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Ron

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:31:33 PM11/17/09
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A while back I had a very odd experience while taking a psych exam to
get on disability: I was taking the test and for a moment there was a
short rumbling sound, then a picture on the opposite wall suddenly
cracked... well, actually it sorta exploded.

Most people would have asked what the hell had happened, but the
psychologist there only looked at me for a few long moments, then
asked me if I believed in ESP. Considering the circumstances, I
thought it was a trick question so I said "no." The guy didn't say
anything else about it and and eventually I forgot about the entire
incident.

When I did finally get approved for SSI, I got a ton of papers from my
doctors, neurologists, etc but what really freaked me out was a line
written by the psychologist: "Subject does not believe in ESP." Oh-
kay... But since when does the SSA care what *anyone* believes one way
or another, and particularly when it comes to something as...
controversial... as ESP and psychic stuff?

Ron


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SoundChaser

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:42:36 PM11/17/09
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put the keyboard down and take your meds

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Mary Anne KC

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Nov 17, 2009, 10:54:03 PM11/17/09
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I'm on for mental disability and that story is a load od garbage. I
took the mental exam. I see my psychiatrist 4 times a year....that
kind of garbage NEVER happens...Get Lost Troll

Six String Stu

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:14:49 PM11/17/09
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"Ron" <ry...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote in message
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>A while back I had a very odd experience while taking a psych exam to
> get on disability: I was taking the test and for a moment there was a
> short rumbling sound, then a picture on the opposite wall suddenly
> cracked... well, actually it sorta exploded.
>
> Most people would have asked what the hell had happened, but the
> psychologist there only looked at me for a few long moments, then
> asked me if I believed in ESP. Considering the circumstances, I
> thought it was a trick question so I said "no." The guy didn't say
> anything else about it and and eventually I forgot about the entire
> incident.
>
> When I did finally get approved for SSI, I got a ton of papers from my
> doctors, neurologists, etc but what really freaked me out was a line
> written by the psychologist: "Subject does not believe in ESP." Oh-
> kay... But since when does the SSA care what *anyone* believes one way
> or another, and particularly when it comes to something as...
> controversial... as ESP and psychic stuff?
>
> Ron
>
The P in ESP stands for perception, not power. There is a term for the
ability to move and effect other objects tho.

So the point is You *do* believe in ESP and you are paranoid about what that
might mean?


earthpots

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Nov 18, 2009, 12:55:35 AM11/18/09
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Ron wrote:
> A while back I had a very odd experience while taking a psych exam to
> get on disability: I was taking the test and for a moment there was a
> short rumbling sound, then a picture on the opposite wall suddenly
> cracked... well, actually it sorta exploded.
>
> Most people would have asked what the hell had happened, but the
> psychologist there only looked at me for a few long moments, then
> asked me if I believed in ESP. Considering the circumstances, I
> thought it was a trick question so I said "no." The guy didn't say
> anything else about it and and eventually I forgot about the entire
> incident.
>
> When I did finally get approved for SSI, I got a ton of papers from my
> doctors, neurologists, etc but what really freaked me out was a line
> written by the psychologist: "Subject does not believe in ESP." Oh-
> kay... But since when does the SSA care what *anyone* believes one way
> or another, and particularly when it comes to something as...
> controversial... as ESP and psychic stuff?
>
> Ron
>
>
Apparently SSA didn't care whether you belived in ESP, or not. But that
doesn't mean that a doctor appointed by SSA isn't going to make mention of
it, or ask about it. The reason for asking, is the doctor's alone. Perhaps
he felt it necessary as part of the exam, though it does seem to be strange
question.

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>
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> We're just born this way. We pass you on the streets every day,
> unnoticed by most. "
>
> -- Cassie Holmes ("Push") --

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earthpots

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Nov 18, 2009, 1:02:15 AM11/18/09
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Good call! What does ESP have to do with the exploding picture? As for that
term, you might be thinking psychokinesis/telekinesis?


> So the point is You *do* believe in ESP and you are paranoid about
> what that might mean?

Heh! I really don't think SSA had anything to do with the question, and
couldn't care less what the OP believes. Why the doctor would ask as part of
a psych exam, is something I wouldn't know. But perhaps the doctor saw some
necessity for it, if it really happened.

Ron

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Nov 18, 2009, 5:20:51 AM11/18/09
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earthpots wrote:
> Six String Stu wrote:
> > "Ron" <ry...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote in message
> > news:d762f5cf-9eca-4033...@m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> >> A while back I had a very odd experience while taking a psych exam to
> >> get on disability: I was taking the test and for a moment there was a
> >> short rumbling sound, then a picture on the opposite wall suddenly
> >> cracked... well, actually it sorta exploded.
> >>
> >> Most people would have asked what the hell had happened, but the
> >> psychologist there only looked at me for a few long moments, then
> >> asked me if I believed in ESP. Considering the circumstances, I
> >> thought it was a trick question so I said "no." The guy didn't say
> >> anything else about it and and eventually I forgot about the entire
> >> incident.
> >>
> >> When I did finally get approved for SSI, I got a ton of papers from
> >> my doctors, neurologists, etc but what really freaked me out was a
> >> line written by the psychologist: "Subject does not believe in ESP."
> >> Oh- kay... But since when does the SSA care what *anyone* believes
> >> one way or another, and particularly when it comes to something as...
> >> controversial... as ESP and psychic stuff?
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> > The P in ESP stands for perception, not power. There is a term for the
> > ability to move and effect other objects tho.


Really... There's an account of how Freud and Jung were talking about
such things and Jung told Freud that he could make something happen. A
momment later, a rapping noise came from Freud's bookcase. Smiling,
Jung said he could do it again and to Freud's dismay, once again a
rapping sound came from his bookcase. Unfortunately, nobody seems to
know whether Freud was happy or if he kicked Jung out and never saw
him again but considering Freud's association with various people with
"wild talents" such as Messing, he probably was pleased at the
demonstration. But that's just supposition on my part.

> > So the point is You *do* believe in ESP and you are paranoid about
> > what that might mean?

It was 103 degrees, I was in pain, on morphine (which wasn't doing me
much good), and I wasn't thinking about much other than how I wish I
was seriously somewhere else. Not exctly the kind of conditions that
would inspire me to want to discuss with anyone my views on the
objective reality of psi abilities--

> Heh! I really don't think SSA had anything to do with the question, and
> couldn't care less what the OP believes. Why the doctor would ask as part of
> a psych exam, is something I wouldn't know. But perhaps the doctor saw some
> necessity for it, if it really happened.

It did happen; all of it. I told my physician about it a few days
later. She told me that maybe it was a "trick question" but she didn't
know for sure.

Considering where I live, she wasn't all that surprised that the
incident happened (as an extraordinary number of professionals in this
area have for reasons of their own, very open minds when it comes this
subject), but like me, she wondered why the psychologist even bothered
to write such an entry down in an official evaluation for the SSA.
And maybe I am paranoid, cuz I really would like to know why someone
at the SSA would even see such a comment and repeat it in a report
that would be seen by a number of people.

Fibromyalgia is considered to be a psychological-- not a physiological
problem-- when it comes to the SSA. They are probably the only ones
left who *don't* consider it to be a medical condition. So was it in
spite of the comment or because of it, after a number of failed
appeals, I finally did get disability? What kind of freaking neessity
could anyone have for putting that comment in a report?

Ron

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