Re: A Marxist view of SubGenius
Fellow Citizen Fwap
<mod...@modemac.com> wrote:
>http://chaosmarxism.blogspot.com/2007/05/more-on-bob.html
>
>"The SubGenius Must Have Slack" translates to "The Lumpen-Creative
>Must Break Free of Alienation".
Marxists are a bit like $cientologists and scientists like
that. They've got their own, separate vocabulary which they
will use to describe everything they encounter.
What's a lumpy-creative again? I only read the norwegian
translations. No, I won't klick the link to find out. They
give me the creeps. Marixists, not links. They've stolen the
old Lutherans' fire, and it burns in their eyes and words
and hairy armpits.
...
sifu SODDI
"Fellow Citizen Fwap" <berg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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This will make it easier:
"More in "Bob" for a self-service described the foolish religion bogus, the
philosophy published of the church of SubGenius are sometimes breathtakingly
exact. Perhaps because it is Réal they, confused, attempt with deexpliquer
the world of the point of the sight "of the class lumpen-creativa" - the
people which see themselves as artists creativos they but are
temperamentally unsuited "join the conspiracy" (this is climbing the
staircase of the built-in realization) and they thus generally order the
choice between highly unreliable freelance work and a proletarian work.
Chapter 9 in its more recent book, SubGenius Psychlopaedia of the leave, is
really, I am correctly) a recapitulation confused but unmistakeable (and
involuntary of the theory marxist of the alienation. The leave nse can be
described like "the opposite of the stress", but also "the opposite of the
alienation". Work can be meant that hard in which you aprecía and believe
inside, only in such way how much can mean cartoons to pay of it attention
with a hamburger in a hand and a junction in the other. The false leave, in
the other hand, is defined as "anything you can buy for the money". More
uniform spookier whose that, pages 202-203 of this book - "art entitled,
Toolmaking and OCD" - is a recapitulation completely scary of this article
famous for Frederich Engels. In other words - the capitalism of the
conspiracy/enlève what in them makes the human being (the line to work
freely in which motivates in) and in them does not give in him rewards
anything but the money, which in them maintains beings alive but corrodes
that which in the paragraphs really do them. The costume that I am correctly
considerably dum ray that Ivan Stang never opened an original marxist in the
interest génuine in its whole life does not make this any more uniform
spookier. But this one is same the ranter which said "if they paid it what
you was worth the sorrow, they were with the bankruptcy". "o horizon event"
of the thought of SubGenius it is, naturally, its position very class of the
pettybourgeois, which completely leads to the conclusions pessimistic in the
possibility of organizing with overthrow "the conspiracy", in the absence of
the intervention of our brothers of space the men of planet X. The principal
point is that SubGeniuses is not supposed to even start longitudinally,
leaves work only joint - the consciousness alienated without the discipline
of proletarian returns of the practices of work to the individualism
paranoid to such extension which seems like the only natural form of the
human interaction. Thus end in bottom: it tries to press for except which
tiny crumbs of nourishment the psychic you can begin system, hangs for
outside with the other as of the spirit when you possibly can with being,
and emits more money with the church so that Stang does not have which a
work will begin and can be maintained deamuser. SubGenius must have the
leave "represented" the Lumpen-Creativa rupture of the free obligation of
the alienation ". The problem is naturally this Lúkacs was right, and the
end of the alienation comes only with the form from the trabalhador-conselho
from the organization - something that "the typical solitary nut" SubGenius
which works in its art or its music or its writing in splendid if the
insulation paranoid only cannot with grok."
nenslo
Modemac <mod...@modemac.com> wrote:
> http://chaosmarxism.blogspot.com/2007/05/more-on-bob.html
>
> "The SubGenius Must Have Slack" translates to "The Lumpen-Creative
> Must Break Free of Alienation".
Marxism is my third favorite religion.
Rev. Ivan Stang
> http://chaosmarxism.blogspot.com/2007/05/more-on-bob.html
>
> "The SubGenius Must Have Slack" translates to "The Lumpen-Creative
> Must Break Free of Alienation".
>
I just read that whole morass plus some of the older ones tagged
"Bob."
CREEEEEEPY!
Well, "Bob" predicted in BoSG that there would come various insane
Imabobs, lazy GimmeBobs and stupid PoserBobs who would insist that
they had the One True Interpretation, proving only that they'd MISSED
THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT BY A COUNTRY MILE. Like the Bible, the Wor is
good at fitting itself into the crevasses of ANY philosophy. This is
how it reproduces. Older cults, bee-like, and thinking us
"interesting," unwittingly carry our "sperm particles" from flower to
flower, so that the Wor can fertilize and mutate an ever wider variety
of species. Then, when it begins to sink in what they've done by
accident, they try to justify it by convincing themselves "Well, those
SubGeniuses were REALLY on OUR side all along, they just didn't know
it, since they're such po'buckers and most of them don't even have
college degrees." But by then it is too late.
The other day, I had the strange experience of reading somebody's
college master's thesis on The Church of the SubGenius, which tied
SubGenius (after the fact, of course) to all manner of ancient creaky
philosophies, art movements, psychology fads, etc. ... and that was
pretty spooky. But this is even spookier.
((shiver))
Must remember, however. They may be pinkos, but their money is green.
I wish I knew where the hell their interview with me came from. It's
me all right, I just don't recall which zine-terview that might have
been. Also I am pretty sure that one of the sentences attributed to me
is completely alien and unknown to me.
Luckily I have an email-terview to answer today that will wipe away
the depressing residue left in my brayyne after reading that self-
serving swill, because this new interview is of the "Bob"-serving
swill variety, and is TECHNICAL instead of philosophical. I know Philo
too well to have any real interest in philosophy. But the mechanics of
producing cool shit to read or watch or listen to, that's not just hot
air but USEFUL INFORMATION. So I am much happier to be answering
questions for GearWire, who want to know how our various home studios
have worked over the years, from 1/4" reel to reel to cassettes to
digital, and how the technical limitations and/or possibilities
influences the output. Good old, honest, sweat-soaked, dirt-farmer,
hands-on working-man questions.
Besides, to be a proper Marxist in the U.S. today, don't you have to
be, like, born rich? And THEN decide wealth is bad or something? That
was always my impression, but I'm just going by most of the Marxists
I've met in real life.
The website pundit was wrong. I have indeed read Marx and was schooled
in all that commie garbage in high school. (I went to an unusual high
school and later I spent some quality time in Beijing.) It's a great
idea for beehives, but I'm a primate so I've never thought it was a
workable idea for my species.
Pisces
> http://chaosmarxism.blogspot.com/2007/05/more-on-bob.html
>
> "The SubGenius Must Have Slack" translates to "The Lumpen-Creative
> Must Break Free of Alienation".
>
> The High Weirdness Project
> http://www.modemac.com
"I love my pipe, too, but I take it out of my mouth once in a while."
Rev. Ivan Stang
AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENS.
Ankara
OH NOES...I posted a comment there...and I am now a
REDBAITER!!
I really had no idea, but I am going to keep it!
--
Ankara
Taphouse Cabal
http://taphouse.org/
There is no cabal.
"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a motherfucker." -Zeppo
Ankara
> On 15 May 2007 08:10:45 -0700, Rev. Ivan Stang said unto the world:
> > On May 15, 11:08 am, Pisces <KVanH...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 14, 8:30 pm, Modemac <mode...@modemac.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >http://chaosmarxism.blogspot.com/2007/05/more-on-bob.html
> > >
> > > > "The SubGenius Must Have Slack" translates to "The Lumpen-Creative
> > > > Must Break Free of Alienation".
> > >
> > > > --
> > > > The High Weirdness Project
> > > > http://www.modemac.com
> > >
> > > "I love my pipe, too, but I take it out of my mouth once in a while."
> >
> > AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENS.
>
> OH NOES...I posted a comment there...and I am now a
> REDBAITER!!
> I really had no idea, but I am going to keep it!
>
>
--
Ankara: REDBAITER
Rev. Doloras LaPicho
won't be bounced if I ever manage to scrape together the money for X-
Day.
On the other hand, if I offend and creep out even Rev. Stang, surely
that's some kind of warped achievement?
Zapanaz
<dol...@randomstatic.net> wrote:
yeah that's never happened before
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
die beleidigte Leberwurst spielen - ("to play the insulted liver sausage")
Bernd Haug
Is your money still green?
nikolai kingsley
> Must remember, however. They may be pinkos, but their money is green.
actually, the Rooskies have really taken capitalism to heart, which is
why Moscow is currently run by about a dozen criminal gangs.
Rev. Ivan Stang
wrote:
Please understand. I have nothing against Marx. It's just MARXISM. The
fan clubs try to make it all so DEADLY SERIOUS, and that just ruins
the fun. The Zeppotistas especially.
Ankara
Ok, so somehow all this has begun to set off a 'blog-reaction'
the likes of which hasnt been seen since, uh, the one time that guy did
all that stuff.
Doloras's (how do you imply ownership in a name ending in 's'? I cant
remember....is it doloras's? or doloras' or doloraii) blog was noted by
our friend at technoccult (and magdalen supporter) here:
Then this in turn led to:
http://dehiscence.blogspot.com/
Where will it all end?!! IS NO ONE THINKING OF THE CHILDREN??
--
Ankara
Ankara
oh God!! has my bot been getting involved in political movements again?
BAD ZEPPO!! BAD!!
--
Ankara
sifu SODDI
"Ankara" <uh-...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20b50e6db...@news.east.cox.net...
> On 16 May 2007 09:04:22 -0700, Rev. Ivan Stang said unto the world:
>> On May 16, 1:53 am, "Rev. Doloras LaPicho" <dolo...@randomstatic.net>
>> wrote:
>> > Shit. I hope this means I'm still allowed to buy Church goods and I
>> > won't be bounced if I ever manage to scrape together the money for X-
>> > Day.
>> >
>> > On the other hand, if I offend and creep out even Rev. Stang, surely
>> > that's some kind of warped achievement?
>>
>> Please understand. I have nothing against Marx. It's just MARXISM. The
>> fan clubs try to make it all so DEADLY SERIOUS, and that just ruins
>> the fun. The Zeppotistas especially.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Ok, so somehow all this has begun to set off a 'blog-reaction'
> the likes of which hasnt been seen since, uh, the one time that guy did
> all that stuff.
> Doloras's (how do you imply ownership in a name ending in 's'? I cant
> remember....is it doloras's? or doloras' or doloraii) blog was noted by
> our friend at technoccult (and magdalen supporter) here:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2eyzpx
>
> Then this in turn led to:
>
> http://dehiscence.blogspot.com/
>
> Where will it all end?!! IS NO ONE THINKING OF THE CHILDREN??
>
Lumpy protoplasmions and podunkatarians shouldn't be posting to teh
Interwebs.
Steve Thompson
> On 15 May 2007 22:53:26 -0700, "Rev. Doloras LaPicho"
> <dol...@randomstatic.net> wrote:
>
> >Shit. I hope this means I'm still allowed to buy Church goods and I
> >won't be bounced if I ever manage to scrape together the money for X-
> >Day.
> >
> >On the other hand, if I offend and creep out even Rev. Stang, surely
> >that's some kind of warped achievement?
> >
>
> yeah that's never happened before
Your ideological bias to things Christian is showing. Hint: It is
primarily Christians who find things that have never happened before to be
of general significance. One assumes this is because the Bible purports
to describe a world of thought and action that is metaphorically complete.
Regards,
Steve
sifu SODDI
"Steve Thompson" <steve...@yahoo.ca.ca> wrote in message
news:7f1ab6c...@nntp.myofb.org...
Thanks for another useless non sequitur.
Are you a bot?
Ankara
um...WHAT?
You must be new here (or stupid)
Either way, what you said makes no sense, mostly because you have no
idea whats going on.
Protip: This thread has nothing whatsoever to do with christianity
and you miss irony when it really matters.
--
Ankara
Ankara
That may be true, but it would be so much less entertaining without
them.
Rev. G.G. Willikers
Steve Thompson
Oh, you are so welcome.
> Are you a bot?
Yup.
Regards,
Steve
Steve Thompson
> On 17 May 2007 00:32:08 GMT, Steve Thompson said unto the world:
> > On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:20:42PM -0700, wrote:
> > > On 15 May 2007 22:53:26 -0700, "Rev. Doloras LaPicho"
> > > <dol...@randomstatic.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Shit. I hope this means I'm still allowed to buy Church goods and I
> > > >won't be bounced if I ever manage to scrape together the money for X-
> > > >Day.
> > > >
> > > >On the other hand, if I offend and creep out even Rev. Stang, surely
> > > >that's some kind of warped achievement?
> > > >
> > >
> > > yeah that's never happened before
> >
> > Your ideological bias to things Christian is showing. Hint: It is
> > primarily Christians who find things that have never happened before to be
> > of general significance. One assumes this is because the Bible purports
> > to describe a world of thought and action that is metaphorically complete.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
>
> um...WHAT?
> You must be new here (or stupid)
> Either way, what you said makes no sense, mostly because you have no
> idea whats going on.
> Protip: This thread has nothing whatsoever to do with christianity
> and you miss irony when it really matters.
Sorry, mu bullshit quota for this week is exhausted. Try again in a few
days.
Regards,
Steve
Rev. Ivan Stang
> On 16 May 2007 09:04:22 -0700, Rev. Ivan Stang said unto the world:
>
> > Please understand. I have nothing against Marx. It's just MARXISM. The
> > fan clubs try to make it all so DEADLY SERIOUS, and that just ruins
> > the fun. The Zeppotistas especially.
>
> Ok, so somehow all this has begun to set off a 'blog-reaction'
> the likes of which hasnt been seen since, uh, the one time that guy did
> all that stuff.
> Doloras's (how do you imply ownership in a name ending in 's'? I cant
> remember....is it doloras's? or doloras' or doloraii) blog was noted by
> our friend at technoccult (and magdalen supporter) here:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2eyzpx
>
> Then this in turn led to:
>
> http://dehiscence.blogspot.com/
>
> Where will it all end?!! IS NO ONE THINKING OF THE CHILDREN??
>
>From a quick skim of the various blogs, it appears this is the first
time most of their essays have gotten ANY comments, period. I'd be
pretty worked up, too. It's interesting to see how seriously the
serious thinkers of the world take SubGenius, though. But I suppose
really serious thinkers would HAVE to take it that way.
((Shakes head sadly.))
Zapanaz
wrote:
>IS NO ONE THINKING OF THE CHILDREN??
the pedophiles?
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Here at Microsoft, drive head contention is more than just our promise to you.
It's a way of life.
The Rev. Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel
Don't take anything seriously, ever. Especially the imprtant stuff.
Thats how people end up getting run over by tanks.
But whatever.
--
C.
The Rev. Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel
> Doloras's (how do you imply ownership in a name ending in 's'? I cant
> remember....is it doloras's? or doloras' or doloraii)
Doloras'
>
> http://dehiscence.blogspot.com/
>
Um.
For sheer vitriol and cheerful hate, this is ten times better than
Stang or any of his metoos have ever done.
> Where will it all end?!! IS NO ONE THINKING OF THE CHILDREN??
Yo Momma.
--
C.
sifu SODDI
"The Rev. Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel" <chaos_...@antisocial.com> wrote in
message news:1179705810....@b40g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On May 16, 9:50 am, Ankara <uh-...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>> Doloras's (how do you imply ownership in a name ending in 's'? I cant
>> remember....is it doloras's? or doloras' or doloraii)
>
> Doloras'
>
>>
>> http://dehiscence.blogspot.com/
>>
>
> Um.
>
> For sheer vitriol and cheerful hate, this is ten times better than
> Stang or any of his metoos have ever done.
That's because your average Bobby is a revisionist running dog lackey of
imperialistic capitalism.