youtube video: Thirty One Factors for Scientologists to Consider
Jonathon Barbera
youtube video: Thirty One Factors for Scientologists to Consider
Obi Wan SODDI
both feet, both of somebody else's hands and someone's dick
Eldon
wrote:
> youtube video: Thirty One Factors for Scientologists to Consider
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh8l_6UlSmY
Poor, poor stupid Ron. Such a noble benefactor of humanity, yet
somehow so gullible that he allowed David Miscavige to pervert his
great accomplishments....
Poor, poor gullible Marty Rathbun. What a dumbassed victim to remain
in Scientology for more than twenty years after the Miscavige coup,
loyally assisting in the crimes and abuses perpetrated by the
asthmatic dwarf.
What an incredible line of bullshit his 31 points are. He is nearly as
deluded as the woman who claims to be the wife of his predecessor/
doppelganger.
Richard Ford
I thought that it was a particularly dull Star Wars sequil.
Governor Rocknar
wrote:
> youtube video: Thirty One Factors for Scientologists to Consider
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh8l_6UlSmY
Factor 32 - You're a moron for crossposting this.
XENU TEABAGS JOHN TRAVOLTA!
Jonathon Barbera
One
Scientology has been taken over by a self-appointed dictator, David
Miscavige, who has turned the Creed of the Church of Scientology, the
Code of a Scientologist, and the Credo of a True Group Member on their
heads and instituted the virtual practice of Reverse (Black)
Dianetics.
Two
In his quest to attain power Miscavige forcibly removed no less than
four Hubbard appointed executives senior to himself, and dozens of
Scientologists who had created scores of huge, effective Scientology
centers. Miscavige used threat of force and violence in clearing the
path to control of all Scientology organizations and assumed the
self-created position of Chairman of the Board. He was never assigned
by Hubbard and holds a position that was not created by Hubbard.
Three
Since securing his position of power, the statistics of Scientology
have steadily decreased in spite of Miscavige's public proclamations
to the contrary.
Four
Miscavige has conducted a campaign to fortify his personal power by
denigrating and de-powering anyone who personally knew and worked with
Hubbard. That includes, but is not limited to, the members of
Hubbard's family. The operation served to consolidate his personal
power while immeasurably harming the vigor and image of Scientology.
Five
Miscavige accomplished his coup by commandeering the only line of
communication to Hubbard during the last five years of his life,
plying Hubbard with embellished and false reports of a dangerous
environment to keep him out of communication with Sea Org members and
his family. The reports falsely accused Hubbard's family and lifelong
friends of selling out to the enemy and that Scientology orgs had been
infiltrated by psychiatric and government interests. He prevented true
reports from reaching Hubbard in order to make his actions appear
necessary and on policy and to solidify his position.
Six
Miscavige has persuaded those at the top of the Scientology
organization that to disclose the secrets of his unconscionable acts
would harm the religion and violate �the greatest good for the
greatest number of dynamics.� Thus, the truth of what goes on behind
the fa�ade of false PR that Miscavige creates is hidden from the vast
majority of Scientologists and the general public.
Seven
Miscavige uses �confessions� of Scientology managers (obtained under
duress or by coercion) to invalidate, castigate, and embarrass them
into acquiescence and silence.
Eight
Sea Org members who voice or even hint at any hesitation to carrying
on with his tyranny or supporting his actions, are routinely
physically beaten by Miscavige.?
Nine
Those Sea Org members who have attempted to correct Miscavige's
off-policy and out-tech actions have been subjected to belittlement,
invalidation and false propaganda. They have been silenced through
imprisonment and mental and physical duress.
Ten
Miscavige's abuse of Scientology executives and staff became so
extreme and continuous, he resorted to locking all of CMO INT and Exec
Strata into a building and called the prison �the Hole� and �SP Hall.�
RTC, CMO/WDC, Gold, IAS, CST, OSA Int and ASI executives and staff
have regularly been deposited in the Hole and subjected to Reverse
Dianetics, including physical beatings and severe mental abuse for
months or even years at a time.
Eleven
Miscavige has run a continuous propaganda campaign attempting to
besmirch the good name of L Ron Hubbard. He has consistently given
little interest and funds for defending public relations attacks on
Hubbard. Conversely, when Miscavige's abuses come under scrutiny by
the media or on the Internet Miscavige spares no money in attempting
to destroy the reputations and lives of anyone with the temerity to
discuss Miscavige's conduct. Miscavige's operations against �critics�
include violations of the right to privacy, intimidation,
investigations for perceived weaknesses then ruthless exploitation of
them, propaganda campaigns, interference with contractual and personal
relations, black bag jobs and blackmail. To exacerbate his atrocities,
Miscavige justifies his conduct by pointing to some anachronistic
Hubbard policy intended to deal with real attacks from the fifties and
sixties. Thus, Miscavige perpetuates the notion Hubbard is somehow
responsible for his own crimes. He routinely cites alleged things
Hubbard once said (in violation of the first policy letter every
Scientologist reads when exploring the subject) to justify his
brutality against executives and staff members.
Twelve
Miscavige has created a multi-hundred million dollar slush fund called
the IAS. For twenty five years it has collected inestimable funds from
Scientologists under false pretenses. The IAS has used scare tactics
to extract �donations� to �save� the Church from attacks. Meanwhile,
Miscavige prohibited IAS from disbursing funds to handle most of those
attacks. On numerous occasions, Miscavige and IAS have given
Scientology public the false impression IAS was spending tens of
millions to sponsor �dissemination campaigns,� while in fact only
funding a few ads for a very limited run, until the next campaign was
devised. Conversely, the IAS has disbursed exorbitant amounts for
Miscavige's personal vacations � including many Caribbean diving trips
and a five star tour of Scotland (including cases of sampled Scotch
being shipped to Miscavige's residence afterward). When IAS
executives balked at Miscavige�s actions, he feigned surprise about
the extravagances and had President IAS escorted to the Int base, and
locked her up in the Hole for behavior modification.
Thirteen
Miscavige has turned the top end of the Bridge into a dead end: First,
he has programmed the Advanced Organizations, including the FSO, to
regularly security check pre-O.T.s, and then use their confessions to
coerce them into paying more money for atonement, a practice not
unlike the Medieval Catholic Church selling indulgences. Second, he
has imposed an unwritten code of behavior amongst O.T.s. They are
regularly made to conform to correct dress, language, political
thought, and even ideas as to how to use their personal time. Said
practice is anathema to the very purpose of Scientology, which is to
make a person more his- or herself, more insouciant and independent
thinking. Third, Miscavige has entered arbitrary �contribution as a
Scientologist� requirements mid-levels which can be satisfied by
making cash �donations.� Fourth, Miscavige requires pre-OTs to attend
his regular propaganda events (see Factors 22 and 23) and are treated
as ethics bait until they enthusiastically embrace his projected
public image. This enforced acceptance of falsehood makes attainment
of OT technically impossible. Thus, Scientology, as practiced in
Miscavige's orgs, is auditing one toward conformity, solidity, lies;
in other words, down the tone scale, or, the precise opposite
direction to the intended aim of auditing.
Fourteen
Miscavige's �Ideal Org� strategy has wasted hundreds of millions of
dollars of Scientologists� donations to forward an entirely off-policy
action. Hubbard's Ideal Org policy letter says nothing about building
posh quarters. A plethora of Hubbard Policy condemns Miscavige's
�straight up and vertical� method of building an org. Subsidies,
particularly those extracted from the public under pressure, to build
posh quarters are strictly forbidden by Hubbard policy. Hubbard
advised that orgs be built from the bottom up by the elbow grease of
local Scientologists, flanked by international management broad public
promotion campaigns, growing their quarters only as they expand their
delivery and income. Miscavige has hoodwinked Scientology public with
the equivalent of a Ponzi scheme, shuttling staff around the world to
pose at new �Ideal Org� openings for photo ops, many of whom are then
shuttled off to some other org or soon leave for lack of pay.
Regardless of the poshness of their quarters, Miscavige's orgs are
doomed to failure (and the failures are legion) because Miscavige has
for years forcibly prevented Scientology management from implementing
LRH advised pricing formulas to make Scientology affordable to working
people, org finance systems that encourage orgs to survive and expand,
and staff pay systems that make it viable for productive people to
work on staff.
Fifteen
Miscavige's alteration of confessional (FPRD) technology to, in
effect, cancel Hubbard's fundamental principle that a being can and
does make undesirable mental mass and energy disappear by directed
attention alone has caused innumerable Scientologists to regress on
their paths to spiritual freedom. He has converted a powerful
spiritual technology into a tool with which to enforce conformity.
Sixteen
Miscavige's use of the technology of suppression to impose suppression
rather than to accomplish its original opposite purpose, has
suppressed countless Scientologists and divided many families.
Seventeen
Miscavige has perverted the practice of disconnection from a voluntary
tool one may use to improve one's life into a mandatory control
mechanism. He uses the practice to suppress the free flow of vital,
truthful information and to keep individuals toeing the line through
threat of losing their loved ones, rather than as a tool to de-power
actual suppression.
Eighteen
Miscavige's refusal to allow the entire International Base Crew
(including RTC, Watchdog Committee, CMO INT, Executive Strata and
Gold) to apply Ethics formulas to rise out of conditions he
arbitrarily imposed is a Scientology High Crime. Miscavige has kept
the international managers of Scientology in the lowest ethics
conditions continuously for nearly two decades by imposing arbitrary
requirements for upgrade nowhere covered in policy.
Nineteen
The practice of ordering divorces based solely on Miscavige�s opinion
of the spouse, or the fact that he or she is in a different church
organization than his or her spouse is antithetical to the concept
that true survival can only be attained across all dynamics.
Twenty
Miscavige's arbitrary policy that makes conceiving a child a crime
warranting offload from the Sea Org is contrary to Hubbard policy. It
has also spawned a policy that has required countless women to obtain
abortions.
Twenty-One
Miscavige's practice of verbally declaring Scientology staff members
suppressive persons while leaving them on posts that affect
international Scientology is suppressive to Scientology and
Scientologists.
Twenty-Two
Miscavige has co-opted Scientology�s multi-million dollar audio/visual
production facility and its several hundred Golden Era Productions
staff for the purpose of forwarding his own image and power through
Scientology events. He has cross ordered hundreds of Hubbard advised
dissemination films and marketing campaigns. This is done under the
guise of the importance of international events, yet such events
proscribed by LRH policy. Millions of dollars are spent on these
events in order to showcase Miscavige to further secure his power.
Twenty-Three
Miscavige puts on international events that intentionally misrepresent
the true state of Scientology. Statistics are manipulated and
falsified, video scenes are created that are palmed off as reality and
campaigns are routinely unveiled with great fanfare but exist only for
the purpose of being announced at the event. The manipulation of truth
is skilled and extensive and designed for the purpose of making
Miscavige look good. Scientologists wonder at the incredible figures
presented on the number of new people coming into Scientology every
second, minute, day, week, year, or the incredible reach of people
being contacted or the vast numbers of officials and Opinion Leaders
who fully support Scientology -- yet their local church organizations
show no sign of this massive and unrelenting growth. Scientologists
who retain enough sanity to spot the contrary facts must suppress such
rational thoughts for those who complain are subject to heavy ethics
and, if they persist in expressing doubts, expulsion.
Twenty-Four
Miscavige has cross ordered production of the authorized LRH
biography. The hired LRH Biographer, who has been paid hundreds of
thousands of dollars, instead has worked almost exclusively for nearly
two decades on writing speeches for Miscavige.
Twenty-Five
It is policy to never use lies in PR. Yet Miscavige has repeatedly
lied, and directed others to lie, when confronted with facts
concerning his unethical, abusive behavior.
Twenty-Six
Miscavige has personally enriched himself, living a far more lavish
lifestyle than L. Ron Hubbard ever lived, though Hubbard had earned
his fortune through his own writings. Miscavige has (by the standards
of the Sea Organization) lavish living quarters in various cities
complete with chefs and maids, owns or is provided expensive cars and
motorcycles, flies exclusively in private jets, has his hairdresser
and chiropractor travel around the world with him, and receives
compensation that is far, far in excess of any other person on
Scientology staff.
Twenty-Seven
Miscavige has enforced an unwritten policy within the Church that his
word has become more important than the words of the Founder. Church
staff routinely follow the dictates of Miscavige that are directly at
odds with LRH policy. His utterances are recorded and transcribed and
distributed to staff. He changes the technology of L. Ron Hubbard
under the guise of �getting it on Source� and using hidden data lines
about what LRH wanted. Miscavige has gradually established himself as
the new Source.
Twenty-Eight
Many veteran Sea Org members have been RPF'd, imprisoned in the Hole,
beaten and declared by Miscavige for having the temerity to object to
Miscavige cross ordering Hubbard policy.
Twenty-Nine
Miscavige spent over seventy million dollars in Scientologists�
donations for an office building for himself and his personal support
staff. Miscavige constantly altered orders for the building during
construction, many times to upgrade material and finishes to the most
expensive available, ordering the removal and destruction of what had
been originally installed. Such profligate spending is contrary to
countless finance policies of Hubbard, who was always extremely frugal
in the spending of Church donations.
Thirty
Miscavige has created orgs that are the reverse of the islands of
succor that Hubbard built during his life and directed be duplicated
in his written policies. Prior to Miscavige's Scientology, orgs were
lively, creative, safe spaces where people congregated to share their
spiritual experiences. Orgs are now places to avoid for fear of
falling victim to crush regging, heavy ethics and behavior
modification.
Thirty-One
Miscavige's out ethics has gone unchecked for so long that his
behavior has become extremely depraved. In recent years he has
directed the org that LRH formed to assure the ethical practice of the
religion, RTC, to literally pimp and pander for his movie star
friends. A number of women have been unwittingly lured into this
scheme by being told they were working on a very important project to
forward the aims of Scientology. In reality, Miscavige arranged dates
with them for his personal friends. This activity was kept secret by
violation of the integrity and security of Scientologists'
confessionals, threats, intimidation, and the attempted division of
families.
Those who have attempted to put ethics in on Miscavige from within
have been ruined personally by Miscavige. Scientology is valuable to
the many when studied and practiced in a sane environment. To allow
it to be destroyed by the driven greed of a sociopath would be to
condone a travesty.
Scientology practiced in accordance with Hubbard's Code of a
Scientologist, Credo of a True Group Member, and the Creed of the
Church can contribute something vital to society.
While Miscavige and his minions will no doubt claw, harass, and sue
until the end to protect his fiefdom, it would well behoove all
Scientologists to re-familiarize themselves with the Church's creed:
�We of the Church believe... That all men have inalienable rights to
think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and
to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others�, and,
�...that no agency less than God has the power to suspend or set aside
these rights, overtly or covertly.�
Fwap
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:32:15 -0400, "Obi Wan SODDI"
> <smo...@mirror.com> wrote:
>
>> The only way scientologists can count to thirty-one is by using both hands,
>> both feet, both of somebody else's hands and someone's dick
...
> Thirty-One
...
So, who let you have a borrow of his dick?
...
Zapanaz
One factor for Scientologists to consider
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/063/RipOff0063321.htm
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scientology&defid=1590861
--
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International Satanic Conspiracy
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Jonathon Barbera
wrote:
"Bob" is a closet Scientologist.
Jonathon Barbera
<http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl?foo=@mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:56:17 -0700, Jonathon Barbera
><jonatho...@ispname.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>youtube video: Thirty One Factors for Scientologists to Consider
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh8l_6UlSmY
>
>One factor for Scientologists to consider
>
Tater Gumfries
wrote:
>Those who have attempted to put ethics in on Miscavige from within
>have been ruined personally by Miscavige. Scientology is valuable to
>the many when studied and practiced in a sane environment. To allow
>it to be destroyed by the driven greed of a sociopath would be to
>condone a travesty.
>Scientology practiced in accordance with Hubbard's Code of a
>Scientologist, Credo of a True Group Member, and the Creed of the
>Church can contribute something vital to society.
>While Miscavige and his minions will no doubt claw, harass, and sue
>until the end to protect his fiefdom, it would well behoove all
>Scientologists to re-familiarize themselves with the Church's creed:
>“We of the Church believe... That all men have inalienable rights to
>think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and
>to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others”, and,
>“...that no agency less than God has the power to suspend or set aside
>these rights, overtly or covertly.”
You sure about that? Cause you could cause a ruckus.
Tater
Jonathon Barbera
High-ranking defectors provide an unprecedented inside look at the
Church of Scientology and its leader, David Miscavige.
http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/reports/project/
ABOUT THIS SPECIAL REPORT ON SCIENTOLOGY: Mark C. "Marty" Rathbun left
the Church of Scientology staff in late 2004, ending a 27-year career
that saw him rise to be a top lieutenant to Miscavige in the
organization. For the past four years, he has lived a low-profile life
in Texas. Some speculated he had died.
In February, Rathbun posted an Internet message announcing he was
available to counsel other disaffected Scientologists.
"Having dug myself out of the dark pit where many who leave the church
land," he wrote, "I began lending a hand to others similarly
situated."
Contacted by the St. Petersburg Times, Rathbun agreed to tell the
story of his years in Scientology and what led to his leaving. The
Times interviewed him at his home in Texas, and he came to Clearwater
to revisit some of the scenes he described.
Seeking to corroborate Rathbun's story, the newspaper contacted others
who were in Scientology during the same period and have left the
church: Mike Rinder, one of Rathbun's closest associates for two
decades; Tom De Vocht, who Rathbun named as key to his decision to
leave; and later, Amy Scobee.
Rathbun and Rinder were well known to the reporters, who had
interviewed them dozens of times, sometimes combatively, through years
of controversy in Clearwater. They also hosted the reporters in Los
Angeles in 1998, when Miscavige granted the only print media interview
he has given.
Two reporters met Rinder in Denver, where he now lives, but he
declined to be interviewed. About a month later, two Washington-based
lawyers who work for the church showed up unannounced in Denver,
informed Rinder that they had heard about the newspaper's visit and
asked what he had revealed.
They reminded him that as one of the church's top legal officers,
attorney-client privilege did not end when he left the church. They
told him he could hurt the church by going public.
Weeks later, after the church provided the newspaper with a 2007 video
of Rinder heatedly denying that Miscavige hit him and others, Rinder
decided to talk to the Times.
De Vocht was interviewed in Winter Haven. Scobee was interviewed in
Pinellas County, when she and her husband came to visit relatives.
The reporters interviewed the four defectors multiple times, and met
with church spokesmen and lawyers for 25 hours.
Governor Rocknar
wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:34:31 +0200, Fwap <explodingju...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Jonathon Barbera skreiv:
> >> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:32:15 -0400, "Obi Wan SODDI"
> >> <smok...@mirror.com> wrote:
>
> >>> The only way scientologists can count to thirty-one is by using both hands,
> >>> both feet, both of somebody else's hands and someone's dick
>
> >...
>
> >> Thirty-One
>
> >...
>
> >So, who let you have a borrow of his dick?
>
> >...
>
> "Bob" is a closet Scientologist.
L. Ron Hubbard is a closet SubGenius.
Zapanaz
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/063/RipOff0063321.htm
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scientology&defid=1590861
>While Miscavige and his minions will no doubt claw, harass, and sue
>until the end to protect his fiefdom
Nobody gives a crap about that but Scientologists, and they're all
nutbags.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Currently listening to a version of Jim Morrison & The Doors during
Hour of Slack -- "They are friendly people. And by far are more
advanced physically and spiritually than the people of this planet.
At the present time, they are observing us. They wish to help us help
ourselves to obtain a higher understanding of life and its
meaning..." Particle beams to the head of everyone that doesn't know
"Bob" OMG!
- schizobeck
:: Currently listening to La Gazza Ladra, 1817, by Rossini, from "Rossini Overtures"
Jonathon Barbera
You can be right.
Chrystal Munsch
wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:31:28 -0700, Zapanaz
>
>
> read more »
Uh, Excuse Me, but we are suppossed to be UPSET that a fanatical,
money-driven, worthless, sack o' shit mind-fuck cruel joke of a cult
has become even MORE of a fanatical, money-driven, worthless, sack o'
shit mind-fuck cruel joke of a cult?
Evergreen
[delete]
I don't understand why this was crossposted to
alt.religion.wicca.
We have no interest in scientology, which anyone
can see by checking out the group. Nor, from what
I little I know about it, are there any similarities
between wicca and scientology.
So this Jonathon Barbera fellow has a loose screw
or two.
My only experience with scientology was at some
kind of street fair where I somehow found myself
taking a supposed "personality test", which was
lame and obviously no more than a ploy to get
people into their 'church' and the clutches
of their more sophisticated sales people.
I asked them how many people passed their
"personality test", and got a blank stare.
Obviously, no one does, because it's a
scam.
So what you are dealing with is a very
deceptive and manipulative organization
that I'd advise people to stay away from.
Sid
--
Sidney Lambe
Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
>
>
> So this Jonathon Barbera fellow has a loose screw
> or two.
*chuckle* Oh the irony!
>
> So what you are dealing with is a very
> deceptive and manipulative organization
> that I'd advise people to stay away from.
>
> Sid
All writing is autobiographical. "Sid" merely describes the reason he is
a joke here, there and everywhere he chooses to inflict his verbosity on.
--
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky/files/sf_anthem.mp3
Father Haskell
wrote:
> youtube video: Thirty One Factors for Scientologists to Consider
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh8l_6UlSmY
Make that 32 factors:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy3IkXrgv3I
Rev. Tom Sane
wrote:
> youtube video: Thirty One Factors for Scientologists to Consider
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh8l_6UlSmY
Did you think this up at Baskin Robbins?
Fwap
> Evergreen wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> So this Jonathon Barbera fellow has a loose screw
>> or two.
>
>
> *chuckle* Oh the irony!
>
>>
>> So what you are dealing with is a very
>> deceptive and manipulative organization
>> that I'd advise people to stay away from.
>>
>> Sid
>
> All writing is autobiographical. "Sid" merely describes the reason he is
> a joke here, there and everywhere he chooses to inflict his verbosity on.
Oh! Oh! Athame fight!
...
Obi Wan SODDI
"Chrystal Munsch" <chryst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:77865f8e-ec79-4225...@p36g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> greatest number of dynamics.� Thus, the truth of what goes on behind
> the fa�ade of false PR that Miscavige creates is hidden from the vast
> majority of Scientologists and the general public.
>
> Seven
>
> duress or by coercion) to invalidate, castigate, and embarrass them
> into acquiescence and silence.
>
> Eight
>
> Sea Org members who voice or even hint at any hesitation to carrying
> on with his tyranny or supporting his actions, are routinely
> physically beaten by Miscavige.?
>
> Nine
>
> Those Sea Org members who have attempted to correct Miscavige's
> off-policy and out-tech actions have been subjected to belittlement,
> invalidation and false propaganda. They have been silenced through
> imprisonment and mental and physical duress.
>
> Ten
>
> Miscavige's abuse of Scientology executives and staff became so
> extreme and continuous, he resorted to locking all of CMO INT and Exec
> RTC, CMO/WDC, Gold, IAS, CST, OSA Int and ASI executives and staff
> have regularly been deposited in the Hole and subjected to Reverse
> Dianetics, including physical beatings and severe mental abuse for
> months or even years at a time.
>
> Eleven
>
> Miscavige has run a continuous propaganda campaign attempting to
> besmirch the good name of L Ron Hubbard. He has consistently given
> little interest and funds for defending public relations attacks on
> Hubbard. Conversely, when Miscavige's abuses come under scrutiny by
> the media or on the Internet Miscavige spares no money in attempting
> to destroy the reputations and lives of anyone with the temerity to
> include violations of the right to privacy, intimidation,
> investigations for perceived weaknesses then ruthless exploitation of
> them, propaganda campaigns, interference with contractual and personal
> relations, black bag jobs and blackmail. To exacerbate his atrocities,
> Miscavige justifies his conduct by pointing to some anachronistic
> Hubbard policy intended to deal with real attacks from the fifties and
> sixties. Thus, Miscavige perpetuates the notion Hubbard is somehow
> responsible for his own crimes. He routinely cites alleged things
> Hubbard once said (in violation of the first policy letter every
> Scientologist reads when exploring the subject) to justify his
> brutality against executives and staff members.
>
> Twelve
>
> Miscavige has created a multi-hundred million dollar slush fund called
> the IAS. For twenty five years it has collected inestimable funds from
> Scientologists under false pretenses. The IAS has used scare tactics
> Miscavige prohibited IAS from disbursing funds to handle most of those
> attacks. On numerous occasions, Miscavige and IAS have given
> Scientology public the false impression IAS was spending tens of
> funding a few ads for a very limited run, until the next campaign was
> devised. Conversely, the IAS has disbursed exorbitant amounts for
> and a five star tour of Scotland (including cases of sampled Scotch
> being shipped to Miscavige's residence afterward). When IAS
> the extravagances and had President IAS escorted to the Int base, and
> locked her up in the Hole for behavior modification.
>
> Thirteen
>
> Miscavige has turned the top end of the Bridge into a dead end: First,
> he has programmed the Advanced Organizations, including the FSO, to
> regularly security check pre-O.T.s, and then use their confessions to
> coerce them into paying more money for atonement, a practice not
> unlike the Medieval Catholic Church selling indulgences. Second, he
> has imposed an unwritten code of behavior amongst O.T.s. They are
> regularly made to conform to correct dress, language, political
> thought, and even ideas as to how to use their personal time. Said
> practice is anathema to the very purpose of Scientology, which is to
> make a person more his- or herself, more insouciant and independent
> Scientologist� requirements mid-levels which can be satisfied by
> making cash �donations.� Fourth, Miscavige requires pre-OTs to attend
> his regular propaganda events (see Factors 22 and 23) and are treated
> as ethics bait until they enthusiastically embrace his projected
> public image. This enforced acceptance of falsehood makes attainment
> of OT technically impossible. Thus, Scientology, as practiced in
> Miscavige's orgs, is auditing one toward conformity, solidity, lies;
> in other words, down the tone scale, or, the precise opposite
> direction to the intended aim of auditing.
>
> Fourteen
>
> dollars of Scientologists� donations to forward an entirely off-policy
> action. Hubbard's Ideal Org policy letter says nothing about building
> posh quarters. A plethora of Hubbard Policy condemns Miscavige's
> particularly those extracted from the public under pressure, to build
> posh quarters are strictly forbidden by Hubbard policy. Hubbard
> advised that orgs be built from the bottom up by the elbow grease of
> local Scientologists, flanked by international management broad public
> promotion campaigns, growing their quarters only as they expand their
> delivery and income. Miscavige has hoodwinked Scientology public with
> the equivalent of a Ponzi scheme, shuttling staff around the world to
>Uh, Excuse Me, but we are suppossed to be UPSET that a fanatical,
>money-driven, worthless, sack o' shit mind-fuck cruel joke of a cult
>has become even MORE of a fanatical, money-driven, worthless, sack o'
>shit mind-fuck cruel joke of a cult?
Pardon me, but exactly WHICH fanatical, money-driven, worthless, sack o'
shit mind-fuck cruel joke of a cult are you referring to?
WE are the one with smiling lucky money pipe head man.
That other cult - well, I don't think they smile much.
Evergreen
> Evergreen wrote:
>
>
>
>> So this Jonathon Barbera fellow has a loose screw or two.
>
>
> *chuckle* Oh the irony!
>
>
>> So what you are dealing with is a very deceptive and
>> manipulative organization that I'd advise people to stay away
>> from.
>>
>> Sid
>
> All writing is autobiographical. "Sid" merely describes the
> reason he is a joke here, there and everywhere he chooses to
> inflict his verbosity on. --
>
> Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Ooooh.Good one.Very nasty.
Your only problem is that the usenet has far too many people who
spend their time attacking other posters they don't like, so it's
just background noise. It can be ignored because once you see
that someone is prejudiced against another person, what they
say about them can no longer be trusted.
In other words: Get a life.
>
> Domine, dirige nos. Let the games begin!
> http://fredee[delete]ky/files/sf_anthem.mp3
>
Be nice if you'd use a delimiter on your sig.
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
> Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. wrote:
>
>
> >Evergreen wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>So this Jonathon Barbera fellow has a loose screw or two.
> >
> >
> >*chuckle* Oh the irony!
> >
> >
> >
> >>So what you are dealing with is a very deceptive and
> >>manipulative organization that I'd advise people to stay away
> >>from.
> >>
> >>Sid
> >
> >All writing is autobiographical. "Sid" merely describes the
> >reason he is a joke here, there and everywhere he chooses to
> >inflict his verbosity on. --
> >
> >Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
>
>
> Ooooh.Good one.Very nasty.
>
> Your only problem is that the usenet has far too many people who
> spend their time attacking other posters they don't like, so it's
> just background noise. It can be ignored
As you so routinly are.
> because once you see
> that someone is prejudiced against another person, what they
> say about them can no longer be trusted.
"Oh the irony." You just cant escape describing yourself with every word
you type.
>
>
> In other words: Get a life.
Ditto.
--
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky/files/sf_anthem.mp3
John
"Obi Wan SODDI" <smo...@mirror.com> wrote in message
news:L6adnX65Ytb2T_XX...@giganews.com...
>
snip
>
>>Uh, Excuse Me, but we are suppossed to be UPSET that a fanatical,
>>money-driven, worthless, sack o' shit mind-fuck cruel joke of a cult
>>has become even MORE of a fanatical, money-driven, worthless, sack o'
>>shit mind-fuck cruel joke of a cult?
>
> Pardon me, but exactly WHICH fanatical, money-driven, worthless, sack o'
> shit mind-fuck cruel joke of a cult are you referring to?
>
> WE are the one with smiling lucky money pipe head man.
>
> That other cult - well, I don't think they smile much.
>
Luckily Tom Cruise brings the average up.
Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx
"Chrystal Munsch" <chryst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:77865f8e-ec79-4225...@p36g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:31:28 -0700, Zapanaz
>
> <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl?f...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:56:17 -0700, Jonathon Barbera
> ><jonathonbarb...@ispname.net> wrote:
>
> >>youtube video: Thirty One Factors for Scientologists to Consider
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh8l_6UlSmY
>
> >One factor for Scientologists to consider
>
> One
>
>Uh, Excuse Me, but we are suppossed to be UPSET that a fanatical,
>money-driven, worthless, sack o' shit mind-fuck cruel joke of a cult has
>become even MORE of a fanatical, money-driven, worthless, sack o' shit
>mind-fuck cruel joke of a cult?
Alas, the only thing Scientology can do is regurgitate more Scientology.
Only in this single respect is the cult "expanding".
--
SP Goodman
The Usually Rightish "Rev" Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx
"Church" of Cartoonism
*
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.xenutv.com
http://www.scientology-lies.com
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
*
"Scientology...is not a psycho-therapy nor a religion."
- L. Ron Hubbard's "Creation of Human Ability" p251
*
"Radiation is apparently enormously water-soluble as well as water
removable. According to researchers, one merely has to take a hose to a
building surface or a road to wash the radiation off of it. This factor is
well known to defense trained personnel."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Clear Body, Clear Mind, page 47
*
"THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that
down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody
is to lie to them."
-- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
Gregory Hall
wrote in message news:h4au7c$tn5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> "THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write
> that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control
> anybody is to lie to them."
> -- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
Obama's lies are becoming more and more obvious lately. I guess he needs to
find another way to control people. Bring in ACORN!
--
Gregory Hall
Zapanaz
wrote:
>Get a life
Saying that to somebody on Usenet is a little like telling somebody at
a brothel to get married.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
An object at rest CANNOT BE STOPPED!
- just john
:: Currently listening to Dosvedanya Mio Bombino, 2007, by Pink Martini, from "Hey Eugene!"
Zapanaz
alt.slack is to kooks as Lucy van Pelt's football is to Charlie Brown
- Some great SubGenius
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Christians are like a council of frogs in a marsh or a synod of worms on a dunghill, croaking and squeaking, "For our sakes was the world created."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celsus
:: Currently listening to Lucifer Sam, 1967, by Pink Floyd/Syd Barrett, from "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn"
Tater Gumfries
> "Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx" <not-earthli...@nor-hotmail.com>
> wrote in messagenews:h4au7c$tn5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > "THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write
> > that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control
> > anybody is to lie to them."
> > -- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
>
> Obama's lies are becoming more and more obvious lately. I guess he needs to
> find another way to control people. Bring in ACORN!
So, think much? Don't seem too likely. If ya did, you might understand
jes enough logic to know
1. Obama lies
2. Founder of Scientology recommends lying as a way to control people
therefore Obama must be a Scientologist
is not a chain of logical inference.
Tater
Obi Wan SODDI
"Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> wrote in message
news:307jm5....@news.alt.net...
Someone getting blacks and the underprivileged to register to vote must be
REAL SCARY to a little creep like yourself.
SMASHERKARL
Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx
"Tater Gumfries" <TaterG...@usa.com> wrote in message
news:3232073a-9a3c-4345...@i4g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
Sounds like someone's got logical interference themselves! Mention Barry
Obama in a post where L. Ron Hubbard, lyin' intergalactic pill-poppin',
rum-swillin', wife-beatin' wannabe AntiChrist, is quoted as above, and the
True Believers scream out in pre-coded self-righteous outrage.
The O-Man's too busy with PR to deal with the cult's suck-up squad right now
as is (thankfully) Hilary Clinton, so it's up to the Scientology cult's
infiltration department to get down and dirty. One wonders and waits.
--
SP Goodman
The Usually Rightish "Rev" Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx
"Church" of Cartoonism
*
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.xenutv.com
http://www.scientology-lies.com
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
*
"Scientology...is not a psycho-therapy nor a religion."
- L. Ron Hubbard's "Creation of Human Ability" p251
*
"Radiation is apparently enormously water-soluble as well as water
removable. According to researchers, one merely has to take a hose to a
building surface or a road to wash the radiation off of it. This factor is
well known to defense trained personnel."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Clear Body, Clear Mind, page 47
*
Zapanaz
did anybody make heads or tails of that?
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
"If all the popular kids jumped off a cliff, would you?"
"Probably"
- Heathers
:: Currently listening to The Marsh, 2004, by California Guitar Trio, from "Whitewater"
Douche Bagelow
f...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> did anybody make heads or tails of that?
I call tails.
2...@rnc.com
<greg...@home.fake> wrote:
Republicans + Liars.
How do you a republican is lying? His lips are moving.
Zapanaz
that's how you a republican is lying?
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
My friend Sam has one leg. I went to his house. I couldn't go up the stairs.
-- Steven Wright
:: Currently listening to Sonata in A Minor for Cello and Piano "Arpeggione," First Movement, 1828, by Schubert, from "Yo-yo Ma: music that matters to him"
CHUCKkey
--
CHUCKkey
http://darkshovels.com
Unclaimed Mysteries
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:24:50 -0400, 2...@rnc.com wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:10:09 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
>> <greg...@home.fake> wrote:
>>
>>> "Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx" <not-ear...@nor-hotmail.com>
>>> wrote in message news:h4au7c$tn5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>>> "THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write
>>>> that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control
>>>> anybody is to lie to them."
>>>> -- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
>>> Obama's lies are becoming more and more obvious lately. I guess he needs to
>>> find another way to control people. Bring in ACORN!
>> Republicans + Liars.
>>
>> How do you a republican is lying? His lips are moving.
>
> that's how you a republican is lying?
>
His mastery of language is DOMINATE!
-cls
--
It Came From Corry Lee Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.
http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net
Unclaimed Mysteries
Negro In The Oval Office Derangement Syndrome. It's flaring up
everywhere, even with relatively "open-minded" people I wouldn't figure
would be susceptible.
Even borderline bigoted SubGenii are immune however, for they realize
that the President is a Pink human who isn't in charge of much at all.
Nor are the people who think they control the President. Nor the mundane
Grey Aliens who control them. I just wish our ultimate extraterrestrial
puppeteers weren't - gastropods. THAT part kinda creeps me out.
Obi Wan SODDI
"Zapanaz" <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl?foo=@mindspring.com> wrote in
message news:mrpj65tpt0u8h9ajl...@4ax.com...
He doesn't like Negroes.
Obi Wan SODDI
"CHUCKkey" <CHUCKke...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:h4ctv...@drn.newsguy.com...
> Jonathon Barbera is the Janor of Scientology.
>
You're so BAD.
CHUCKkey
says...
I wouldn't want to be called the Janor of anything.
--
CHUCKkey
http://darkshovels.com
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
> On Jul 23, 5:56 am, Jonathon Barbera <jonathonbarb...@ispname.net>
> wrote:
> > youtube video: Thirty One Factors for Scientologists to Consider
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh8l_6UlSmY
>
> Poor, poor stupid Ron. Such a noble benefactor of humanity, yet
> somehow so gullible that he allowed David Miscavige to pervert his
> great accomplishments....
>
> Poor, poor gullible Marty Rathbun. What a dumbassed victim to remain
> in Scientology for more than twenty years after the Miscavige coup,
> loyally assisting in the crimes and abuses perpetrated by the
> asthmatic dwarf.
>
> What an incredible line of bullshit his 31 points are. He is nearly as
> deluded as the woman who claims to be the wife of his predecessor/
> doppelganger.
Problem with Scientologists is like most Straight Bigots they only look at
"HALF" of the Story.
There was the Cave of Treasures which the Descendants lived in first
"BEFORE THE FLOOD" after that NOAH found a Second Cave.
Heaven and Hel are Both places where the "Silver Wheels Fell.
Draconians and Orian's/'A'rain's had a Major Feud, who was here first.
That ended LONG AGO.
Proof is, the Bheares of the "Cave of the North Wind" aka XION are "The
Army of Lucifer", and the "Hounds of Hel" are the Dragons or Foo Dogs of
Hyper Borea.
Read Beowulf some time, not as a School Mandate which you hate, but as a
Historical Legend to be understood.
Scientology tells a legend which may in fact get the world destroyed.
What happens if you MURDER Zenu's Heir and his people come to get him.
Who will take the place, if no one answers what will they do.
Believe Rome.
Gotta Stop Satan, RIGHT?????????
The Chosen Weapon of God, Gods most Beloved Angel.
KILL, KILL KILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All Man Broadcasts across the universe.
Was an interesting situation back in the 70's which was part of the Movie
Close Encounters.
A Radio Station in Michigan WWWW, Broadcast Longitude and Latitude
Coordinates begging any EXTRA TERRESTRIALS who heard the message to show
up on a certain day.
About 100 Miles South in Ohio on the Day "Specified", there was a Massive
UFO sighting, which the Police chased and "Shot At".
What happens if they get pissed and shoot back????????
Self Defense.
Why are they Evil for "Defending Themselves"?????????
�
�
�
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:47:40 -0700, Jonathon Barbera
<jonatho...@ispname.net> wrote:>Scientology practiced in accordance with Hubbard's Code of a
>Scientologist, Credo of a True Group Member, and the Creed of the
>Church can contribute something vital to society.http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/063/RipOff0063321.htm
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scientology&defid=1590861
>While Miscavige and his minions will no doubt claw, harass, and sue
>until the end to protect his fiefdomNobody gives a crap about that but Scientologists, and they're all
nutbags.
They complain about the Anonymous Hackers yet they are engaged in
such themselves, so you can't complain about "TIT for TAT" relations.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Governor Rocknar
> <Governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Jul 23, 1:33 pm, Jonathon Barbera <jonathonbarb...@ispname.net>
> >wrote:
> >> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:34:31 +0200, Fwap <explodingju...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >Jonathon Barbera skreiv:
> >> >> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:32:15 -0400, "Obi Wan SODDI"
> >> >> <smok...@mirror.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>> The only way scientologists can count to thirty-one is by using both hands,
> >> >>> both feet, both of somebody else's hands and someone's dick
> >>
> >> >...
> >>
> >> >> Thirty-One
> >>
> >> >...
> >>
> >> >So, who let you have a borrow of his dick?
> >>
> >> >...
> >>
> >> "Bob" is a closet Scientologist.
> >
> >L. Ron Hubbard is a closet SubGenius.
>
> You can be right.
But you can also be wrong.
He opened the door for some, but the problem is he was WRONG!!!!!!!!!!
�
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
> > Someone getting blacks and the underprivileged to register to vote must be
> > REAL SCARY to a little creep like yourself.
Not as scary as a Fag, using the "Bible" to prove "Christians" are LYING BIGOTS!
�
Douche Bagelow
I think you are 100% full of shit.
Jonathon Barbera
<http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl?foo=@mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:10:09 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
><greg...@home.fake> wrote:
>
>>"Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx" <not-ear...@nor-hotmail.com>
>>wrote in message news:h4au7c$tn5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>> "THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write
>>> that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control
>>> anybody is to lie to them."
>>> -- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
>>
>>Obama's lies are becoming more and more obvious lately. I guess he needs to
>>find another way to control people. Bring in ACORN!
>
>alt.slack is to kooks as Lucy van Pelt's football is to Charlie Brown
> - Some great SubGenius
Lucy was a Psych.
Charlie Brown is a classic victim.
Jonathon Barbera
SPx" <not-ear...@nor-hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Are you also a Warmist? Say one syllable of possible doubt about their Holy
>Theory and you're an Enemy of Mankind. Hm, where have we seen THAT before?
>Now we're back on-topic, and just in this newsgroup.
Global Warming is a front for the world's real number one problem:
global overpopulation.
The "Green" solution to "save the planet" will ultimately turn out to
be suicide and/or cannibalism.
Jonathon Barbera
<http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl?foo=@mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:24:50 -0400, 2...@rnc.com wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:10:09 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
>><greg...@home.fake> wrote:
>>
>>>"Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx" <not-ear...@nor-hotmail.com>
>>>wrote in message news:h4au7c$tn5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>>> "THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write
>>>> that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control
>>>> anybody is to lie to them."
>>>> -- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
>>>
>>>Obama's lies are becoming more and more obvious lately. I guess he needs to
>>>find another way to control people. Bring in ACORN!
>>
>>Republicans + Liars.
>>
>>How do you a republican is lying? His lips are moving.
>
>that's how you a republican is lying?
Democrats call it a Freudian Slip.
Republicans are so honest, Democrats can't even lie about them without
exposing themselves.
Jonathon Barbera
<rev.to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jul 22, 8:56�pm, Jonathon Barbera <jonathonbarb...@ispname.net>
>wrote:
>> youtube video: Thirty One Factors for Scientologists to Consider
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh8l_6UlSmY
>
>Did you think this up at Baskin Robbins?
It was written by Mark "Marty" Rathbun.
He was the second highest ranking executive in the Church of
Scientology a few years back. Now he is speaking out against the
abuses and criminal acts of David Miscavige.
Jonathon Barbera
This is what happens when I cross-post into alt.slack and the wicca
group at the same time. Oil and water!
Jonathon Barbera
He is an anti-Scientologist. That is the typical level of debate I
have to read on my group all the time.
Jonathon Barbera
wrote:
>Jonathon Barbera <jonatho...@ispname.net> wrote:
>
>[delete]
>
>I don't understand why this was crossposted to
>alt.religion.wicca.
>
>We have no interest in scientology
Funny how you try to speak for arw when you are the one trolling it!
Besides, once "Tom Newton" started to speak out for or against
Scientology on ars, he became permanently linked to the scene
regardless if he wants to escape or not.
Obi Wan SODDI
penis is about a fifth of an inch long."
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/194655/penis_size_in_the_animal_kingdom.html
Obi Wan SODDI
"Jonathon Barbera" <jonatho...@ispname.net> wrote:
> The "Green" solution to "save the planet" will ultimately turn out to
> be suicide and/or cannibalism.
It's like you people never heard of birth control.
Alarmist anti-sex wankers.
Obi Wan SODDI
"Jonathon Barbera" <jonatho...@ispname.net> wrote in message
news:qkam65p08dqv3823u...@4ax.com...
It's good that pains inna ass like you people get harassed same as the
people you're harassing.
Piss off scienofag.
Ren
On Jul 26, 12:57 am, Jonathon Barbera <jonathonbarb...@ispname.net>
wrote:
> On 23 Jul 2009 22:36:57 +0200, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
Toilet Pepper
> "The title of smallest overall penis belongs to the common shrew, whose
> penis is about a fifth of an inch long."
>
For more info:
Rev. 11D Meow!
Stealth Tuba
Rev. 11D Meow!
wrote:
for the kill filter impaired, yes... ::)))
thanks!
Evergreen
> On 23 Jul 2009 22:36:57 +0200, Evergreen <sidne...@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>Jonathon Barbera <jonatho...@ispname.net> wrote:
>>
>>[delete]
>>
>>I don't understand why this was crossposted to
>>alt.religion.wicca.
>>
>>We have no interest in scientology
>
>
> Funny how you try to speak for arw when you are the one trolling it!
You really ought to read the groups YOU troll.
What I do here is make sure that con artists like ren and storm
and aine (who could very well be the same person) don't convince
vulnerable young people that they are magickal adepts with
amazing powers and secret knowledge.
Ren and his tiny gang of charlatans call me a "troll" because
they don't like anyone asking them to demonstrate the magickal
powers they claim to have.
You are siding with a fraud.
>
> Besides, once "Tom Newton" started to speak out for or against
> Scientology on ars, he became permanently linked to the scene
> regardless if he wants to escape or not.
I couldn't care less what Tom Newton did.
You seem to have more than a few loose screws.
I guess that's what Scientology does to a person.
Sid
--
Sidney Lambe
Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
Governor Rocknar
wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:38:31 -0700, Zapanaz
>
>
>
> <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl?f...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:10:09 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
>
> >>"Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx" <not-earthli...@nor-hotmail.com>
> >>wrote in messagenews:h4au7c$tn5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> >>> "THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write
> >>> that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control
> >>> anybody is to lie to them."
> >>> -- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
>
> >>Obama's lies are becoming more and more obvious lately. I guess he needs to
> >>find another way to control people. Bring in ACORN!
>
> >alt.slack is to kooks as Lucy van Pelt's football is to Charlie Brown
> > - Some great SubGenius
>
> Lucy was a Psych.
>
> Charlie Brown is a classic victim.
No wonder you crosspost your nonsense. You can't tell the difference
between fantasy and reality! Charlie Brown is a FICTIONAL CHARACTER!
Even wikipedia says THAT!
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
>
>
> What I do here is make sure that con artists like ren and storm
> and aine (who could very well be the same person) don't convince
> vulnerable young people that they are magickal adepts with
> amazing powers and secret knowledge.
Thus demonstrating your obbsession with "magickal [sic] adepts with
amazing powers and secret knowledge."
You seem to be so very, very naieve, so very naieve you dont seem to
understad that which you decry and persecute is called "LIFE" these
suposedly "vulnerable young people" you hang your obbsession on like a
life suport system inevitably MUST encounter such types of people in all
walks of life.
Such claims of "amazing powers and secret knowledge" are not limited to
the mystical or spiritual world, ever hear of Berny Madoff? Enron? The
"Masters of the Universe" Wall St. syndrome? Scientology? the insurance
industry? me mum? all the above like to pretend to arcane wisdom the
'common people' cant understand, this is a source of their power, they,
like many philosophers create a system so complex only they can claim to
understand the truely revolutionary charecter of it, such hubris has
swayed many an C.E.O. when presented with the arcane complexity of
computer modeling and various other assorted computerized scams these
types are convinced of the legitimacy of, only to have it create the
present situation in which it becomes apparent its just an old wine in
new bottles gimmick.
What makes your crusade so laughable is the internal contradiction, you
claim ren and his associates are powerless posuers, and yet you rant and
on and on about these powerless posuers as if they were anything but.
Obviously you have fallen under their spell more completely than any
hypothetical "vulnerable young people" ever will.
You are obviously getting desperate to rationalize your obbsession, now
you become a caricature, like Helen Lovejoy, wife of the Reverend
Lovejoy on the Simpson's "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!"
And last but not least, how else do you expect 'children' or they young
to learn to avoid people like yourself if they are never exposed to your
type?
At least ren is n ot h anging out with a bag of candy down by the school
yard, you on the other hand....
--
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky/files/sf_anthem.mp3
Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx
"Governor Rocknar" <Governo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:46f4bcc1-aea4-45ea...@b14g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
Actually as an interesting perhaps-not-a-coincidence, Charlie Brown was a
biplane pilot in WWI, and flew a Sopwith Camel. "Peanuts" cosmologists
beware!
--
SP Goodman
The Usually Rightish "Rev" Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx
"Church" of Cartoonism
*
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.xenutv.com
http://www.scientology-lies.com
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
*
"Scientology...is not a psycho-therapy nor a religion."
- L. Ron Hubbard's "Creation of Human Ability" p251
*
"Radiation is apparently enormously water-soluble as well as water
removable. According to researchers, one merely has to take a hose to a
building surface or a road to wash the radiation off of it. This factor is
well known to defense trained personnel."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Clear Body, Clear Mind, page 47
*
Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx
"Obi Wan SODDI" <smo...@mirror.com> wrote in message
news:AqudnaqrIf1vr_bX...@giganews.com...
"MY" group? Oh murder. Pardon me while I roll around laughing at Mr
Killfile of 2009.
Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx
The poor deluded idiot's a scieno spammer, who seriously believes that the
cult is the Answer to Everything, but only after the big new-clear war
caused by the Psychs happens. How like Charlie Manson Scientology becomes
on examination!
--
Stephen Goodman
*
http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman
http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman
Governor Rocknar
earthli...@nor-hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Obi Wan SODDI" <smok...@mirror.com> wrote in messagenews:9s-dnfE00vIIr_bX...@giganews.com...
>
>
>
> > "Jonathon Barbera" <jonathonbarb...@ispname.net> wrote:
>
> >> The "Green" solution to "save the planet" will ultimately turn out to
> >> be suicide and/or cannibalism.
>
> > It's like you people never heard of birth control.
>
> > Alarmist anti-sex wankers.
>
> The poor deluded idiot's a scieno spammer, who seriously believes that the
> cult is the Answer to Everything, but only after the big new-clear war
> caused by the Psychs happens. How like Charlie Manson Scientology becomes
> on examination!
>
> --
> Stephen Goodman
> *http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodmanhttp://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman
"Nu-culer! It's pronounced Nu-culer!" - Homer J. Simpson, "Simpson
Tide"
Zapanaz
<jonatho...@ispname.net> wrote:
>Funny how you try to speak for arw when you are the one trolling it!
You started the trolly thread, you fucking cretin.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
iDRMRSR mocks tofu.
:: Currently listening to 7/4 (Shoreline), 2005, by Broken Social Scene, from "Broken Social Scene"
Zapanaz
why do you spam this stuff to alt.slack and alt.religion.wicca?
You know it's of no interest to anybody in either newsgroup, so I'm
curious why you do it. Are you really just too dim-witted to realize
it will be meaningless to most of the people you are posting it to?
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
>Do you even know who your state and federal senitors
>and reps are??
Not their names, but if you gave me pictures of their buttocks I would
know which ones were senators and which ones were reps.
Zapanaz
Freudian slip, oh what bullshit. Anyway I thought you Scientology
idiots think psychiatry is evil, aren't you required by L. Ron Hubbard
not to believe in thing like Freudian slips?
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Once, a man found Mulla Nasruddin searching for something on the ground outside his house. On being asked, Nasruddin replied that he was looking for his key. The man also joined in the search and in due course asked Mulla: ''Where exactly did you drop it?''
Mulla answered: ''In my house.''
''Then why are you looking here?'' the man asked.
''There is more light here than in my house,'' replied Mulla.
:: Currently listening to Planet Telex, 1995, by Radiohead, from "The Bends"
magicus
<http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl?foo=@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:48:56 -0700, Jonathon Barbera
> <jonatho...@ispname.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:56:23 -0700 (PDT), "Rev. Tom Sane"
>><rev.to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Jul 22, 8:56 pm, Jonathon Barbera <jonathonbarb...@ispname.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>> youtube video: Thirty One Factors for Scientologists to Consider
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh8l_6UlSmY
>>>
>>>Did you think this up at Baskin Robbins?
>>
>>
>>It was written by Mark "Marty" Rathbun.
>>
>>He was the second highest ranking executive in the Church of Scientology
>>a few years back. Now he is speaking out against the abuses and criminal
>>acts of David Miscavige.
>
> why do you spam this stuff to alt.slack and alt.religion.wicca?
>
> You know it's of no interest to anybody in either newsgroup, so I'm
> curious why you do it. Are you really just too dim-witted to realize it
> will be meaningless to most of the people you are posting it to?
May I suggest that it is because they are an idiot, nuff said (yeah, i
know bad grammar and such...)
ciao,
f
BTW, Praise Bob, heh
--
Atheists accept that "what we see in nature is what we get." There is no
magical basis to the universe.
Jonathon Barbera
wrote:
>Get Sidney "Evergreen" Lambe, Jon. Get him but good!
>
LOL!
The silliness is exponential now.
Jonathon Barbera
<http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl?foo=@mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:57:24 -0700, Jonathon Barbera
><jonatho...@ispname.net> wrote:
>
>>Funny how you try to speak for arw when you are the one trolling it!
>
>You started the trolly thread, you fucking cretin.
You're off the page this time.
Lurk moar and run your mouth less when you don't know the people
involved.
Jonathon Barbera
wrote:
>
>You are siding with a fraud.
>
You mean "Siding", right?
:P
Jonathon Barbera
SPx" <not-ear...@nor-hotmail.com> wrote:
I've been on ars since 1992. You're the newbie, knucklehead.
Jonathon Barbera
I never claimed they weren't fictional.
You would be surprised at how much of your religious beliefs I know to
be fictional.
There was no "Bob". No one really shot him. X-ist ships aren't coming
for you. And when the President says he will deliver "change", you
should know it isn't going to be a good change.
Jonathon Barbera
<http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl?foo=@mindspring.com> wrote:
You are ignorant of L. Ron Hubbard. He credited Freud more than once
for paving the way for Dianetics and Scientology.
Obi Wan SODDI
"Jonathon Barbera" <jonatho...@ispname.net> wrote:
> You would be surprised at how much of your religious beliefs I know to
> be fictional.
You mean to say that all this stuff is just made up?
Jeez.
Jonathon Barbera
<http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl?foo=@mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:48:56 -0700, Jonathon Barbera
><jonatho...@ispname.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:56:23 -0700 (PDT), "Rev. Tom Sane"
>><rev.to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Jul 22, 8:56�pm, Jonathon Barbera <jonathonbarb...@ispname.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>> youtube video: Thirty One Factors for Scientologists to Consider
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh8l_6UlSmY
>>>
>>>Did you think this up at Baskin Robbins?
>>
>>
>>It was written by Mark "Marty" Rathbun.
>>
>>He was the second highest ranking executive in the Church of
>>Scientology a few years back. Now he is speaking out against the
>>abuses and criminal acts of David Miscavige.
>
>why do you spam this stuff to alt.slack and alt.religion.wicca?
>
>You know it's of no interest to anybody in either newsgroup, so I'm
>curious why you do it. Are you really just too dim-witted to realize
>it will be meaningless to most of the people you are posting it to?
I've already explained all of this to you. If anyone is being
dim-witted...
Hey, I know. Why don't you take my earlier advice and read
Scientology: The Fundamentals of Thought by L. Ron Hubbard. Then maybe
you would at least understand what is happening.
You might even learn what slack is.
Jonathon Barbera
~ALL~ of it. :)
Evergreen
:-/
I think it would have two d's...
Sid
Sidding along.
Evergreen
> Get Sidney "Evergreen" Lambe, Jon. Get him but good!
Ren needs some help "getting me" because he can't do it
himself.
Even though he claims to be a magickal adept with all
sorts of amazing powers.
As for you "getting me", I just don't see it.
Sid
>
> On Jul 26, 12:57=A0am, Jonathon Barbera
> <jonathonbarb...@ispname.net> wrote:
>
>> On 23 Jul 2009 22:36:57 +0200, Evergreen
>> <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >Jonathon Barbera <jonathonbarb...@ispname.net> wrote:
>>
>> >[delete]
>>
>> >I don't understand why this was crossposted to
>> >alt.religion.wicca.
>>
>> >We have no interest in scientology
>>
>> Funny how you try to speak for arw when you are the one
>> trolling it!
>>
>> Besides, once "Tom Newton" started to speak out for or against
>> Scientology on ars, he became permanently linked to the scene
>> regardless if he wants to escape or not.
>
Ren
the dog bowl and make him eat it.
This all started because Sidney "Evergreen" Lambe suspects me of being
the leader of "Anonymous" out to attack $cientology. Yes, you can find
posts of mine that are critical of $cientology. I believe that to sell
religious secrets is wrong. But I don't waste my time protesting
$cientology on a regular basis. I've got better things to do.
Sidney wants to believe he is a member of "Anonymous is a Hate Group"
-- a troll group aiming to troll Anonymous -- who trolls $cientology.
But he hasn't stopped there. No he is a Christian who believes that
all non-Christian religions are evil and must be trolled.
Sidney also wants to believe that he is some kind of Slackware expert
and author when in truth, those working on this Linux distribution
have shunned him on official forums.
Sidney has also trolled alt.slack for many years. Not in a funny way.
In a vindictive and annoying way.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
> On Jul 24, 10:21 pm, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
> <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> > Eldon wrote:
> > > On Jul 23, 5:56 am, Jonathon Barbera <jonathonbarb...@ispname.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > youtube video: Thirty One Factors for Scientologists to Consider
> >
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh8l_6UlSmY
> >
> > > Poor, poor stupid Ron. Such a noble benefactor of humanity, yet
> > > somehow so gullible that he allowed David Miscavige to pervert his
> > > great accomplishments....
> >
> > > Poor, poor gullible Marty Rathbun. What a dumbassed victim to remain
> > > in Scientology for more than twenty years after the Miscavige coup,
> > > loyally assisting in the crimes and abuses perpetrated by the
> > > asthmatic dwarf.
> >
> > > What an incredible line of bullshit his 31 points are. He is nearly as
> > > deluded as the woman who claims to be the wife of his predecessor/
> > > doppelganger.
> >
> > Problem with Scientologists is like most Straight Bigots they only look at
> > "HALF" of the Story.
> > There was the Cave of Treasures which the Descendants lived in first
> > "BEFORE THE FLOOD" after that NOAH found a Second Cave.
> > Heaven and Hel are Both places where the "Silver Wheels Fell.
> > Draconians and Orian's/'A'rain's had a Major Feud, who was here first.
> > That ended LONG AGO.
> > Proof is, the Bheares of the "Cave of the North Wind" aka XION are "The
> > Army of Lucifer", and the "Hounds of Hel" are the Dragons or Foo Dogs of
> > Hyper Borea.
> > Read Beowulf some time, not as a School Mandate which you hate, but as a
> > Historical Legend to be understood.
> > Scientology tells a legend which may in fact get the world destroyed.
> > What happens if you MURDER Zenu's Heir and his people come to get him.
> > Who will take the place, if no one answers what will they do.
> > Believe Rome.
> > Gotta Stop Satan, RIGHT?????????
> > The Chosen Weapon of God, Gods most Beloved Angel.
> > KILL, KILL KILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > All Man Broadcasts across the universe.
> > Was an interesting situation back in the 70's which was part of the Movie
> > Close Encounters.
> > A Radio Station in Michigan WWWW, Broadcast Longitude and Latitude
> > Coordinates begging any EXTRA TERRESTRIALS who heard the message to show
> > up on a certain day.
> > About 100 Miles South in Ohio on the Day "Specified", there was a Massive
> > UFO sighting, which the Police chased and "Shot At".
> > What happens if they get pissed and shoot back????????
> > Self Defense.
> > Why are they Evil for "Defending Themselves"?????????
> >
> >
> >
>
> I think you are 100% full of shit.
Yep, I am 100 Percent the Shi'ite born of Set, the "Ass of a Man"!
The Co-Annon of the Barbarians.
�
Douche Bagelow
wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:06:30 -0700, Zapanaz
>
> >On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:57:24 -0700, Jonathon Barbera
> ><jonathonbarb...@ispname.net> wrote:
>
> >>Funny how you try to speak for arw when you are the one trolling it!
>
> >You started the trolly thread, you fucking cretin.
>
> You're off the page this time.
>
> Lurk moar and run your mouth less when you don't know the people
> involved.
pay attention to where YOU are posting, fuckhead.
Lord Cyclohexane
> involved.
You can either keep your bitchfight the fuck out of alt.slack or quit
being all butthurt when people attack you for doing so. Because,
frankly, we don't HAVE to give a shit if we know or don't know the
people involved, because YOU brought your shit on OUR territory. YOU
involved US, not the other way around.
Feel free to take your fight elsewhere at any goddamn time, it's as
easy as removing the alt.slack from your headers.
Douche Bagelow
--
Douche Bagelow
Android Cat
That sounds like the original "Alan Conner".
--
Ron of that ilk.
Lord Cyclohexane
You say that like orgasm is a bad thing.
[Previous post removed, as honestly, I have no fight with Barbara
Schwarz, so I was being unfair.]
Android Cat
> On Jul 25, 10:16 pm, Jonathon Barbera <jonathonbarb...@ispname.net>
> Feel free to take your fight elsewhere at any goddamn time, it's as
> easy as removing the alt.slack from your headers.
He's pure troll. He's doesn't care if he looks like an idiot, or being right
or wrong. He just wants to generate as much cross-posting noise as possible
because much of ARS was (finally!) learning to ignore him, like Babble
Shorts and Gregory Hall. They've worked their way through groups like
alt.suicide.holiday, alt.net.kooks, etc, and now it's alt.slack's turn.
He faps to every reply he generates.
Lord Cyclohexane
> He's pure troll. He's doesn't care if he looks like an idiot, or being right
> or wrong. He just wants to generate as much cross-posting noise as possible
> because much of ARS was (finally!) learning to ignore him, like Babble
> Shorts and Gregory Hall. They've worked their way through groups like
> alt.suicide.holiday, alt.net.kooks, etc, and now it's alt.slack's turn.
Awww, shit, then that means I was being unfair by keeping the
crosspost to ARS... I'll make sure to correct that in the future.
Thank you very much for the info, Android Cat!
Evergreen
Ren is a pathological liar. The only thing his articles mean is that
he felt like posting them. Truth and accuracy and honesty and logic
are not concerns of his.
This is one of the first things I noticed about him when I arrived
here 10 months or so ago, and it told me a lot.
Most importantly, it told me that he knows nothing about magick,
which requires brutal honesty.
Ren wants us to believe that he's a magickal adept, yet in his
efforts to drive me away for daring to ask him to demonstrate his
supposed magickal powers, all we ever see is vicious gossip like
the above.
You can say anything you want about me, ren. But if you don't
document your accusations no one but losers are going to pay
you any heed.
I don't believe anything you say about anyone. Especially yourself.
Sid
Rev. 11D Meow!
>
>I am a pathological liar.
>
'nuf said.
Stealth Tuba
Hoping to finally make that X-Day on my damned scooter!
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h233/RogerRamdrive/DamnedScooter.jpg
Sizzle Flambé
> That sounds like the original "Alan Conner".
Ren
> You can say anything you want about me, ren. But if you don't
> document your accusations no one but losers are going to pay
> you any heed.
Here is some documentation.
http://www.archivum.info/comp.os.linux.misc/2008-10/00774/Re:_Slackware_and_Slrn
And here is one mentioning that Sidney trolled alt.slack as Bob Dean.
http://www.keyongtech.com/4979432-information-for-people-using-googlegroups