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More options Jun 15, 11:44 pm

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From: Robert <n...@e.mail>

Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:44:21 -0500

Local: Sun, Jun 15 2008 11:44 pm

Subject: Re: Smoking in movies

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On 15 Jun 2008 22:47:44 GMT, anon3...@nyx.nyx.net (Bruce Watson) wrote:

>In article <fl8s24h3kmv7erjv1l2ic1ga5ed3nbv...@4ax.com>,
>Robert <n...@e.mail> wrote:
>>On Fri, 16 May 2008 15:23:25 -0700 (PDT), a.en...@gmail.com wrote:

>>>On May 16, 3:09?pm, Malcolm <rbrone...@broughton.ca> wrote:
>>>> On May 15, 8:03 pm, Robert <n...@e.mail> wrote:

>>>> > Lie from an antismoking web site:

>>>> Lie from Robert:

>>>> "Smokers are not addicted to nicotine any more than alcoholics are
>>>> addicted to alcohol, gamblers are addicted to gambling, sex addicts
>>>> are addicted to sex, food addicts are addicted to food or religion
>>>> addicts are addicted to religion." - Robert, April 15, 2008

>>>Yeah, and they can stop any time they want without any side effects.
>>>That means they will not kick their dog, beat their wife, or kick in
>>>the TV set while they are going through withdrawl pangs.

>>Yes, they can easily stop .. not because they want to stop, but because
>>they no longer
>>want to continue. There's a big difference between the two. Physical
>>effects are trivial
>>and persist only a few hours. The alleged addiction is psychological,
>>not physiological.

>>Ask how anyone can be chemically addicted to gambling, sex or religion
>>when no chemicals
>>are put into the body. There ARE chemicals involved, but they are
>>internally synthesized.
>>Smoking works through the smae pathways. The smoker isn't addicted to
>>nicotine, he's
>>addicted to the neurotransmitter dopamine, which is also stimulated by
>>roller coasters,
>>slasher movies, water parks and the 'runner's high'.

>Nicotine physically mimics the neurochemicals of the reward
>system in the brain.

Nicotine bonds with acetylcholine receptors. That's not the reward system in the brain,
that's the ligand-gated ion channel on the surface of CNS cells that controls osmotic
pressure by allowing sodium and potassium to enter and leave.

Dopamine is the brain's reward system. Amphetamines mimic dopamine and cocaine prevents
the reuptake of naturally produced dopamine. Nicotine doesn't react with dopamine
receptors in any way, it INDIRECTLY stimulates CNS cells to produce dopamine. So do food,
sex and psychological stimulii such as gambling and roller coasters.

>Nicotine addiction cannot be compared to addiction to gambling,
>sex or religion. No external addicting drug is involved.

There's only one form of dopamine. Receptors don't know or care WHY it was produced.

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