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Raymond Karczewski
Jun 16, 2013, 11:39:17 AM6/16/13
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The Christ and the Satanists: a Dialogue.
Arthur Cristian wrote:
Nigel Beckwith wrote:
Raymond Karczewski wrote:
rk: Note: This thread is being shared with all not to insult but to
inform. My use of the word satanist does not conform to the usual
dictionary definition as that itself is symptomatic of Satanism, i.e.
dualistic thought opposing Intellectualism.
rk: Many shall be angered and outraged by what is revealed to them in
this thread as the average civilized man/womany is ignorant and
unaware of how they are being manipulated via remote Satanic Mind
Control.
rk: It is not my purpose to Recondition anyone, to use mind control
techniques to reward or punish anyone concerning their mind sets, but
just to point out that these mindsets exist in them and destroy the
soul while they enhance the intellect.
rk: All Civilized men and women are subject to mind control, ALL.
They are conditioned to worship the Intellect, hence they worship the
"god" of Intellect, Satan. As such they are Satanists, even though
they shroud their comment either with vitriol or charm.
rk: You will see it all in this thread. Pay attention, for this kind
of dialogue between a Christ and a Satanists has never been made
public in the History of Mankind.
rk: I am speaking to you who read this, for until now you have been
unaware of this fact and have conducted your lives along the lines of
your outer directed Satanic Conditioning. Shall we Begin?
nb: > It may not be popular, but the truth is, we have to work hard
together with Ego under control if we are to make a difference in this
world. That is the only way.
rk: It is impossible to change anyone else but yourselves. Therefore
it is impossible to change the world ruled by thought. That is the
satanic trap which binds men's souls. It is that enslavement to
satanic thought which is demonstrated when men argue with one another
about the validity of their images and illusions, ghostly spectres
which captivate their conditioned ego driven intellect. One must step
out of such satanic ruled consciousness to "be in this world but not
of it." Speak only Truth and you shall be seen as an enemy of the
Civilized World.
rk: Arthur, earlier I said "I have just TOLD YOU THE TRUTH. IT IS
INARGUABLE, SO YOU CAN TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. Don't waste my time with
your Face-saving tactics and I will not waste yours. What can be
clearer than that!
ac: > Again, slander, slander, slander...... All you are doing here
Raymond is attempting to kidnap our characters so that you can
impersonate them, acting as an impostor of our intentions claiming
they are ours when in fact they are yours, you made them all...See
More
rk: Arthur I make no slander. I merely mirror your own words back to
you and YOU ARE FREAKING OUT. I do not need to impersonate you. I
stand alone in Truth. It is true that you are NOT ON MY RADAR. Thats
what frosts you! Be a good boy and tend to your garden. You are out of
your league.
ac: > The mirror you CLAIM are of your thoughts set into motion by
you Raymond. ONLY YOU ARE DOING THIS. To prove this, bring forward the
first party Fiona & Arthur Cristian to back your claims. Lets hear it
from the tongues of Arthur & Fiona Cristian and NOT from Raymond
Karczewski's mirror. Can you do this Raymond?
rk: I make no claim on you, I allow your words to speak for
themselves. Your Cockamamie theory does not hold water anywhere but in
your own intellect and the undiscriminating intellect of millions of
sheeple looking for a leader. As you are already aware, ...See More
ac: > More claims claims claims Raymond. You are keen on creating a
controversy where there isn't one.
nb: > See Raymond, you say the same to Arthur Cristian. That his
ideas to try to raise his consciousness and raise that of all around
him if he can, is also wrong? Please tell me exactly..once we have
changed ourselves...what happens then..just that please Ray.
nb: > We are always influencing each other Raymond. It happens all
the time. The reason the Satanic world works like clockwork..for them
is because they DO work together. Just what do you expect to happen?
When we change ourselves do we change our surroundings? I mean be
clear and say how you expect to get out of this trap? Looking after No
1? Or trying to raise your own consciousness, and then that of those
who have ears to hear?
nb: > but then..look what happens when we focus on looking after our
own salvation....we become egocentric..sociopathic..we lose something
very very fundamental.....so then looking after ones own salvation
seems suddenly ..redundant!!
nb: > Raymond, sadly mate, your stance is arrogant and the claims of
superiority are gossamer thin. You show no respect for your fellow
travellor /communicator and simply ignore the value or the intention
within a passage to provide "your interpretation" mak...See More
nb: > I suggest Raymond you read the book "Dispelling Wetiko" by Paul
Levy. In these words there is elements of what we wrestle. It seems
that when we rely on the "inner guide" alone, we can get into a trap.
That trap is very well known and is dangerous and ...See More
Raymond Karczewski Curse of the Satanic World
Nigel Beckwith wrote:
Raymond Karczewski wrote:
nb: "It may not be popular, but the truth is, we have to work hard
together with Ego under control if we are to make a difference in this
world. That is the only way."
rk: < It is impossible to change anyone else but yourselves. Therefore
it is impossible to change the world ruled by thought. That is the
satanic trap which binds men's souls. It is that enslavement to
satanic thought which is demonstrated when men argue with one another
about the validity of their images and illusions, ghostly spectres
which captivate their conditioned ego driven intellects. One must step
out of such satanic ruled consciousness to "be in this world but not
of it." Speak only Truth and you shall be seen as an enemy of the
Civilized World.
nb: > We are always influencing each other Raymond. It happens all the
time. The reason the Satanic world works like clockwork..for them is
because they DO work together. Just what do you expect to happen? When
we change ourselves do we change our surroundings? I mean be clear and
say how you expect to get out of this trap? Looking after No 1? Or
trying to raise your own consciousness, and then that of those who
have ears to hear?
rk: Nigel, your focus is intellectual therefore limited in scope. A
hundred people working together based on an ideal, is not any
different from One whose life is lived on an ideal. Ideals are satanic
illusions. All Ideas are fantasies, be they positive or negative. They
are dualistic mechanisms which make for division, conflict, violence,
power. It is responsible for Hell on Earth --NO EXCEPTIONS.
rk: The release from such hell comes only with the resurrection of the
Spirit of Divine Awareness, Truth, once the intellect is silenced. Why
continue with all this nonsense of arguing over every "jot and
tittle." when all you have to do is mirror the dualistic lie with
nondualistic Truth.
rk: Here is how you change yourself and therefore your world. From
this moment forward until the moment of your death, NEVER TELL ANOTHER
LIE. Not a Black lie, nor a White lie. Nor a lie of ommission. Nor do
you support any lie. You BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT LIES. Do that, and
you are FREE, BEYOND THE INFLUENCE OF SATANIC THOUGHT.
rk: When the lie is not, the illusion is not -- TRUTH IS. I assure
you, that YOU WILL RAISE HELL WITH THE WORLD AROUND YOU. Have you not
seen that clearly demonstrated in damned near, just about all of my
relationships with others on the Internet? Why is that? We use the
same language, don't we, the same words, yet my energy disturbs their
status quo of belief padded cubbyhole in hell, does it not?
rk: You see, Nigel, and all others reading this, the Lie, is the basis
of the Civilized world, ruled by a Satanic thought-based Intellect.
rk: I acknowledge that is is a given that we must use Intellect to
solve technical problems and to communicate through language with
other intellects, but it is only the Christ, the simple man/woman of
Truth who is master of his/her own Intellect, while all others remain
slaves to their satanic, dualistic, opposing, outer
directed/conditioned intellects -- the computer-like instrument which
makes up their CULTURAL view of the world.
rk: You've heard the adage, "You can't make a silk purse out of a sows
ear." Nor can you or anyone else make a Master out of a Slave.
Such transition comes only when the lie is seen for what it is and
falls away only to reveal what has been previously hidden from view by
all the cultural clutter -- TRUTH.
rk: Truth is unassailable, invulnerable to harm from attacks by
Illusion. It just pisses pompous satanists off when their illusions
are reflected back to them by the simple "Mirror of Truth". That is
the only change that can come about in a relationship between the mass
mind of satanic illusion and a simple man in resonance with holistic
Truth.
rk: Many view me as a pompous "knowitall" In their conditioned,
complexity, but ignorant-ridden state of dualistic confusion, they are
incapable of discerning the simple, nondualistic energy of a man of
Truth.
rk: The satanic ruled intellect must be silenced for the Resurrection
of the Divine Spirit of Truth, God to reveal itself. Truth, God is
always with you, but has allowed Satan, the "petty god of Intellect"
to seduce you away from it with promises of Illusions which are
fleeting at best when one comes to understand the eternity which is
life.
rk: Arthur Cristian, a good man, stands proudly when he demands first
party proof of Truth that cannot be proven but remains self-evident to
the spiritually sensitive, the spiritually sighted. Arthur stubbornly
remains at the intellectual level of the "Idea of Truth," a
mechanical, dead concept which he shares with lawyers, other
wordmeisters, and manipulators of such images which can and is indeed,
subject to proof. Truth is well beyond the limited scope of the
Satanic Intellect and therefore is immune from the slings and arrows
of Illusion.
rk: That is what is meant when a Christ, a Simple Man/Woman of Truth
states that he/she "are in this world, but not of it."
rk: Nigel, I hope this clarifies a few things for you.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
nb: "It may not be popular, but the truth is, we have to work hard
together with Ego under control if we are to make a difference in this
world. That is the only way."
rk: < It is impossible to change anyone else but yourselves. Therefore
it is impossible to change the world ruled by thought. That is the
satanic trap which binds men's souls. It is that enslavement to
satanic thought which is demonstrated when men argue with one another
about the validity of their images and illusions, ghostly spectres
which captivate their conditioned ego driven intellects. One must step
out of such satanic ruled consciousness to "be in this world but not
of it." Speak only Truth and you shall be seen as an enemy of the
Civilized World.
nb: > We are always influencing each other Raymond. It happens all the
time. The reason the Satanic world works like clockwork..for them is
because they DO work together. Just what do you expect to happen? When
we change ourselves do we change our surroundings? I mean be clear and
say how you expect to get out of this trap? Looking after No 1? Or
trying to raise your own consciousness, and then that of those who
have ears to hear?
rk: Nigel, your focus is intellectual therefore limited in scope. A
hundred people working together based on an ideal, is not any
different from One whose life is lived on an ideal. Ideals are satanic
illusions. All Ideas are fantasies, be they positive or negative. They
are dualistic mechanisms which make for division, conflict, violence,
power. It is responsible for Hell on Earth --NO EXCEPTIONS.
rk: The release from such hell comes only with the resurrection of the
Spirit of Divine Awareness, Truth, once the intellect is silenced. Why
continue with all this nonsense of arguing over every "jot and
tittle." when all you have to do is mirror the dualistic lie with
nondualistic Truth.
rk: Here is how you change yourself and therefore your world. From
this moment forward until the moment of your death, NEVER TELL ANOTHER
LIE. Not a Black lie, nor a White lie. Nor a lie of ommission. Nor do
you support any lie. You BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT LIES. Do that, and
you are FREE, BEYOND THE INFLUENCE OF SATANIC THOUGHT.
rk: When the lie is not, the illusion is not -- TRUTH IS. I assure
you, that YOU WILL RAISE HELL WITH THE WORLD AROUND YOU. Have you not
seen that clearly demonstrated in damned near, just about all of my
relationships with others on the Internet? Why is that? We use the
same language, don't we, the same words, yet my energy disturbs their
status quo of belief padded cubbyhole in hell, does it not?
rk: You see, Nigel, and all others reading this, the Lie, is the basis
of the Civilized world, ruled by a Satanic thought-based Intellect.
rk: I acknowledge that is is a given that we must use Intellect to
solve technical problems and to communicate through language with
other intellects, but it is only the Christ, the simple man/woman of
Truth who is master of his/her own Intellect, while all others remain
slaves to their satanic, dualistic, opposing, outer
directed/conditioned intellects -- the computer-like instrument which
makes up their CULTURAL view of the world.
rk: You've heard the adage, "You can't make a silk purse out of a sows
ear." Nor can you or anyone else make a Master out of a Slave.
Such transition comes only when the lie is seen for what it is and
falls away only to reveal what has been previously hidden from view by
all the cultural clutter -- TRUTH.
rk: Truth is unassailable, invulnerable to harm from attacks by
Illusion. It just pisses pompous satanists off when their illusions
are reflected back to them by the simple "Mirror of Truth". That is
the only change that can come about in a relationship between the mass
mind of satanic illusion and a simple man in resonance with holistic
Truth.
rk: Many view me as a pompous "knowitall" In their conditioned,
complexity, but ignorant-ridden state of dualistic confusion, they are
incapable of discerning the simple, nondualistic energy of a man of
Truth.
rk: The satanic ruled intellect must be silenced for the Resurrection
of the Divine Spirit of Truth, God to reveal itself. Truth, God is
always with you, but has allowed Satan, the "petty god of Intellect"
to seduce you away from it with promises of Illusions which are
fleeting at best when one comes to understand the eternity which is
life.
rk: Arthur Cristian, a good man, stands proudly when he demands first
party proof of Truth that cannot be proven but remains self-evident to
the spiritually sensitive, the spiritually sighted. Arthur stubbornly
remains at the intellectual level of the "Idea of Truth," a
mechanical, dead concept which he shares with lawyers, other
wordmeisters, and manipulators of such images which can and is indeed,
subject to proof. Truth is well beyond the limited scope of the
Satanic Intellect and therefore is immune from the slings and arrows
of Illusion.
rk: That is what is meant when a Christ, a Simple Man/Woman of Truth
states that he/she "are in this world, but not of it."
rk: Nigel, I hope this clarifies a few things for you.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
ac: > See, you are lying again Raymond about where we are coming
from and heading, in fact it is slander. You obviously don't use your
senses when you read our writings.
Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414
rk: Arthur you are claiming that I am lying again, when you do not
understand what Truth is. You are focused on the IDEA OF TRUTH, which
is a satanic illusion, and therefore you can only argue and debate
when your limitations of thought are exposed. I have just TOLD YOU THE
TRUTH. IT IS INARGUABLE, SO YOU CAN TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. Don't waste
my time with your Face-saving tactics and I will not waste yours. What
can be clearer than that!
rk: Arthur I make no slander. I merely mirror your own words back to
you and YOU ARE FREAKING OUT. I do not need to impersonate you. I
stand alone in Truth. It is true that you are NOT ON MY RADAR. Thats
what frosts you! Be a good boy and tend to your garden. You are out of
your league. Raymond Karczewski
ac: > Again, slander, slander, slander...... All you are doing here
Raymond is attempting to kidnap our characters so that you can
impersonate them, acting as an impostor of our intentions claiming
they are ours when in fact they are yours, you made them all up. We
are not even on your radar Raymond. None of what you have written are
our thoughts Raymond and therefore are not being set into motion by
us. Only you are doing this. This is why we say you are lying, lying,
lying and you continuer to do so. This is slander.
Arthur Cristian The mirror you CLAIM are of your thoughts set into
motion by you Raymond. ONLY YOU ARE DOING THIS. To prove this, bring
forward the first party Fiona & Arthur Cristian to back your claims.
Lets hear it from the tongues of Arthur & Fiona Cristian and NOT from
Raymond Karczewski's mirror. Can you do this Raymond?
rk: I make no claim on you, I allow your words to speak for
themselves. Your Cockamamie theory does not hold water anywhere but in
your own intellect and the undiscriminating intellect of millions of
sheeple looking for a leader. As you are already aware, I do not
engage in futile debate over another's beliefs. I merely advise people
to take it or leave it. An impossibility for those who do not access
truth and merely dabble with their own ideas of it. Raymond Karczewski
ac: More claims claims claims Raymond. You are keen on creating a
controversy where there isn't one.
nb: > Raymond, sadly mate, your stance is arrogant and the claims of
superiority are gossamer thin. You show no respect for your fellow
travellor /communicator and simply ignore the value or the intention
within a passage to provide "your interpretation" mak...See More
nb: > I suggest Raymond you read the book "Dispelling Wetiko" by
Paul Levy. In these words there is elements of what we wrestle. It
seems that when we rely on the "inner guide" alone, we can get into a
trap. That trap is very well known and is dangerous and often needs
the reflection of similar travellors to help us get out....its the GOD
trap..the GURU trap...It is all ego based and when we are there..even
though it may seem like a development...its absolutely not..its the
trap of all traps, and keeps so many lost. I bet you wont read the
book and I bet you will dismiss my words. I am not trying to win...are
you? If we try to win and "beat each other..with our superior
SPIRITUALITY...we are losing"!
nb: > Nigel Beckwith There can be nothing but arrogance in your
statements. How dare you claim that only your expressions are from the
purest source of wisdom..but no one elses? I mean even that purity had
to come through the intellect to be put into words...so what are you
claiming?
rk: Nigel, what is being demonstrated in this thread is the
incapacity of accessing truth through thought. Truth is not a goal. It
is infinite and boundless, present in every moment but blocked by the
Intellect. That is one's Fall from Grace. The idea of Truth is a goal.
Both you and Arthur utilize the process of intellectualism to talk
about the ideas you hold about the goal of the "idea of Truth", rather
than shutting off the intellectual process and merely merging with it.
I am not arrogant in the least. I merely stand in Truth and not the
limited "idea of truth", and therefore am not accessible by other
intellects, either yours or Arthurs. I have long stated that Truth
cannot be accessed by intellectual thought, only the Idea of Truth
Can. This thread demonstrates that. That is the block that prevent
you, Arthur and Millions of others from resonating with Truth while
you argue the merits of your own Satanic conditioned "ideas of Truth".
The simple fact is that we are coming from vastly different realms of
consciousness and your intellects stand in the way is the problem and
no conclusion on your part will make a difference until the intellect
stops and Insight (Direct Perception of Truth) appears.
nb: > I can tell that Arthur and Fiona and some others access wisdom
through the inner process, as I do...we may use words then that don't
marry, but people such as us can usually work through it by showing
mutual respect and love. So why are you struggling Raymond? Don't you
feel you have my respect and love? Or Arthur and Fiona's respect and
love? Let's be clear on this?!
nb: > If we are on the same path, we will not feel the need to be
more "right" or more in tune. These are often from dualistic places
that create such delusions. But on the other hand we have to be wary
not to fall in traps. I have to be humble, as I may be wrong....
rk: Nigel, the process speaks for itself. I am not struggling. It
would appear that you and Arthur are. Can we at least be clear on
that. Cut the humility stuff. Thats just satanic window dressing.
Truth has no need to defend itself.
nb: > Raymond you go round and round in circles, denying another's
truth so that you can impose yours..and in the end tell us nothing
more than we already knew. Just being critical with no improved
outcome or suggestion. How does that help?
nb: > Has your being "in the know" with the "highest source of
wisdom" created bliss for you? Or are you in a self perpetuated
delusion? How can you know?
rk: The issue can be resolved very simply if you're up for it. Answer
the question in the last two thousand years and prior thereto, how
many Christs have been known, and how many Intellectuals. You and
Arthur play in the sandbox of Intellectualism while you play with your
own conditioned "Ideas of Truth."
Nigel Beckwith Well you are wrong..very wrong in my view.
nb: > Nigel Beckwith So how does your way look? Is it just in your
head Ray? Or are you truly creating a heaven on earth? Setting an
example in the here and now that we can follow??!! I think it is time
to start putting your cards on the table Ray.
about an hour ago · Like
nb: > I do not see you as being any more of a Christ than me or
Arthur. Perhaps I am too much into intellectualism to see it Ray. To
me any being who is conscious (and remember consciousness has aspects
to it that some call source and other aspects that are removed from
source but trying to work their way back...that you call
intellectualism...but when compared Jesus suggested they were the
elements of "of this world" and "Not of this world" and that we must
try to combine the two whilst we are in this world....) knows that
only we can create our heaven...or remain in our Hell. I am not sure
so far that your vision of Heaven is clear. If so you would have spelt
it out...instead you hide behind this "oh well you are just
intellectualising". Heck this game is easy..innit?
rk: Nigel you say, "So how does your way look? Is it just in your
head Ray? Or are you truly creating a heaven on earth? Setting an
example in the here and now that we can follow??!! I think it is time
to start putting your cards on the table Ray." Are you not looking for
a leader? Are you not lost? Are you not limited in your grasp of
Truth? I am Truth. I resonate in Truth, I speak Truth, yet you DO NOT
SEE. You are spiritually blind, so you must revert to thinking. So you
ask me to Recondition you, to persuade you, to lead you. All that is
Satanic, and does not lead to the Truth that you profess to seek.
Truth is always shocking to illusion. I suggest you pay attention to
your own inner teacher who is screaming at you to LOOK at what you are
doing. That teacher is the Christ within you disrupting you own
consciousness, pointing out the false ideas that you hold about Truth.
I am not upsetting you in the least for if I speak to one, I speak to
all.
nb: > What a crock.
nb: > I dont ask you to lead me at all. I ask you to back up your
claims. And you can't so who is really lost? Look again Ray..get a
good clear mirror mate.
rk: Nigel, so why continue in this farce. Go your way and see if you
have real peace and not peace by agreement.
nb: > Nigel Beckwith You don't have any peace Raymond.
nb: > Nigel Beckwith And you don't seem to have any answers either,
nb: > Nigel Beckwith Why the Hell do you think you are here in this
plane Ray?
nb: > "If one's words are no better than silence, one should keep
silent [1972 pilot episode, Kung Fu]"
nb: > Nigel Beckwith Ok Ray....you win...I will do as you
say....nothing. Aaaah Bliss. I see now.
nb: > (there is just so little wisdom here Ray..and you cannot see
it..sorry..have fun).
rk: Nigel says "You don't have any peace Raymond" And you don't seem
to have any answers either" "Why the Hell do you think you are here in
this plane Ray?" rk: Nigel, your first comment is nothing more than
"psychological projection." Your second question is indicative of
INtellectualism for Truth has not answers, IT SIMPLY IS. Your third
statement is rather obvious is it not? To reveal to the spiritual
blind the resonance of Truth and not merely stroking each other to
persuade them to a particular "Idea of Truth." It is a rather harsh
lesson for those who are prideful in their spiritual ignorance to
learn. Surely you must see why this world of man's thought has not
changed since Man's Fall from Grace?
nb: > Aye and people like you ..in their own cave..wrapped up in
their own pride and belief they "have the answers (that cannot be
expressed)...also explain why it remains in the doldrums.
rk: Nigel, you have made your choice. But why are you and others so
addicted to my writing? You might want to ask that of your Kung Fu
Teacher.
nb: > You really have nothing to say anymore Ray. I suggest you take
the advice of the Kung Fu master.
nb: > No this is my page and I am sharing ideas with people, and
showing them the folly of your claims.
nb: > It is important as your claims may not help them
rk: My suggestion is stop thinking and start looking for truth. One
is based in idle talk and the other in direct action. But then, that
is much too simple for complexity oriented intellects to grasp.
nb: > We are accessing the better realms Ray. Its odd that you cannot
see that. Even you have time to come here and write your views. The
thing is people are edging their way. Even the sages could not know it
all, but they imparted wisdom about what it was t...See More
nb: > You seem to be missing a vital point. You seem to be suggesting
just being in the perpetual altered state. Whereas some of us are
recognising the choice that we came here to explore
consciousness...and bloody well explore it we will. You choose your
way.
rk: Nigel, I suggest you be very careful with your words. You shall
be stuck with them for eternity.
nb: > I do and say what I feel is right..you do it your way Ray.
nb: > Nigel Beckwith If only you could see.
rk: Nigel, your approach is the Way of the World playing with the
idea of Truth. You can see where such activity has brought the world.
Hell, isn't it?
nb: > Yes Ray (speaking to a brick wall)...ok have it your own way.
Have a great day.
rk: Nigel, you have demonstrated what all intellectuals eventually
do. They give up on Truth to return to the comfort of their own ideas
of Truth while they lick their wounds. Its been a painful lesson but a
spiritual lesson that is much needed by prideful spiritual aspirants.
Raymond Karczewski
nb: > Yawn
nb: > Yes ray...you are right. Take care.
rk: Nigel, Arthur and all others. If my words of Truth are not
welcome to your ears, why not just be decisive and UNFRIEND ME and
return to your cocoon. I assure you as long as your comments appear on
my page, if there is a spiritual lesson to be learned there, I shall
expose it.
nb: > Nigel Beckwith We can never get away from wisdom.
nb: > Nigel Beckwith I am not going to unfriend you. Just because I
feel you are not seeing sense.
nb: > Maybe one day you will learn something from us....maybe.
rk: There you have it folks. I stand on what has been said above.
Many of you are not even aware of the deep psychological and spiritual
ramifications of the above dialogue. In this thread the Satanic
dialectic of the Intellect has been exposed for what it is. One can
see despite the charm and positive imaged responses, they have all led
to division, conflict and opposition.
rk: If you wonder why the worlds is the Hell that it is. LOOK NO
FURTHER, FOR YOU HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED TO WAY OF LIFE YOU HAVE BEEN
CONDITIONED TO LIVE. Hell, isn't it?
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Arthur Cristian wrote:
Nigel Beckwith wrote:
Raymond Karczewski wrote:
rk: Note: This thread is being shared with all not to insult but to
inform. My use of the word satanist does not conform to the usual
dictionary definition as that itself is symptomatic of Satanism, i.e.
dualistic thought opposing Intellectualism.
rk: Many shall be angered and outraged by what is revealed to them in
this thread as the average civilized man/womany is ignorant and
unaware of how they are being manipulated via remote Satanic Mind
Control.
rk: It is not my purpose to Recondition anyone, to use mind control
techniques to reward or punish anyone concerning their mind sets, but
just to point out that these mindsets exist in them and destroy the
soul while they enhance the intellect.
rk: All Civilized men and women are subject to mind control, ALL.
They are conditioned to worship the Intellect, hence they worship the
"god" of Intellect, Satan. As such they are Satanists, even though
they shroud their comment either with vitriol or charm.
rk: You will see it all in this thread. Pay attention, for this kind
of dialogue between a Christ and a Satanists has never been made
public in the History of Mankind.
rk: I am speaking to you who read this, for until now you have been
unaware of this fact and have conducted your lives along the lines of
your outer directed Satanic Conditioning. Shall we Begin?
nb: > It may not be popular, but the truth is, we have to work hard
together with Ego under control if we are to make a difference in this
world. That is the only way.
rk: It is impossible to change anyone else but yourselves. Therefore
it is impossible to change the world ruled by thought. That is the
satanic trap which binds men's souls. It is that enslavement to
satanic thought which is demonstrated when men argue with one another
about the validity of their images and illusions, ghostly spectres
which captivate their conditioned ego driven intellect. One must step
out of such satanic ruled consciousness to "be in this world but not
of it." Speak only Truth and you shall be seen as an enemy of the
Civilized World.
rk: Arthur, earlier I said "I have just TOLD YOU THE TRUTH. IT IS
INARGUABLE, SO YOU CAN TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. Don't waste my time with
your Face-saving tactics and I will not waste yours. What can be
clearer than that!
ac: > Again, slander, slander, slander...... All you are doing here
Raymond is attempting to kidnap our characters so that you can
impersonate them, acting as an impostor of our intentions claiming
they are ours when in fact they are yours, you made them all...See
More
rk: Arthur I make no slander. I merely mirror your own words back to
you and YOU ARE FREAKING OUT. I do not need to impersonate you. I
stand alone in Truth. It is true that you are NOT ON MY RADAR. Thats
what frosts you! Be a good boy and tend to your garden. You are out of
your league.
ac: > The mirror you CLAIM are of your thoughts set into motion by
you Raymond. ONLY YOU ARE DOING THIS. To prove this, bring forward the
first party Fiona & Arthur Cristian to back your claims. Lets hear it
from the tongues of Arthur & Fiona Cristian and NOT from Raymond
Karczewski's mirror. Can you do this Raymond?
rk: I make no claim on you, I allow your words to speak for
themselves. Your Cockamamie theory does not hold water anywhere but in
your own intellect and the undiscriminating intellect of millions of
sheeple looking for a leader. As you are already aware, ...See More
ac: > More claims claims claims Raymond. You are keen on creating a
controversy where there isn't one.
nb: > See Raymond, you say the same to Arthur Cristian. That his
ideas to try to raise his consciousness and raise that of all around
him if he can, is also wrong? Please tell me exactly..once we have
changed ourselves...what happens then..just that please Ray.
nb: > We are always influencing each other Raymond. It happens all
the time. The reason the Satanic world works like clockwork..for them
is because they DO work together. Just what do you expect to happen?
When we change ourselves do we change our surroundings? I mean be
clear and say how you expect to get out of this trap? Looking after No
1? Or trying to raise your own consciousness, and then that of those
who have ears to hear?
nb: > but then..look what happens when we focus on looking after our
own salvation....we become egocentric..sociopathic..we lose something
very very fundamental.....so then looking after ones own salvation
seems suddenly ..redundant!!
nb: > Raymond, sadly mate, your stance is arrogant and the claims of
superiority are gossamer thin. You show no respect for your fellow
travellor /communicator and simply ignore the value or the intention
within a passage to provide "your interpretation" mak...See More
nb: > I suggest Raymond you read the book "Dispelling Wetiko" by Paul
Levy. In these words there is elements of what we wrestle. It seems
that when we rely on the "inner guide" alone, we can get into a trap.
That trap is very well known and is dangerous and ...See More
Raymond Karczewski Curse of the Satanic World
Nigel Beckwith wrote:
Raymond Karczewski wrote:
nb: "It may not be popular, but the truth is, we have to work hard
together with Ego under control if we are to make a difference in this
world. That is the only way."
rk: < It is impossible to change anyone else but yourselves. Therefore
it is impossible to change the world ruled by thought. That is the
satanic trap which binds men's souls. It is that enslavement to
satanic thought which is demonstrated when men argue with one another
about the validity of their images and illusions, ghostly spectres
which captivate their conditioned ego driven intellects. One must step
out of such satanic ruled consciousness to "be in this world but not
of it." Speak only Truth and you shall be seen as an enemy of the
Civilized World.
nb: > We are always influencing each other Raymond. It happens all the
time. The reason the Satanic world works like clockwork..for them is
because they DO work together. Just what do you expect to happen? When
we change ourselves do we change our surroundings? I mean be clear and
say how you expect to get out of this trap? Looking after No 1? Or
trying to raise your own consciousness, and then that of those who
have ears to hear?
rk: Nigel, your focus is intellectual therefore limited in scope. A
hundred people working together based on an ideal, is not any
different from One whose life is lived on an ideal. Ideals are satanic
illusions. All Ideas are fantasies, be they positive or negative. They
are dualistic mechanisms which make for division, conflict, violence,
power. It is responsible for Hell on Earth --NO EXCEPTIONS.
rk: The release from such hell comes only with the resurrection of the
Spirit of Divine Awareness, Truth, once the intellect is silenced. Why
continue with all this nonsense of arguing over every "jot and
tittle." when all you have to do is mirror the dualistic lie with
nondualistic Truth.
rk: Here is how you change yourself and therefore your world. From
this moment forward until the moment of your death, NEVER TELL ANOTHER
LIE. Not a Black lie, nor a White lie. Nor a lie of ommission. Nor do
you support any lie. You BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT LIES. Do that, and
you are FREE, BEYOND THE INFLUENCE OF SATANIC THOUGHT.
rk: When the lie is not, the illusion is not -- TRUTH IS. I assure
you, that YOU WILL RAISE HELL WITH THE WORLD AROUND YOU. Have you not
seen that clearly demonstrated in damned near, just about all of my
relationships with others on the Internet? Why is that? We use the
same language, don't we, the same words, yet my energy disturbs their
status quo of belief padded cubbyhole in hell, does it not?
rk: You see, Nigel, and all others reading this, the Lie, is the basis
of the Civilized world, ruled by a Satanic thought-based Intellect.
rk: I acknowledge that is is a given that we must use Intellect to
solve technical problems and to communicate through language with
other intellects, but it is only the Christ, the simple man/woman of
Truth who is master of his/her own Intellect, while all others remain
slaves to their satanic, dualistic, opposing, outer
directed/conditioned intellects -- the computer-like instrument which
makes up their CULTURAL view of the world.
rk: You've heard the adage, "You can't make a silk purse out of a sows
ear." Nor can you or anyone else make a Master out of a Slave.
Such transition comes only when the lie is seen for what it is and
falls away only to reveal what has been previously hidden from view by
all the cultural clutter -- TRUTH.
rk: Truth is unassailable, invulnerable to harm from attacks by
Illusion. It just pisses pompous satanists off when their illusions
are reflected back to them by the simple "Mirror of Truth". That is
the only change that can come about in a relationship between the mass
mind of satanic illusion and a simple man in resonance with holistic
Truth.
rk: Many view me as a pompous "knowitall" In their conditioned,
complexity, but ignorant-ridden state of dualistic confusion, they are
incapable of discerning the simple, nondualistic energy of a man of
Truth.
rk: The satanic ruled intellect must be silenced for the Resurrection
of the Divine Spirit of Truth, God to reveal itself. Truth, God is
always with you, but has allowed Satan, the "petty god of Intellect"
to seduce you away from it with promises of Illusions which are
fleeting at best when one comes to understand the eternity which is
life.
rk: Arthur Cristian, a good man, stands proudly when he demands first
party proof of Truth that cannot be proven but remains self-evident to
the spiritually sensitive, the spiritually sighted. Arthur stubbornly
remains at the intellectual level of the "Idea of Truth," a
mechanical, dead concept which he shares with lawyers, other
wordmeisters, and manipulators of such images which can and is indeed,
subject to proof. Truth is well beyond the limited scope of the
Satanic Intellect and therefore is immune from the slings and arrows
of Illusion.
rk: That is what is meant when a Christ, a Simple Man/Woman of Truth
states that he/she "are in this world, but not of it."
rk: Nigel, I hope this clarifies a few things for you.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
nb: "It may not be popular, but the truth is, we have to work hard
together with Ego under control if we are to make a difference in this
world. That is the only way."
rk: < It is impossible to change anyone else but yourselves. Therefore
it is impossible to change the world ruled by thought. That is the
satanic trap which binds men's souls. It is that enslavement to
satanic thought which is demonstrated when men argue with one another
about the validity of their images and illusions, ghostly spectres
which captivate their conditioned ego driven intellects. One must step
out of such satanic ruled consciousness to "be in this world but not
of it." Speak only Truth and you shall be seen as an enemy of the
Civilized World.
nb: > We are always influencing each other Raymond. It happens all the
time. The reason the Satanic world works like clockwork..for them is
because they DO work together. Just what do you expect to happen? When
we change ourselves do we change our surroundings? I mean be clear and
say how you expect to get out of this trap? Looking after No 1? Or
trying to raise your own consciousness, and then that of those who
have ears to hear?
rk: Nigel, your focus is intellectual therefore limited in scope. A
hundred people working together based on an ideal, is not any
different from One whose life is lived on an ideal. Ideals are satanic
illusions. All Ideas are fantasies, be they positive or negative. They
are dualistic mechanisms which make for division, conflict, violence,
power. It is responsible for Hell on Earth --NO EXCEPTIONS.
rk: The release from such hell comes only with the resurrection of the
Spirit of Divine Awareness, Truth, once the intellect is silenced. Why
continue with all this nonsense of arguing over every "jot and
tittle." when all you have to do is mirror the dualistic lie with
nondualistic Truth.
rk: Here is how you change yourself and therefore your world. From
this moment forward until the moment of your death, NEVER TELL ANOTHER
LIE. Not a Black lie, nor a White lie. Nor a lie of ommission. Nor do
you support any lie. You BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT LIES. Do that, and
you are FREE, BEYOND THE INFLUENCE OF SATANIC THOUGHT.
rk: When the lie is not, the illusion is not -- TRUTH IS. I assure
you, that YOU WILL RAISE HELL WITH THE WORLD AROUND YOU. Have you not
seen that clearly demonstrated in damned near, just about all of my
relationships with others on the Internet? Why is that? We use the
same language, don't we, the same words, yet my energy disturbs their
status quo of belief padded cubbyhole in hell, does it not?
rk: You see, Nigel, and all others reading this, the Lie, is the basis
of the Civilized world, ruled by a Satanic thought-based Intellect.
rk: I acknowledge that is is a given that we must use Intellect to
solve technical problems and to communicate through language with
other intellects, but it is only the Christ, the simple man/woman of
Truth who is master of his/her own Intellect, while all others remain
slaves to their satanic, dualistic, opposing, outer
directed/conditioned intellects -- the computer-like instrument which
makes up their CULTURAL view of the world.
rk: You've heard the adage, "You can't make a silk purse out of a sows
ear." Nor can you or anyone else make a Master out of a Slave.
Such transition comes only when the lie is seen for what it is and
falls away only to reveal what has been previously hidden from view by
all the cultural clutter -- TRUTH.
rk: Truth is unassailable, invulnerable to harm from attacks by
Illusion. It just pisses pompous satanists off when their illusions
are reflected back to them by the simple "Mirror of Truth". That is
the only change that can come about in a relationship between the mass
mind of satanic illusion and a simple man in resonance with holistic
Truth.
rk: Many view me as a pompous "knowitall" In their conditioned,
complexity, but ignorant-ridden state of dualistic confusion, they are
incapable of discerning the simple, nondualistic energy of a man of
Truth.
rk: The satanic ruled intellect must be silenced for the Resurrection
of the Divine Spirit of Truth, God to reveal itself. Truth, God is
always with you, but has allowed Satan, the "petty god of Intellect"
to seduce you away from it with promises of Illusions which are
fleeting at best when one comes to understand the eternity which is
life.
rk: Arthur Cristian, a good man, stands proudly when he demands first
party proof of Truth that cannot be proven but remains self-evident to
the spiritually sensitive, the spiritually sighted. Arthur stubbornly
remains at the intellectual level of the "Idea of Truth," a
mechanical, dead concept which he shares with lawyers, other
wordmeisters, and manipulators of such images which can and is indeed,
subject to proof. Truth is well beyond the limited scope of the
Satanic Intellect and therefore is immune from the slings and arrows
of Illusion.
rk: That is what is meant when a Christ, a Simple Man/Woman of Truth
states that he/she "are in this world, but not of it."
rk: Nigel, I hope this clarifies a few things for you.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
ac: > See, you are lying again Raymond about where we are coming
from and heading, in fact it is slander. You obviously don't use your
senses when you read our writings.
Capturing Another MANS Uniqueness
A Facebook Debate With
Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life
And Raymond Karczewski
Starting 13th May 2013
http://loveforlife.com.au/node/8414
rk: Arthur you are claiming that I am lying again, when you do not
understand what Truth is. You are focused on the IDEA OF TRUTH, which
is a satanic illusion, and therefore you can only argue and debate
when your limitations of thought are exposed. I have just TOLD YOU THE
TRUTH. IT IS INARGUABLE, SO YOU CAN TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. Don't waste
my time with your Face-saving tactics and I will not waste yours. What
can be clearer than that!
rk: Arthur I make no slander. I merely mirror your own words back to
you and YOU ARE FREAKING OUT. I do not need to impersonate you. I
stand alone in Truth. It is true that you are NOT ON MY RADAR. Thats
what frosts you! Be a good boy and tend to your garden. You are out of
your league. Raymond Karczewski
ac: > Again, slander, slander, slander...... All you are doing here
Raymond is attempting to kidnap our characters so that you can
impersonate them, acting as an impostor of our intentions claiming
they are ours when in fact they are yours, you made them all up. We
are not even on your radar Raymond. None of what you have written are
our thoughts Raymond and therefore are not being set into motion by
us. Only you are doing this. This is why we say you are lying, lying,
lying and you continuer to do so. This is slander.
Arthur Cristian The mirror you CLAIM are of your thoughts set into
motion by you Raymond. ONLY YOU ARE DOING THIS. To prove this, bring
forward the first party Fiona & Arthur Cristian to back your claims.
Lets hear it from the tongues of Arthur & Fiona Cristian and NOT from
Raymond Karczewski's mirror. Can you do this Raymond?
rk: I make no claim on you, I allow your words to speak for
themselves. Your Cockamamie theory does not hold water anywhere but in
your own intellect and the undiscriminating intellect of millions of
sheeple looking for a leader. As you are already aware, I do not
engage in futile debate over another's beliefs. I merely advise people
to take it or leave it. An impossibility for those who do not access
truth and merely dabble with their own ideas of it. Raymond Karczewski
ac: More claims claims claims Raymond. You are keen on creating a
controversy where there isn't one.
nb: > Raymond, sadly mate, your stance is arrogant and the claims of
superiority are gossamer thin. You show no respect for your fellow
travellor /communicator and simply ignore the value or the intention
within a passage to provide "your interpretation" mak...See More
nb: > I suggest Raymond you read the book "Dispelling Wetiko" by
Paul Levy. In these words there is elements of what we wrestle. It
seems that when we rely on the "inner guide" alone, we can get into a
trap. That trap is very well known and is dangerous and often needs
the reflection of similar travellors to help us get out....its the GOD
trap..the GURU trap...It is all ego based and when we are there..even
though it may seem like a development...its absolutely not..its the
trap of all traps, and keeps so many lost. I bet you wont read the
book and I bet you will dismiss my words. I am not trying to win...are
you? If we try to win and "beat each other..with our superior
SPIRITUALITY...we are losing"!
nb: > Nigel Beckwith There can be nothing but arrogance in your
statements. How dare you claim that only your expressions are from the
purest source of wisdom..but no one elses? I mean even that purity had
to come through the intellect to be put into words...so what are you
claiming?
rk: Nigel, what is being demonstrated in this thread is the
incapacity of accessing truth through thought. Truth is not a goal. It
is infinite and boundless, present in every moment but blocked by the
Intellect. That is one's Fall from Grace. The idea of Truth is a goal.
Both you and Arthur utilize the process of intellectualism to talk
about the ideas you hold about the goal of the "idea of Truth", rather
than shutting off the intellectual process and merely merging with it.
I am not arrogant in the least. I merely stand in Truth and not the
limited "idea of truth", and therefore am not accessible by other
intellects, either yours or Arthurs. I have long stated that Truth
cannot be accessed by intellectual thought, only the Idea of Truth
Can. This thread demonstrates that. That is the block that prevent
you, Arthur and Millions of others from resonating with Truth while
you argue the merits of your own Satanic conditioned "ideas of Truth".
The simple fact is that we are coming from vastly different realms of
consciousness and your intellects stand in the way is the problem and
no conclusion on your part will make a difference until the intellect
stops and Insight (Direct Perception of Truth) appears.
nb: > I can tell that Arthur and Fiona and some others access wisdom
through the inner process, as I do...we may use words then that don't
marry, but people such as us can usually work through it by showing
mutual respect and love. So why are you struggling Raymond? Don't you
feel you have my respect and love? Or Arthur and Fiona's respect and
love? Let's be clear on this?!
nb: > If we are on the same path, we will not feel the need to be
more "right" or more in tune. These are often from dualistic places
that create such delusions. But on the other hand we have to be wary
not to fall in traps. I have to be humble, as I may be wrong....
rk: Nigel, the process speaks for itself. I am not struggling. It
would appear that you and Arthur are. Can we at least be clear on
that. Cut the humility stuff. Thats just satanic window dressing.
Truth has no need to defend itself.
nb: > Raymond you go round and round in circles, denying another's
truth so that you can impose yours..and in the end tell us nothing
more than we already knew. Just being critical with no improved
outcome or suggestion. How does that help?
nb: > Has your being "in the know" with the "highest source of
wisdom" created bliss for you? Or are you in a self perpetuated
delusion? How can you know?
rk: The issue can be resolved very simply if you're up for it. Answer
the question in the last two thousand years and prior thereto, how
many Christs have been known, and how many Intellectuals. You and
Arthur play in the sandbox of Intellectualism while you play with your
own conditioned "Ideas of Truth."
Nigel Beckwith Well you are wrong..very wrong in my view.
nb: > Nigel Beckwith So how does your way look? Is it just in your
head Ray? Or are you truly creating a heaven on earth? Setting an
example in the here and now that we can follow??!! I think it is time
to start putting your cards on the table Ray.
about an hour ago · Like
nb: > I do not see you as being any more of a Christ than me or
Arthur. Perhaps I am too much into intellectualism to see it Ray. To
me any being who is conscious (and remember consciousness has aspects
to it that some call source and other aspects that are removed from
source but trying to work their way back...that you call
intellectualism...but when compared Jesus suggested they were the
elements of "of this world" and "Not of this world" and that we must
try to combine the two whilst we are in this world....) knows that
only we can create our heaven...or remain in our Hell. I am not sure
so far that your vision of Heaven is clear. If so you would have spelt
it out...instead you hide behind this "oh well you are just
intellectualising". Heck this game is easy..innit?
rk: Nigel you say, "So how does your way look? Is it just in your
head Ray? Or are you truly creating a heaven on earth? Setting an
example in the here and now that we can follow??!! I think it is time
to start putting your cards on the table Ray." Are you not looking for
a leader? Are you not lost? Are you not limited in your grasp of
Truth? I am Truth. I resonate in Truth, I speak Truth, yet you DO NOT
SEE. You are spiritually blind, so you must revert to thinking. So you
ask me to Recondition you, to persuade you, to lead you. All that is
Satanic, and does not lead to the Truth that you profess to seek.
Truth is always shocking to illusion. I suggest you pay attention to
your own inner teacher who is screaming at you to LOOK at what you are
doing. That teacher is the Christ within you disrupting you own
consciousness, pointing out the false ideas that you hold about Truth.
I am not upsetting you in the least for if I speak to one, I speak to
all.
nb: > What a crock.
nb: > I dont ask you to lead me at all. I ask you to back up your
claims. And you can't so who is really lost? Look again Ray..get a
good clear mirror mate.
rk: Nigel, so why continue in this farce. Go your way and see if you
have real peace and not peace by agreement.
nb: > Nigel Beckwith You don't have any peace Raymond.
nb: > Nigel Beckwith And you don't seem to have any answers either,
nb: > Nigel Beckwith Why the Hell do you think you are here in this
plane Ray?
nb: > "If one's words are no better than silence, one should keep
silent [1972 pilot episode, Kung Fu]"
nb: > Nigel Beckwith Ok Ray....you win...I will do as you
say....nothing. Aaaah Bliss. I see now.
nb: > (there is just so little wisdom here Ray..and you cannot see
it..sorry..have fun).
rk: Nigel says "You don't have any peace Raymond" And you don't seem
to have any answers either" "Why the Hell do you think you are here in
this plane Ray?" rk: Nigel, your first comment is nothing more than
"psychological projection." Your second question is indicative of
INtellectualism for Truth has not answers, IT SIMPLY IS. Your third
statement is rather obvious is it not? To reveal to the spiritual
blind the resonance of Truth and not merely stroking each other to
persuade them to a particular "Idea of Truth." It is a rather harsh
lesson for those who are prideful in their spiritual ignorance to
learn. Surely you must see why this world of man's thought has not
changed since Man's Fall from Grace?
nb: > Aye and people like you ..in their own cave..wrapped up in
their own pride and belief they "have the answers (that cannot be
expressed)...also explain why it remains in the doldrums.
rk: Nigel, you have made your choice. But why are you and others so
addicted to my writing? You might want to ask that of your Kung Fu
Teacher.
nb: > You really have nothing to say anymore Ray. I suggest you take
the advice of the Kung Fu master.
nb: > No this is my page and I am sharing ideas with people, and
showing them the folly of your claims.
nb: > It is important as your claims may not help them
rk: My suggestion is stop thinking and start looking for truth. One
is based in idle talk and the other in direct action. But then, that
is much too simple for complexity oriented intellects to grasp.
nb: > We are accessing the better realms Ray. Its odd that you cannot
see that. Even you have time to come here and write your views. The
thing is people are edging their way. Even the sages could not know it
all, but they imparted wisdom about what it was t...See More
nb: > You seem to be missing a vital point. You seem to be suggesting
just being in the perpetual altered state. Whereas some of us are
recognising the choice that we came here to explore
consciousness...and bloody well explore it we will. You choose your
way.
rk: Nigel, I suggest you be very careful with your words. You shall
be stuck with them for eternity.
nb: > I do and say what I feel is right..you do it your way Ray.
nb: > Nigel Beckwith If only you could see.
rk: Nigel, your approach is the Way of the World playing with the
idea of Truth. You can see where such activity has brought the world.
Hell, isn't it?
nb: > Yes Ray (speaking to a brick wall)...ok have it your own way.
Have a great day.
rk: Nigel, you have demonstrated what all intellectuals eventually
do. They give up on Truth to return to the comfort of their own ideas
of Truth while they lick their wounds. Its been a painful lesson but a
spiritual lesson that is much needed by prideful spiritual aspirants.
Raymond Karczewski
nb: > Yawn
nb: > Yes ray...you are right. Take care.
rk: Nigel, Arthur and all others. If my words of Truth are not
welcome to your ears, why not just be decisive and UNFRIEND ME and
return to your cocoon. I assure you as long as your comments appear on
my page, if there is a spiritual lesson to be learned there, I shall
expose it.
nb: > Nigel Beckwith We can never get away from wisdom.
nb: > Nigel Beckwith I am not going to unfriend you. Just because I
feel you are not seeing sense.
nb: > Maybe one day you will learn something from us....maybe.
rk: There you have it folks. I stand on what has been said above.
Many of you are not even aware of the deep psychological and spiritual
ramifications of the above dialogue. In this thread the Satanic
dialectic of the Intellect has been exposed for what it is. One can
see despite the charm and positive imaged responses, they have all led
to division, conflict and opposition.
rk: If you wonder why the worlds is the Hell that it is. LOOK NO
FURTHER, FOR YOU HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED TO WAY OF LIFE YOU HAVE BEEN
CONDITIONED TO LIVE. Hell, isn't it?
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