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Stevie Nichts

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Jan 2, 2010, 8:10:46 AM1/2/10
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Connecting the dots, not:
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http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/archive/2010/01/01/exclusive-obama-got-pre-christmas-intelligence-briefing-about-terror-threats-to-homeland.aspx

President Barack Obama received a high-level briefing only three
days before Christmas about possible holiday-period terrorist
threats against the US, Newsweek has learned. The briefing was
centered on a written report, produced by US intelligence
agencies, entitled "Key Homeland Threats", a senior US official
said.

The senior Administration official, who asked for anonymity when
discussing sensitive information, said that nowhere in this
document was there any mention of Yemen, whose Al-Qaeda affiliate
is now believed to have been behind the unsuccessful Christmas Day
attempt by Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab to bring down a transatlantic
airliner with a bomb hidden in his underpants. However, the
official declined to disclose any other information about the
substance of the briefing, including what kind of specific
warnings, if any, the President was given about possibly holiday
attacks and whether Yemen came up during oral discussions.
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And ABC is reporting that the CIA "may have sat on"
crucial intelligence regarding wots-his-name too long.

The country is in the very best of hands.

5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09

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Jan 2, 2010, 11:18:51 AM1/2/10
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Better than it was the previous eight years.

Even a pathetic partisan like you has to admit that isn't exactly a "Bin
Laden determined to strike inside the United States" type of warning.

Stevie Nichts

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Jan 4, 2010, 7:36:55 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 2, 11:18 am, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
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No, it isn't; Obama is still determined to send more Gitmo
guests back to Yemen. He's. Learned. Nothing.

You'll be sticking your fingers *even tighter* into your ears
while chanting "la-la-la!" before the year is out.

5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09

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Jan 4, 2010, 11:29:00 AM1/4/10
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Aside from a sudden gust of right wing hysteria about Yemen, have these
guys, who have been stuck without charges in Gitmo for eight years, done
anything to contribute to your latest bout of cowardly pants-wetting?

>
> You'll be sticking your fingers *even tighter* into your ears while
> chanting "la-la-la!" before the year is out.

You're the fucking coward who wants to imprison people indefinitely and
without cause because the boogymen frightened you.

Stevie Nichts

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Jan 5, 2010, 7:33:01 AM1/5/10
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On Jan 4, 11:29 am, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>

You still pretend to ignorance? It's *Obama* who has suddenly
woken up to the fact that AQ is in Yemen. A little late.

> have these
> guys, who have been stuck without charges in Gitmo for eight years, done
> anything

Well, yes.
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6975971.ece

A Yemeni, Hani Abdo Shaalan, who was released from Guantánamo
in 2007, was killed in an airstrike on December 17, the Yemeni
Government reported last week. The deputy head of al-Qaeda in the
country is Said Ali al-Shihri, 36, who was released in 2007. Ibrahim
Suleiman al-Rubaish, who was released in 2006, is a prominent
ideologue featured on Yemeni al-Qaeda websites.
[...]
The US Government issued figures in May showing that 74 of the
530 detainees in Guantánamo were suspected or known to have
returned to terrorist activity since their release. They included the
commander of the Taleban in Helmand province, Mullah Zakir,
whom the British Chief of the Defence Staff, Sir Jock Stirrup,
called “a key and seemingly effective tactical leader”. Among
others who returned to terrorism was Abdullah Saleh al-Ajmi,
a Kuwaiti who killed six Iraqis in Mosul in 2008.
----

> > You'll be sticking your fingers *even tighter* into your ears while
> > chanting "la-la-la!" before the year is out.
>
> You're the fucking coward who wants to imprison people indefinitely and
> without cause because the boogymen frightened you.

You're the fucking ignoramus who pretends they're all
just plain folk. Why not invite them to your house, cupcake?

Still waiting for you to denounce Obama as a fascist.

5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:52:55 PM1/5/10
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It's never too late to feed right wing hysteria.


>
>> have these
>> guys, who have been stuck without charges in Gitmo for eight years,
>> done anything
>
> Well, yes.

Fucking right wing American coward.
> ----
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/


article6975971.ece
>
> A Yemeni, Hani Abdo Shaalan, who was released from Guantánamo in 2007,
> was killed in an airstrike on December 17, the Yemeni Government
> reported last week. The deputy head of al-Qaeda in the country is Said
> Ali al-Shihri, 36, who was released in 2007. Ibrahim Suleiman
> al-Rubaish, who was released in 2006, is a prominent ideologue featured
> on Yemeni al-Qaeda websites. [...]

And of course, you're one of those dumb assholes who thinks if someone is
killed in an American airstrike, they must have done something wrong.


> The US Government issued figures in May showing that 74 of the 530
> detainees in Guantánamo were suspected or known to have returned to
> terrorist activity since their release. They included the commander of
> the Taleban in Helmand province, Mullah Zakir, whom the British Chief of
> the Defence Staff, Sir Jock Stirrup, called “a key and seemingly
> effective tactical leader”. Among others who returned to terrorism was
> Abdullah Saleh al-Ajmi, a Kuwaiti who killed six Iraqis in Mosul in
> 2008. ----

I notice you still can't provide a cite for that one.


>
>> > You'll be sticking your fingers *even tighter* into your ears while
>> > chanting "la-la-la!" before the year is out.
>>
>> You're the fucking coward who wants to imprison people indefinitely and
>> without cause because the boogymen frightened you.
>
> You're the fucking ignoramus who pretends they're all just plain folk.
> Why not invite them to your house, cupcake?
>

Actually, I would work to undermine them by working with the legitimate
government in the regions to improve the standards of living.

But you prefer to bomb children, don't you? Makes you feel more manly.

Ernst Blofeld

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Jan 5, 2010, 8:23:19 PM1/5/10
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On Jan 5, 9:52 am, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
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> Actually, I would work to undermine them by working with the legitimate
> government in the regions to improve the standards of living.  

Captain Underpants lived in a $4 million London flat. Just how much
more are you planning on improving his standard of living in order to
dissuade him from explosively circumcising himself on an airliner?

Stevie Nichts

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Jan 6, 2010, 7:04:04 AM1/6/10
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On Jan 5, 12:52 pm, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>

Your handwaving is so frantic now, so desperate to change the
subject, that your hands are just a blur. If Bush was president,
you and the rest of the far left would be baying for his impeachment.

Obama fucked up. Accept it -- he has -- and move on. And, just
maybe, join a discussion on how to improve national security.


5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:48:21 AM1/6/10
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For holding people without charges indefinitely? If he doesn't address
it, he will be impeached. Or America will be lost. Your choice.


>
> Obama fucked up. Accept it -- he has -- and move on. And, just maybe,
> join a discussion on how to improve national security.

Fucked up in what way? You don't even know what you're arguing for any
more!

Steve

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Jan 6, 2010, 11:52:36 AM1/6/10
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>>> > A Yemeni, Hani Abdo Shaalan, who was released from Guant�namo in


>>> > 2007, was killed in an airstrike on December 17, the Yemeni
>>> > Government reported last week. The deputy head of al-Qaeda in the
>>> > country is Said Ali al-Shihri, 36, who was released in 2007. Ibrahim
>>> > Suleiman al-Rubaish, who was released in 2006, is a prominent
>>> > ideologue featured on Yemeni al-Qaeda websites. [...]
>>>
>>> And of course, you're one of those dumb assholes who thinks if someone
>>> is killed in an American airstrike, they must have done something
>>> wrong.
>>
>> Your handwaving is so frantic now, so desperate to change the subject,
>> that your hands are just a blur. If Bush was president, you and the rest
>> of the far left would be baying for his impeachment.
>
>For holding people without charges indefinitely? If he doesn't address
>it, he will be impeached. Or America will be lost. Your choice.

None of that will happen, of course.. Obammy will continue on, albeit
as a lame duck.. America will rise out of the ashes in 2012.

Rick Saunders

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Jan 7, 2010, 7:11:19 AM1/7/10
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On Jan 6, 10:48 am, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
wrote:

What color is the sky in your world? Obama's been
admitting it for days. You pretending you can't read again?

Stevie Nichts

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:01:47 PM1/7/10
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On Jan 6, 10:48 am, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
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“I am less interested in passing out blame than I am in learning from
and correcting these mistakes to make us safer. For ultimately, the
buck stops with me. … When the system fails, it is my responsibility.”

Let's see if you've yet learned how to read for comprehension.

5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09

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Jan 7, 2010, 9:08:11 PM1/7/10
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Accepting responsibility isn't the same as fucking up. But you're a
Republican--you wouldn't understand that.

--
"Normandy beachhead participants did not know or guess that most of them
would die" - David Heil

Stevie Nichts

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Jan 7, 2010, 10:21:55 PM1/7/10
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On Jan 7, 9:08 pm, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>

wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:01:47 -0800, Stevie Nichts wrote:
> > On Jan 6, 10:48 am, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:04:04 -0800, Stevie Nichts wrote:
>
> >> > Obama fucked up. Accept it -- he has -- and move on. And, just maybe,
> >> > join a discussion on how to improve national security.
>
> >> Fucked up in what way?  You don't even know what you're arguing for any
> >> more!
>
> > “I am less interested in passing out blame than I am in learning from
> > and correcting these mistakes to make us safer. For ultimately, the buck
> > stops with me. … When the system fails, it is my responsibility.”
>
> > Let's see if you've yet learned how to read for comprehension.
>
> Accepting responsibility isn't the same as fucking up.  

So you *still* can't read, because according to The One,
it is. Accept it and move on.

5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09

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Jan 7, 2010, 11:26:34 PM1/7/10
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Still putting words in people's mouths when you can't simple take
inconvenient bits out of what they actually said, I see. Sad.

Rick Saunders

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Jan 8, 2010, 7:08:53 PM1/8/10
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On Jan 7, 11:26 pm, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>

wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:21:55 -0800, Stevie Nichts wrote:
> > On Jan 7, 9:08 pm, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:01:47 -0800, Stevie Nichts wrote:
> >> > On Jan 6, 10:48 am, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:04:04 -0800, Stevie Nichts wrote:
>
> >> >> > Obama fucked up. Accept it -- he has -- and move on. And, just
> >> >> > maybe, join a discussion on how to improve national security.
>
> >> >> Fucked up in what way?  You don't even know what you're arguing for
> >> >> any more!
>
> >> > “I am less interested in passing out blame than I am in learning from
> >> > and correcting these mistakes to make us safer. For ultimately, the
> >> > buck stops with me. … When the system fails, it is my
> >> > responsibility.”
>
> >> > Let's see if you've yet learned how to read for comprehension.
>
> >> Accepting responsibility isn't the same as fucking up.
>
> > So you *still* can't read, because according to The One, it is. Accept
> > it and move on.
>
> Still putting words in people's mouths when you can't simple take
> inconvenient bits out of what they actually said, I see.  

Say, zeppo, notice how none of your libbie komrades
are taking your side and defending Obama? What's that
tell you, huh?

5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09

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Jan 8, 2010, 7:27:59 PM1/8/10
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On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 16:08:53 -0800 (PST), Rick Saunders
<retr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jan 7, 11:26�ソスpm, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>


>wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:21:55 -0800, Stevie Nichts wrote:
>> > On Jan 7, 9:08�ソスpm, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:01:47 -0800, Stevie Nichts wrote:

>> >> > On Jan 6, 10:48�ソスam, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>


>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:04:04 -0800, Stevie Nichts wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > Obama fucked up. Accept it -- he has -- and move on. And, just
>> >> >> > maybe, join a discussion on how to improve national security.
>>

>> >> >> Fucked up in what way? �ソスYou don't even know what you're arguing for
>> >> >> any more!
>>
>> >> > �ソスI am less interested in passing out blame than I am in learning from


>> >> > and correcting these mistakes to make us safer. For ultimately, the

>> >> > buck stops with me. �ソス When the system fails, it is my
>> >> > responsibility.�ソス


>>
>> >> > Let's see if you've yet learned how to read for comprehension.
>>
>> >> Accepting responsibility isn't the same as fucking up.
>>
>> > So you *still* can't read, because according to The One, it is. Accept
>> > it and move on.
>>
>> Still putting words in people's mouths when you can't simple take

>> inconvenient bits out of what they actually said, I see. �ソス


>
>Say, zeppo, notice how none of your libbie komrades
>are taking your side and defending Obama? What's that
>tell you, huh?

That they know I can handle you all on my own and don't need their
help?

Rick Saunders

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Jan 8, 2010, 8:17:00 PM1/8/10
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On Jan 8, 4:27 pm, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09"

<ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 16:08:53 -0800 (PST), Rick Saunders
>
>
>
> <retro_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 7, 11:26 pm, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>

> >wrote:
> >> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:21:55 -0800, Stevie Nichts wrote:
> >> > On Jan 7, 9:08 pm, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:01:47 -0800, Stevie Nichts wrote:
> >> >> > On Jan 6, 10:48 am, "5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>

> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:04:04 -0800, Stevie Nichts wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > Obama fucked up. Accept it -- he has -- and move on. And, just
> >> >> >> > maybe, join a discussion on how to improve national security.
>
> >> >> >> Fucked up in what way?  You don't even know what you're arguing for
> >> >> >> any more!
>
> >> >> > “I am less interested in passing out blame than I am in learning from

> >> >> > and correcting these mistakes to make us safer. For ultimately, the
> >> >> > buck stops with me. … When the system fails, it is my
> >> >> > responsibility.”

>
> >> >> > Let's see if you've yet learned how to read for comprehension.
>
> >> >> Accepting responsibility isn't the same as fucking up.
>
> >> > So you *still* can't read, because according to The One, it is. Accept
> >> > it and move on.
>
> >> Still putting words in people's mouths when you can't simple take
> >> inconvenient bits out of what they actually said, I see.  
>
> >Say, zeppo, notice how none of your libbie komrades
> >are taking your side and defending Obama? What's that
> >tell you, huh?
>
> That they know I can handle you all on my own and don't need their
> help?

ROFL! Hey, if self-delusion gets you through the day,
knock yerself out. No, really.

(On a side note -- how's your winter? Here in the midwest
it is effing cold and, well, colder. We're supposed to be
used to it, but geez!)

5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09

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Jan 8, 2010, 8:39:22 PM1/8/10
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That I can handle you with one hand tied behind my back, and so they can
do other things?

5321 Dead, 454 since 1/20/09

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Jan 8, 2010, 9:15:13 PM1/8/10
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Here, it's well above freezing, and there is no snow. Since it's usually
below freezing right now, and we usually have about three feet of snow on
the ground, Drudge Report isn't mentioning us. Yesterday it was 54, and
I went shopping in T-shirt and short pants.

I lived in Ontario, and thanks to the internet, often listen to the local
outlet of the CBC Radio One. Yesterday, it was minus twenty --
Fahrenheit -- with blowing and drifting snow.

I can't say I miss that very much.

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