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Relayer

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:42:39 AM11/24/09
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Anyone know a site that explains the Houses bill that isn't 2000 pages
long?

And I mean bipartisan. Thanks

Cheryl

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:43:58 PM11/24/09
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"Relayer" <relay...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone know a site that explains the Houses bill that isn't 2000 pages
> long?
>
> And I mean bipartisan. Thanks

I don't know if this is the type of thing you're wanting, but here it is.
You might want to check at the bottom for links to various summaries as
well.

http://edlabor.house.gov/blog/2009/10/affordable-health-care.shtml

>

relayer@dummiesrus

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:37:14 PM11/24/09
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Relayer <relay...@aol.com> wrote in news:79b7290d-04d1-4970-abd1-
18aacd...@o23g2000vbi.googlegroups.com:

> Anyone know a site that explains the Houses bill that isn't 2000 pages
> long?

Given that you seem to think that Houses and House's are synonymous, it is
obvious that your need for a Dummies version has nothing to do with the
number of pages.


tkd

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:18:35 PM11/24/09
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Sorry.. I think they are intentionally composed in a manner which
prevents a simple read for a reason. They don't want you understanding
them in their entirety until they are passed and become law.

SoundChaser

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:27:10 PM11/24/09
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"Relayer" <relay...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Relayer ol' buddy,
You must be delusional if you think it will be worth a second to
bother with. It will be the worst pile of BS yet!
SoundChaser


Relayer

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Nov 25, 2009, 6:48:26 AM11/25/09
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On Nov 24, 6:37�pm, relayer@dummiesRus wrote:
> Relayer <relayer...@aol.com> wrote in news:79b7290d-04d1-4970-abd1-
> 18aacd861...@o23g2000vbi.googlegroups.com:

>
> > Anyone know a site that explains the Houses bill that isn't 2000 pages
> > long?
>
> Given that you seem to think that Houses and House's are synonymous, it is
> obvious that your need for a Dummies version has nothing to do with the
> number of pages.

I left out an apostrophe dickface. It should be House's, but your
intellect is so low you couldn't see that. And no, you can't blow me
again tonight. How many times do I have to tell you?

Relayer

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:10:42 AM11/25/09
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On Nov 24, 7:27�pm, "SoundChaser" <b...@sleep.home> wrote:
> "Relayer" <relayer...@aol.com> wrote in message

Well, there are a couple of parts I think will pass both the House and
Senate. I just don't have the energy to go through the whole thing.

I watch CNN, I like it. I watch Fox, I hate it....

I am mostly interested in pre-existing conditions as that affected me
more than anything and perhaps I can get a reasonable insurance policy
and of course, the donut hole.

No disrespect to anyone but the whole Medicaid thing bothers me. I
honestly believe if SSDI is now your only income, you should
automatically also be enrolled in Medicaid in addition to Medicare,
which is not the case. There is a second "donut hole" most people
don't realize which is if your SSDI is too high, and even if it is
your only income, you might not qualify for it and it's pissing me off
right now. PLUS, I have 5 kids. Still, the answer is "no". And it has
nothing to do with assets as those went bye-bye in the 2 year wait
period.

What bugs me is I paid the max into FICA for 25 years and my normal
share of Medicare taxes. Probably over a million in taxes alone. And I
am refused help. My hospital last week tried to push through a
nutrional supplement I depend on to stay alive (there are even better
ones but the co-pay is out of reach, about $100 a day) so I use this
other one. If I was on Medicaid, it WOULD have been paid for 100%.
Actually, both would be. But since I paid so much into FICA, I don't
qualify as my SSDI is over the threshold. Nice eh? My medical care pre-
Medicare cost everything I had. Savings, 401K, investments, house,
everything. And it didn't even pay all of it, so my credit gets
screwed (whereas before I had stellar credit). My ONLY debt is
medical. But there is about a $400 a month additional donut hole.

I'm really sick of hearing Pelosi talk about Medicaid, which seems to
be working, and talking cuts in Medicare. It's ass-backwards.

Now, because of my surgery and transplant, which failed, I have NO
chance of going back to work which was my entire intent for consenting
to the surgery. And I am now twice as bad as I was pre-surgery.
Believe it or not, if my SSDI went down a bit, I would come out WAY
ahead.

But, no one really is talking the key points in any detail. And what's
her name from Louisiana should be removed from office. That was a
legal BRIBE to get her vote, since HER state is the only one that
qualifies for that aid and it was specifically written into the bill
to garner her vote.

Rant over.

Relayer

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:14:19 AM11/25/09
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Relayer

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:16:26 AM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 5:48�am, Relayer <relayer...@aol.com> wrote:

Also, these bills don't stand a chance of being reconciled before
spring. My bet is nothing will be signed before May-June.

relayer@dummiesrus

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:19:24 PM11/25/09
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Relayer <relay...@aol.com> wrote in
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> On Nov 24, 6:37�pm, relayer@dummiesRus wrote:
>> Relayer <relayer...@aol.com> wrote in news:79b7290d-04d1-4970-abd1-
>> 18aacd861...@o23g2000vbi.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Anyone know a site that explains the Houses bill that isn't 2000
>> > pages long?
>>
>> Given that you seem to think that Houses and House's are synonymous,
>> it is obvious that your need for a Dummies version has nothing to do
>> with the number of pages.
>
> I left out an apostrophe dickface. It should be House's, but your
> intellect is so low you couldn't see that.

What's an "apostrophe dickface?" Did you swallow that missing comma
together with your boyfriend's load, or did both wind up on the floor?

> And no, you can't blow me
> again tonight. How many times do I have to tell you?


Aren't dreams just wonderful?

Relayer

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Nov 26, 2009, 7:15:07 AM11/26/09
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On Nov 25, 3:19�pm, relayer@dummiesRus wrote:
> Relayer <relayer...@aol.com> wrote innews:710d3d64-e162-44cf-8409-

>
> What's an "apostrophe dickface?" �Did you swallow that missing comma
> together with your boyfriend's load, or did both wind up on the floor? �
>
>

Darn, I left out the comma too, dickface....

D.F. Manno

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Nov 27, 2009, 8:21:32 PM11/27/09
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In article <LB%Om.48492$W77....@newsfe11.iad>,
tkd <noe...@4meplease.thnks> wrote:

> Sorry.. I think they are intentionally composed in a manner which
> prevents a simple read for a reason. They don't want you understanding
> them in their entirety until they are passed and become law.

Yeah, that must be it. It couldn't possibly because the subject is
complicated, that the remedies are complicated, and that politics makes
everything more complicated. Why, I bet you could write a health care
reform bill in just two pages. The Republicans did.

--
D.F. Manno | dfm...@mail.com
Religion ... the only winning move is not to play!

D.F. Manno

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Nov 27, 2009, 8:22:31 PM11/27/09
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In article
<97ea0a90-406a-4108...@g26g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
Relayer <relay...@aol.com> wrote:

> No disrespect to anyone but the whole Medicaid thing bothers me. I
> honestly believe if SSDI is now your only income, you should
> automatically also be enrolled in Medicaid in addition to Medicare,
> which is not the case.

Because you can receive enough SSDI benefits to exceed the income limits
for Medicaid.

relayer@dummiesrus

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Nov 27, 2009, 8:36:00 PM11/27/09
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Relayer <relay...@aol.com> wrote in news:bcaaa2a4-a6b0-4810-b2ed-
f719dd...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:

Dickface? Are you just another Christian hypocrite like Six String Stu, or
are you actually a heathen? Also, just out of curiosity, is being a
dickface worse than being dickhead? And, is there anything worse than
being a dickface, or are you just mentally retarded and vocabulary limited?


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