Bush raped by Arab over barrel of oil
Fredric L. Rice
By Jamie Malernee
Staff Writer
Posted July 22 2005
http://www.southflorida.com/movies/sfl-cdailyshow22jul22,0,4472611.story?coll=sfe-tv-headlines
Once again, there's controversy over "Controversy," the Broward Art Guild's
May exhibit -- this time brought by The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.
The guild's board of directors on Wednesday fired executive director Susan
Buzzi, who has worked there at least 10 years, after she appeared in a
Daily Show spoof on an explicit art piece without consulting them.
"They called a secret meeting of the board and fired her," said board
member Kate Barnett, who voted to keep Buzzi. "She wasn't `communicating
properly with them.' I said, `Go for it. Publicity is publicity.'"
The explicit art depicted an Arab sheik having his way with President Bush
over an oil barrel, an image the artist said he created to protest the role
of oil in the Iraq war. Buzzi sparked a censorship debate when she moved
the piece in response to a complaint.
In the Daily Show segment, which aired last week, Buzzi became flustered
when questioned by correspondent Ed Helms. The spoof also pokes fun at the
man who complained about another local artist featured in the exhibition
for his depiction of Pope Benedict surrounded by Nazi images.
Michael Friedman said Thursday that he does not regret complaining, but he
does oppose Buzzi's firing.
"I never thought any of this would happen," he said.
Buzzi she said she'd been given no explanation. "I think I'm going to pass
out," she said.
A woman at the guild hung up when a reporter telephoned seeking comment.
Barnett added that most of the executive board is made up of new members
looking to replace Buzzi so they can have more control.
Jamie Malernee can be reached at jmal...@sun-sentinel.com or
954-356-4849.
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>
> The explicit art depicted an Arab sheik having his
> way with President Bush over an oil barrel, an image
> the artist said he created to protest the role
Pop art is so dead in the US.
Empty, soulless, derivative, scatalogical.
It's like having to watch "The Aristocrats"
40 times in a row. What's the point? Same
old shit.
If artists should receive any government money
at all, it should be to send them to countries
outside the US, Canada, and Europe, and make
them live there for at least 3 months straight.
I'm talking South America or Africa or SE Asia
and Oceania, not including NZ or Australia.
American artists all seem to be television-fed,
spoiled, self-indulgent, ugly-American types,
who have no conception of what the rest of the
world is like. Much like the typical American
who has never left America. Know-it-alls who
don't know shit but are totally full of
themselves.
Prozac babies who never experience the real
emotional highs and lows that most people live.
Who have never really seen injustice, suffering,
starvation, inhumanity, *or* what people do to
overcome these things in any way they can.
"I haven't had a real life, but I've seen a bunch
of them depicted on teevee!"
Their art would improve 1000%.
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Baldin Pramer
> Fredric L. Rice wrote:
>
>>The explicit art depicted an Arab sheik having his
>>way with President Bush over an oil barrel, an image
>>the artist said he created to protest the role
>
>
> Pop art is so dead in the US.
What do you mean by "pop art"?
> Empty, soulless, derivative, scatalogical.
>
> It's like having to watch "The Aristocrats"
> 40 times in a row. What's the point? Same
> old shit.
>
> If artists should receive any government money
> at all, it should be to send them to countries
> outside the US, Canada, and Europe, and make
> them live there for at least 3 months straight.
Why?
> I'm talking South America or Africa or SE Asia
> and Oceania, not including NZ or Australia.
I am sure some of them would find that interesting.
> American artists all seem to be television-fed,
> spoiled, self-indulgent, ugly-American types,
> who have no conception of what the rest of the
> world is like.
I very much doubt you so familiar with all American artists that your
opinion has any weight.
> Much like the typical American
> who has never left America. Know-it-alls who
> don't know shit but are totally full of
> themselves.
>
> Prozac babies who never experience the real
> emotional highs and lows that most people live.
> Who have never really seen injustice, suffering,
> starvation, inhumanity, *or* what people do to
> overcome these things in any way they can.
>
> "I haven't had a real life, but I've seen a bunch
> of them depicted on teevee!"
>
> Their art would improve 1000%.
Wow! You *are* an expert on all American artists. I apologize for my
moment of doubt.
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HellPope Huey
> Daily Show spoof leads to firing of Broward Art Guild chief
> By Jamie Malernee
> Staff Writer
> Posted July 22 2005
> http://www.southflorida.com/movies/sfl-cdailyshow22jul22,0,4472611.story?coll=sfe-tv-headlines
>
> Once again, there's controversy over "Controversy," the Broward Art Guild's
> > May exhibit -- this time brought by The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.
>
> The guild's board of directors on Wednesday fired executive director Susan
> Buzzi, who has worked there at least 10 years, after she appeared in a
> Daily Show spoof on an explicit art piece without consulting them.
>
> "They called a secret meeting of the board and fired her," said board
> member Kate Barnett, who voted to keep Buzzi. "She wasn't `communicating
> properly with them.' I said, `Go for it. Publicity is publicity.'"
>
> The explicit art depicted an Arab sheik having his way with President Bush
> over an oil barrel, an image the artist said he created to protest the role
>
> of oil in the Iraq war. Buzzi sparked a censorship debate when she moved
> the piece in response to a complaint.
Feh, tempest in a pee-pot. Political figures have been presented
committing or being subjected to rough-trade anal since Tammany Hall
gave the first round of yellow journalism its lemony hue. The whole
thing is a natural part of the political process; Jon is just its latest
champion. He so cuuuute.
Heh, the last time anyone exhibited the ability to convey so much with
a single smirking glance was when Johnny Carson told Zsa Zsa Gabor
"Sure, move the cat" when she asked if he'd like to pet her pussy.
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nu-monet v8.0
>
> nu-monet v8.0 wrote:
>
> > Fredric L. Rice wrote:
> >
> >>The explicit art depicted an Arab sheik having his
> >>way with President Bush over an oil barrel, an image
> >>the artist said he created to protest the role
> >
> >
> > Pop art is so dead in the US.
>
> What do you mean by "pop art"?
This is the question at the heart of what I wrote.
"Pop" is short for "Popular", truly a misnomer.
Today, "pop art" is art created specifically for,
and puffed by the media more for some ulterior motive
other than art. Usually either social criticism or
politics.
Please note I did *not* say that art *cannot* be either
about social criticism or politics. The usual defense
to "pop art" criticism, true to form, is defending
either the social criticism or the politics, *not*
defending the artistry or lack thereof.
And NO, just because something has a content of social
criticism and/or politics, does NOT mean it is art.
When art is totally co-opted for political reasons, it
ceases to be art and becomes propaganda. It's creators
and admirers are indifferent to it as art. Art, for
them, is only a technique to express their propaganda.
When art is totally co-opted for political reasons,
and to gloriously extol bitter hatred, it is not just
propaganda, it is truly hate speech. The artistry
within has become marginalized to non-existence. It
has no importance left.
Which answers the interminable question of how can an
abstract such as "art" be defined. In this case, "art"
is defined by another, equally undefineable abstract,
"that which destroys art", or Philistinism.
"Pop art" is what remains when Philistines destroy
"art". When the media portrays hate-filled propaganda
as "art", ignoring any artistry in favor of proclaiming
its hate and propaganda.
And as I said before, it is empty, soulless, derivative,
and scatalogical. And it is not "art".
Finally, as I said before, "artists", and I mean of both
kinds, "real" artists and "pop" artists, should be
exposed to life outside of their illusions. It could
provide real artists with depth they often so desperately
need; while at the same time, it could possibly cause the
propaganda artist to doubt the purity of their beliefs.
Society, and art, would benefit in either case.
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<not...@succeeds.com> wrote:
Send them to Iraq. They can paint that.
pb
nu-monet v8.0
>
> Send them to Iraq. They can paint that.
>
That would work. Many really good artists have been
inspired in minimal war zones. Lots of sights to see
and people to talk to with tales to tell.
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nu-monet v8.0
I bet he did.
Zapanaz
>> Their art would improve 1000%.
>
>Send them to Iraq. They can paint that.
They could paint the sand blue. That would be cheery.
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Baldin Pramer
> Finally, as I said before, "artists", and I mean of both
> kinds, "real" artists and "pop" artists, should be
> exposed to life outside of their illusions. It could
> provide real artists with depth they often so desperately
> need; while at the same time, it could possibly cause the
> propaganda artist to doubt the purity of their beliefs.
>
> Society, and art, would benefit in either case.
It seems that the unspoken assumption on your part is that visual
artists have very little experience in the real world. How do you come
to this conclusion? Do you think they are, on the whole, less worldly
than you, for example?
nu-monet v8.0
A minority of Americans travel outside the United States
and that minority repeatedly travel outside the US. Of
that minority, the majority travel to Canada and Europe,
excepting recently immigrated peoples who frequently
visit Mexico.
In that American artists are a subset of Americans, unless
it can be demonstrated that they, as a group, travel
outside the United States both *more* than the average,
*and* travel to places *other* than Canada and Europe,
excepting those of Mexican descent, my point stands.
That is, unless you can demonstrate both of these things.
To continue the thought, artists can be selected out as
a group whose work would be affected by a lack of exposure
to outside influences, unlike most other careers, where a
lack of worldliness would have little impact.
So yes, American artists as a group are like Americans
as a whole, who also suffer from a lack of exposure to
places outside of the United States, Canada and Europe.
Which has a detrimental effect on their art.
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Baldin Pramer
> Baldin Pramer wrote:
>
>>nu-monet v8.0 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Finally, as I said before, "artists", and I mean of both
>>>kinds, "real" artists and "pop" artists, should be
>>>exposed to life outside of their illusions. It could
>>>provide real artists with depth they often so desperately
>>>need; while at the same time, it could possibly cause the
>>>propaganda artist to doubt the purity of their beliefs.
>>>
>>>Society, and art, would benefit in either case.
>>
>>It seems that the unspoken assumption on your part is that
>>visual artists have very little experience in the real world.
>>How do you come to this conclusion? Do you think they are,
>>on the whole, less worldly than you, for example?
>>
>
>
> A minority of Americans travel outside the United States
> and that minority repeatedly travel outside the US. Of
> that minority, the majority travel to Canada and Europe,
> excepting recently immigrated peoples who frequently
> visit Mexico.
>
> In that American artists are a subset of Americans, unless
> it can be demonstrated that they, as a group, travel
> outside the United States both *more* than the average,
> *and* travel to places *other* than Canada and Europe,
> excepting those of Mexican descent, my point stands.
There is no reason to expect, ab initio, that a subset of the population
shares every trait with the average over the entire population; e.g.
"Most Americans distrust Muslims, therefore it is reasonable to assume
American Muslims mistrust Muslims."
Further, your exclusion of European travel as an artistically enhancing
experience seems a little narrow minded. Just what is it you expect
travel to do for a person?
nu-monet v8.0
>
> There is no reason to expect, ab initio, that a
> subset of the population shares every trait with
> the average over the entire population; e.g.
> "Most Americans distrust Muslims, therefore it
> is reasonable to assume American Muslims mistrust
> Muslims."
Oh, please. That distorts logic in three different
ways. First of all, artists don't share every trait
with the average of the entire population, and I said
no such thing.
Second, travel is dependant solely on money and will,
of which artists as a class are not unique in having
it or not having it.
Third, unlike religion, travel is neutral. There is
no special relationship artists have with it not kept
by the population as a whole. Having absolutely NO
evidence that artists *don't* travel as much or as
little as the population as a whole, my argument
stands.
> Further, your exclusion of European travel as an
> artistically enhancing experience seems a little
> narrow minded. Just what is it you expect travel
> to do for a person?
>
While Europe offers many artistic venues, the best
lessons to be learned by artists are to be learned
by people, not things. The lessons are emotional
in character, less technical. Europeans (I note
that you did not mention Canada), in the parts of
Europe more traveled by tourists, are very much
like Americans and Canadians in their history,
philosophy, culturally and in their way of life.
Differences between them are minor compared to most
of the people in the world.
And while there is some degree of language barrier,
it is only a minor obstacle to a tourist. There are
almost no cathartic events, situations both utterly
alien and shocking, to be seen there. It is a
familiar place.
Compare that to visiting a third or fourth world
country, deprived of many of the amenities of life
in the developed world. Observing people whose
lives are a radical departure from what you know.
An artist might make a competant sketch of the
cathedral at Ulm. But it is just a competant sketch.
How much better would the art be if the artist forced
themselves to try and express the torment he felt
looking at a starving beggar woman and her sickly
child? Not just a sketch, the artist is trying to
express his feelings. And not just as an abstract,
but his pain and confusion that such a situation
is allowed to exist.
That motivation, those feelings, turn technical
skill into inspiration and expression. It might
even affect his art for the rest of his life.
And he might even come to the conclusion that much
of what he thought was important in his little world
back home, was very trivial indeed.
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Baldin Pramer
> Baldin Pramer wrote:
>
>>There is no reason to expect, ab initio, that a
>>subset of the population shares every trait with
>>the average over the entire population; e.g.
>>"Most Americans distrust Muslims, therefore it
>>is reasonable to assume American Muslims mistrust
>>Muslims."
>
>
> Oh, please. That distorts logic in three different
> ways. First of all, artists don't share every trait
> with the average of the entire population, and I said
> no such thing.
Your point was:
"A minority of Americans travel outside the United States
and that minority repeatedly travel outside the US."
and you claimed
"In that American artists are a subset of Americans, unless
it can be demonstrated that they, as a group, travel
outside the United States both *more* than the average,
*and* travel to places *other* than Canada and Europe,
excepting those of Mexican descent, my point stands."
Your assumption is therefore that, unless I can provide evidence to the
contrary, artists share this trait with the average over all Americans.
I believe an argument could be made, because of the low average income
of artists, that they actually travel *less*.
> Second, travel is dependant solely on money and will,
> of which artists as a class are not unique in having
> it or not having it.
I disagree for the reason stated above.
> Third, unlike religion, travel is neutral. There is
> no special relationship artists have with it not kept
> by the population as a whole.
I disagree. Artists, more than the average American, are less likely to
hold orthodox views, and in fact may be more adventuresome than average.
Traveling requires a willingness to step out of the ordinary.
> Having absolutely NO
> evidence that artists *don't* travel as much or as
> little as the population as a whole, my argument
> stands.
Perhaps they are more likely to want to travel, but that are less likely
to be able to afford it.
>>Further, your exclusion of European travel as an
>>artistically enhancing experience seems a little
>>narrow minded. Just what is it you expect travel
>>to do for a person?
>
> While Europe offers many artistic venues, the best
> lessons to be learned by artists are to be learned
> by people, not things. The lessons are emotional
> in character, less technical. Europeans (I note
> that you did not mention Canada),
Canada is a little easier to get to and less difficult to get around in.
> in the parts of
> Europe more traveled by tourists, are very much
> like Americans and Canadians in their history,
> philosophy, culturally and in their way of life.
> Differences between them are minor compared to most
> of the people in the world.
Agreed, but there is a wide range of difference between countries.
Travel through Montenegro will be significantly different than travel
through France.
> And while there is some degree of language barrier,
> it is only a minor obstacle to a tourist. There are
> almost no cathartic events, situations both utterly
> alien and shocking, to be seen there. It is a
> familiar place.
That is frequently true, although I was in Slovenia during the war, and
visiting Croatia right after the Serbs had left was rather shocking. It
all depends on how you go about traveling.
> Compare that to visiting a third or fourth world
> country, deprived of many of the amenities of life
> in the developed world. Observing people whose
> lives are a radical departure from what you know.
Quite different, I agree. Even then, though, it depends on how you do
it. I know people who have visited India, seen the dead and dying on the
streets and been little affected by it.
> An artist might make a competant sketch of the
> cathedral at Ulm. But it is just a competant sketch.
> How much better would the art be if the artist forced
> themselves to try and express the torment he felt
> looking at a starving beggar woman and her sickly
> child? Not just a sketch, the artist is trying to
> express his feelings. And not just as an abstract,
> but his pain and confusion that such a situation
> is allowed to exist.
I agree that this experience could be really valuable, and not just for
artists.
> That motivation, those feelings, turn technical
> skill into inspiration and expression. It might
> even affect his art for the rest of his life.
Being involved in the LA riots, teaching Appalachian children to read,
marching with MLK can have the similar effects. It is not the travel
that does the trick.
> And he might even come to the conclusion that much
> of what he thought was important in his little world
> back home, was very trivial indeed.
Your point is well made, but I must disagree on principle. RPA and all
that.
saint bubba
<not...@succeeds.com> wrote:
>
>So yes, American artists as a group are like Americans
>as a whole, who also suffer from a lack of exposure to
>places outside of the United States, Canada and Europe.
>
>Which has a detrimental effect on their art.
but if i can paint a really nice picture of a bowl of fruit, how is
visiting the slums of islamabad gonna help my creative output?
visiting the brothels of tblisi, mind you, with some of the weird
goddamn shit the russians smoke, that could expand my creative output.
but mainly, it'd still be a bowl of fruit, but then it would have eyes
and TEETH.
st bubba
polar bear
<bal...@mailtoworld.com> wrote:
Yeah, how far did Leonardo daVinci travel in his life?
pb
polar bear
<abvh...@REMOVE.auracom.com> wrote:
The experience would probably turn YOU into a bowl of fruit. Just stay
home and do drugs. You'll get the same effect with fewer risks.
pb
nu-monet v8.0
>
> Yeah, how far did Leonardo daVinci travel in his life?
Not only did he travel all over Italy, but he was in
the middle of several wars and had for drinking buddies
not only Niccolo Machiavelli but Cesare Borgia.
I suppose if an artist wanted to hang out with both
Hillary Clinton and Newt Ginrich, they would probably
get some depth to their art, too.
Before they killed themself.
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<not...@succeeds.com> wrote:
>polar bear wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, how far did Leonardo daVinci travel in his life?
>
>Not only did he travel all over Italy, but he was in
>the middle of several wars and had for drinking buddies
>not only Niccolo Machiavelli but Cesare Borgia.
>
>I suppose if an artist wanted to hang out with both
>Hillary Clinton and Newt Ginrich, they would probably
>get some depth to their art, too.
>
>Before they killed themself.
Maybe that's how nenslo got the way he is.
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nu-monet v8.0
>
>>I suppose if an artist wanted to hang out with both
>>Hillary Clinton and Newt Ginrich, they would probably
>>get some depth to their art, too.
>>
>>Before they killed themself.
>
> Maybe that's how nenslo got the way he is.
Clear your mind.
Now imaging a threesome: Hillary, Newt, and Nenslo.
Did you ever suspect your stomach lining looked
like that?
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> Yeah, how far did Leonardo daVinci travel in his life?
He made monthly trips to the orphanarium to replenish his supply of
young boys. The wings of his first hang gliders were made from their
skins. History is SO UGLY. Itchy as well; no toilet paper for most of
it, my my. This partially explains the Viking berserkers.
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I tried to pee in a Salvation army collection pot.
Santa was not at all pleased.
From 30 feet away she looked like a lot of class.
From 10 feet away she looked like something
made up to be seen from 30 feet away.
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This Bible cost 15 bucks! And talk about a preachy book!
Everybody's a sinner! Except this guy."
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saint bubba
hell, if it werent for ethnopharmacological tourism, id never leave my
backyard. it never ceases to amaze me the weird fucking shit people
will injest just to cop a buzz.
ive always wanted to try peyote, but thats only because i read a
buncha carlos castenada while i was baked years and years ago. the
puking part of a peyote high sucks mind you, as im rather possessive
of my stomach contents. as would the floating away in a bubble part,
cause im claustrophobic.
i did qat once, but it was kinda over-rated, and all i got was mellow.
well, ok, really really mellow where i could sit in a hot stuffy room
full of old toothless arabs i couldnt understand and still get their
jokes.
st bubba
c-bee1
"nu-monet v8.0" <not...@succeeds.com> wrote in message
news:42E282...@succeeds.com...
rofl You clearly haven't got the slightest idea what you're talking about.
c-bee1
lol The exact same thing can be done with an empty refrigerator, from an
artist experiencing the exact same problems you complain they have no
familiarity with.
nu-monet v8.0
>
> rofl You clearly haven't got the slightest idea
> what you're talking about.
Damn. Your blinding 3rd grade logic overwhelms me.
Says you!
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> it never ceases to amaze me the weird fucking shit people
> will injest just to cop a buzz.
The most disgusting thing I've ever seen on COPS was people who
snorted spray paint. Goat frocking grief!!! You could see
these people and tell what it did to their brain.
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