worthington's fantasies involve
homosexual acts...

[Steve]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 03:48:58 -0800 (PST), trainguard
<barry_wo...@sky.com> wrote:

>On Feb 27, 11:44 am, China Blue Sea <chine.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> In article <kjnmk7da70dp4fmh5j92801s4ndorf4...@4ax.com>,
>>
>>  Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> > ...and in most states, invasion of personal space is considered
>> > assault..  It matters not what her <LOL> norm is, you have a right to
>> > protect your personal space and push her away.
>>
>> And your criminal code cite for that is?
>
>
>You see...Steve is waiting for that knock on the door....

We have a doorbell, Worthless, but then, someone must first get
through the gate in order to get to it.

[Steve]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 03:53:30 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <limmk71eakd8hspjo...@4ax.com>,

> Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's something I did way back when I was in college and the little
>> machine shop where I was working got picketed one morning. Most of us
>> really needed the job and kept going to work. As we came to work,
>> several picketers stood in front of the door blocking our entrance.
>> When we tried to push through they locked their arms and stood fast. I
>> pretended to try to squeeze through and as I did I simply jammed the
>> heel of my boot on a guy's instep and put all my weight on it.. his
>> arms came unlocked... The next morning we had cops on the scene and
>> the picketers could only stand by and watch..
>

>So you were going to be fired for waiting for the police to escort you through
>the line, and this was a job you were willing to injure other people to keep.

They made the choice to be injured, not me. I merely did what I
always did, walk through the door to my job, which I had a perfect
right to do. His was his choice to refuse to remove his foot from my
way.

[Steve]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 04:35:39 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <sarmk7li995arq1jv...@4ax.com>,

> Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>
>> >to kick the shit out of him. Then their wives turned up. They pulled
>> >his pants down and smeared his balls with oil and heavy duty grease,
>> >the kind that's almost impossible to get rid of. That's the
>

>> <chuckles> Of course, most of Worthington's fantasies involve
>> homosexual acts...
>

>So you're a woman.

<LOL> so you're a moron?

[Steve]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 04:33:38 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <u2smk7142diduf6i3...@4ax.com>,

> Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 03:44:03 -0800, China Blue Sea
>> <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <kjnmk7da70dp4fmh5...@4ax.com>,
>> > Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> ...and in most states, invasion of personal space is considered
>> >> assault.. It matters not what her <LOL> norm is, you have a right to
>> >> protect your personal space and push her away.
>> >
>> >And your criminal code cite for that is?
>>
>> http://www.bestdefender.com/assault.html
>

>Modern American statutes define assault as:
>1. an attempt to cause or purposely, knowingly, or recklessly causing bodily
>injury to another; or,
>2. negligently causing bodily injury to another with a deadly weapon.

>Some states also define assault as an attempt to menace (or actual menacing) by
>placing another person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury.
...which is what having someone shouting in you face would be...

from my cite above...

"Simple assault can consist simply of the violation of one's personal
space or touching in a way the victim deemed inappropriate. (i.e.
one's personal space consists of arm's reach.)"


>> http://www.guevaracoloradolaw.com/blog/2012/01/understanding-self-defense-in-c
>> olorado-assault-cases.shtml
>
>....or otherwise indicating that they have the intent to do physical harm to you
>or another person can be grounds for using physical force to defend yourself.
>
>
>Read your own cites, idiot.

<LOL> nice snip job.. here's the whole quote..

Many people think that you have to wait to be physically attacked to
defend yourself. Often, in a charged situation, someone getting into
your personal space, making threats or otherwise indicating that they
have the intent to do physical harm to you or another person can be
grounds for using physical force to defend yourself.

[trainguard]

On Feb 27, 12:35 pm, China Blue Sea <chine.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <sarmk7li995arq1jv46h13gttmsp0hf...@4ax.com>,

>
>  Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> > >to kick the shit out of him. Then their wives turned up. They pulled
> > >his pants down and smeared his balls with oil and heavy duty grease,
> > >the kind that's almost impossible to get rid of. That's the

> > <chuckles>  Of course, most of Worthington's fantasies involve
> > homosexual acts...
>

> So you're a woman.

He's a fantasist. And an obsessive. He's also an internet stalker, who
is overly interested in what he imagines to be other posters' private
lives. Oh, and he has a mind like a sewer. Other than that.....

[Steve]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 04:47:51 -0800 (PST), trainguard
<barry_wo...@sky.com> wrote:

>On Feb 27, 12:35 pm, China Blue Sea <chine.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> In article <sarmk7li995arq1jv46h13gttmsp0hf...@4ax.com>,
>>
>>  Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> > >to kick the shit out of him. Then their wives turned up. They pulled
>> > >his pants down and smeared his balls with oil and heavy duty grease,
>> > >the kind that's almost impossible to get rid of. That's the
>> > <chuckles>  Of course, most of Worthington's fantasies involve
>> > homosexual acts...
>>
>> So you're a woman.
>
>He's a fantasist. And an obsessive. He's also an internet stalker, who
>is overly interested in what he imagines to be other posters' private
>lives. Oh, and he has a mind like a sewer. Other than that.....
>
>Dr. Barry Worthington

Poor old worthington imagined that he could garner some respect on
Usenet by claiming a Ph.D. and an interest in swinging.. Instead, he
becomes the subject of ridicule and mockery.

This is from pro-KKK, Barry Worthington who insists that
his racist hero, Woodrow Wilson, and his staff were 100%
honest when they told the NAACP that Wilson would never
have selected his friend's racist movie, "The Birth of a
Nation," for viewing at the White House had they known
it's racist theme...

Oh no, even though it was based on
and originally named "The Clansman" after the widely
circulated book and popular play au.thored by his racist
friend.

Worthington insists upon blustering about the USA while
demonstrating his ignorance about it.

It seems very likely that Worthington's "understanding" of
the U.S reconstruction period came straight from that
infamous movie/book. (see below)

"They [the reconstruction era Ku Klux Klan] were tring to dislodge what they
saw as a Northern imposed political elite...the majority
of whom happened to be coloured. You don't know much about
this period of history, do you?"
-- Barry Worthington
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/e3f6875fa23b2e68?hl=en


<chuckle> Irony anyone? ...as if there was any significant
"Northern political elite...the majority of whom happened to be
coloured."

[Steve]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 06:23:07 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <neumk7lfe037itj45...@4ax.com>,
> Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>
>> >> http://www.bestdefender.com/assault.html

>
>> "Simple assault can consist simply of the violation of one's personal
>> space or touching in a way the victim deemed inappropriate. (i.e.
>> one's personal space consists of arm's reach.)"
>

>CPC 240. An assault is an unlawful attempt, coupled with a present
>ability, to commit a violent injury on the person of another.
>
>CPC 242. A battery is any willful and unlawful use of force or violence
>upon the person of another.
>
>So in California it is not an assault simply to be closer than another person
>likes.

<LOL> ....but then this discussion was about someone getting right in
your face..

>> >> http://www.guevaracoloradolaw.com/blog/2012/01/understanding-self-defense-i
>> >> n-c
>> >> olorado-assault-cases.shtml

>
>> Many people think that you have to wait to be physically attacked to
>> defend yourself.

...and many do not... me, for one...

>>Often, in a charged situation, someone getting into
>> your personal space, making threats or otherwise indicating that they
>> have the intent to do physical harm to you or another person can be
>> grounds for using physical force to defend yourself.
>

>CRS 18-3-202. Assault in the first degree.
>
>(1) A person commits the crime of assault in the first degree if:
>(a) With intent to cause serious bodily injury to another person, he causes
>serious bodily injury to any person by means of a deadly weapon; or
>(b) With intent to disfigure another person seriously and permanently, or to
>destroy, amputate, or disable permanently a member or organ of his body, he
>causes such an injury to any person; or
>(c) Under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human
>life, he knowingly engages in conduct which creates a grave risk of death to
>another person, and thereby causes serious bodily injury to any person; or
>(e) With intent to cause serious bodily injury upon the person of a peace
>officer or firefighter, he or she threatens with a deadly weapon a peace officer
>or firefighter engaged in the performance of his or her duties, and the offender
>knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a peace officer or
>firefighter acting in the performance of his or her duties; or
>(e.5) With intent to cause serious bodily injury upon the person of a judge of a
>court of competent jurisdiction or an officer of said court, he threatens with a
>deadly weapon a judge of a court of competent jurisdiction or an officer of said
>court, and the offender knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a
>judge of a court of competent jurisdiction or an officer of said court; or
>(f) While lawfully confined or in custody ...
>
>CRS 18-3-203. Assault in the second degree.
>
>(1) A person commits the crime of assault in the second degree if:
>(b) With intent to cause bodily injury to another person, he or she causes such
>injury to any person by means of a deadly weapon; or
>(c) With intent to prevent one whom he or she knows, or should know, to be a
>peace officer or firefighter from performing a lawful duty, he or she
>intentionally causes bodily injury to any person; or
>(d) He recklessly causes serious bodily injury to another person by means of a
>deadly weapon; or
>(e) ...he intentionally causes stupor, unconsciousness, or other physical or
>mental impairment...
>(f) While lawfully confined or in custody,...
>(f.5) (I) While lawfully confined in a detention facility within this state,...
>
>CRS 18-3-204. Assault in the third degree.
>
>(1) A person commits the crime of assault in the third degree if:
>(a) The person knowingly or recklessly causes bodily injury to another person or
>with criminal negligence the person causes bodily injury to another person by
>means of a deadly weapon; or
>(b) The person, with intent to infect, injure, harm, harass, annoy, threaten, or
>alarm another person whom the actor knows or reasonably should know to be a
>peace officer, a firefighter, an emergency medical care provider, or an
>emergency medical technician, causes such other person to come into contact with
>blood, seminal fluid, urine, feces, saliva, mucus, vomit, or any toxic, caustic,
>or hazardous material by any means, including but not limited to throwing,
>tossing, or expelling such fluid or material.
>
>CRS 18-3-206. Menacing.
>(1) A person commits the crime of menacing if, by any threat or physical action,
>he or she knowingly places or attempts to place another person in fear of
>imminent serious bodily injury. Menacing is a class 3 misdemeanor, but, it is a
>class 5 felony if committed:

Indeed...

>(a) By the use of a deadly weapon or any article used or fashioned in a manner
>to cause a person to reasonably believe that the article is a deadly weapon; or
>(b) By the person representing verbally or otherwise that he or she is armed
>with a deadly weapon.
>
>So also in Colorado it is not an assault simply to be closer than another person
>likes. (What's interesting is how easy it is to find CPC online but not CRS. But
>it easy to find lawyers to defend assault in Colorado.)

<LOL> ....but then this discussion was about someone getting right in
your face.. Your changing the subject, like you've done here, means
you know you lost..

>Are tbere any other states you want to pretend that agree with you.

[Steve]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 06:23:42 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <ndumk7lbh1q93rqh8...@4ax.com>,

>Are you saying their wives are men?


No, I'm saying that you're a moron...

[Phlip]

On Feb 26, 1:17 pm, MattB <trdell1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> It is good people see the Palestinians for what they are all Terrorist.
> >> That is what you want people to believe about all Israeli's correct?.
>
> >Better get the death camps going.  In self defense against terrorists, of
> >course.
>
>         What because some jews are zionist all are to you.

And because some Moslems are terrorists, all are you you.

[Phlip]

On Feb 26, 12:07 pm, MattB <trdell1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:33:09 -0800 (PST), Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> No possibility it's unbiased, too!
>

> >Pick one:
>
> >I only sell products in my store made by...
>
> > __ people the same religion as me
> > __ scientologists
> > __ zionists
> > __ white people
> > __ Chinese children
>
>    What if you sell products from all over the world.  The terrorist
> lovers just want her to not sell from Israel.

The Israeli terrorists would love it.

Seriously - do you check some terrorist's creed BEFORE you give them
the well-deserved appellation "terrorist"? If it walks like a duck,
and quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck...

[Phlip]

On Feb 26, 11:50 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:

>      LOL   All you are showing is your a terrorist lover and
> supporter.   Muslims are required to support your terrorist buddies.

And US Zionists who want to send money to their Israeli terrorists
buddies can write it off as a tax deduction.

Seriously, MattB, this issue has turned you into CB. Quite the racist
against Mediterraneans all of a sudden!

[Phlip]

to

>you.

[Phlip]

On Feb 26, 6:46 pm, China Blue Sea <chine.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <gu3lk755l38va19mh1nqfqiitntb5b4...@4ax.com>,

>
>  MattB <trdell1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >     I am proud the terrorist did not win this time.  If she wants to
>

> A boycott is now an act of terrorism?

In the book /Oryx and Crake/, the crime of "interfering with the
commercial sale of products" is a crime punishable, indirectly, by
death. (Meaning Big Brother finds some other excuse to whack you. Such
as labeling you a "terrorist". Boomf!)

[Steve]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:49:47 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <c56nk7l87engci99h...@4ax.com>,

> Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 06:23:07 -0800, China Blue Sea
>> <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <neumk7lfe037itj45...@4ax.com>,
>> > Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> http://www.bestdefender.com/assault.html
>> >
>> >> "Simple assault can consist simply of the violation of one's personal
>> >> space or touching in a way the victim deemed inappropriate. (i.e.
>> >> one's personal space consists of arm's reach.)"
>> >
>> >CPC 240. An assault is an unlawful attempt, coupled with a present
>> >ability, to commit a violent injury on the person of another.
>> >
>> >CPC 242. A battery is any willful and unlawful use of force or violence
>> >upon the person of another.
>> >
>> >So in California it is not an assault simply to be closer than another
>> >person
>> >likes.
>>
>> <LOL> ....but then this discussion was about someone getting right in
>> your face..
>

>~~ Retreat? Hell, yes.
> ~~ Steve


...and your sad attempt to change the subject show you realize that
you've been defeated...

[lsrlts]

On 2/26/2012 10:58 PM, China Blue Sea wrote:
> Buy Chinese. They're atheists.

Oh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China#Religions

The Chinese government has implemented state atheism since 1949, which
makes it difficult to ascertain data on the religious population
figures. Thus making the relation between Government and religions was
not smooth in the past. But in fact, the people are still holding
private worship of traditional religions (Buddhism/Taoism) at
home.[13][15] In recent years, the Chinese government has opened up to
religion, especially traditional religions such as Mahayana Buddhism,
Taoism and Confucianism because the Government also continued to
emphasize the role of religion in building a "Harmonious Society," which
was a positive development with regard to the Government's respect for
religious freedom.[16]

According to the old Chinese government estimate, there were "over 100
million followers of various faiths" in China.[17] Other estimates put
about 100 million or about 8% Chinese who follow Buddhism, with the
second largest religion as Taoism (no data), Islam (19 million or 1.5%)
and Christianity (14 million or 1%; 4 million Roman Catholics and 10
million Protestants).[18] According to the 1993 edition of The Atlas of
Religion, the number of atheists in China is between 10 and 14 percent.[19]

Additionally, the BBC reported in February 2007 that "a poll of 4,500
people by Shanghai university professors found 31.4% of people above the
age of 16 considered themselves as religious", a figure that represents
300 million people.[20] Among those surveyed, about 2/3 were "Buddhists,
Taoists or worshipers of legendary figures such as the Dragon King and
God of Fortune." Other religions represented significantly in that
survey were Christianity (40 million) and Islam. China is also known to
have small numbers of people who follow Hinduism, Dongbaism, Bon and a
number of new religions and sects (particularly Xiantianism and Falun
Gong). The official China Daily called the Shanghai professors' research
"the country's first major survey on religious beliefs".[21] The Chinese
government have accepted these new numbers. The wide disparity among
these estimates underscores the difficulty of accurately surveying the
religious view of a nation of over a billion people and the lack of
reliable data.

However, some surveys suggest that the cultural adherents or even
outright religious adherents of Buddhism could number as high as 50% to
80% of the population, or about 660 million to over 1 billion.[22][23]
Some estimates for Taoism as high as 400 million or about 30% of the
total population,[24] but Adherents.com argues that these are actually
numbers for Chinese folk religion or Chinese traditional religion, not
Confucianism and Taoism themselves.[25]

The number of adherents to these religions can be overlaid in percentage
due to the fact that mostly Chinese consider themselves both Buddhist
and Taoist.[26][27][28][29] However, it was difficult to estimate
accurately the number of Buddhists because they did not have
congregational memberships and often did not participate in public
ceremonies.[30]

The minority religions are Christianity (between 40 million, 3%,[20] and
54 million, 4%[31]), Islam (20 million, 1.5%), Hinduism, Dongbaism, Bon
and a number of new religions and sects (particularly Xiantianism and
Falun Gong).

According to the surveys of Phil Zuckerman on Adherents.com; in 1993,
59% (over 700 million)[32] of the Chinese population was irreligious but
in the newest survey (same author) in 2005, it was only 14% (over 180
million)

[lsrlts]

On 2/26/2012 11:23 PM, China Blue Sea wrote:
> In article<jif3ui$54v$2...@dont-email.me>, lsrlts<dd...@g.nail> wrote:

>
>> On 2/26/2012 10:09 PM, China Blue Sea wrote:
>>> governments already track financing of PA and Hamas.
>>

>> And what a stellar job that has done in crippling their operations, eh?
>
> Do you running a country as the elected government?
>
Do I what???

[lsrlts]

On 2/27/2012 4:44 AM, trainguard wrote:
> Then their wives turned up. They pulled
> his pants down and smeared his balls with oil and heavy duty grease,
> the kind that's almost impossible to get rid of.

Well goodness, you've found a gross sexual fantasy to rival even your
deli-sex reverie.

What a smarmy and disgusting troll you are.

[lsrlts]

On 2/27/2012 4:53 AM, China Blue Sea wrote:
> In article<limmk71eakd8hspjo...@4ax.com>,

> Steve<steven...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's something I did way back when I was in college and the little
>> machine shop where I was working got picketed one morning. Most of us
>> really needed the job and kept going to work. As we came to work,
>> several picketers stood in front of the door blocking our entrance.
>> When we tried to push through they locked their arms and stood fast. I
>> pretended to try to squeeze through and as I did I simply jammed the
>> heel of my boot on a guy's instep and put all my weight on it.. his
>> arms came unlocked... The next morning we had cops on the scene and
>> the picketers could only stand by and watch..
>
> So you were going to be fired for waiting for the police to escort you through
> the line, and this was a job you were willing to injure other people to keep.
>

Who initiated the illegal blockade, the pickets, or he?

And why would you support such criminality anyway?

[lsrlts]

On 2/27/2012 5:01 AM, Steve wrote:
>> You see, Steve, my fantasy is as good as yours......
> <chuckles> Of course, most of Worthington's fantasies involve
> homosexual acts...
>

You know that is a very noticeable constant with him, yes.

[lsrlts]

On 2/27/2012 5:35 AM, China Blue Sea wrote:
> In article<sarmk7li995arq1jv...@4ax.com>,
> Steve<steven...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>
>>> to kick the shit out of him. Then their wives turned up. They pulled

>>> his pants down and smeared his balls with oil and heavy duty grease,

>>> the kind that's almost impossible to get rid of. That's the

>
>> <chuckles> Of course, most of Worthington's fantasies involve
>> homosexual acts...
>

> So you're a woman.
>

So you're good with crude homosexual fantasies?

[lsrlts]

On 2/27/2012 5:47 AM, trainguard wrote:
> Oh, and he has a mind like a sewer.

This from someone who just penned deli-sex and machine lubricant sex
fantasies?

You're a very troubled troll.

[2884 Dead]

Actually, most Jews are NOT Zionists. Not in America, and I doubt even
in Israel.

However, in America Jewish Zionists are outnumbered by Xian Zionists, and
there's a big difference between the two. Xian Zionists want to keep
Israel going because it has to be there for Armageddon, so God can smite
it and damn all its inhabitants to hell forever.

These don't strike me as good allies. Israel is kind of in the position
of a steer who believes the rancher feeds him each day because the
rancher loves him and wants him to live a long, healthy life.





--
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution
inevitable” -JFK





--
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution
inevitable” -JFK

[MattB]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 04:07:20 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <7kmmk7thniqr2i1mc...@4ax.com>,
> MattB. <trdel...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
>
>> Well maybe I need a better word and yet the word terrorist when
>> you hear it what comes to mind after watching the news?
>>
>> Most think of Muhammad wearing a bomb.
>
>I think about some wingnut blowing up an abortion clinic, off on some murder
>spree, pretending to be Rahowa heroes. You know, gun toting assholes.

Well abortion bombers were also terrorist. I know many people
that carry guns, I do. I as a civilian have never killed anyone.

BTW read the news for the last week only. There are several
terrorist acts. Who did them?????? No abortion clinic in the
bunch.
>
>I wouldn't be surprised if English still think about the IRA and Americans who
>armed and financed them.

That may be and I don't defend those actions. Just so happy it is
over.

I'm also happy the intimidation of this store not only failed it
backfired. Such good news.

[MattB]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:29:20 +0000 (UTC), 2884 Dead <de...@gone.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:05:22 -0800, Phlip wrote:
>
>> On Feb 26, 1:17 pm, MattB <trdell1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> >> It is good people see the Palestinians for what they are all
>>> >> Terrorist. That is what you want people to believe about all
>>> >> Israeli's correct?.
>>>
>>> >Better get the death camps going.  In self defense against terrorists,
>>> >of course.
>>>
>>>         What because some jews are zionist all are to you.
>>
>> And because some Moslems are terrorists, all are you you.
>
>Actually, most Jews are NOT Zionists. Not in America, and I doubt even
>in Israel.
>
>However, in America Jewish Zionists are outnumbered by Xian Zionists, and
>there's a big difference between the two. Xian Zionists want to keep
>Israel going because it has to be there for Armageddon, so God can smite
>it and damn all its inhabitants to hell forever.
>
>These don't strike me as good allies. Israel is kind of in the position
>of a steer who believes the rancher feeds him each day because the
>rancher loves him and wants him to live a long, healthy life.

Wasn't there a group that thought if they caused enough violence in
that area they would cause Christ return?

I have never met a Zionist that I know of. Christian, Jew or
Muslim.

If all sides in this could ignore and disarm their Radicals they
might have peace.

[MattB]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 03:23:12 -0800 (PST), trainguard
<barry_wo...@sky.com> wrote:

>On Feb 27, 10:53 am, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 01:58:17 -0800 (PST), trainguard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <barry_worthing...@sky.com> wrote:
>> >On Feb 26, 9:17 pm, MattB <trdell1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 20:47:35 +0000 (UTC), 2884 Dead <d...@gone.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:08:45 -0800, MattB wrote:
>>
>> >> >> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:06:50 +0000 (UTC), 2884 Dead <d...@gone.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >>>On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:56:03 -0800, MattB wrote:
>>
>> >> >>>> Canada store owner defeats anti-Israel boycotters
>>
>> >> >>>>http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4194633,00.html
>>
>> >> >>>> The story of Shani Bar-Oz, a Canada-based Israeli facing venomous
>> >> >>>> protests outside her Vancouver soap products store, elicited a huge
>> >> >>>> wave of support and generated new business, the shop owner old Ynet.
>>
>> >> >>>> "I received a huge embrace and plenty of support," Bar-Oz said, after
>> >> >>>> an article about her plight appeared on Ynet. In the story, the store
>> >> >>>> owner, who insists on selling Israeli products, shared her fears of
>> >> >>>> contending with anti-Israel protesters targeting her business and
>> >> >>>> shouting anti-Semitic slogans.
>>
>> >> >>>> ***********
>>
>> >> >>>>   This is good news.

>>
>> >> >>>No possibility it's unbiased, too!
>>

>> >> >>>You must be very proud.

>>
>> >> >>     I am proud the terrorist did not win this time.  If she wants to

>> >> >> sell goods made from all over the world including Israel it is not some
>> >> >> Palestinian's business.  The protest actually backfired.  I love that.
>>
>> >> >People protesting peacefully are terrorists in your Zionist little world?
>>
>> >>       No they represent terrorist .    You terrorist lovers just don't
>> >> see it.
>>
>> >When I was researching the French Resistance and the British Special
>> >Operations Exective, I became aware of many references and citations
>> >to a book called 'Nous Les Terroristes'. You see, that was what Nazi
>> >and Vichy propaganda called the French Resistance...'terrorists'...
>> >They also singled out captured members who were Polish expatriates or
>> >Jews.
>>
>>   Don't know history that well of that time did these people target
>> kids?
>
>Does any 'terrorist' target kids in particular? You could ask IRA
>sympathisers in a Boston bar....

Yes Hamas did a few times. They sent a suicide bomber into a
place kids partied and blew it up. So yes some do. They send suicide
bombers to attack people leaving worship men, women and children and
just outside a Mosque blow them up. Did these freedom fighters you
mention do that?

I thought the IRA had made peace now. Protestant vs Catholic, Sunni
vs Shia if it is the same god who cares if they worship slightly
different.
>
>> >The history of Zionism itself is replete with terrorist groups
>> >responsible for assassination, sabotage, and (in the partition period)
>> >atrocities perpetrated against ordinary civilian men, women, and
>> >children.....Irgun, the 'Stern Gang', all neatly brushed under the
>> >carpet. Mainstream Zionists thought that they were shit.....and were
>> >quite happy (in wartime, at least) to see the British string a few of
>> >them up....
>>
>> >You see, to use a hackneyed phrase, 'one man's terrorist is another
>> >man's freedom fighter'.....
>>
>> >So, using 'terrorist' as a general adjectival label is not only plain
>> >silly, but muddies the waters. All terrorism has a distinct political
>> >and historical context that frames it.
>>
>>   So are you saying those that did 9/11 were freedom fighters?   Those
>> that blow themselves up outside Mosques are freedom fighters?
>
>Someone might think so........otherwise, they would have no support
>(however limited that support might be).

Someone does. China Blue and many on the far left it seems.
>
>>
>>  Do you consider Hamas to be freedom fighters when they blew up all
>> those kids in a club done with a suicide bomb?  They targeted those
>> teens.
>
>I don't agree with any form of terrorism. Full stop. Doesn't matter
>whether it's Palestinian extremists, Zionist 'settlers', or the
>Israeli Army. I'm sure that these 'terrorists' thought that (in the
>circumstances) they were doing the right thing.

That I can agree with.

Tell me if you were the leader of a country and someone fired say
7 missiles into your country at your citizens. How would you respond?
>
> >Gaza had a chance at freedom Israel left,  even left them a
>> fully functional greenhouse system which they destroyed.  They did not
>> give it a chance.
>
>Assuming that this is true, I'm not sure what this has to do with
>anything....

It just makes having peace hard. It is true.
>
>>
>> Islam is much like the Nazi's except instead of being the superior
>> race they think themselves the superior religion.
>
>Do you know many Muslims?

Yes several and they came here to the USA to get themselves and
their families away from the radicals. They don't wear the full Burqa
there. There are some of those that are quite nice just without the
hood. They want their kids to find a middle ground between Arab
traditions and American life.

>
>>
>>   So to you and the left
>
>The 'left'? Where does the 'left' (whatever you mean by that term)
>come into the equation?

I have noticed that many liberals automatically excuse the murders
done by groups like Hamas. Such as China Blue.
>
>>all these bombing done many times a week are
>> done by freedom fighters.
>
>Maybe they think that they are. I'm sure that the 'terrorists' who
>destroyed my city centre and killed two children in an adjacent town
>thought that. But they were financed and supported by your countrymen,
>so I suppose it doesn't count....

Yes it counts and then again because wrong was done to your country
it now support equal wrong for another. They even sent a boat they
knew would not make it to Gaza.

Do you not like that the IRA has made a peace?
>
>>
>>   That dutch parliament member now in hiding is being targeted by
>> freedom fighters.  Dutch were dumb they let in a bunch of immigrants
>> that now claim they own the country?  Lesson there never let Muslims
>> in.
>
>Have you ever been to the Netherlands? Do you actually know why
>Muslims live there?

I've been all over Europe and not for enough time to really get to
know the people. That would take more than a few months. I can just
read the Dutch news. Seems to oppose immigration is a death sentence
there. The only place I felt unconformable was London.
>
>>
>> The Muslims in Florida I knew had no trouble living side by side with
>> everyone.
>
>And that doesn't tell you something?

That tells me if you remove the Radicals of all religions the
Middle East could be a great place.
>
>
> >Although to a certain leftist they are pale Muslims to me
>> they showed the best of Islam.  Never did see them in a burka although
>> some wore scarves.
>
>I'm sorry, but you are starting to sound like a nutter....

Well better than a prat ;-))))) Not good with turning feeling
into words.

>
>> >> >> It is good people see the Palestinians for what they are all Terrorist.
>> >> >> That is what you want people to believe about all Israeli's correct?.
>>
>> >> >Better get the death camps going.  In self defense against terrorists, of
>> >> >course.
>>

>> >>         What because some jews are zionist all are to you.  Well to me
>> >> because some Palestinians are terrorist all are.   Same logic.
>>
>> >Silly arguments....
>>
>>   True and that was my point can't place all of any race or religion
>> in on pot.  Good and bad in all.
>
>You do realise that this contradicts what you said about the
>Netherlands?

No not really. That lawmaker has been threatened and another
killed a few weeks ago. The leader of the Muslims in the country has
not condemned either the murder or the threats against the women
lawmaker. I'm sure there are good people of all faiths there. Then
again that doesn't excuse the murder and threats.

Tell me were all Catholics or all Protestants bad in your area
because of the acts of a few.

>
>> >>       I was and am happy the protesters actually helped with her
>> >> business.  They did not intimidate the to stop selling Israeli goods.
>>
>> >I have a long memory. As a teenager, rightly or wrongly, I helped
>> >organise boycotts against businesses that traded with South Africa,
>> >because I thought Apartheid was evil. British Trade Unions supported
>> >anti-German boycotts in the 1930's, because their members were opposed
>> >to Nazism and Jewish persecution. Was I a terrorist? Were they?

>>
>>     Well maybe I need a better word and yet the word terrorist when
>> you hear it what comes to mind after watching the news?
>

>Only to people like you....

Well to all but those that like terrorist. How many bombing were
there this week alone?

>
>>
>> Most think of Muhammad wearing a bomb.
>

>You really are weird!

Well seems I'm not alone.


http://atheistoasis.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/tolerate_suicide_bomb-islam.gif

http://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/muhammad-bomb-turban.jpg

>
>>
>>
>>
>> >>         Maybe we should start protesting all things Muslim in Canada
>> >> and the USA.  Protest in the same way these people did.
>>
>> >Why?
>>
>> >You might as well pick on Buddhists or Sikhs instead....
>>
>>  Why?    Have they done this to a business?
>
>I'm a Christian. I wouldn't knowingly buy Israeli produce at the
>moment. Will you now pick on Christians?

No but why?. Christ life and Death were planned by God. You
really need to read the Bible and ignore the radicals. Do you deny
God's purpose in Christ?

>
>
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>
>> >Dr. Barry Worthington
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>> >> >>>--
>> >> >>>?Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution
>> >> >>>inevitable? -JFK

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[MattB]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:06:47 -0800 (PST), Phlip <phli...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Well if Santorum gets elected............

[lsrlts]

On 2/27/2012 12:01 PM, China Blue Sea wrote:

> Who said it was an illegal blockade?

The cops that were there the next day?

> Did the shop get an injunction? Had anyone
> gotten a judge to make a decision?

So lose a day of work while pickets get their way?

No.

>> And why would you support such criminality anyway?
>

> It's just that mean old 'due process' from the Constitution.

He due procces'd himself into work, bravo.

[lsrlts]

On 2/27/2012 12:05 PM, China Blue Sea wrote:

> In article<jigams$2ad$3...@dont-email.me>, lsrlts<dd...@g.nail> wrote:
>
>> You might as well call me our for wife-beating while you're at it, the
>> charges will ring just as falsely.
>
>
> Oh, dear.

Don't call me dear, Shirley...

[Barry]

That hand up your backside is suddenly very active,,,,

Dr. Barry Worthington

[Barry]

On Feb 27, 8:17 pm, MattB <trdell1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 03:23:12 -0800 (PST), trainguard
>

Not sure that anyone targets chidren in particular, though children
are included in civilian asualties. Both Zionist terrorists and the
Israeli army have targetted civilians.

>
>  I thought the IRA had made peace now.  Protestant vs Catholic,  Sunni
> vs Shia if it is the same god who cares if they worship slightly
> different.

It's a little bit more thanreligious differences. Sadly, an IRA
hardcore still remains.

> >> >The history of Zionism itself is replete with terrorist groups
> >> >responsible for assassination, sabotage, and (in the partition period)
> >> >atrocities perpetrated against ordinary civilian men, women, and
> >> >children.....Irgun, the 'Stern Gang', all neatly brushed under the
> >> >carpet. Mainstream Zionists thought that they were shit.....and were
> >> >quite happy (in wartime, at least) to see the British string a few of
> >> >them up....
>
> >> >You see, to use a hackneyed phrase, 'one man's terrorist is another
> >> >man's freedom fighter'.....
>
> >> >So, using 'terrorist' as a general adjectival label is not only plain
> >> >silly, but muddies the waters. All terrorism has a distinct political
> >> >and historical context that frames it.
>
> >>   So are you saying those that did 9/11 were freedom fighters?   Those
> >> that blow themselves up outside Mosques are freedom fighters?
>
> >Someone might think so........otherwise, they would have no support
> >(however limited that support might be).
>
>     Someone does.  China Blue and many on the far left it seems.

I was thinking of people closer to home. You are being rather
silly....

> >>  Do you consider Hamas to be freedom fighters when they blew up all
> >> those kids in a club done with a suicide bomb?  They targeted those
> >> teens.
>
> >I don't agree with any form of terrorism. Full stop. Doesn't matter
> >whether it's Palestinian extremists, Zionist 'settlers', or the
> >Israeli Army. I'm sure that these 'terrorists' thought that (in the
> >circumstances) they were doing the right thing.
>
>     That I can agree with.
>
>     Tell me if you were the leader of a country and someone fired say
> 7 missiles into your country at your citizens.  How would you respond?

I would want to know why. Then I would try and eliminate the causes of
this anger...which would mean dealing with my own religious
nutters....

> > >Gaza had a chance at freedom Israel left,  even left them a
> >> fully functional greenhouse system which they destroyed.  They did not
> >> give it a chance.
>
> >Assuming that this is true, I'm not sure what this has to do with
> >anything....
>
>    It just makes having peace hard.  It is true.

It is still irrelevant....

> >> Islam is much like the Nazi's except instead of being the superior
> >> race they think themselves the superior religion.
>
> >Do you know many Muslims?
>
>    Yes several and they came here to the USA to get themselves and
> their families away from the radicals.

Most people would think that they came to the US to make a better life
for themselves...and that would be purely a calculation based upon
economic and social opportunity. Muslim 'radicals' would not be a
consideration. The fact that you think it might be suggests that you
are a fool...

 >They don't wear the full Burqa
> there.  There are some of those that are quite nice just without the
> hood.  They want their kids to find a middle ground between Arab
> traditions and American life.

Most Muslim women do not wear burquas.....

> >>   So to you and the left
>
> >The 'left'? Where does the 'left' (whatever you mean by that term)
> >come into the equation?
>
>     I have noticed that many liberals automatically excuse the murders
> done by groups like Hamas.  Such as China Blue.

I couldn't really give a toss! You seem to be a political illiterate
inthis matter.

> >>all these bombing done many times a week are
> >> done by freedom fighters.
>
> >Maybe they think that they are. I'm sure that the 'terrorists' who
> >destroyed my city centre and killed two children in an adjacent town
> >thought that. But they were financed and supported by your countrymen,
> >so I suppose it doesn't count....
>
>    Yes it counts and then again because wrong was done to your country
> it now support equal wrong for another.  They even sent a boat they
> knew would not make it to Gaza.

This is meaningless, garbled tosh!

>   Do you not like that the IRA has made a peace?

Why should I not? Is there a point to this?

>
>
> >>   That dutch parliament member now in hiding is being targeted by
> >> freedom fighters.  Dutch were dumb they let in a bunch of immigrants
> >> that now claim they own the country?  Lesson there never let Muslims
> >> in.
>
> >Have you ever been to the Netherlands? Do you actually know why
> >Muslims live there?
>
>     I've been all over Europe and not for enough time to really get to
> know the people.  That would take more than a few months.  I can just
> read the Dutch news.  Seems to oppose immigration is a death sentence
> there.  The only place I felt unconformable was London.

Why?

It's safer than most American cities!

> >> The Muslims in Florida I knew had no trouble living side by side with
> >> everyone.
>
> >And that doesn't tell you something?
>
>    That tells me if you remove the Radicals of all religions the
> Middle East could be a great place.

I think that you mean religious nutters. You can be radical but non-
violent.

> > >Although to a certain leftist they are pale Muslims to me
> >> they showed the best of Islam.  Never did see them in a burka although
> >> some wore scarves.
>
> >I'm sorry, but you are starting to sound like a nutter....
>
>    Well better than a prat  ;-)))))     Not good with turning feeling
> into words.
>
>
>
> >> >> >> It is good people see the Palestinians for what they are all Terrorist.
> >> >> >> That is what you want people to believe about all Israeli's correct?.
>
> >> >> >Better get the death camps going.  In self defense against terrorists, of
> >> >> >course.
>
> >> >>         What because some jews are zionist all are to you.  Well to me
> >> >> because some Palestinians are terrorist all are.   Same logic.
>
> >> >Silly arguments....
>
> >>   True and that was my point can't place all of any race or religion
> >> in on pot.  Good and bad in all.
>
> >You do realise that this contradicts what you said about the
> >Netherlands?
>
>     No not really.  That lawmaker has been threatened and another
> killed a few weeks ago.  The leader of the Muslims in the country has
> not condemned either the murder or the threats against the women
> lawmaker.  I'm sure there are good people of all faiths there.  Then
> again that doesn't excuse the murder and threats.
>
>   Tell me were all Catholics or all Protestants bad in your area
> because of the acts of a few.

You actually think that all Dutch Muslims are bad?

> >> >>       I was and am happy the protesters actually helped with her
> >> >> business.  They did not intimidate the to stop selling Israeli goods.
>
> >> >I have a long memory. As a teenager, rightly or wrongly, I helped
> >> >organise boycotts against businesses that traded with South Africa,
> >> >because I thought Apartheid was evil. British Trade Unions supported
> >> >anti-German boycotts in the 1930's, because their members were opposed
> >> >to Nazism and Jewish persecution. Was I a terrorist? Were they?
>
> >>     Well maybe I need a better word and yet the word terrorist when
> >> you hear it what comes to mind after watching the news?
>
> >Only to people like you....
>
>    Well to all but those that like terrorist.  How many bombing were
> there this week alone?
>
>
>
> >> Most think of Muhammad wearing a bomb.
>
> >You really are weird!
>
>   Well seems I'm not alone.
>

> http://atheistoasis.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/tolerate_suicide_bomb...
>
>  http://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/muhammad-bomb-turban.jpg

Sadly, that may be the case.....

>
>
>
> >> >>         Maybe we should start protesting all things Muslim in Canada
> >> >> and the USA.  Protest in the same way these people did.
>
> >> >Why?
>
> >> >You might as well pick on Buddhists or Sikhs instead....
>
> >>  Why?    Have they done this to a business?
>
> >I'm a Christian. I wouldn't knowingly buy Israeli produce at the
> >moment. Will you now pick on Christians?
>
>    No but why?.  Christ life and Death were planned by God.  You
> really need to read the Bible and ignore the radicals.  Do you deny
> God's purpose in Christ?

What has that got to do with current Israeli policy?

[Phlip]

On Feb 27, 1:43 pm, lsrlts <d...@g.nail> wrote:
> On 2/27/2012 12:05 PM, China Blue Sea wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> > In article<jigamu$2a...@dont-email.me>, lsrlts<d...@g.nail>  wrote:

>
> >> On 2/26/2012 11:23 PM, China Blue Sea wrote:

> >>> In article<jif3ui$54...@dont-email.me>, lsrlts<d...@g.nail>   wrote:
>
> >>>> On 2/26/2012 10:09 PM, China Blue Sea wrote:
> >>>>> governments already track financing of PA and Hamas.
>
> >>>> And what a stellar job that has done in crippling their operations, eh?
>
> >>> Do you running a country as the elected government?
>
> >> Do I what???
>

> > In article<jigams$2a...@dont-email.me>, lsrlts<d...@g.nail>  wrote:

>
> >> You might as well call me our for wife-beating while you're at it, the
> >> charges will ring just as falsely.
>
> > Oh, dear.
>
> Don't call me dear, Shirley...

you coppied all that quotage just to add one line?

[Phlip]

On Feb 27, 12:19 pm, MattB <trdell1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:06:47 -0800 (PST), Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com>

yay! America is officially Dominionist!

[Steve]

and gosh, all I did was try to squeeze through...

[Steve]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:03:02 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <33bnk7hh56oabr4lq...@4ax.com>,

>Keep telling yourself that. You might even believe it, coward.

<CHUCKLE> you're the coward trying to change the subject from "in
your face" to "simply to be closer than another person likes."

[Steve]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:01:27 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Who said it was an illegal blockade? Did the shop get an injunction? Had anyone

>gotten a judge to make a decision?

<SNORT> Only in the demented mind of a far left freak could anyone
have a legal right to stand in the door of somebody's business and try
to keep the employees from entering...

>> And why would you support such criminality anyway?
>

[Steve]

More homosexual fantasies from Worthington. It must be all he thinks
about.

[MattB.]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:04:29 -0800 (PST), Phlip <phli...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Feb 26, 12:07 pm, MattB <trdell1...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:33:09 -0800 (PST), Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> No possibility it's unbiased, too!
>>

>> >Pick one:
>>
>> >I only sell products in my store made by...
>>
>> > __ people the same religion as me
>> > __ scientologists
>> > __ zionists
>> > __ white people
>> > __ Chinese children
>>
>>    What if you sell products from all over the world.  The terrorist
>> lovers just want her to not sell from Israel.
>
>The Israeli terrorists would love it.
>
>Seriously - do you check some terrorist's creed BEFORE you give them
>the well-deserved appellation "terrorist"? If it walks like a duck,
>and quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck...


Then it is a palestinian that help Israel get more business. Good
job.

[MattB.]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:08:48 -0800 (PST), Phlip <phli...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Feb 26, 11:50 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com.......> wrote:
>
>>      LOL   All you are showing is your a terrorist lover and
>> supporter.   Muslims are required to support your terrorist buddies.
>
>And US Zionists who want to send money to their Israeli terrorists
>buddies can write it off as a tax deduction.

Noticed you cut out the part where she called the Muslims in the
States that don't support terrorist activities "house moslems a
paler" So to the left Muslims that reject violence are house
Muslims. Well then lets pray we get more house Muslims in the world.
>
>Seriously, MattB, this issue has turned you into CB. Quite the racist
>against Mediterraneans all of a sudden!

No I am against murder and terrorist. Like I have said there are
good and bad in all races and religions. Seems leftist have a filter
on anything anti-terrorist.

Like I said I am just glad the protest backfired and her business
actually got more costumers.

What I have noticed is that many leftist are pro terrorist or
pro Muslim Terrorist.

[MattB.]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 05:56:49 -0500, Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:27:42 -0800, MattB <trdel...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:09:39 -0800, China Blue Sea
>><chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <qjvlk7t9d2612nc0r...@4ax.com>,
>>> MattB <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have no fear of that whore of a palestinian in charge of the
>>>> protest. She is free to protest as long as she stays out of my face.
>>>
>>>She doesn't have to stay out of your face as long as her actions are lawful. And
>>>it's not up to you to decide if they aren't: that's why civilised people have
>>>courts.
>>
>> Well if my face means close enough to feel spit and see her rotten
>>teeth. No she doesn't have that right.
>>>
>>>> >The only people stopping you are wingnuts like you that equate all protest
>>>> >to
>>>> >terrorism.
>>>>
>>>> Not all just Palestinian.
>>>
>>>Thanks for admitting to your bigotry. I'm sure the Sioux Nation appreciates your
>>>apathy for the theft of their Black Hills.
>>
>> Well the Sioux Nation owned it first. Israel owned their land
>>first. Were no Muslims then.
>>>
>>>> See here you go again Lying. I have said over and over those
>>>> Ultra-orthidox freaks in the west bank are almost as bad. They
>>>
>>>Almost as bad? Gee, that's magnaminous of you.
>>
>> They have not gone into a room full of kids and blown them up yet.
>>If so please post it?
>>
>> It is only in manner of degree. Tell me how can you support all
>>the terrorist acts we see weekly in the world most if not all done by
>>Muslims. Tell me what did those kids murdered on 9/11 ever do to any
>>Muslims? How can you keep justifying this type of thing.
>>>
>>>> haven't bombed a club full of teens yet, like Hamas did. They use
>>>> terror as well just at a different level.
>>>
>>>They just murder innocent people in mosques and Israeli prime ministers. But you
>>>don't have problem with that.
>>
>> Israelis current prime minister is a ass. I have no proof but he
>>is in bed with the Ultra-orthidox "Haredi " nutcases. They like the
>>Islamist now think everyone should live by their rules. Someday one
>>of those woman they harass will be X service and take them down and
>>shave them.
>>
>>>
>>>> No she does not have the right to prevent me from going into the
>>>> store. "she got in my face" She can protest all she wants. She
>>>> actually made people buy more Israeli goods anyway.
>>>
>>>Both Canada and the US have due process which means residents and citizens agree
>>>to let courts decide whether others have violated the laws. You whine about
>>>terrorism and boast you want to be a criminal.
>>
>> Then when I did not stop and she landed on her ass. She could
>>call the court. She doesn't even in the liberal mindset have the
>>right to block traffic or the freedom of movement. Even id she is a
>>pig.
>>>
>>>> LOL Someone tries to block my way I can deal with it.
>>>
>>>Only if you want to break the law. Though that is consistent with your selective
>>>outrage about some terrorism and not others.
>>
>> Then I'd take the law into my own hands. Muslims are not going to
>>block people from going to stores they don't agree with. Sorry not
>>going to happen. You seem to forget if she is blocking my way it is
>>she who broke the law. If she moves to do so again then well.......

>
>Here's something I did way back when I was in college and the little
>machine shop where I was working got picketed one morning. Most of us
>really needed the job and kept going to work. As we came to work,
>several picketers stood in front of the door blocking our entrance.
>When we tried to push through they locked their arms and stood fast. I
>pretended to try to squeeze through and as I did I simply jammed the
>heel of my boot on a guy's instep and put all my weight on it.. his
>arms came unlocked... The next morning we had cops on the scene and
>the picketers could only stand by and watch..

Muslims have special rights. I'd just open my jacket a little
if she blocked me. Then chew a pork sausage and return her spittle.

Leftist terrorist lovers think only their buddies have any rights.

The palestinian dog just helped Israel. That alone is great to me.

BTW see the leftist are mad at you now. How dare you not bow
before them. They show what is so evil about the far left and why
support for democrats is questionable.
>
>>>> No it would be more fun to see if they send a dime to Hamas
>>>
>>>In other words you're too lazy to do anything. And too stupid to know

>>>governments already track financing of PA and Hamas.
>>

>> Lazy to do what it is over. Didn't you even read the article?
>>I'm just glad it backfired. The store business has actually gone up.
>>This is great news.
>>
>>>
>>>> >> Canada. Lets see there are a few in Seattle to start. PAste signs
>>>> >> saying to do business with them supports terrorist. Just as true as
>>>> >> what this Palestinian women was saying about that store.
>>>> >
>>>> >I'm not stopping you unless deface other people's property.
>>>>
>>>> Why would I do that. That would make me as bad as that
>>>> Palestinian pig in Canada.
>>>
>>>If you paste signs on public property or other people's property without
>>>permission, you are defacing it.
>>
>> OK Where did this come from. I never said I would do that.
>>>
>>>> >> Wonder if they have a web site I'll have to give them business as my
>>>> >> form of protest against terrorism.
>>>> >
>>>> >http://www.nusacc.org/
>>>> >
>>>> >Have at it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No the store.
>>>
>>>Whiner.
>>
>> Your just mad that the store is doing so good. That the protest
>>backfired and the people of Canada saw it for what it was. Canada is
>>a good place and many different groups live there. Most came to get
>>away from the problems in thier home countries.
>>
>> Most the Muslims I know in the States aren't to happy with the
>>terrorist either. There are good Muslims just not any good radicals.

[MattB.]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 03:53:30 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <limmk71eakd8hspjo...@4ax.com>,

> Steve <steven...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's something I did way back when I was in college and the little
>> machine shop where I was working got picketed one morning. Most of us
>> really needed the job and kept going to work. As we came to work,
>> several picketers stood in front of the door blocking our entrance.
>> When we tried to push through they locked their arms and stood fast. I
>> pretended to try to squeeze through and as I did I simply jammed the
>> heel of my boot on a guy's instep and put all my weight on it.. his
>> arms came unlocked... The next morning we had cops on the scene and
>> the picketers could only stand by and watch..
>

>So you were going to be fired for waiting for the police to escort you through
>the line, and this was a job you were willing to injure other people to keep.

No it was the protesters in the wrong. Should have had some mace
for them.

[MattB.]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:16:16 -0700, lsrlts <dd...@g.nail> wrote:

>On 2/27/2012 4:53 AM, China Blue Sea wrote:
>> In article<limmk71eakd8hspjo...@4ax.com>,
>> Steve<steven...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's something I did way back when I was in college and the little
>>> machine shop where I was working got picketed one morning. Most of us
>>> really needed the job and kept going to work. As we came to work,
>>> several picketers stood in front of the door blocking our entrance.
>>> When we tried to push through they locked their arms and stood fast. I
>>> pretended to try to squeeze through and as I did I simply jammed the
>>> heel of my boot on a guy's instep and put all my weight on it.. his
>>> arms came unlocked... The next morning we had cops on the scene and
>>> the picketers could only stand by and watch..
>>
>> So you were going to be fired for waiting for the police to escort you through
>> the line, and this was a job you were willing to injure other people to keep.
>>

>Who initiated the illegal blockade, the pickets, or he?
>

>And why would you support such criminality anyway?

She/He/it seem to do so often.

[MattB.]

I agree. Bravo

[trainguard]

On Feb 28, 1:12 am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:01:05 -0800 (PST), Barry
>

> <barry_worthing...@sky.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 27, 4:17 pm, lsrlts <d...@g.nail> wrote:
> >> On 2/27/2012 5:01 AM, Steve wrote:
>
> >> >> You see, Steve, my fantasy is as good as yours......
> >> > <chuckles>   Of course, most of Worthington's fantasies involve
> >> > homosexual acts...
>
> >> You know that is a very noticeable constant with him, yes.
>
> >That hand up your backside is suddenly very active,,,,
>
> >Dr. Barry Worthington
>
> More homosexual fantasies from Worthington.  It must be all he thinks
> about.

A comment about puppetry must appear that way to someone with a mind
like yours....

Dr. Barry Worthington

P.S. That trap was large enough to catch an elephant...only someone
who is monumentally stupid would fall into it....

Dr. Barry Worthington

[MattB.]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:15:04 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <p9nnk7t91ea4q2a38...@4ax.com>,

> MattB <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >Does any 'terrorist' target kids in particular? You could ask IRA
>> >sympathisers in a Boston bar....
>>
>> Yes Hamas did a few times. They sent a suicide bomber into a
>> place kids partied and blew it up. So yes some do. They send suicide
>> bombers to attack people leaving worship men, women and children and
>> just outside a Mosque blow them up. Did these freedom fighters you
>> mention do that?
>

>Now a person who believed that all humans were created equal, would condemn all
>killings of innocent children and adults equally. But you can't do that because
>you're a bigot. So when Palestinians fire a rocket into an empty field it's
>terrorism; when Israelis shoot a Palestinian dead it is not. When a Palestinian
>kills themselves to bomb a nightclub it is terrorism; when Irish bomb a
>nightclub without killing themselves, it's not terrorism; when Israel drops
>bombs on apartment buildings, it's not terrorism. When a few Palestinians fire
>ineffectual rockets, you want to punish all Palestinians. When Israelis lynch an
>olive orchardist, you shed a few crocodile tears, mumble about peace, and demand
>nothing be done. You want the US to hate Iran because of 1979, but you want Iran
>to forget 1953 followed by 20 years of the Shah and Savak.
>
>So, basically, you're an asshole.

See you live in a make believe world. I dislike all forms of
terrorism. You r just locked into the past and can't think beyond
your hate.

BTW firing missiles into Israel from Gaza is plain stupid. Don't like
the results don't fire the missiles. Hamas and you terror buddies
don't care if people die makes good PR as you have shown.

>
>> >I don't agree with any form of terrorism. Full stop. Doesn't matter
>> >whether it's Palestinian extremists, Zionist 'settlers', or the
>> >Israeli Army. I'm sure that these 'terrorists' thought that (in the
>> >circumstances) they were doing the right thing.
>>
>> That I can agree with.
>

>Yes, you just redefine terrorism to fit your bigotry. Since you have already
>decided the US and Israel are the righteous, it follows they cannot do
>terrorism. So even when their actions are identical to your Moslem terrorists,
>you have excuses. And now something as nonviolent and legal as a boycott you
>have declared to be terrorism when They do it.

I think it said "Any form" learn to read english.

>
>> Tell me if you were the leader of a country and someone fired say
>> 7 missiles into your country at your citizens. How would you respond?
>

>The IRA did fire mortars in London. England did not invade the Irish Republic
>nor did it bulldoze Catholics homes in Northern Ireland. Nor did it bomb IRA
>supporters in Boston. Once again you pontificate in complete ignorance.

Well Israel will and does. Guess what the retards in Gaza fired
some more today guess they never learn.

>
>> Yes several and they came here to the USA to get themselves and
>> their families away from the radicals. They don't wear the full Burqa
>> there. There are some of those that are quite nice just without the
>

>So if they don't challenge your culture and act 'white' enough, you are willing
>to abide their presence. I'm sure they appreciate your magnamity. What about
>Sikhs wearing turbans, Indians wearing saris, Japanese wearing kimonos? Are
>these okay with you.

I could care less if they wear the full thing. There choice.
They choose not to and reject the Islamic teachings. That too is
their choice. All the years I lived there they were good people and
neighbors.

There were people wearing turbans and even people wearing robes.
Not sure what religion or race they were. They harmed no one.

>
>> hood. They want their kids to find a middle ground between Arab
>> traditions and American life.
>

>American life is supposed to be about freedom, which means if Moslem women, or
>men, want to wear burkhas, they are free to do so regardless of your approval.

Did I say differently just these people choose not to. Their choice.
There is no requirement in the Koran they wear the burqa. They have
rejected that teaching again their choice.

[MattB.]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:33:10 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <s8eok7d56cds4phbk...@4ax.com>,

>Thank god we have sidewalk judges like you. Otherwise we would have to depend on
>imans.

Your very biased in your judgement, you support the criminals.
Normal leftist.

[MattB.]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:31:29 -0800, China Blue Sea
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <ufeok7l1lj0l9jqu6...@4ax.com>,

>Your contempt for the Constitution is noted.

The Constitution works for all people not just criminals like you
support. I have the right to enter a store if I choose and the
protesters do not have the right to prevent it. If I feel threatened
in some States I have the right to use self defense.

2 criminals found that out in Florida and Oklahoma and are now 6 feet
under. The Constitution supported it. 2 women are now sate and the
world is a better place.