conceptual art questions
Glenn Knickerbocker
artist who existed only conceptually, a celebrity who anyone could become
simply by claiming to be him. There were dozens of web pages dedicated to
him, some by him, some just about him. What was his name?
Somewhat later, maybe in 1993, I didn't buy a book that I saw while
Christmas shopping, on the assumption that people who knew me would be
shopping in the same store where it was prominently displayed. It was a
half-height paperback with a bright green cover about this kind of
conceptual art, what I think it termed "info-art," art that exists only in
the flow of information, not in any particular piece of information. The
one specific name that sticks in my mind from it is Blankman, I think
because it was given more than the one-page treatment most other works
got. Anybody remember the book, who it was by, what it was called?
¬R "If I was man enough I'd come on your
stump." --Robyn Hitchcock, "Wax Doll"
http://www.bestweb.net/~notr/dreams.poems.html
Hilbert Hooper Aspaspia
Glenn Knickerbocker wrote:
> A long time ago on this newsgroup I remember reading about a conceptual
> artist who existed only conceptually, a celebrity who anyone could become
> simply by claiming to be him. There were dozens of web pages dedicated to
> him, some by him, some just about him. What was his name?
Iceknife.
Glenn Knickerbocker
>> simply by claiming to be him. There were dozens of web pages dedicated to
>> him, some by him, some just about him. What was his name?
>Iceknife.
I! . . . AM! . . . KIROK!
I! . . . AM! . . . ICE! . . . KNIFE!
I! . . . AM! . . . KIROK!
kevbob
Jan 2000 13:03:17 GMT with
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always looking for more content.
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David Gerard
:A long time ago on this newsgroup I remember reading about a conceptual
:artist who existed only conceptually, a celebrity who anyone could become
:simply by claiming to be him. There were dozens of web pages dedicated to
:him, some by him, some just about him. What was his name?
Zangelding, of the Zangelding Consortium. Do a web search.
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ICEKNIFE
Hilbert Hooper Aspaspia wrote in message <38923DCB...@adelphia.net>...
>
>
>Glenn Knickerbocker wrote:
>
>> A long time ago on this newsgroup I remember reading about a conceptual
>> artist who existed only conceptually, a celebrity who anyone could become
>> simply by claiming to be him. There were dozens of web pages dedicated
to
>> him, some by him, some just about him. What was his name?
>
oh shut up.
one doesn't claim to be me, then suddenly become me.
*I* decide who I'll infest.
yoo ASSHOLE.
ICEKNIFE
David Gerard wrote in message <8719m0$6lf$9...@thingy.apana.org.au>...
>
>:A long time ago on this newsgroup I remember reading about a conceptual
>:artist who existed only conceptually, a celebrity who anyone could become
>:simply by claiming to be him. There were dozens of web pages dedicated to
>:him, some by him, some just about him. What was his name?
>
>
SEE, dummies?
I *TOL'* ya it wuznt me!
It's a damn good thing I love you all so much...
you shouldn't have to die at the hands of a STRANGER.
Glenn Knickerbocker
>Zangelding, of the Zangelding Consortium. Do a web search.
Nah, I like Zangelding as much as the next guy, but this was somebody with
a first and last name, both very English.
"I believe the children are our future: nasty, brutish and short."
ŹR http://www.bestweb.net/~notr/dreams.poems.html \ --The Onion
David Gerard
:On 30 Jan 2000 12:09:36 GMT, David Gerard wrote:
:>Zangelding, of the Zangelding Consortium. Do a web search.
:Nah, I like Zangelding as much as the next guy, but this was somebody with
:a first and last name, both very English.
Don't care. ZANGELDING is the way. Zangelding is the LIGHT. Zangelding is
the finest thing ever invented. Finnish quality at its finest.
ICEKNIFE
ICEKNIFE wrote in message ...
>>
>>> A long time ago on this newsgroup I remember reading about a conceptual
>>> artist who existed only conceptually, a celebrity who anyone could
become
>>> simply by claiming to be him. There were dozens of web pages dedicated
>to
>>> him, some by him, some just about him. What was his name?
>>
>
>
>oh shut up.
>
>one doesn't claim to be me, then suddenly become me.
>
>*I* decide who I'll infest.
>
>
>yoo ASSHOLE.
Hey, who do you mean, him or me?
I really don't have to take this from you! uh, me!
ALLA THEM FUCKERS, GODDAMIT!
ICEKNIFE
Glenn Knickerbocker wrote in message ...
>On 30 Jan 2000 12:09:36 GMT, David Gerard wrote:
>>Zangelding, of the Zangelding Consortium. Do a web search.
>
>Nah, I like Zangelding as much as the next guy, but this was somebody with
>a first and last name, both very English.
Oh, him. That'd be Peter Hipwell, which is the nom du net
of famous science fiction author Kilgore Trout.
Teresa Knezek
ICEKNIFE wrote:
Yeah right.... like Kilgore Trout would be social enough to post on usenet.
Who d'ya think yer foolin'?
--
-Rev. Knezek
Boddhisatva Troutwaxer
Except that Kilgore Trout was the alter ego of another science
fiction writer. Phillip K. Dick, I think. But if you read "Breakfast
of Champions" and "Good Morning Mr. Rosewater" by Kurt Vonnegut,
you'll learn that Kilgore Trout began life as a fictional character.
So, first, a fictional character, then an alias. Can you get
promoted from alias to real person? I wonder... nope.
Of course, that's because I killed him.
Troutwaxer!!
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Hyper B Orean
Glenn Knickerbocker <No...@bestweb.net> wrote:
> A long time ago on this newsgroup I remember reading about a
conceptual
> artist who existed only conceptually, a celebrity who anyone could
become
> simply by claiming to be him. There were dozens of web pages
dedicated to
> him, some by him, some just about him. What was his name?
Are you referring to Luther Blissett, the famous italian multiple non-
entity and football player who has been noted (apart from writing
books) for stealing church sculptures in order to demand their return
for money from the church for the poor communities?? Now **that's**
great conceptual art.
The italians are good at this sort of trick, there was an even better
example in the 70s when a famous situationist wrote a 'how-to-save-
italian-capitalism' type tract that was widely discussed until he outed
himself as the author. I have a reference to that but i'm too lazy to
dig it out.
You know, if JR "Bob" Dobbs wasn't so REAL, and the members so STUPID,
the Church of the SubGenius would also be great conceptual art.
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Before you buy.
Teresa Knezek
Boddhisatva Troutwaxer wrote:
> Teresa Knezek wrote:
> >
> > ICEKNIFE wrote:
> >
> > > Glenn Knickerbocker wrote in message ...
> > > >On 30 Jan 2000 12:09:36 GMT, David Gerard wrote:
> > > >>Zangelding, of the Zangelding Consortium. Do a web search.
> > > >
> > > >Nah, I like Zangelding as much as the next guy, but this was somebody with
> > > >a first and last name, both very English.
> > >
> > > Oh, him. That'd be Peter Hipwell, which is the nom du net
> > > of famous science fiction author Kilgore Trout.
> >
> > Yeah right.... like Kilgore Trout would be social enough to post on usenet.
> > Who d'ya think yer foolin'?
>
> Except that Kilgore Trout was the alter ego of another science
> fiction writer. Phillip K. Dick, I think. But if you read "Breakfast
> of Champions" and "Good Morning Mr. Rosewater" by Kurt Vonnegut,
> you'll learn that Kilgore Trout began life as a fictional character.
I know the name from Vonnegut, but I had no idea anyone actually used the name as
a nom de plume...
--
-Rev. Knezek
Boddhisatva Troutwaxer
Yeah, it was sold as a paperback under the name "Venus on the Half
Shell." I can't for the life of me remember who the science fiction
writer actually was, but I think it was Phillip K. Dick. Anyway, the
author is on the back wearing very long, unkempt, fake white hair and
beard. My guess is that if you want it, you'll have to wrestle it out of
some science fiction fans cold dead fingers!!
Troutwaxer
Peter Hipwell
>
> Boddhisatva Troutwaxer wrote:
>
> > Teresa Knezek wrote:
> > >
> > > ICEKNIFE wrote:
> > >
> > > > Glenn Knickerbocker wrote in message ...
> > > > >
> > > > >Nah, I like Zangelding as much as the next guy,
> > > > >but this was somebody with
> > > > >a first and last name, both very English.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, him. That'd be Peter Hipwell, which is the nom
> > > > du net of famous science fiction author Kilgore
> > > > Trout.
> > >
> > > Yeah right.... like Kilgore Trout would be social
> > > enough to post on usenet.
> > > Who d'ya think yer foolin'?
> >
> > Except that Kilgore Trout was the alter ego of another
> > science fiction writer. Phillip K. Dick, I think. But
> > if you read "Breakfast of Champions" and "Good Morning
> > Mr. Rosewater" by Kurt Vonnegut, you'll learn that
> > Kilgore Trout began life as a fictional character.
>
> I know the name from Vonnegut, but I had no idea anyone
> actually used the name as a nom de plume...
I think it's the pen name of MONTY CANTSIN.
Neoism.
Damn, I finally GOT THE ANSWER.
Monty Cantsin.
Right?
Peter Hipwell
>
> Yeah, it was sold as a paperback under the name "Venus on
> the Half Shell." I can't for the life of me remember who
> the science fiction writer actually was, but I think it
> was Phillip K. Dick.
^^^^^^^
YM "Jose Farmer" HTH.
> beard. My guess is that if you want it, you'll have to
> wrestle it out of some science fiction fans cold dead
> fingers!!
Don't bother.
Boddhisatva Troutwaxer
>
> Boddhisatva Troutwaxer wrote:
> >
>
> > Yeah, it was sold as a paperback under the name "Venus on
> > the Half Shell." I can't for the life of me remember who
> > the science fiction writer actually was, but I think it
> > was Phillip K. Dick.
> ^^^^^^^
> YM "Jose Farmer" HTH.
Of course!!
> > My guess is that if you want it, you'll have to
> > wrestle it out of some science fiction fans cold dead
> > fingers!!
>
> Don't bother.
It wasn't a great book, but it was a funny one, and probably a
collector's item given the circumstances under which it was published
Troutwaxer
Peter Hipwell
>
[Re: "Venus on the Half Shell."]
>
> It wasn't a great book, but it was a funny one, and
> probably a collector's item given the circumstances
> under which it was published
>
www.bibliofind.com reveals it went through at least
9 printings attributed to "Kilgore Trout", and was
reprinted in '88 under Farmer's name. Shouldn't be
too hard to pick up a copy, then.
ICEKNIFE
Peter Hipwell wrote in message <38A95D08...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk>...
>Boddhisatva Troutwaxer wrote:
>>
>
>> Yeah, it was sold as a paperback under the name "Venus on
>> the Half Shell." I can't for the life of me remember who
>> the science fiction writer actually was, but I think it
>> was Phillip K. Dick.
> ^^^^^^^
> YM "Jose Farmer" HTH.
>
>> wrestle it out of some science fiction fans cold dead
>> fingers!!
>
>Don't bother.
Philip Jose Farmer. Another cookie for Meter Clipwelt!