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Tom Mack

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Jul 21, 2002, 1:25:27 PM7/21/02
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Good Sunday afternoon to y'all. Did some oil painting, today. An old
grist mill from New England. Very relaxing... some music in the
background, an occasional pipe mixed in. I also enjoy pen and ink
drawings. Created a cartoon strip years ago that was published in a
regional "artsey-fartsey" monthly magazine.
My question is, how many ASPers pursue artistic avocations, such as
this. And, what media do you like best?

Tom Mack

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"Doing nothing gets pretty tiresome, because you can't stop and rest."
- ANON

Starving Student

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Jul 21, 2002, 3:58:37 PM7/21/02
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> My question is, how many ASPers pursue artistic avocations, such as
>this. And, what media do you like best?
>
>Tom Mack

Well..hmm..I've long debated it being an art but I'm a writer and musician.
Short stories, poetry, and song. Don't know if this qualifies (I'll even debate
it's merits as "art") but it's something that you have to think a
little..differently about.
+The Starving Student+

but then again..who's not a musician? Guitarists are a dime a dozen.
"I saved latin. What did you ever do?"

Bernie

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"Tom Mack" <tma...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Good Sunday afternoon to y'all. Did some oil painting, today. An old
> grist mill from New England. Very relaxing... some music in the
> background, an occasional pipe mixed in. I also enjoy pen and ink
> drawings. Created a cartoon strip years ago that was published in a
> regional "artsey-fartsey" monthly magazine.
> My question is, how many ASPers pursue artistic avocations, such as
> this. And, what media do you like best?
>
> Tom Mack
>

I've done a bit of painting many years ago mostly in acrylic. Though I don't
think what I did was that good it was still a lot better than I expected I
could do. I painted what I saw around me in the room and a self portrait
because I couldn't get anyone else to sit for me.


> "Doing nothing gets pretty tiresome, because you can't stop and rest."
> - ANON


I think that quote is something that could easily have been said by Jerome
K. Jerome if, indeed, it wasn't him.


Bernie

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Jul 21, 2002, 7:59:32 PM7/21/02
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"Starving Student" <given...@aol.commiserate> wrote in message
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This might be asking for a whole new thread but you can include or exclude
any activity known to man depending on your definition of art. Under my def
writing and music can certainly be included.


Ian Rastall

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Jul 21, 2002, 9:07:47 PM7/21/02
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:25:27 -0400 (EDT), tma...@webtv.net (Tom Mack)
wrote:

> My question is, how many ASPers pursue artistic avocations, such as
>this. And, what media do you like best?

I write. Fiction, poetry, and essay. I tend to focus most on poetry,
and have been quietly slogging away at not sucking for the last 15
years. As I've mentioned, I figure (conservatively) that I've written
about 1000 finished poems. Although, come to think of it, that
number's probably higher. But I've thrown away almost all of my work,
and only consider my most recent poem to be any good.

Ian
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That oughta be like hittin' fungoes
with a corked bat. (Nathaniel Ward)

http://www.aspipes.org/

Tom Mack

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Jul 21, 2002, 8:59:56 PM7/21/02
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Dear S.S.:
I've played music, in various forms, all my life. All cultures, in
all times have had forms of music. Why? Because it truly does speak to
the soul. Now, whether its music or graphic art, or dance, or whatever,
it all comes from the same creative well-spring. I've always compared
creativity to a pressure cooker without a safety release valve. You
HAVE to find a way to release that creative steam or you'll blow up.
Then, the best in you will almost always be exibited.

Tom Mack

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"When choosing between two evils, I always like to take the one I've
never tried before." - Mae West

Tom Mack

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Jul 21, 2002, 9:46:02 PM7/21/02
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Hi Ian:
You've mentioned that before...quite recently. The concept that a
writer views all, but his most recent work, as inferior. I believe that
all creative people have alot of pedestrian work in their past. BUT,
you have to admit, once in a while, someithing truly special is born.
From whence it comes, we don't know, but it's good anyways. And, on
that rare day, alls right with the world (until we wake up the next
day).
I'd love for you to share one of your poems with us at ASP. It
wouldn't have to be long, or funny...just something that speaks to you.
ASP is chuck-ful of enlightened people. Give us a try. Do you have the
guts? (That's a challenge, by the way.)

Tom Mack

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"We really don't have enemies,,,it's just that some of our best friends
are trying to kill us." - ANON

Gerard Montoya

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Jul 21, 2002, 10:25:34 PM7/21/02
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I've painted and drawn all my life, using a
variety of media, my favorite being watercolor.

Of late have been enjoying photo digital
manipulation challenges on this website...

http://www.retouchpro.com/

the premise is that a manipulation challenge is
issued, some starting images provided, and you are
challenged to do something creative using digital
manipulation, software, lots of fun!!

here's some of my entries...

<http://www.retouchpro.com/challenge/manipulation/
challenge1/challengeM1_montoya.html>

<http://www.retouchpro.com/challenge/manipulation/
challenge5/challengeM5_montoya.html>

<http://www.retouchpro.com/challenge/manipulation/
challenge7/challengeM7_montoya.html>


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Ian Rastall

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Jul 21, 2002, 10:23:07 PM7/21/02
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:46:02 -0400 (EDT), tma...@webtv.net (Tom Mack)
wrote:

>ASP is chuck-ful of enlightened people. Give us a try. Do you have the


>guts? (That's a challenge, by the way.)

Check it out:

***

"Enwrapped"

Global chain:
it itself a bond and a bondage,
and a wrapped unity . . .
knits our chaoses
and turbulent love.

How closely tugged
and straining
we are,
without the satisfaction
of being close.

***

That's the most recent one.

Steve Oglesby

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Jul 21, 2002, 10:43:34 PM7/21/02
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 01:07:47 GMT, Ian Rastall wrote:

>I write.

And you could use some of your penalty-box time to add another chapter
or two to a certain story...

Steve


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there have been any number of them.
It's like the fellow who said it was easy to quit smoking;
he'd done it lots of times.
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Il Tigre

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Jul 21, 2002, 10:54:12 PM7/21/02
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"Starving Student" <given...@aol.commiserate> wrote in message
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> but then again..who's not a musician? Guitarists are a dime a dozen.

Speak for yourself, numbnuts! I've been all over the world as a
professional musician and have done quite nicely as one. I've played guitar
for over 25 years and have written/recorded several albums of my own music
as well as with other groups and artists.

The difference between someone who can strum a few chords and folks like Van
Halen, Holdsworth, Clapton, BB King, etc. is like the difference between
smoking lawn mulch or a fine aged Virginia Flake...;-)

Sheeesh! Next thing we'll hear is someone saying that "A pipe is a pipe..."
*GAG*

Ian Rastall

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Jul 21, 2002, 11:25:48 PM7/21/02
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 02:43:34 GMT, Steve Oglesby
<ste...@crossroadusa.com> wrote:

>And you could use some of your penalty-box time to add another chapter
>or two to a certain story...

Give the Maestro time, Steve. Crap doesn't grow on trees!

ip...@ptd.net

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Jul 21, 2002, 11:16:48 PM7/21/02
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> On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:25:27 -0400 (EDT), tma...@webtv.net (Tom Mack)
> wrote:
>
>> My question is, how many ASPers pursue artistic avocations, such as
>> this. And, what media do you like best?
>
> I write. Fiction, poetry, and essay. I tend to focus most on poetry,
> and have been quietly slogging away at not sucking for the last 15
> years. As I've mentioned, I figure (conservatively) that I've written
> about 1000 finished poems. Although, come to think of it, that
> number's probably higher. But I've thrown away almost all of my work,
> and only consider my most recent poem to be any good.
>
> Ian

I'd like to smack this guy. I've read his work. It's outstanding.
To throw it away just ain't right. No more tossin' it, Ian, or I'm comin' up
there.

Nizo

Ian Rastall

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Jul 21, 2002, 11:47:29 PM7/21/02
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 03:16:48 GMT, "ip...@ptd.net" <ip...@ptd.net> wrote:

>No more tossin' it, Ian, or I'm comin' up
>there.

OMG, can you guys see what I'm doing???

Don Giles

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Jul 22, 2002, 12:32:08 AM7/22/02
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I am a photographer. I have had several exhibits and sell images to a few
magazines. Now I work strictly with digital capture processes.

Don


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Mingkahuna

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Jul 22, 2002, 10:01:26 AM7/22/02
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Well, I'm known for Ming-Kahuna which is my expression of functional art, but
art has been a major component for much of my life. When in school I only
looked at "practical" career choices which pretty much left out art as a career
option. Even though I have always sketched for relaxation, it wasn't until Ming
that I kinda let my creative juices flow. That, and a book that I began in
1995. Its half finished and I've begun to peck at it again. My goal was to
have it finished by 1998, so you can see that I'm running a bit behind. But
for Ming, it would be done.

I also have plans for future artistic endeavors. I'm currently moving into
larger size sculpting in acrylic. These will be pieces that are appropriately
sized for table tops. I'm also looking at "art for art's sake" sculpting on a
smaller scale with new products called "Props" and "Touchstones" which, in
concept, borrow from the tradition of netsuke.

Finally, I also plan to try my hand at painting with acryylics in the future,
and, I can't pass a potter's wheel without feeling pangs of longing.

Buzz

ip...@ptd.net

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Jul 22, 2002, 10:45:49 AM7/22/02
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> I also have plans for future artistic endeavors. I'm currently moving into
> larger size sculpting in acrylic. These will be pieces that are appropriately
> sized for table tops. I'm also looking at "art for art's sake" sculpting on a
> smaller scale with new products called "Props" and "Touchstones" which, in
> concept, borrow from the tradition of netsuke.
>
> Finally, I also plan to try my hand at painting with acryylics in the future,
> and, I can't pass a potter's wheel without feeling pangs of longing.
>
> Buzz

Seems like a natural and smooth evolution from where you now are. Looking
forward to some fine work.

Nizo

Tom Mack

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Jul 22, 2002, 11:24:20 AM7/22/02
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Intriguing, Ian. A number of opposing thoughts in that one. I'm going
to have to meditate of that for awhile. If you post them now and again,
you might actually make this a "high class" NG. ;-)

Tom Mack

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stil rolling."
- Mark Twain

Tom Mack

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Jul 22, 2002, 11:30:38 AM7/22/02
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Hi Gerald:
Wish I could do water color. Tried a couple of times, but couldn't
get a feel for the technique. Guess I'm just stuck with oils and pen &
ink. Some of the most beautiful, subtle moods can only be accomplished
with water color.

Tom Mack

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"What's the difference between ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I
don't care." - ANON

Ecolinks

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Jul 22, 2002, 12:10:11 PM7/22/02
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I have been known to do a little watercolour from time to time but my prefered
medium right now is the digicam.

Robbie

Qberticus

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Jul 22, 2002, 12:37:38 PM7/22/02
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I've been studying classical piano for the past 13 years and will continue
untill they can pry my cold dead body off the keyboard. Programming for
the past 15 years. ;) If ya'll want to say it's not an art I got a nice
stick for ya :)

Gerard Montoya

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Jul 22, 2002, 12:42:16 PM7/22/02
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If your using pen and ink, and doing washes, then
you're essentially using a monotone watercolor
technique! You ought to get yourself a little set
and give it a go!! If anything it is great fun
experimenting with techniques, all imho of course.

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CRodri5569

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>"Enwrapped"


Thanks, Ian. You SHOULD consider yourself a poet. This is very good work, in
my opinion.

Charlie


Rev. Melissa Robitille

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Jul 22, 2002, 1:46:17 PM7/22/02
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> Speak for yourself, numbnuts!

Tut, tut. Be nice. He's a kid and not altogether sure of his skills. And,
you do have to admit that a lot of kids do strum a few chords on a guitar -
he just hasn't run into the wall that you have to get over to be *really*
good yet ( or if he has he *knows* he's a kid and doesn't want to brag just
in case he was wrong after all ). Strummers are a dime a dozen, Starving,
when you go beyond that into *art*, however - well, guitarists like that are
pretty darn rare.

Rev. Melissa 'Red Rev' Robitille ( Mother Hen-ing again )


Rev. Melissa Robitille

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Jul 22, 2002, 2:00:20 PM7/22/02
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Let's see... I suppose it depends upon the definition of art, doesn't it?

I write novels - two romances are published, 7 romances are in the works, 1
fantasy genre is in the works, 1 sci-fi is in the works...

I write non-fiction - nothing published save for an edited version of the
party platform I wrote for my state's branch of my political party... My
sermons aren't for publication - they're more 'performance art'. :D

I write the lousiest poetry in the world - I suppose being worst at
something is an art.

In musical endeavors, I sing. I used to sing semi-professionally ( choir
soloist for weddings, funerals, and Christmas, plus a few 'party gigs' with
a group of friends ), but soon realized that my looks don't make a
'marketable package' in mainstream music, and with an uncontrolled vibrato
opera was right out.

I paint ( acrylic and watercolor ), and sketch with pen & ink, charcoal,
pencil, colored pencil, and pastels. I stick with portraits, as people are
far more interesting to me than landscape or still life and I just can't
abide trying abstract art.

I tried sculpture and failed miserably.

Fiber arts - well, designing and making garments - nothing so weird as what
ambles along a Haute Couture catwalk, mind you. I create classic garments
that can be worn for years ( hopefully with washes between wearings! )
without ever looking out of style.

And finally... calligraphy, which I'm actually reasonably good at. :D

Joshua Rosenblatt

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On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:00:20 -0400, Rev. Melissa Robitille wrote
(in message <ahhhr2$sq3fj$1...@ID-120342.news.dfncis.de>):

> Let's see... I suppose it depends upon the definition of art, doesn't it?

oh no... not *that* debate again! LOL

Joshua
gently elbowing Ian in the ribs he he he

Bernie

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"Qberticus" <nos...@whyspamwhy.questionmark.bang.questionmark.bang.com>
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As a fellow programmer I'll go along with that. In fact I find it an
incredibly creative activity.


Tony Miller

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On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:37:43 -0400,
Joshua Rosenblatt <joshuaro...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:00:20 -0400, Rev. Melissa Robitille wrote
> (in message <ahhhr2$sq3fj$1...@ID-120342.news.dfncis.de>):
>
>> Let's see... I suppose it depends upon the definition of art, doesn't it?
>
> oh no... not *that* debate again! LOL

Mmmmmason jjjjar.... urrrr... <fighting desperately>

No, I won't do it!!!

> Joshua
> gently elbowing Ian in the ribs he he he

-Tony

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Jonathan Block

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Jul 22, 2002, 5:52:06 PM7/22/02
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I make pipes, I'm a professional musician (keys and bass), and a poet
(published and teach).


regards,
jonathan
http://www.blockpipes.com

Ian Rastall

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On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:24:20 -0400 (EDT), tma...@webtv.net (Tom Mack)
wrote:

>Intriguing, Ian. A number of opposing thoughts in that one. I'm going


>to have to meditate of that for awhile. If you post them now and again,
>you might actually make this a "high class" NG. ;-)

Well Tom, there's a lot of people who would suggest that my leaving
would class the place up. :) But thanks for the comments.

Ian Rastall

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On 22 Jul 2002 17:34:57 GMT, crodr...@aol.com (CRodri5569) wrote:

>Thanks, Ian. You SHOULD consider yourself a poet. This is very good work, in
>my opinion.

Thanks Charlie.

Stephen B.

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Jul 22, 2002, 11:22:25 PM7/22/02
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I'm a painter using oils/tar/rope/dirt... anything that will stick to
the canvas or wood with oils. I have shown some irrelevant works with
little success in the NYC alternative art world for about 25 years.
That is why I currently manage an art gallery rather than show in one.

-Stephen B.

Robert DOnnelly

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Jul 23, 2002, 5:20:12 AM7/23/02
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I love art, and fellow artists and their amazing talent, though I can
only persue my passion as a sideline at present, I would love to be
doing it fulltime. Basically, I'm a self taught artist, though have
taken a few class's. Have done some un-remarkable watercolor's, though
created some interesting Christmas cards way back, enjoy creating
one-of-a-kind pieces i.e., treehouses , castles, cottages, etc. and
using various mediums e.g. a sailing ship made from a violin, or a
'Cris Craft' boat made from a shoe. Presently working in bronzes, but
would also like to move into ceramics and other mediums.

All the Best,
Robert

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grace christian

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Jul 23, 2002, 9:53:46 AM7/23/02
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besides pipemaking and charcoal portraits, i am also chief shepherd. i tend
to the needs of my llamas. now that's an art.....i think. is it?
cheers

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KeyLay

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Jul 23, 2002, 8:50:31 PM7/23/02
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> Good Sunday afternoon to y'all. Did some oil painting, today. An old
> grist mill from New England. Very relaxing... some music in the
> background, an occasional pipe mixed in. I also enjoy pen and ink
> drawings. Created a cartoon strip years ago that was published in a
> regional "artsey-fartsey" monthly magazine.
> My question is, how many ASPers pursue artistic avocations, such as
> this. And, what media do you like best?
>
> Tom Mack
>
> ---
>
> "Doing nothing gets pretty tiresome, because you can't stop and rest."
> - ANON

Hey, Tom.

I did a comic strip back in college for the paper but don't touch on
it as I really should. Mainly, doodling during meetings. However, I
make my own 'novella' Xmas card each year in a comic style. Something
I enjoy and folks seem to like it. So, mainly pencils and inking while
doing this.

Also writing (when I get a chance) and have very recently begun to
learn guitar.

I've made procrastination into an art. Does this count? If so, I'll
get around to telling you about it later.

Off for now! More comic ideas to think of....

Kyle

A.T. Barr

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Jul 24, 2002, 7:26:33 PM7/24/02
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I guess some of my knives come close to art.

A.T.

Tom Mack wrote:

> My question is, how many ASPers pursue artistic avocations, such as
> this. And, what media do you like best?
>
> Tom Mack
>
> ---
>
> "Doing nothing gets pretty tiresome, because you can't stop and rest."
> - ANON

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Doc Elder

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Jul 24, 2002, 10:47:48 PM7/24/02
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Having visited the web-site numerous times, I would
have to say that if I were making that statement, I'd
eliminate the qualifying phrase "close to". Friend Barr
is appropriately humble enough to include it, but I'm
detached enough that it I don't have to and I must
say that even the knives he's made that are the furthest
from my personal preferences elicit a whispered. I
wouldn't buy it if I had the money, but ain't she something.
I'd definitely call A.T. an artist.

-Doc

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