km:  >  You say you understand Christ because it takes one to know
one. But in reading your posts I'm trying to understand what it means
to be a Christ, and it sounds like we all have this potential.

rk:  We do.

km:  >   I'm assuming this is a state of mind, no?

rk:  It is more than a state of mind (if you are living in your
intellect)  It is a state of Awareness which transcends the limitation
of the intellect.

km:  >   And that my Satanic conditioning is interfering with this
process, if I understand correctly.

rk:  Yes!

km:  >   I do however feel my Divine awareness expanding as I further
isolate myself from the superficial aspects of society, and through
the process of clearing my physical body from the toxic residues of
'normal' living.

rk:  Good.  It is the beginning of deconditioning process.  However,
one must not forget they co-create their society.

km:  >  The problem I see with your logic though is this: as I go
through life, I see teachers pass before me who teach me much the same
way you try to teach others.

rk:  The flaw in your statement lies in the fact that I am NOT a
teacher. I am not a leader.  I am not a salesman, I am just a simple
man of Truth.   I am not out to persuade anyone to a point of view.  I
am merely commenting upon the unfolding Truth of the moment and let it
speak for itself.

km:  >  In encompassing their ideologies though, I am being exposed to
another form of conditioning. Surely you are not the only one to have
achieved this level of enlightenment - so therefore the conditioning
you're inflicting on others is different. It is conditioning
nonetheless.

rk:  Ah!  Theres the rub.  As characterized above, my message is not
like others.  I merely speak the Truth and let the "devil take the
hindmost."   The only request I make of any listener or any reader is
that THEY PAY ATTENTION.  Listen or read with a quiet mind, not one
that is constantly chattering, interfering and interrupting.  

rk:   In such a quiet mind set, JUST LISTEN, and OBSERVE the gross and
subtle  reactions based in judgments/prior beliefs, that are sure to
arise within your consciousness to what is heard/read and you will be
introduced to your real Teacher --- your own spirit of Infinite
Intelligence!  

rk:   Just paying attention to the vibrations of the reactions which
arise in you is the DECONDITIONING PROCESS.  

rk:  That is the only savior you will need in this lifetime.  Use the
Intellect for communication and technical problem solving.  That is
its proper place/function.  In all other matters which pose as
nontechnical problems of life, just be quiet, be aware, pay attention.
That pristine state of divine quiet awareness is the Christ
Consciousness I speak of.  You already have it within you.  Your
Satanic Conditioning has taken over your societal consciousness and
thus your Divine awareness has been overwhelmed by superficial satanic
chattering.  Some call it psychological baggage.  

rk:  What I speak of is SO SIMPLE yet it appears to be SO COMPLICATED
to the complication-oriented Intellect that  you can see the hell it
raises with the experiences of frustration and anger which arise in in
the consciousness of those who respond to it.

km:  >   Quote from: Ray on Today at 11:50:45 AM
It is a state of Awareness which transcends the limitation of the
intellect.

km:  >  If awareness is to be defined as 'having knowledge of' and
intellect means 'the ability to reason' then can I take the statement
"a state of Awareness which transcends the limitation of the
intellect" to mean that the knowledge I already have is something
greater than I can comprehend in actual terms?

rk:  Yes, in simple terms you are transcending the "Letter of the
Word" and penetrating to the deeper levels of consciousness to connect
with the "Spirit of the word."

km:  >  Are you referring to our ability to judge based, not on
concrete evidence or something physical, but a feeling?

rk:  Not quite, holistic understanding, the essence of Truth,
penetrates all dimensions of Consciousness wherein the subtle
(feeling) and the Physical (gross) manifests as one.  If there is
dissonance, it cannot be true.  

km:  >  I always thought this 'feeling' or this 'voice inside my head'
to be remnant of a past experience I may not remember or advice given
so long ago that I had forgotten the source...

rk:  One can deceive oneself with "voices inside my head"  Truth has a
distinct, unreplicatable vibration.

rk:   When you get quiet enough to penetrate to the depths of your
consciousness, your being, you shall become highly attuned to that
nondualistic vibration of Truth, as it traverses the realms of
consciousness wherein the creation of images and concepts take form
until it reaches the superficial realm of Intellectual thought.  By
paying attention the the holistic, non replicatable vibration of
thought at the Spirit of the Word, and allowing it to guide you in all
things, you shall be living fully.

rk;:  You shall no longer be of the "Living Dead" subject to the
"aftermoment" time-bound illusions of Satanic conditioning with its
dissonance.    Slick mind controlling manipulators shall have no power
over you.  As you can see, it is difficult to communicate such
subtlety to Intellects that have been trained to take another's word
for it rather that test the truth of it for themselves.  These are the
"dumbed down sheeple" at the mercy of experts who have broken their
spirit through self-doubt,  that the Elitists now regards as "Useless
eaters."

km:  >  Quote from: Ray on Today at 11:50:45 AM
However, one must not forget they co-create their society.

km:  >  Do you think this is something that we do consciously?

rk:  NO!  How can that be when the vast majority of People are
UNAWARE, living by decree, following blindly,, fearing to depart from
such remote media mind control.

km:  >   Since learning to listen the voice of the inner aspect, I
have been brought into contact with some remarkeable individuals who
clearly either understand, or are in the process of beginning to
understand the state of awareness you speak of. I'm not speaking about
people who follow religion or ideology, or who practice yoga or other
rituals.

rk:  Your consciousness is expanding.  You will draw to you those of
similar expansion.  That is the miracle of Oneness.

km:  >  Quote from: Ray on Today at 11:50:45 AM
clearing my physical body from the toxic residues

km:  >  I have reached a point where my body reacts very badly to
processed 'false' foods - profound physical reactions, including
depression and lethargy - even from small amounts. I also am slowly
seeing that I cannot tolerate even mild recreational drugs like
marijuana or alcohol. At one point in my life, I was able to tolerate
copius amounts, and now do not understand why this is happening. Does
this awareness you speak of drive certain forces in the physical body?

rk:  What you are experiencing is REFINEMENT of energy at all levels
of your consciousness.  In other words, You are WAKING UP.  You are
learning that sobriety, clarity of sight is far more rewarding than
drugging yourself to escape your stalking illusions.

km:  >  Quote from: Ray on Today at 11:50:45 AM
I am just a simple man of Truth

km:  >  I understand. I suspect any negative reactions you're
receiving here are a result of your words 'satan' and 'christ' as
those are loaded terms and people tend to emotionally overreact.

rk:  Precisely.  It is necessary to awaken one from his/her
conditioned  satanic stupor

km:  >   As one friend once put it to me 'We are living in Satan's
world' and I suspect most people would take that to mean that our
ruler is a man with a black beard with horns.

rk:  That's as far as such dumb down Intellects can go.  Such is what
allows for the "blind to lead the blind".  

rk:  A Christ follows God's Law, He is guided by Truth, not the
satanic illusions which masquerade as Truth.  When it comes to the Law
of Mammon, He is a Spiritual Anarchist.  He has not need for a New
World Order Government to guide him through life.

km:  >  What I take it to mean is that we are living in a world of
evil and are faced with many tests. But I will agree with you...that
through the "pristine state of divine quiet awareness" we are given
guidance. This gives me much comfort.

rk:  You are blessed, for you "eyes to see and ears to hear."

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
*********************************************
"No other man but I in the recorded History of
mankind, including JESUS  CHRIST, has directly
revealed to the World the SATANIC WEAPON used to
enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"

bd:  >  ray--this is a concept which MANY people have discussed
THOROUGHLY for centuries, and is an example of what people call a
"delusion of grandeur."

rk:  Show me one piece of actual evidence to that fact.  Yours is
merely a personal judgement based on pure speculation, is it not?

                                            Ray
*********************************************
"No other man but I in the recorded History of
mankind, including JESUS  CHRIST, has directly
revealed to the World the SATANIC WEAPON used to
enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"

bd:  >  ray--this is a concept which MANY people have discussed
THOROUGHLY for centuries, and is an example of what people call a
"delusion of grandeur."

rk:  Show me one piece of actual evidence to that fact.  Yours is
merely a personal judgement based on pure speculation, is it not?

                                            Ray

Quote from: Ray on Today at 04:13:12 PM
rk:  Show me one piece of actual evidence to that fact.  Yours is
merely a personal judgement based on pure speculation, is it not?

bd:  >>  ray, go read the book "letters from the earth" by mark twain.
go read "galapagos " by kurt vonnegut.  you need to do your homework,
man...  when I said "thorough" I meant thorough.  i could go on and
on...  

rk:  Nope, you do not get off with such bs that easy..  Show me a
distilled statement made by any other man since civilized society
emerged on this earth who revealed that Intellectual Thought was the
Satanic Weapon used to rule over mankind.  That is the essence
contained in my sig line."No other man but I in the recorded History
of mankind, including JESUS  CHRIST, has directly
revealed to the World the SATANIC WEAPON used to
enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"

rk:  Hell if you are going to quote me, at least quote me accurately.

rk:  You first step was to misrepresent what I said.  Your second step
was to sidestep the challenge of presenting direct evidence to that
fact, by changing the challenge in a general sense to other books and
authors without revealing what those books and authors actually had to
say.  LIke any "letter of the word", misdirecting argumentative
debater, You squirm your way out of backing up your erroneous
statements, do you not?  No Brandon Dean,  I suspect the homework to
prove your assertion is yours not mine.  

rk:  by the way you are not being helped by mental midgets who go one
step further in misdirection by avoiding the original challenge
completely when he changes the focus upon dictionary definitions.
This is the kind of Letter of the Word misdirection that lawyers are
noted for.  

rk:  After 14 years of doing this on the Internet, I'm used to dealing
with "peanut galleries" but you guys take the cake.  See what
rainchild has to say for himself.

rc:  >  http://www.wordwebonline.com/en/DELUSIONSOFGRANDEUR

rc:  > Noun: delusions of grandeur

rc:  >    1. A delusion (common in paranoia) that you are much greater
and more powerful and influential than you really are

rc:  > Delusion- A false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating
evidence, especially as a symptom of mental illness, as in
schizophrenia.

rc:  > That was too easy!

rc:  > narcissism [?n??s??s?z?m], narcism [?n???s?z?m]
n
1. (Psychology) an exceptional interest in or admiration for oneself,

rk:  It would seem that rainchild is not interested in attacking the
message but his bruised unhealthy ego seems compelled to attack the
Messenger even when doing so, exposes his own limited intelligence.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
*********************************************
"No other man but I in the recorded History of
mankind, including JESUS  CHRIST, has directly
revealed to the World the SATANIC WEAPON used to
enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"

t1:  >   She doesn't do anything of the sort. Sharing the 'brunt of
the attack upon any mirror of Truth' would be laughable at best. When
her so-called stance on issues is questioned, she runs with giving no
answers. See the thread here and notice that she still has not
answered the question as to why she is even here on this forum.

rk:  Hi Trixi1, Glad you responded to this thread.  You bring up
issues that need to be examined deeper.  I read the thread you refer
to.  It is clear at least to me, if not others that you and kasha are
speaking at different levels of consciousness, must the same as our
past communications.  

rk:  The problems of the world are not "OUT THERE".  They orignate
from superficial beliefs held by blind conditioned believers (be it
political or religious) who are controlled through their emotional
reactions based on belief rather than understanding.

rk:  A man or woman of spiritual understanding, a Christ will always
serve as a Mirror of Truth, when relating to his/her fellow man/woman.

rk:  Truth is holistic.  Beliefs are partial fragments of such whole,
but are misperceived to be the whole.  That is how men can kill other
men over ideas.  It is all based on ignorance and at times, downright
stupidity.

t1:  >  She certainly seems to be showing an example of getting off on
starting fires but is not willing to deal with putting any out, so to
speak.

rk:  The fires started are self-ignited.  It is the breath of Truth
that ignites the smoldering illusion which hides behind the mask of
civility projected by undiscerning blind believers.  When I say blind
believers, I refer to those who have no depth of understanding of that
which they speak.  They have the words but they do not have the
understanding of the Spirit of the words.  They operate at the
manipulative level of the Letter of the Word.

rk;  Simple men and women, Christs, Mirror of Truths operate at the
Spirit Level of Words, and so are misunderstood by those of
undiscerning intellects, i.e., Satanic Conditioned blind believers
One can see the outrage that is generated amongst the blind, and the
dead. (the dead in this case refers to the aftermoment thought based
Intellect)   When Jesus "raised" the dead, such believers take its
meaning literally.  They miss the Truth that Jesus raised the
consciousness of some from the Living Dead, to the See the Truth which
liberates one, sets one free.  The satanic religious have obscured
such simplicity with MYTHS, SUPERSTITIONS, HYPNOSIS, ETC.
.  
t1:  >  She also claims that everyone here is ego-driven and only
agrees with everyone else when that is clearly not the case. She needs
to do her homework before she opens her mouth!

rk:  Here you voice an opinion based in Satanic Opposition, yet I am
sure that you do not SEE IT!   You offer no evidence of anything other
that she is not acting in the way as you would want her to.

t1:  >   Quote from: Ray on Today at 06:51:49 AM
Re: Typical Example of Satanic conditioned Ignorance on the Internet
Observe the defensiveness of responders to that which they themselves
project.  They are fighting with themselves and are too ignorant to
know it.  Such is the nature of the mirror of truth.  

t1:  >   It is not defensiveness but an answer in which was asked. We
are completely not 'fighting with' ourselves as you arrogantly claim
to observe.

rk:  The hell you're not!  You just cannot see it because you are
spiritually blind and cannot traverse to the state of consciousness
that reveals Truth in all.

t1:  >  Get off of your self-claimed pedestal and come down to
reality.

rk:  I stand on Truth.  It is clear to anyone who has the spiritual
eyes to see and ears to hear, that you, and others who are offended by
such truth, worship and serve the "idea" of Truth.  I assure you they
are not the same.  But you will have to see it for yourself, if that
is your desire.  Until you will fight like the "Info Warrior" you
claim yourself to be.

rk:  Ignoramuses take such pride in labels such as that.  They follow
"rabble rousers" who overwhelm them emotionally.  Those who serve the
agenda of Satan while claiming they follow God's Law.  One such
example of that is the patriot radio talk show Alex Jones.  He has
captured the imagination of blind believing sheeple and engenders an
Identification in them with fantasies of being glorious warriors.  Is
he not priming those who otherwise feel impotent to join together.
100,000 cowards do not make a single hero.  That is the satanic
illusion which dominate America at the present time.  It feed right
into the population control agenda of the New World Order

t1:  >  Drop your ego here. Don't deny it because your offensive words
show it completely comes from ego--not enlightenment as you claim.
People aren't stupid and can see you for what you are. You are
personally claiming a position to be a 'christ' when christ is the
meaning of the path to God Himself. Only one person on this earth can
and did do that with legitimacy and that one and only person is Jesus
Christ.

rk:  So the Satanic Myth goes.

t1:  >   Of course, you and your new New Age supporter on this forum
will have a problem with that but that is for you two to deal with.

rk:  Read my words.  Do you see a problem in them, or do you see
clarity that you cannot overcome?

t1:  >  At no time can anyone anywhere claim to be able to provide
more than Jesus Himself did. You claim in your signature line that

"No other man but I in the recorded History of
mankind, including JESUS  CHRIST, has directly revealed to the World
the SATANIC WEAPON used to enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"

t1:  >   however, you contradict yourself with that very line. You
many times use 'intellectual thought' or 'man's words, in other words'
because that is what is actually being used to enslave mankind and it
isn't the intellectual thought that is the problem in the first
place--it is the spiritual deadness. You certainly claim to be
enlightened but you definitely don't see that?

rk:  When in Rome, do as the Romans do.  When in Hell do the best you
can to wake up those who have condemned themselves to their self-made
hell.  

t1:  >   Quote from: Ray on Today at 06:51:49 AM
Re: Typical Example of Satanic conditioned Ignorance on the Internet
I am impressed with the firestorm that has been created on this forum
over such simple truth being expressed.  If for no other reason, it
exposes the spirit of blind believers hidden behind the hypocritical
masks they wear.

t1:  >   An egomaniac gets off on starting fires and sitting back and
watching the fires burn, such as you are and have been. Don't fool
yourself. Actually, more importantly, you're not fooling anyone.

rk:   Spoken like a fool, and a combatitive one at that...

t1:  >   Quote from: Ray on Today at 06:51:49 AM
Re: Typical Example of Satanic conditioned Ignorance on the Internet
You go girl.

t1:  >   Same as previous reply.

t1:  >   Quote from: Ray on Today at 06:51:49 AM
Re: Typical Example of Satanic conditioned Ignorance on the Internet
Brandon Dean, this is no attack on you.  On the contrary.  You and
Rainchild are performing a spiritual service to all on the forum by
exposing your emotional reactions to simple truth being stated.  

t1:  >   Oh, how special for you to claim that you didn't start this
but are just letting things fall where they may. Interesting.

rk:  If one pays attention to the thread, one will see just that.  I
speak simple truth.  I attack no one.  I do mirror responses though.
brandon dean, rainchild and you react emotionally to my words and
start the fires within their smoldering, warring, opposing Intellects.

t1:  >   I only see that you have the 'glee' emotion showing far and
wide over what you claim to be happening. I think it best to literally
'ignore' you when you claim to be the only man on the earth to have
the answer to awakening and freedom of man when that is a total
outright lie.

rk:  Truth is a hard thing to ignore.  As you and others have already
once said that you are finished with communicating with Me, yet here
you and they continue.  Hell, isn't it?

t1:  >   It isn't up to me or anyone else to provide those answers to
you. If you really want them, it's there for the asking in Jesus
Himself.

rk:  Jesus was a living Christ.  I am a living Christ. What's the
diff??

t1:  >   Find offense in that? Yeah, probably but He also said that
the following would happen and that is where I will leave you and
Kasha and your 'followers' to look further should you want to, but
don't say at some point that you weren't told the truth because it was
staring you right in the face the whole time and offered to you many
times. I am only one person relaying this truth.

t1:  >   Psalms 97
9 For thou, LORD, art high above all the earth: thou art exalted far
above all gods.
10 Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his
saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.
11 Light is sown for the righteous, and gladness for the upright in
heart.

t1:  >   Notice that if you get enjoyment out of causing negativity,
the Lord points out where that person's position stands and it is not
with Him (in this case it's looking like you).

For those of you who are railing at these dialogues presently going on
in this forum, and in this thread,  I can assure you that is is unique
and not going on publicly anywhere in the world at this time, or ever.
(if so, produce it.)

You are witnessing the depth and breadth of what Free Speech has to
offer in liberating the human spirit from its Satanic Conditioning.

That is why so many owners and moderators of Internet groups and
forums have sought to ban me from their groups.

See: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm#CENSORED

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com

*********************************************
"No other man but I in the recorded History of
mankind, including JESUS  CHRIST, has directly
revealed to the World the SATANIC WEAPON used to
enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"