> Recently, the site Renderosity.com decided to censor my image "Goddamn
> Dirty Nigger" because the title had the "N-Word" and too many people would
> get upset, without understanding (or even be willing to understand) the
> image and what it meant.
It'd be one thing if they said something like, they think using "Nigger" in a
title is unoriginal and obviously intended for cheap shock value and they
prefer to have their contributors provide images that are visually provocative
without the need of a shocking title.
If an image is enhanced by a title, it's lacking without one? Probably not but
one has to ask if the image can stand on it's own visual merits it does need a
name? It's certainly more artful with a sensational title. And then there's the
art of manipulation...
They probably wouldn't go for "Goddamn Dirty Jewboy" either, but they'd
probably allow "Goddamn Dirty Christian" as long as the subject wasn't painted
as a nigger.
Do they allow "fuck" in a title?
>
>
> Therefore, in protest, I removed all my troublesome images from their
> gallery and replaced them with this series of "safe" and "family-friendly"
> images, vowing to give my fellow artfags "the Dr.Legume they so richly
> deserve". The first thing I posted was "Magic Pink Pony".
>
> Then something happened I hadn't counted on. A bunch of pro-Legume
> supporters rallied and voted the image straight to the top of their "Top 20
> of the Week" gallery in protest of the homogenous "topless women with
> swords" genre that is so prevalent at the site.
>
> If you really want to check it out for all the details, go to
> www.renderosity.com, and check out both my gallery (the comments are
> hilarious)and the "Complaint and Debate" forum there.
I found the site but I couldn't find any Legume Gallery. How do I navigate to
the images?
-Col. Sphinx Drummond TWSR
"Legume" <no...@yerbiz.com> wrote in message
news:Xns91A0A19F1FCDCo...@24.12.106.199...
> Recently, the site Renderosity.com decided to censor my image "Goddamn
> Dirty Nigger" because the title had the "N-Word" and too many people would
> get upset, without understanding (or even be willing to understand) the
> image and what it meant.
>
> Therefore, in protest, I removed all my troublesome images from their
> gallery and replaced them with this series of "safe" and "family-friendly"
> images, vowing to give my fellow artfags "the Dr.Legume they so richly
> deserve". The first thing I posted was "Magic Pink Pony".
>
> Then something happened I hadn't counted on. A bunch of pro-Legume
> supporters rallied and voted the image straight to the top of their "Top
20
> of the Week" gallery in protest of the homogenous "topless women with
> swords" genre that is so prevalent at the site.
>
> If you really want to check it out for all the details, go to
> www.renderosity.com, and check out both my gallery (the comments are
> hilarious)and the "Complaint and Debate" forum there.
>
> --
> Dr.Legume
>
> "The idea of you dead and horribly mutilated turns me on."
> Yeah, that's right. Lie about racial issues. Like that isn;t how the
subject got
> all fucked up in the first place.
>
No one's lieing about anything. No one here is a racist, you kike.
--
Two Beans
http://www.eyeofthewarp.com/twobeans
http://www.eyeofthewarp.com/nhgh
http://mp3.com/twobeans
"There, the spark leaps to life. The Golden Age quivers on the brink of
creation. Live, my machine! Live my savior! You have my breath... You have
my dream, my dream."
-The Residents, "Failure / Reconstruction" from the album Mark of the Mole
Hey, in 5 more years, they'll be allowing "fuck" on "The Chamber." 'Can you
answer these 10 questions and keep your heart rate down while being blown by
Pink??!!' Mark my woids.
Good points, doktor, but what's the friggin' difference now? Capitalism
co-opted "Art" a LOOONG time ago. All that's generally left are the independent
thrills that creep in around the edges, such as the delish evils of Saint Legume
or people glancing sideways in disgust at my Fraidy "Bob" Tattoo. The only stuff
that hits the mark is guerilla works and the mega-rare gems with only modest,
pop claims to the title to begin with, such as "Invader Zim."
The best art is never marketed, but only seen & enjoyed by you, yer friends or
a limited local exposure. The minute rent-paying money enters the picture, the
smell of warm cheese or Frenchmen rises and clogs the room. Just ask Stang about
the huge mansion he lives in as a result of BotSG sales. The one in the middle
of the frop fields of Dobbstown, where we all ride the monorail to the Xanadu
Cafe for space cakes every morning at 2 p.m.? Yeah, that'un.
The line between crap and real Art is so thin you can roll a photon down it.
And "Bob" straddles that line, yee haw.
Besides, only HIS crotch can handle it.
HellPope Huey, hellpo...@subgenius.com
When a buzzard sits on the fence and stares at you,
it's time to go to the doctor
"Church is what DROVE me to drugs."
- Bill Maher
"Mike Tyson just got out of prison,
you're lucky he doesn't
bend you over the ropes
and drive you home!"
- Robin Williams
"He made everybody work at the top of their chops."
- Edie Adams, Ernie Kovac's wife
PR
Ah, da lousy bastids make youse eat a cookie 'fore dey shows ya da
purdy pictures.
--
Rev. St. Klyf "Not Max Cannon" the Not-Quite-Sane, ESB
This lovely signature is #19 in a series.
Collect them all!
> Kevan wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:57:29 GMT, Legume <no...@yerbiz.com> from The
> > Leguminati wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>You should send their webmaster an email saying that you're with the
> >>NAACP and you don't think they sould be promoting the Klan.
> >
> > Yeah, that's right. Lie about racial issues. Like that isn;t how the
> > subject got all fucked up in the first place.
>
> Modemac IS with the NAACP.
You know, I used to be a card-carrying member of the NAACP. I should
send in my own complaint.
Her Ladyship Lilith
--
\m/ -=8=- http://lilith.foolspress.com/ -=8=- \m/
> "Kevan" <cut...@shreve.net> wrote in message
> news:8me15u4nr18bm7t8q...@4ax.com...
>
> > Yeah, that's right. Lie about racial issues. Like that isn;t how the
> subject got
> > all fucked up in the first place.
> >
>
> No one's lieing about anything. No one here is a racist, you kike.
You asshole, stop insulting kikes, they didn't do anything to deserve
K-job.
> In article <3C50BC38...@subgenius.com>, "Col. says...
> >>Legume wrote:
> >
> >> Recently, the site Renderosity.com decided to censor my image "Goddamn
> >> Dirty Nigger" because the title had the "N-Word" and too many people would
> >> get upset, without understanding (or even be willing to understand) the
> >> image and what it meant.
> >{{{{
> >They probably wouldn't go for "Goddamn Dirty Jewboy" either, but they'd
> >probably allow "Goddamn Dirty Christian" as long as the subject wasn't
> >painted
> >as a nigger.
> >
> >Do they allow "fuck" in a title?
>
> Hey, in 5 more years, they'll be allowing "fuck" on "The Chamber." 'Can you
> answer these 10 questions and keep your heart rate down while being blown by
> Pink??!!' Mark my woids.
Shit, I was watching videos someone digitized off MTV Europe. They show
PUSSY there. Glances, really--maybe a half-second's worth, but enough
to recognize it. But here, there are some that'd make it illegal to say
"darn" because it encourages cursing. We're such an uptight culture on
ALL fronts.
Kneejerk morality is like a pair of leather pants on a fat man.
Fortunately, we have a seam splitter named Dobbs, and NO SHAME.
Just like the Kevan when he's trying to be funny.
--
Rev. St. Klyf "Not Max Cannon" the Not-Quite-Sane, ESB
"Why is it called tourist season if we can't
shoot at them?"
--Bumper Sticker
So you're seeing those sublinguals - oops, slipped - subliminals, too?
Did you know that 'they' *eat* PUSSY there, too? I mean, in Europe? It
really can be a great cuntinent to visit, especially if one enjoys lapping
up cultures. Just be careful what cultures get lapped; one should bring
anti-bacterial soap, of course, or purchase plenty upon arrival, assuming
lotsa laps. And use it!
> Glances, really--maybe a half-second's worth, but enough
> to recognize it. But here, there are some that'd make it illegal to say
> "darn" because it encourages cursing. We're such an uptight culture on
> ALL fronts.
>
> Kneejerk morality is like a pair of leather pants on a fat man.
> Fortunately, we have a seam splitter named Dobbs, and NO SHAME.
In Europe, 'they' have a semen-spitter named Bitch, and another named Bruth.
And they swallow, too - I mean, Bitch and Bruth swallow: 'they' don't. They
leave their business cards in phone booths all over. 'They' take their
business cards outta specially designed and engraved cases, and endlessly
enviously trade amongst 'themselves', just like the American Psychos.
>
> Her Ladyship Lilith
>
> --
> \m/ -=8=- http://lilith.foolspress.com/ -=8=- \m/
Europe, home of Ferdinand and Isabella, who said to Chris Columbus, "If you
make another movie, we chop your head off." 'They' told Christopher
Columbus, "Go find some places that have cool shit we can steal and cultures
we can overlap up." And he did, and 'they' did, and did any one not see
'Aguirre, the Wrath of God'? Larry Fishburne was good on that one
(remember, he was still 'Larry' then, not Cowboy Curtis), and its so obvious
that this role inspired the one Coppola wrote and casted Fishburne in for
that other river-trip movie that start with an "A". Fishburne was a kid
when he did Aguirre, and still quite young when he did Coppola's
coronary-causer a few years later. Now he's talking writing, directing,
producing and starring (and talking) in 442 minute-long remake of 'Laurence
of Saudi Arabia' (pennant-picker!) - 442 minutes will Trier any patients to
Kingdom-come. Lean direction Fishburne is taking in Hollywoodland - he
should look before he leaps. And when you leap up in Europe, you don't have
a lap anymore. (Fishburne can't ask Columbus for direction, cause the queen
will say, "Off with his head". Chris' head. Larry, with this career move,
may not demonstrate a good head on his shoulders, but for now he'll keep his
there, at least until a fiat flattens his head. And Columbus steer him
toward a Western, some "Cheyanne Social Club" remake, with Fishburne playing
a jive cowboy-pimp, the Jimmy Stewart role, but with a little Moulin Rouge
on the cheeks. Not that you'd see it on Fishburne's ass.)
'imp'
Would it be better if I said "ketchup beings" instead?
> HellPope Huey wrote:
>
> > Good points, doktor, but what's the friggin' difference now?
> > Capitalism
> > co-opted "Art" a LOOONG time ago. All that's generally left are the
> > independent thrills that creep in around the edges, such as the delish
> > evils of Saint Legume or people glancing sideways in disgust at my
> > Fraidy "Bob" Tattoo. The only stuff that hits the mark is guerilla
> > works and the mega-rare gems with only modest, pop claims to the title
> > to begin with, such as "Invader Zim."
>
> And that's exactly why you should go to renderosity.com and vote for my
> horrendous Magic Pink Pony artwork.
>
> Just so you can rest secure in the fact that you've promoted really crappy
> art at the expense of a bunch of pretentious jackoffs and tickled a few
> SubGenius ribs along the way.
>
> THAT is the TRUE ART I'm trying to create. A living mural of pissed-off
> pinks.
And there is no art more praise worthy or honorable in my mind then that of
pissing off pinks. Baffling, stupefying and dumbfounding pinks, while being
good things and fun to do, can't compare with pissing them off.
-Col. Sphinx Drummond TWSR
> Legume wrote:
>
> > THAT is the TRUE ART I'm trying to create. A living mural of pissed-off
> > pinks.
>
> And there is no art more praise worthy or honorable in my mind then that of
> pissing off pinks. Baffling, stupefying and dumbfounding pinks, while being
> good things and fun to do, can't compare with pissing them off.
I find installing baffles on Pinks pisses them off real nice like.
http://www.silentsource.com/baffles.html
>
>"Kevan" <cut...@shreve.net> wrote in message
>news:5q025ukng6rhp33j2...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 19:44:18 -0800, "Two Beans"
><twob...@godhatesyou.com> from
>> NHGH Outreach Ministry wrote:
>>
>> >No one's lieing about anything. No one here is a racist, you kike.
>>
>> Oh, look, the little "yeti" is trying to be funny.
>>
>> Try harder, little one! Just keep sayin to yourself, "I think I
>can," like that
>> little train you read about the other day.
>
>Just like the K$$%# when he's trying to be funny.
Little k-job has never been funny, all he does is whine, and tell us
how right he is.
ignore him and he'll go away
> Good points, doktor, but what's the friggin' difference now? Capitalism
> co-opted "Art" a LOOONG time ago. All that's generally left are the independent
> thrills that creep in around the edges, such as the delish evils of Saint Legume
> or people glancing sideways in disgust at my Fraidy "Bob" Tattoo. The only stuff
> that hits the mark is guerilla works and the mega-rare gems with only modest,
> pop claims to the title to begin with, such as "Invader Zim."
>
> The best art is never marketed, but only seen & enjoyed by you, yer friends or
> a limited local exposure. The minute rent-paying money enters the picture, the
> smell of warm cheese or Frenchmen rises and clogs the room. Just ask Stang about
> the huge mansion he lives in as a result of BotSG sales. The one in the middle
> of the frop fields of Dobbstown, where we all ride the monorail to the Xanadu
> Cafe for space cakes every morning at 2 p.m.? Yeah, that'un.
>
> The line between crap and real Art is so thin you can roll a photon down it.
> And "Bob" straddles that line, yee haw.
>
> Besides, only HIS crotch can handle it.
>
> HellPope Huey, hellpo...@subgenius.com
> When a buzzard sits on the fence and stares at you,
> it's time to go to the doctor
I'm up to my gills in the visual arts, I've seen the corporate
marketing(mall galleries, animation art) of artwork, I've seen the
promotion of artists via the gallery system, I've seen
freelancers,I've seen itinerant weekend art fair artists, I've seen
the grant grubbers, and the guerilla self marketers. Let me tell you,
artists who choose to attempt to make a living as an artist sacrifice
a lot for it. Most of them, even some of the most talented ones never
make it.
Mostly because they can't, won't or don't know how to promote their
work enough to get it to 'sell'. Getting it to 'sell' means either
literal sales to people who want to decorate their house or own an
aesthetic object or 'sell' it to government agencies and arts
foundations for grant support of their lifestyle.It's very hard for an
artist to learn the skills they need to do that and THAT, my friend,
is where the stink you mentioned begins. The stink is the tension
between compulsion to just create and the inevitability of keeping a
roof over the your head. I agree completely. That stink will still be
there, probably much stronger, when said artist can't do his art work
and has to mop the floors at the 7-11. The only difference is that the
7-11 isn't an art gallery. (There's another stink. That's the stink of
elitism, but that's another rant.)
In my opinion, there are many artists (musicians, writers,
painters,dancers etc.) that should be able to make a living at just
making art.Culturally,they are very valuable people, and even if what
they do isn't considered 'real work', or a majority of the population
doesn't get it yet, they should be supported.
The successful emerging artists these days are mostly the ones who
have a sort of guerrilla self promotion. They don't wait for pennies
from heaven they just go get it. They spend about half of their
working time on grant writing, finding art consultants to represent
them, updating that web page, organizing shows of their own art, while
schmoozing up to the galleries and museums that they want to get into.
There are also a lot of artists who are using the shock publicity
stunt as an art form. Jeff Koons and Cicciolina, Damian Hirsch with
his cow cut in half, and the guy who did the light switch piece at the
Tate museum fall into that category. It's not really art. It's more of
a sociological manipulation of media, the museums, the galleries, and
the public. (and the act manipulation needed to hire someone to cut a
cow in half and preserve it in a plexiglass display box) It's just a
stunt, an attention getter. Kitsch.
It's a seductive trap. We had an incident at our local museum. One of
the paintings was of breakfast cereal characters in the place of the
apostles in a parody of the Last Supper with Mrs. Butterworth as
Jesus. I decided to send a picture of that piece to the press along
with a sampling of other pieces in the show because I thought it would
be less dry and would bring more families to the museum to see the
exhibit. The newspaper used the picture of "Last Pancake Breakfast"
and we started getting a ton of angry phone calls and a petition from
the congregation of a local catholic church. The director of the
museum sent out a press release that said we were getting flack over
the painting and the media went ballistic. Partly, because it happened
at the same time as the Yo Mama's Last Supper by Rene Cox in New York
that Giuliani got all huffy about.
As much of a media circus as it was, it was VERY beneficial to all of
the artists in the show. The artist of the painting sold a few of his
prints, and postcards, and was interviewed on CNN and seen in every
english speaking country. The editor of the book on Chicago artists
that the show was based on sold tons of books. I had a lot of fun
getting swept into it and getting on t.v. The museum had record
attendence. A guy threatened to shoot us for showing the painting. It
was a minor whitebread scandal that got way out of hand. The whole
thing was an absurd circus. No wonder artists stoop to manipulating
the media and the public to get their name out.
HeadMrs. Salacia the Overseer
Keeper of the Seven Squeals & Director of Programming
Branch Salacians
You know how much a membership in the NAACP costs? $30. Is it coincidence, or...?
Coincidence. Sadly, that time in the NAACP showed me that Blacks could
be just as Pink as us white honky mofos.
> The successful emerging artists these days are mostly the ones who
> have a sort of guerrilla self promotion. They don't wait for pennies
> from heaven they just go get it. They spend about half of their
> working time on grant writing, finding art consultants to represent
> them, updating that web page, organizing shows of their own art, while
> schmoozing up to the galleries and museums that they want to get into.
This is the part I despise the most. I absolutely LOATHE self-
promotion. Weird coming from someone everyone thinks is a goddamn
egomaniac, but it's true. It always feels two steps below streetwalking
for crack. It makes me very uncomfortable to demand the spotlight. I
hate advertising devivals and events. Part of me--irrationally, I
know--thinks that if I were so goddamned good, I shouldn't HAVE to pimp
myself. The other half despairs at the idea of putting out 250 posters,
two back-page ads, and hundreds of post cards, just to get 50 people to
show up at a devival. It's the kind of thing I've wanted to talk about
for some time but I didn't want to deal with people telling me that I
have to promote myself if I want anyone to show up, and I certainly
don't need to deal with assholes calling me an egomaniac with the next
breath.
I'm depressed as fuck right now, can't you tell?
Lil
Timmy Macgillicuddy
Age 8
"Legume" <no...@yerbiz.com> wrote in message
news:Xns91A1F3E9C091Co...@24.12.106.199...
> HellPope Huey wrote:
>
> > Good points, doktor, but what's the friggin' difference now?
> > Capitalism
> > co-opted "Art" a LOOONG time ago. All that's generally left are the
> > independent thrills that creep in around the edges, such as the delish
> > evils of Saint Legume or people glancing sideways in disgust at my
> > Fraidy "Bob" Tattoo. The only stuff that hits the mark is guerilla
> > works and the mega-rare gems with only modest, pop claims to the title
> > to begin with, such as "Invader Zim."
>
> And that's exactly why you should go to renderosity.com and vote for my
> horrendous Magic Pink Pony artwork.
>
> Just so you can rest secure in the fact that you've promoted really crappy
> art at the expense of a bunch of pretentious jackoffs and tickled a few
> SubGenius ribs along the way.
>
> THAT is the TRUE ART I'm trying to create. A living mural of pissed-off
> pinks.
>
>
> --
> Dr.Legume
>
> "The idea of you dead and horribly mutilated turns me on."
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Hey Lil, have you been to my site, yet? Check it out!
Pearls before swine, Darling.
You are doing it, because you love what you're promoting and because
you have something good to share.
HeadMrs. Salacia the Overseer
Keeper of the Seven Squeals & Director of Programming
Branch Salacians
"No Nukes....Duh!"
-Hellpope Huey
> Did you know that 'they' *eat* PUSSY there, too? I mean, in Europe?
Some eat it while it's coated in blood. I've got videos of THAT too.
> Pearls before swine, Darling.
> You are doing it, because you love what you're promoting and because
> you have something good to share.
Yeah, it just sucks that sharing is like pulling teeth--it's almost an
imposition just to tell people, "Hey, check out what I've done
here...."
But as I am still feeling depressed days later, to Hel with those
feelings of imposition. Indeed, "FUCK IT", as "Bob" suggested to me
that one time....
http://foolspress.com/gallery/gallery.html
I'll soon have http://cafepress.com/foolspress up soon, but there are
links to the OLD CafePress stores in the Gallery.
BUY SOMETHING DAMN IT! Show this (literally!) poor, despondent,
UNEMPLOYED SubGenius that you appreciate her art and rants by
appreciating it UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL, with your MONEY, and make this
cult the Church Of Sales that it was always meant to be!
GET ON TH' DAMN PHONE! *storms off camera for hours*
Her Ladyship Lilith
> I'll soon have http://cafepress.com/foolspress up soon, but there are
> links to the OLD CafePress stores in the Gallery.
>
> BUY SOMETHING DAMN IT! Show this (literally!) poor, despondent,
> UNEMPLOYED SubGenius that you appreciate her art and rants by
> appreciating it UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL, with your MONEY, and make this
> cult the Church Of Sales that it was always meant to be!
>
> GET ON TH' DAMN PHONE! *storms off camera for hours*
http://cafepress.com/foolspress is up and fully functional, linking all
six of my Fools' Press stores together under one URL. ALSO, since you
can shop at multiple CafePress.com stores with one shopping cart, there
are links to the SubGenius Foundation store as well as Dr. Legume's
Bazaar Of The Bizarre. Now you have no excuse not to give us ALL money.
Note that the store links in the Fools' Press gallery are temporarily
down but will be fixed posthaste.
yes.
ketchup beings is funny.
--
the system is down.