New UC Berkeley Study: Hispanic Children Lag Behind White & Asian Children In Cognitive Ability
James Miller
A forthcoming study on Hispanic children�s cognitive skills underlines the
challenges the country faces in aspiring to close the achievement gap
between these children and their white and Asian counterparts. Hispanic
�children fall behind their peers in mental development by the time they
reach grade school, and the gap tends to widen as they get older,� reports
the New York Times. �The drop-off in the cognitive scores of Hispanic
toddlers, especially those from Mexican backgrounds, was steeper than for
other [low-income] groups and could not be explained by economic status
alone. . . . From 24 to 36 months, the Hispanic children fell about six
months behind their white peers on measures like word comprehension, more
complex speech and working with their mothers on simple tasks.�
This new study, from the University of California�Berkeley, may be unusually
blunt in its assessment of Hispanic cognitive development, but it is hardly
unprecedented.
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>
> A forthcoming study on Hispanic children’s cognitive skills underlines the
> challenges the country faces in aspiring to close the achievement gap
> between these children and their white and Asian counterparts. Hispanic
> “children fall behind their peers in mental development by the time they
> reach grade school, and the gap tends to widen as they get older,” reports
> the New York Times. “The drop-off in the cognitive scores of Hispanic
> toddlers, especially those from Mexican backgrounds, was steeper than for
> other [low-income] groups and could not be explained by economic status
> alone. . . . From 24 to 36 months, the Hispanic children fell about six
> months behind their white peers on measures like word comprehension, more
Having grown on the border surrounded by Mexicans, I
Dänk 1010011010
>
> A forthcoming study on Hispanic children’s cognitive skills underlines the
> challenges the country faces in aspiring to close the achievement gap
> between these children and their white and Asian counterparts. Hispanic
> “children fall behind their peers in mental development by the time they
> reach grade school, and the gap tends to widen as they get older,” reports
> the New York Times. “The drop-off in the cognitive scores of Hispanic
> toddlers, especially those from Mexican backgrounds, was steeper than for
> other [low-income] groups and could not be explained by economic status
> alone. . . . From 24 to 36 months, the Hispanic children fell about six
> months behind their white peers on measures like word comprehension, more
As a gringo who grew up on the border surrounded by Mexicans, I am
very familiar with them and their culture, and their lack of academic
achievement is explained by their culture, which does not value
education like ours does.
To understand Mexican culture you must understand Mexico and its
history. Mexican society consists of three castes: pure-blooded
indios on the bottom, mixed-race mestizos in the middle, and pure-
blooded Spanish blancos at the top.
Education does not matter much in Mexico, only social and political
connections. Lowly indios and mestizos have no connections, so remain
on the bottom no matter how highly educated they may be. There is no
reason for a Mexican to attend college unless he is a member of the
white elite, since non-whites have no chance of moving up the social
ladder. Look at photos of Mexico's recent presidents and government
officials, and you will see that almost every single one of them is a
light-skinned blanco.
The solution to this is to integrate Mexicans into U.S. culture, but
this would entail the destruction of Mexican culture. Mexican culture
is lots of fun, with good food and good music, but it is an
intellectual wasteland. But cultural diversity means tolerating other
people's differences, without trying to turn them into copies of
yourself.
*Anarcissie*
> ...
> The solution to this is to integrate Mexicans into U.S. culture, but
> this would entail the destruction of Mexican culture. Mexican culture
> is lots of fun, with good food and good music, but it is an
> intellectual wasteland. But cultural diversity means tolerating other
> people's differences, without trying to turn them into copies of
> yourself.
I once hung out with some santeros or brujos who were
pretty intellectual in their way, but I doubt if they would
score well on a UC Berkeley study. They could put a
hex on UC Berkeley, though. As if it needed one.
Mexico is a wasteland because of the racism you
describe, but there is actually a lot going on and some
integration into U.S. culture might actually free the
lower orders to enact the weirdness which they have
hitherto been forced to keep secret, or at least out of
sight.
James A. Donald
> To understand Mexican culture you must understand
> Mexico and its history. Mexican society consists of
> three castes: pure-blooded indios on the bottom,
> mixed-race mestizos in the middle, and pure- blooded
> Spanish blancos at the top.
There are no pure blooded blancos at the top. Rather,
the people at the top have a mostly spanish ancestry,
but quite obviously not completely spanish ancestry.
Observe, for example:
<http://www.metalsnews.com/featured.aspx?ArticleID=58130>
> Education does not matter much in Mexico, only social
> and political connections. Lowly indios and mestizos
> have no connections, so remain on the bottom no matter
> how highly educated they may be. There is no reason
> for a Mexican to attend college unless he is a member
> of the white elite, since non-whites have no chance of
> moving up the social ladder. Look at photos of
> Mexico's recent presidents and government officials,
> and you will see that almost every single one of them
> is a light-skinned blanco.
I find it hard to believe that there is racism, when the
races are so visibly mingled. Surely it is more likely
that people of predominantly spanish ancestry are simply
smarter on average than people of predominantly indian
ancestry.
If you take a random sample of mostly spanish people,
and a random sample of mostly indian people, there will
be a great deal of overlap. In this sense whiteness is
a very poor predictor of ability. But if you take the
very smartest mostly spanish people, and the very
smartest mostly indian people, there will be almost no
overlap - the very smartest mostly spanish people will
be smarter than the very smartest mostly indian people
to the same degree as the average mostly spanish person
is smarter than the average mostly indian person.
This is why affirmative action in the US unavoidably
means making dimwitted violent thugs college professors.
Even though there is large overlap at the lower levels,
and a fair bit of overlap at the moderately middle class
levels, there is a very conspicuous lack of overlap at
the highest levels.
http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1321
Black Man: “Don’t you think that white privilege
has gone on long enough in this country?”
White woman: “What exactly do you mean by ‘white
privilege?’ “
“You know goddamned well what I mean! Now I’ll
show you some black privilege!”
With that, a 59 year old Columbia University
prof hauled off and sucker-punched the white
woman in the face and then for good measure took
a swing at the white man who intervened.
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<3oi4g5lbj910c4bbt...@4ax.com>,
James A. Donald <jam...@echeque.com> wrote:
> ...
> Black Man: “Don’t you think that white privilege
> has gone on long enough in this country?”
>
> White woman: “What exactly do you mean by ‘white
> privilege?’ “
>
> “You know goddamned well what I mean! Now I’ll
> show you some black privilege!”
>
> With that, a 59 year old Columbia University
> prof hauled off and sucker-punched the white
> woman in the face and then for good measure took
> a swing at the white man who intervened.
This is an atrocity story by somewhat who later
writes, "the esteemed Professor MacIntyre should
acknowledge his race’s need to repair itself..." The
writer things of "races" as coherent organisms which
have group consciousness, moral responsibility, and the
power of self-repair. There is, of course, no evidence
for such a view: it's a racist fantasy not far from the
Nazi concept of the _Volk_. Why bother quoting such
people? They're probably lying, and if they're not
lying they're almost certainly doing their best to
mislead people, just as they have misled themselves.
James A. Donald
> > http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1321
> > Black Man: “Don’t you think that white privilege
> > has gone on long enough in this country?”
> >
> > White woman: “What exactly do you mean by ‘white
> > privilege?’ “
> >
> > “You know goddamned well what I mean! Now I’ll
> > show you some black privilege!”
> >
> > With that, a 59 year old Columbia University
> > prof hauled off and sucker-punched the white
> > woman in the face and then for good measure took
> > a swing at the white man who intervened.
>
> This is an atrocity story by somewhat who later
> writes, "the esteemed Professor MacIntyre should
> acknowledge his race’s need to repair itself..."
Not an atrocity story, an affirmative action story. Lots of white
guys are similarly bad behaved. The point of the story is that there
are no white college professors that would behave so badly in public.
The point of the story is not that one black conforms to racist
stereotypes, but one black *professor* conforms to racist stereotypes,
The point of the story is that even an ivy league college finds that
to make its affirmative action quota, it has to recruit people that
are conspicuously below professorial quality.
Indeed, it is a general principle, that if you have two overlapping
populations, the edges of the bell curve do not overlap, so that when
you apply affirmative action to a job that recruits from one edge of
the bell curve, small, hard to measure, hard to notice differences
between populations become manifest as glaringly obvious and dramatic
differences between individuals.
> The
> writer things of "races" as coherent organisms which
> have group consciousness, moral responsibility, and the
> power of self-repair.
The context is that Professor McIntyre is claiming to speak for group
consciousness, and punching out a white women for group moral
responsibility, that affirmative action is justified and supported by
such claims.
If the writer wanted to make a point about race, he would have
employed one of those horror videos of gangs of subhumans caught on
the surveillance camera of a school bus.
M J Carley
>Not an atrocity story, an affirmative action story. Lots of white
>guys are similarly bad behaved. The point of the story is that there
>are no white college professors that would behave so badly in public.
Let's see how this case goes:
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2009/6/11/harvard-professor-arrested-for-assault-and/
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*Anarcissie*
> James A. Donald <jam...@echeque.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > >http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1321
> > > Black Man: “Don’t you think that white privilege
> > > has gone on long enough in this country?”
>
> > > White woman: “What exactly do you mean by ‘white
> > > privilege?’ “
>
> > > "You know goddamned well what I mean! Now I’ll
> > > show you some black privilege!"
>
> > > With that, a 59 year old Columbia University
> > > prof hauled off and sucker-punched the white
> > > woman in the face and then for good measure took
> > > a swing at the white man who intervened.
>
Don't be silly. The explicit point drawn, as I pointed
out, involved notions of races as organic unities with
group minds and other improbable attributes. The
writer is not a reasonable person: he has a kind of
religion or superstition about race. For some reason,
probably their very lack of reason, people who
adopt such beliefs favor atrocity stories -- isolated
incidents which they claim demonstrate the truth
of their delusional beliefs. Surely you're not going
to stand here, so to speak, and argue in favor
of superstitious concepts like the organic unity
of races and group mind.
The idea that professors are at the edges of
some kind of bell curve (of what? surely not
intelligence) is amusing, but the above story
wouldn't apply anyway, since it is about a person
being ill-tempered and possibly pathologically
unable to control himself, rather than about
intelligence, professorial ability, learning,
accomplishment, etc. etc. etc. It also may
not apply because it is either untrue or
distorted -- consider the source.
James A. Donald
wrote:
> In the referenced article, James A. Donald <jam...@echeque.com> writes:
>
> >Not an atrocity story, an affirmative action story. Lots of white
> >guys are similarly bad behaved. The point of the story is that there
> >are no white college professors that would behave so badly in public.
>
> Let's see how this case goes:
>
> http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2009/6/11/harvard-professor-arrested-for-assault-and/
In that case, which I presume involves a white professor, the only
witnesses are the two individuals involved, therefore not in public in
the sense of the black professor punching a woman inside a bar in
front of colleagues, whereupon the bouncer jumped him. I was not
claiming that all white professors are virtuous. I was claiming that
all white professors possess some self control and no white professors
are entirely stupid.
James A. Donald
<anarc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Don't be silly. The explicit point drawn, as I pointed
> out, involved notions of races as organic unities with
> group minds and other improbable attributes.
The title of the article is "Black liberation theology in action"
http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1321
So the explicit point drawn is about "black liberation theology" - the
writer is condemning an ideology and program that he attributes to the
black professor who punched out a white woman in front of colleagues
and a bouncer, which ideology involved notions of races as organic
unities with group minds and other improbable attributes.
> The idea that professors are at the edges of
> some kind of bell curve (of what? surely not
> intelligence) is amusing, but the above story
> wouldn't apply anyway, since it is about a person
> being ill-tempered and possibly pathologically
> unable to control himself
100% of white professors have better control than that when in front
of colleagues and a bouncer is nearby.
*Anarcissie*
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:59:07 -0800 (PST), "*Anarcissie*"
>
> > Don't be silly. The explicit point drawn, as I pointed
> > out, involved notions of races as organic unities with
> > group minds and other improbable attributes.
>
> The title of the article is "Black liberation theology in action"
> http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1321
>
> So the explicit point drawn is about "black liberation theology" - the
> writer is condemning an ideology and program that he attributes to the
> black professor who punched out a white woman in front of colleagues
> and a bouncer, which ideology involved notions of races as organic
> unities with group minds and other improbable attributes.
It's as stupid when these do it as when those do it.
I guess they recognize one another. Deep calleth
unto deep. This is assuming the story is true, of
course.
> > The idea that professors are at the edges of
> > some kind of bell curve (of what? surely not
> > intelligence) is amusing, but the above story
> > wouldn't apply anyway, since it is about a person
> > being ill-tempered and possibly pathologically
> > unable to control himself
>
> 100% of white professors have better control than that when in front
> of colleagues and a bouncer is nearby.
I wouldn't count on it.
M J Carley
>On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:21:06 GMT, ens...@bath.ac.uk (M J Carley)
>wrote:
>> Let's see how this case goes:
>>
>> http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2009/6/11/harvard-professor-arrested-for-assault-and/
>In that case, which I presume involves a white professor, the only
>witnesses are the two individuals involved, therefore not in public
>in the sense of the black professor punching a woman inside a bar in
>front of colleagues, whereupon the bouncer jumped him. I was not
>claiming that all white professors are virtuous. I was claiming that
>all white professors possess some self control and no white
>professors are entirely stupid.
Have you spent much time in universities?
M J Carley
>On Nov 18, 5:11=A0pm, James A. Donald <jam...@echeque.com> wrote:
>> 100% of white professors have better control than that when in front
>> of colleagues and a bouncer is nearby.
>I wouldn't count on it.
And you'd be right not to.