Lou <lou0...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I know what a herf is, but not how the term originated. Anyone know?
I don't want to gte on a rant here...
A newbie went out with some old timers. They were all sitting around talking cigars and stuff and tunring the newbie on to some really good smokes. Since the newbie was a newbie he continued to smoke stuff that was well beyond his capacity and at the end if the evening he stood up and said... "This was really a great... really a great... <pause> really a great..." and at this point he turned green and blew chunks and the sound he made was "hhhherrrrfffff" and thus was born the idea of having "really a great herf" with friends and talking cigars and stuff.
> I know what a herf is, but not how the term originated. Anyone know?
It used to mean smoking a joint. It sounded sophomoric enough in the old days. Ask 99.9% of cigar smokers what the dumbass word means, they will give you a blank stare, and then probably kick your sorry ass just for saying it.
> I know what a herf is, but not how the term originated. Anyone know?
Yup, it happened on Nov 21, 1996 - A quick search on google turned up the following explanation...
Subject: Re: Newbie Question!!!... What is "Herf"? Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:19:50 +0000 From: John Chunko <jchu...@catalogcorp.com> Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars
ReleifPchr wrote: > hi guys, > I know this may sound kinda stupid but WHAT THE HELL IS A HERF??? > thanks, -Matt
Most simply, "Herf" means to enjoy a cigar, usually by smoking it. However, it can get a bit more complex, for example... you can go to _a_ Herf, and not smoke a cigar, but still really enjoy the Herf.
That being said, here's a bigger picture...
HERF... to herf; herfing; herfers; the ASC Philly Herf; the Gellman Office Herf; Herfedor; Fart Nard Herfing; circle-herfs; herf-off; an after-dinner herf; the San Francisco Herf; Gentlemen, you may herf...
HERF - EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:
The un-official word of ASC is Herf. Herf is a unique part of speech. It can be correctly used as a noun, a verb, an adjective, an adverb, an infinitive, a prefix, a suffix and an explicative. The arcane word "herf" first entered the ASC lexicon on November 21, 1996, and was quickly elevated to frenetic and common use by ASCers. The Prince of Skeeves (aloys...@gte.net) exposed ASC to the word herf in a casual posting to the group... however it was ASCers, as a budding collective, who took the word and made it divine. Herf is now virulently spreading to worldwide common use as hip cigar parlance.
HERF - CHRONOLOGY:
As for the _origin_ of Herf, here's the History of Herf (it's a matter of record on DejaNews)...
> I bought a Canaria d'Oro(sic?)Robusto out of curiousity > and it was really a horrible, stale,grassy smoke with a > peed-on taste. I gave it about 2 inches before I put it > out. Also, anything Macanudo...I tried several when I > first began smoking cigars and found them all to be very > bland and almost impossible to herf, they were so tightly > wrapped. I think the list of `Mediocre Smokes' for most > folks would be huge.
> Subject: an early definition of the word... > From: aloys...@gte.net (Prince of Skeeves) > Date: 1997/07/11 > Message-ID: <5q5f19$df...@news12.gte.net> > Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars
> EVERYONE MUST HERF
> The first time I heard the word `herf' and recognized > it's potential for the enrichment of my vocabulary was > in junior college in Clyde, Texas in 1982 from a blueblood > derelict friend of my named Stu. In the context of the > time it was used to describe the ungainly and humorous > facial contortion required to deeply draw on a large, > hand-rolled cigarette of unknown filling while driving > a motor vehicle and keeping an eye peeled for the > Callahan County sheriff. Later I found the term `herf' > described nicely the method for getting a good mouthful > of tasty smoke from my favorite cigars.(Padron and HDM > Rothschilds)
So, that's the herf story... on 11/21/96 "Prince of Skeeves" (whoever he/she/it is/was) introduced our newsgroup to its very own beloved word...
And, as a bonus...
HERF LEVITY:
Herf... a word which is now spreading to virtually all corners of the cigar world... thanks to the likes of the many and varied distinguished herfing enthusiasts (herfnicks)... such as:
• the good Dr. Miguelit (used on his many national radio interviews), • Mr. Lew Rothman (used proudly and prominently on JR's Winter catalog issue's front cover, as well as the current cover of Smokeshop), • ASC elder Mr. Bob Curtis (used liberally all over the ICG website), • the Hon. Steven Saka (used strategically at least four times in the course of the 1997 New Hampshire state senatorial debate and once as an invective following the debate's broadcast, which, btw, was televised on CSPAN-3 to over a half-billion viewers worldwide, including the space shuttle mission crew), • Connie Whittager, perky weatherwoman on Montgomery, Alabama's WKKG-TV (used to describe the fog which paralyzed suburban roadways for two straight days in April 1997... in an interview on the Weather Channel, she explained, "...motorists were advised to avoid the western beltway and all lakeside arteries due to a stationary fog bank thicker than a hundred hounddogs herfin' Hondurans in a hayloft", and • by Jorge Jesus Delgado, Jr., now departed, (who ardently pleaded to "herf a cigar" before his execution in the Texas death-house in October 1997)...
...just to mention a few of the notables!
PS: Remember... November 21 is World Herfing Day!!!
Jack Daniel wrote: > "Lou" <lou0...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:%5wF8.533$vh.3317@nnrp.gol.com... > > I know what a herf is, but not how the term originated. Anyone know?
> "Lou" <lou0...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:%5wF8.533$vh.3317@nnrp.gol.com... > > I know what a herf is, but not how the term originated. Anyone know?
> Yup, it happened on Nov 21, 1996 - A quick search on google turned up the > following explanation...
There is another message on Google where it is first used on ASC. Chunko didn't invent it. First use of "herf" is thanks to Prince of Skeeves and Scott Martin in 1996:
Message 2 in thread From: Prince of Skeeves (aloys...@gte.net) Subject: Re: Herfing (was Re: worst cigars IMHO) Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars View this article only Date: 1996/11/23
In article <01bbd8ed$35ce9380$92e74ccf@scottm>, "Scott Martin"
<sco...@i1.net> wrote: >b...@cloud9.net wrote in article <572840$...@news.cloud9.net>... >> > aloys...@gte.net (Prince of Skeeves) writes: >> > I bought a Canaria d'Oro(sic?)Robusto out of curiousity and it was really a >> > horrible, stale,grassy smoke with a peed-on taste. I gave it about 2 inches >> > before I put it out. Also, anything Macanudo...I tried several when I first >> > began smoking cigars and found them all to be very bland and almost impossible >> > to herf, they were so tightly wrapped. >> > I think the list of `Mediocre Smokes' for most folks would be huge.
>> How do you herf a cigar?
>> ___________________________________________ >> Bob Granata (b...@cloud9.net) LHCT '96 Survivor >> "It takes a long time to understand nothing"
>When I posted my other reply to this post, my spellchecker highlighted >"herf" and suggested "herd" (as in sheep) as a replacement! Any connection >there?
To `herf' is to draw on a cigar. It's less vulgar than `suck' and not as misleading as `toke'. Especially when you're suffering through an impossibly tight smoke and you are glad no one is watching.
> Lou <lou0...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I know what a herf is, but not how the term originated. Anyone know?
> I don't want to gte on a rant here...
> A newbie went out with some old timers. They were all sitting around > talking cigars and stuff and tunring the newbie on to some really good > smokes. Since the newbie was a newbie he continued to smoke stuff that was > well beyond his capacity and at the end if the evening he stood up and > said... "This was really a great... really a great... <pause> really a > great..." and at this point he turned green and blew chunks and the sound > he made was "hhhherrrrfffff" and thus was born the idea of having > "really a great herf" with friends and talking cigars and stuff.
>> "Lou" <lou0...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:%5wF8.533$vh.3317@nnrp.gol.com... >> > I know what a herf is, but not how the term originated. Anyone know?
>> Yup, it happened on Nov 21, 1996 - A quick search on google turned up the >> following explanation...
>There is another message on Google where it is first used on ASC. Chunko >didn't invent it. First use of "herf" is thanks to Prince of Skeeves and >Scott Martin in 1996:
> There is another message on Google where it is first used on ASC. Chunko > didn't invent it. First use of "herf" is thanks to Prince of Skeeves and > Scott Martin in 1996:
Read the whole message you snipped, and you will see exactly what you just quoted.
Reading ability should be a requirement for usenet...
Senor Chunko's mistaken etymology for the word herf will not die, it seems.
I must reiterate that my use of the term "herf" predates that of the venerated but no longer active Prince of Skeeves. It was a response I made to a misspelling of the word "herd" in a reference to a certain well-known California sheep afficionado. Once again, I am robbed of my claim to fame by the fact that the DejaNews archives did not go back quite far enough.
A close reading of the Prince's post clearly indicates that he was familiar with the term rather than coining it. The first intentional use of the word 'herf' to refer to cigar smoking was in a post of mine (now lost) that quotes an earlier message referring to "herfing sheep."
>>I know what a herf is, but not how the term originated. Anyone know?
> Yup, it happened on Nov 21, 1996 - A quick search on google turned up the > following explanation...
> Subject: Re: Newbie Question!!!... What is "Herf"? > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:19:50 +0000 > From: John Chunko <jchu...@catalogcorp.com> > Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars
> ReleifPchr wrote:
>>hi guys, >>I know this may sound kinda stupid but WHAT THE HELL IS A HERF??? >>thanks, -Matt
> Most simply, "Herf" means to enjoy a cigar, usually by smoking it. > However, it can get a bit more complex, for example... you can go > to _a_ Herf, and not smoke a cigar, but still really enjoy the Herf.
> That being said, here's a bigger picture...
> HERF... to herf; herfing; herfers; the ASC Philly Herf; > the Gellman Office Herf; Herfedor; Fart Nard Herfing; > circle-herfs; herf-off; an after-dinner herf; > the San Francisco Herf; Gentlemen, you may herf...
> HERF - EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:
> The un-official word of ASC is Herf. Herf is a unique part > of speech. It can be correctly used as a noun, a verb, an > adjective, an adverb, an infinitive, a prefix, a suffix and > an explicative. The arcane word "herf" first entered the > ASC lexicon on November 21, 1996, and was quickly elevated > to frenetic and common use by ASCers. The Prince of Skeeves > (aloys...@gte.net) exposed ASC to the word herf in a casual > posting to the group... however it was ASCers, as a budding > collective, who took the word and made it divine. Herf is > now virulently spreading to worldwide common use as hip > cigar parlance.
> HERF - CHRONOLOGY:
> As for the _origin_ of Herf, here's the History of Herf > (it's a matter of record on DejaNews)...
>>I bought a Canaria d'Oro(sic?)Robusto out of curiousity >>and it was really a horrible, stale,grassy smoke with a >>peed-on taste. I gave it about 2 inches before I put it >>out. Also, anything Macanudo...I tried several when I >>first began smoking cigars and found them all to be very >>bland and almost impossible to herf, they were so tightly >>wrapped. I think the list of `Mediocre Smokes' for most >>folks would be huge.
> And, the voices of ASCers cry out immediately... > saying, "what is this _herf_ thing?"
> In answer... on November 23, Prince of Skeeves elucidates, > Message-ID: <5770op$...@news1.gte.net>:
> > To `herf' is to draw on a cigar.
> The voices of ASC follow in chorus: "this herf thing... it is good"
> And, in a grand gesture, full grace is shared...
>>Subject: an early definition of the word... >>From: aloys...@gte.net (Prince of Skeeves) >>Date: 1997/07/11 >>Message-ID: <5q5f19$df...@news12.gte.net> >>Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars
>> EVERYONE MUST HERF
>>The first time I heard the word `herf' and recognized >>it's potential for the enrichment of my vocabulary was >>in junior college in Clyde, Texas in 1982 from a blueblood >>derelict friend of my named Stu. In the context of the >>time it was used to describe the ungainly and humorous >>facial contortion required to deeply draw on a large, >>hand-rolled cigarette of unknown filling while driving >>a motor vehicle and keeping an eye peeled for the >>Callahan County sheriff. Later I found the term `herf' >>described nicely the method for getting a good mouthful >>of tasty smoke from my favorite cigars.(Padron and HDM >>Rothschilds)
> So, that's the herf story... on 11/21/96 "Prince of Skeeves" (whoever > he/she/it is/was) introduced our newsgroup to its very own beloved word...
> And, as a bonus...
> HERF LEVITY:
> Herf... a word which is now spreading to virtually all corners of the cigar > world... thanks to the likes of the many and varied distinguished herfing > enthusiasts (herfnicks)... such as:
> . the good Dr. Miguelit (used on his many national radio interviews), > . Mr. Lew Rothman (used proudly and prominently on JR's Winter > catalog issue's front cover, as well as the current cover of Smokeshop), > . ASC elder Mr. Bob Curtis (used liberally all over the ICG website), > . the Hon. Steven Saka (used strategically at least four times in the > course of the 1997 New Hampshire state senatorial debate and > once as an invective following the debate's broadcast, which, > btw, was televised on CSPAN-3 to over a half-billion viewers > worldwide, including the space shuttle mission crew), > . Connie Whittager, perky weatherwoman on Montgomery, Alabama's > WKKG-TV (used to describe the fog which paralyzed suburban > roadways for two straight days in April 1997... in an interview > on the Weather Channel, she explained, "...motorists were advised > to avoid the western beltway and all lakeside arteries due to a > stationary fog bank thicker than a hundred hounddogs herfin' > Hondurans in a hayloft", and > . by Jorge Jesus Delgado, Jr., now departed, (who ardently > pleaded to "herf a cigar" before his execution in the > Texas death-house in October 1997)...
> ...just to mention a few of the notables!
> PS: Remember... November 21 is World Herfing Day!!!
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