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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 23:30:19 GMT, James Aubuchon <norksq...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I am going to stick my skeptical nose into this thread.
>
>I have had numerous experiences over the years of apparent contact with 
>entities. I have approached these encounters with both open-mindedness 
>and a rational commitment to obtaining verification for all things 
>apparently commnicated to me. My skepticism may be due to my 
>conservative Christian upbringing, but what I am going to do is just lay 
>out the data, and let you decide for yourself.
>
>In 1992, my mother died in the living room of our home. I was away at 
>seminary, and before I could fly home, my dad had her body hauled away 
>to be cremated. My dad had an experience the next day where my mother 
>apparently made her presence known to him in the room. A few months 
>later, when we were moving my dad out of the house to Kansas City with 
>us, I thought I heard my mom in my mind calling to me to tell me not to 
>leave.
>
>Then I started having dreams about my mother. In one dream, my mother 
>crawled out of the ocean looking like a zombie. Then she was 
>reincarnated in a couple in Orange County, CA. There were sacred 
>markings on the new baby.
>
>However, after this I continued to have dreams where my mother appeared 
>to me to speak with me. One time, just a couple of months ago, she 
>appeared in a dream and asked me about an issue with her finger, and 
>what it was all about. When I was a baby, I walked into the kitchen one 
>day, and my mother had burned her finger on the stove. She turned to me 
>and showed me her finger, and I thought she was a monster. In the dream 
>she seemed to be asking me about the incident, but then she became 
>furious and pushed me backwards into a spike. I REALLY felt the spike. 
>It was weird.
>
>Now here is the crux of the problem. If my mother was reincarnated into 
>a family in Orange County in the early 90's, then how come I am still 
>having her aparently communicate with me from the other side?
>
>Of course you could say that these were just dreams, and I wouldn't 
>necessarily disagree with you, but they seemed to be something more. The 
>problem is that the whole experience does not make any sense.
>
>I have also "seemed" to channel a friend of mine (actually he was more 
>my brother's friend) named Bill Schubert. Bill had died in Ventura, CA 
>in 1995 in a flood. He was homeless at the time. A couple of days before 
>he died, I had a dream where I saw Bill sitting on a couch. He was 
>holding a gun, and had apparently shot himself. It was obvious that he 
>had messed himself up real bad. Then he took the gun and held it to his 
>head and killed himself. I believe that this might mean that Bill wanted 
>to die when the flood came, so he made no effort to evacuate, but I 
>don't know. I do know that when the news anounced that someone had died 
>in the flood, that it was definitely Bill.
>
>However, Bill started appearing to me in my dreams. At first he was 
>totally messed up, and I had to encourage him to "find God". He seemed 
>to listen to me, and in later dreams, he seemed better. Then I had a 
>dream were he was in the school of an oriental master, but had some sort 
>of strange "punishment contraption" on his face. Even later, I had an 
>experience where Bill appeared to me. When he found out that I was still 
>a Christian, he became concerned, and I guess was going to go and try to 
>"help me" somehow.
>
>I have had many lucid dreams. In one dream, I contacted my brother. When 
>I spoke to others in my lucid dream, they seemed dopey and lifeless, but 
>my brother seemed to "be there" and opened up all kinds of strange 
>vistas to show me around. However, when I spoke to my brother the next 
>day, he had not actually "been" there.
>
>In another lucid dream, I set about to determine whether I was actually 
>anywhere but inside my own mind. My conclusion based upon my 
>experimentation in the dream was that I had not truly entered "another 
>realm" but was simply forming a virtual reality matrix within my own head.
>
>So I have to remain deeply skeptical of all communications of this sort. 
>   I have had experiences that caused me to become delusional and 
>require medicine. Some of the stuff I read about this channeling 
>reminded me of my state of mind at the time. I set about to try to 
>verify what I had experienced over about a 2 week period in 2000, but I 
>came up empty. I was not really communicating with anyone. It was just 
>in my head. I only received one real verification of what did happen. 
>Someone verified to me that someone had cast a fertility spell on me. I 
>had not told them anything, but during that period, two of my 
>sister-in-laws and my wife's best friend from high school all became 
>pregnant. I had already suspected tha a spell had been cast. The reason 
>my wife didn't was because I had had a vasectomy. The energy bounced off 
>us onto the immediate family.
>
>So something was going on, but 99% of what I experienced seemed to be 
>total mental bullshit spewing out of my own brain...and some of it was 
>rather complex and seemed to be meaningful in some way...but then 
>psychosis always seems meaningful to the psychotic.
>
>I guess what I would like to know from these so-called communications is 
>what the result was. The information apparently communicated seemed like 
>your typical end of the world gibberish to me (and of course talk about 
>Jesus). People's bodies warping, and other things that sounded more like 
>fantasy than reality. I also noticed that the spirit never gave names. 
>All names were provided by the recipient (Bob Dobbs I imagine).
>
>So was this real, or a sincere fabrication from Glow's mind, or was Bob 
>just playing games with this girls head?
>
>Jim

The person who posts as "purple" is a moron, and makes this stuff up
to annoy people.

Really, no joke.

http://tinyurl.com/yqd8w



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