I didn't vote for either of the big Parties; I recognize that they both take
money from our corporate overlords and then run our country based on payback
for funds received. I am not outraged that Bush was inaugurated just
because I don't like his Party. It doesn't matter WHO won, the fact is that
VOTES WENT UNCOUNTED BY ORDER OF THE HIGHEST COURT IN THE LAND. [As opposed
to the usual procedure of local politicians in back rooms secretly not
counting the votes, aware but unconcerned that their actions are illegal,
immoral, and un-American.]
To my mind, this is a significant evolution in the level of Conspiracy
action, a transformation from Their previous 200-year scheme of
manufacturing consent from the witless dupes enslaved to the consumer
machine, to a new, EVEN MORE ORWELLIAN realm in which not even the PRETENSE
of Democracy need be maintained. Push came to Shove, the Con was in the
spotlight, backed into a corner, and when the Six Million Dollar question
was asked, "Do our votes really count?", the Con took the money and ran.
This is frightening for many reasons.
First, the media will be contorted to the breaking point trying to cover up
the ongoing protests [Did you see any protestors along Bush's route to his
"Texas Inauguration" on the news? Over a hundred were there.] while
simultaneously trying to find a juicy story! We'll be hearing more "tight
bathing suit" jokes from Dan Rather, so keep a stiff drink by your TV if you
watch the news.
Second, people all over the country are rising up to join grassroots
groups -- awakening to their potential as individuals, but without any
Dobbsian training to aid them during this difficult time! This awakening of
the populace should have come on OUR terms, on REAL issues like robots,
Slack, and nekkidity.
Third, stealing makes the Baby Jesus cry.
And Fourth, once the Con goes "so far", it almost never steps back again.
This year, it was an election decided by Supreme Court Fiat. Next year, who
knows? Mandatory ankle-length skirts, perhaps. Clitorectomies. No-knock
Complete Destruction warrants. There's no limit to the depraved imagination
of the Conspiracy.
Oh, and Fifth: Bush is OBVIOUSLY the Anti-Christ. "Charming" [to other
fascist whites], controls the world [well, he could destroy it], whore to
the oil industry... all the pieces fit. We'll know for sure when fire
starts raining from the sky.
Keep your SubGenius Items handy to be protected by their Luck Shells! You
might want to paper your walls and ceilings with whole copies of The Book of
the SubGenius -- write the Foundation for quantity discount information.
>Oh, and Fifth: Bush is OBVIOUSLY the Anti-Christ. "Charming" [to other
>fascist whites], controls the world [well, he could destroy it], whore to
>the oil industry... all the pieces fit. We'll know for sure when fire
>starts raining from the sky.
You know I SINCERELY believe that the reason President Guuber the
Talking Horse (pbuh) sent bombers into Iraq is because he is a TRUE
BELIEVING CHRISTIAN and he wants to trigger the beginning of the
apocalypse, which was DELAYED by the SATANIC liberal intern-boinking
lefty humanist etc. etc.
Really, this is no shit. Those fuckers are NUTS! I've got to of them
arguing back and forth in that crossposted thread I did and they're
both going "YOU'RE GOING TO BURN IN HELL ON JUDGEMENT DAY!" and then
the other one goes "NO, -YOU'RE- GOING TO BURN IN HELL ON JUDGEMENT
DAY!" ... -AND THEY REALLY BELIEVE THIS SHIT-!
I'm just sayin' ...
--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com
Jesus has returned with a rusty coat hanger
- The Rev. Ivan Stang
Sig by Kookie Jar 5.98d http://go.to/generalfrenetics/
Absolutely brilliant Mary.
You know, ten years ago, when I first read the BOTSG I thought it was
cool. The whole bit about how the giant corporations and the religions
would join together to destroy the last vestiges of happiness were kinda
fun - it was a cool, hip, and funny piece of social commentary which I
really enjoyed. But recently I read it again, and it sounded kinda like
prophecy - scary prophecy. The real stuff of horror, all of it ultimately
brought about by pink food tubes who don't understand that their vote
counts, who can't, or won't comprehend science, or arguements that
won't fit into a sound bite, who think that they deserve pain because
they're in pain.
Like Mary said, these food tubes have voted in a guy who just might launch
the REALLY BAD missiles just because he believes that the time for
apocalypse has come.
Sadly enough, that makes the Church less fun. It used to be a place where
I could go to get away from reality, not a place where the worsening
condition of the world would get thrown up in my face.
So I've been asking myself what it means to be a SubGenius. Obviously the
fun part is over. While kids may not be sticking broomsticks up their
butts, (as described in the Dateline for Dominance,) the reality is that
Amerika, and everyplace else as well, is being turned into some kind of
Capitalist/Christian fusion that will soon utterly repress all rationality
while it uses the mind war techniques of Scientology to control the
masses. The hard, serious core of Dobbs prophecy is coming true, and Bush
(or maybe Ashcroft or Cheney) is obviously the anti-"Bob."
Strange as it may have seemed ten years ago, we've actually got the best
analysis available of what's going on. We have far better techniques for
attacking the conspiracy than those available to the "activists." So what
do we do now? Do we hole up and wait for the saucer ships? Do we go out
fighting? Do we lend our artistic info-war techniques to the Green Party
and pray we're not too late? Do we sell out? Do we organize one last,
twisted, conspiracy frightening joke that might just make all the
difference?
What, if anything, do we owe the world, and is there something better to
do than sit on a ledge and party while the bombs go off?
T.
Ahhh, back in 1860 I bet they wrung their hands the same way when that
other dude "won but didn't WIN".
The tragic effects of that decision are played out in the remake of Wild
Wild West (the one with Will Smith in it). Damn near hadda give back
Louisiana to the froggies!
I don't think Boosh has anything to do with the Apocalypse. For one
thing, I read my Scripture and he's short a few horns. Course, he ain't
dropped trou on TV just yet, so I'm not sure. Besides, before I voted,
I asked the lady, was W in fact the AntiChrist, and she said NO.
If she was wrong, then I'm with you, dear, the CON has really got some
balls. But this is why I've become a SubG. I knew in the eyes of the
CON nothing we do really counts. Including our votes! Nothing counts,
that is, except SLACK.
And I've learned to have SLACK even wearing the yoke of the CON at my
desk in my tiny poorly lit cubicle working in a godless governmental
fiscal place where the only thing that means anything to anyone is
piling $$$ in huge piles so it can be redistributed to do its evil work
the next day.
We won't be a complete democracy until, by Dobbs, ROBOTS do the voting!
Trouble is, there'll have to be several centuries of wars before the
robots finally choose between some mix of democracy, socialism,
communism, monarchy. No doubt, scores of high schools will eventually
bear the names of the founding robots, too, along with a large portion
of minority models of robots living in the projects.
There will probably be a couple of models of darker metal robots that
live in the desert and one model will probably take over the oil
business and the other one will take over the banks, diamond trade,
legal profession, and the deli business. And they'll still be fighting
one t'other even though the majority of world robots are living OK in
relative lubrication under the big system they have developed.
Why I bet there will be models of robots that get free maintenance, even
for the older series. And then, robots that will steal spare parts from
other robots and sell them to obtain better lubrication. And robots
that live in comparatively tiny storage facilities but get to eat really
nice bakery.
I've learned my lesson. Come 2004, I am going to go out and buy a Sony
general purpose household automatonoid and have it modified to do my
voting for me. No doubt the technology will be there!
From that point on, it'll be like the homicide stories in Cleveland,
just robots killing robots, and who gives a fuck about the damn robots
anyhow...
[*]
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<snip>
This from alt.prophecies.nostradamus. No attributions given.
Thursday the Day the Middle East Stepped Back from the Brink
Feb. 23:
Very few people knew how close the Middle East came on Thursday Feb.
22 to
exploding in a regional war. At 6 am., Israel placed its forces on
high
missile readiness after being alerted by US intelligence to movements
by 6
Iraqi armored divisions deployed close to frontier with Syria.
American
satellites additionally picked up Iraqi preparations for launching
long-range surface missiles. DEBKAfile's sources disclose the trigger
of
this sequence: a warning from a European government, probably Britain,
to
Iraqi intelligence that Israel would not again sit still and wait for
Iraqi
missiles to rain down on its towns as it did in the 1991 Gulf War. It
planned to pre-empt any missile attack by knocking out Iraqi missile
concentrations on the ground, as well the 6 armored divisions poised
for
advance since early in the Palestinian intifida. This Iraqi strength,
Saddam was told, would be disposed of swiftly with the help of small
neutron
bombs. Iraqi decision-makers were impressed enough to test American
and
Israeli reflexes: they pushed ahead with technical preparations for
the
launching of surface missiles, taking them up to one stage before
Saddam's
firing order.
Israel received the information that the missiles would be ready for
that
last button to be pushed at 6 pm Thursday evening.
One hour earlier, 2 US Awacs and 4 Hawkeye- A2C spyplanes, and another
36
assorted US and British fighter craft, took off from the Turkish base
at
Incherlik and from US Navy carriers in the region, and headed for
Iraq's
Western Desert. Their mission was to flatten Saddam's surface missiles
the
moment the spyplanes reported them operational.
Opposite Syria's Mediterranean coast, Israeli Air Force craft took off
at
the same time. As they crossed over the desert, the US and British
airborne
flotilla ran into fierce anti-air missile fire from batteries emplaced
north
of the Iraqi oil city of Mosul altogether 35 missiles were fired.
The
allied fighters blasted the Iraqi batteries in return but caused very
little
damage.
A few minutes after 6 pm, everyone started breathing upon learning
that the
Iraqi surface missiles had become stationary. Israel called off its
missile
alert at 19.30 hours, as DEBKAfile reported half an hour later.
Thursday's scare can be expected to recur in the coming days and
weeks.
President Bush hinted as much when he warned Saddam at his Washington
news
conference Thursday Feb. 22 that if he developed weapons of mass
destruction
there would be consequence. But the US President knows very well that
the
Iraqi dictator is already engaged in developing those weapons,
including a
nuclear bomb. Jan. 22, two days before he took his seat in the Oval
Office,
the New York Times, under the heading "Iraq Rebuilt Weapons Factories,
Officials Say" filled several columns with a rundown on production at
an
industrial complex in Falluja, west of Baghdad, together with
information
contained in reports laid before the new president. The paper quotes
officials are providing details on the reconstruction of three
factories,
all of which were previously involved in producing chemical or
biological
agents and were closely monitored by UN inspectors.
Bush therefore has all the information he needs to justify US military
action against Iraq, and his use of the word "consequences" indicates
his
intention of doing so. Thursday's events were a foretaste of how the
US-Iraqi confrontation may affect Israel. There is more and possibly
worse
to come.
Earlier, DEBKAfile Picks up Four Ominous Developments in Last Hours
The security picture pieced together by DEBKAfile on the strength of
information from its American and Israeli intelligence sources and
from
Israel military quarters looks like this:
1. Early Thursday morning, US satellites picked up Iraqi
ground-to-ground
missiles moving west with launching equipment. US intelligence
estimates
that the missiles would be ready for launch by the evening prompted
Israel
to place all its security forces on the ready Thursday morning.
2. According to fresh reports from certain Arab capitals, Syrian
president
Beshar Asad has reached a strategic decision. This is interpreted in
two
ways: He has either agreed to grant the 6 Iraqi armored divisions
deployed
on the Iraqi-Syrian frontier passage through his country, or given the
Hizballah the nod to unleash a long-range rocket attack against
northern
Israel or both. This development is behind the grave warning the US
and
Israeli governments issued to the Syrian government Thursday morning.
The
night before, Northern Israeli towns and villages were warned to
prepare for
long-range rocket attacks from Lebanon.
3. Palestinian sources confirm 1. and 2. and refer to unusual
Palestinian
military activity in the last 24 hours. In view of these reports, and
the
spreading word of Palestinians plans to bring out heavy weapons,
Israeli
units have reportedly stepped up their sorties into
Palestinian-controlled
Areas A. DEBKAfile's sources learn that a massive Palestinian
terrorist
attack may be programmed as the starting signal for a regional
flare-up.
4. The combined American-British air raid last Friday missed its
essential
target: a command and control center 20 miles north of Baghdad for the
coordination and dispatch of both anti-air and ground to ground
missiles.
The allies had intended to pre-empt Saddam Hussein, following
intelligence
of his decision to launch missile-attacks on Israel, Saudi Arabia and
Kuwait. The failed air raid strengthened Saddam's resolve. Now, he his
determined to go to war without delay, before the Western allies
reduce his
missile-launching capability.
Thank you.
> You know, ten years ago, when I first read the BOTSG I thought it was
> cool. The whole bit about how the giant corporations and the religions
> would join together to destroy the last vestiges of happiness were kinda
> fun - it was a cool, hip, and funny piece of social commentary which I
> really enjoyed. But recently I read it again, and it sounded kinda like
> prophecy - scary prophecy. The real stuff of horror, all of it ultimately
> brought about by pink food tubes who don't understand that their vote
> counts, who can't, or won't comprehend science, or arguements that
> won't fit into a sound bite, who think that they deserve pain because
> they're in pain.
That happens to everybody sometimes. That's when you need to stop reading
the scary parts and read again the parts about SURFING the Luck Plane and
Getting Slack in a post-post-modern world.
>
> Like Mary said, these food tubes have voted in a guy who just might launch
> the REALLY BAD missiles just because he believes that the time for
> apocalypse has come.
>
I think he just wants to blow up Iraq. Still pathological? Yes. But
thankfully less apocalyptic than blowing up the whole planet (I don't think
they let him near the REAL "button" anyway).
> Sadly enough, that makes the Church less fun. It used to be a place where
> I could go to get away from reality, not a place where the worsening
> condition of the world would get thrown up in my face.
>
It's GOODBAD. It's horrible, and yet we MUST laugh ANYWAY, lest we lose our
Slack. I'm sorry if I "harshed your mellow", but I just want to make sure
that no one forgets what happened, 'cause I think it was as important as
Kennedy... only instead of making a Sixth Floor Museum, the media wants
everyone to forget that anything unusual happened.
Let me recap: The Supreme Court Republican-Appointed Majority decided that
it was more important to provide a quick resolution to a situation they felt
could lead to a national crisis, than it was to count every ballot marked
with a clear choice for President. My question is: how was it an "impending
crisis" when almost everyone I know couldn't even be bothered keeping track
of the news from day to day, depending on occassional sound bytes to keep
them informed of the "battle over florida".
> So I've been asking myself what it means to be a SubGenius. Obviously the
> fun part is over. While kids may not be sticking broomsticks up their
> butts, (as described in the Dateline for Dominance,) the reality is that
> Amerika, and everyplace else as well, is being turned into some kind of
> Capitalist/Christian fusion that will soon utterly repress all rationality
> while it uses the mind war techniques of Scientology to control the
> masses. The hard, serious core of Dobbs prophecy is coming true, and Bush
> (or maybe Ashcroft or Cheney) is obviously the anti-"Bob."
>
The fun part is NEVER over! Being a SubGenius means that you MUST HAVE
SLACK! OR KILL ME! Finding the Slack in our modern space-age-a-go-go
society is the hard part. That's why it's good we have this handy message
board to help us trade Slack tips and tricks, almost like an army of
horribly mutated Martha Stewarts unleashed on an upscale mall.
> Strange as it may have seemed ten years ago, we've actually got the best
> analysis available of what's going on. We have far better techniques for
> attacking the conspiracy than those available to the "activists." So what
> do we do now? Do we hole up and wait for the saucer ships? Do we go out
> fighting? Do we lend our artistic info-war techniques to the Green Party
> and pray we're not too late? Do we sell out? Do we organize one last,
> twisted, conspiracy frightening joke that might just make all the
> difference?
I think what you're supposed to do is:
Repent, Quit Your Job, and Slack Off.
But you could always fuck a squirrel-filled pumpkin instead.
>
> What, if anything, do we owe the world, and is there something better to
> do than sit on a ledge and party while the bombs go off?
>
I think when the bombs actually go off, you're supposed to put your head
between your knees...
> T.
>
It might be that, but I see it more like that Bush think's he's Hamlet or
something -- Saddam humiliated his dad, and now it's payback time. I think
what he wants is to destroy the Hussein dynasty completely and set up a
US-dependent democracy in Iraq, then head to Crawford to go fishin and work
out for the remaining time on his term. I don't think Bush's "christianity"
ever enters his mind in terms of helping him make real-world decisions.
It's just a database of memorized prayer-bites to him. The Bible never says
that the anti-christ can't be a moron who has no idea of his role in
Armageddon.
> Really, this is no shit. Those fuckers are NUTS! I've got to of them
> arguing back and forth in that crossposted thread I did and they're
> both going "YOU'RE GOING TO BURN IN HELL ON JUDGEMENT DAY!" and then
> the other one goes "NO, -YOU'RE- GOING TO BURN IN HELL ON JUDGEMENT
> DAY!" ... -AND THEY REALLY BELIEVE THIS SHIT-!
>
The weird thing is that they WANT an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-judging
creature of Vengeance to exist! Sounds to ME like a bunch of goddam
SATANISTS.
>
>
> I'm just sayin' ...
> --
Yah.
This is a little different -- that time, Congress worked out a compromise,
which is OK because it's a wheelin-dealin-type place. That's why there's
like five hundred people in it. Making compromises is what it was designed
to do. This time it was the Court and that ain't right because they're not
supposed to take sides, and there's only nine of them! Sheeeit, almost
anybody can buy a majority of only nine people!
> I don't think Boosh has anything to do with the Apocalypse. For one
> thing, I read my Scripture and he's short a few horns. Course, he ain't
> dropped trou on TV just yet, so I'm not sure. Besides, before I voted,
> I asked the lady, was W in fact the AntiChrist, and she said NO.
>
> If she was wrong, then I'm with you, dear, the CON has really got some
> balls. But this is why I've become a SubG. I knew in the eyes of the
> CON nothing we do really counts. Including our votes! Nothing counts,
> that is, except SLACK.
>
Well I may be wrong about Bush being the anti-christ, like I said we'll see
what comes. All I'm saying is that it's just that much more creepy when
they SAY on TV, we're going to stop counting the votes now, even though we
know there's more of them out there. When they did that stuff secretly, it
was just regular crook behavior. This was freaky.
> And I've learned to have SLACK even wearing the yoke of the CON at my
> desk in my tiny poorly lit cubicle working in a godless governmental
> fiscal place where the only thing that means anything to anyone is
> piling $$$ in huge piles so it can be redistributed to do its evil work
> the next day.
>
Preach it Brotha!
<Robot Prophecy snipped>
Robots do NOT come alive and kill people, dammit! That's just a popular
movie premise! It's no more real than BARNEY!!! And Praise Dobbs, BARNEY'S
NOT REAL!!!
<moan>
The Christians have to have their destiny in their hands.
Grantland
Jesus, man, you don't want some OTHER religion taking over, do you???
[*]
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I still contend that it's a lose-lose-lose scenario. The
CON not only controls the politics, it also controls the
dissent. If you were to rant on camera that "Dumb-ya" is
filling out his staff with Skull-and-Bones cronies, they
would have you on the evening news protesting his economic
policies. Go ahead, complain to the people who distorted
what you just said, they'll just twist it further.
Protesting against them is as much a waste of time as
supporting them. The one thing that you can do is *sneer*
at them. Laugh at their death camps. Crack jokes at their
wars. Snicker when they ca-ca in their Armanies.
Don't take them seriously. If you don't accept the notion
that they are in charge, they aren't, any more than the
schoolyard bully is in charge of the classroom when the
alien teacher is inserting the brain-sucking devices into
*everyone's* skull.
Oh sure, during recess he might pound your face, but back
in class it's the same old "shlurp-shlurp-shlurp."
--
"Violence in the pursuit of Greed is no Sin."
Well, you can join a new list I set up to Prank the Bush Coup on April 1,
2001:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/prank
We've already got 32 subscribers in two days (including Aron Kay, the Pie
Man) and you don't even have to become a subscriber to get involved.
Thanx to Rev. Magdalen for her Xpositions on the coup.
>> Absolutely brilliant Mary.
>>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>> You know, ten years ago, when I first read the BOTSG I thought it was
>> cool. The whole bit about how the giant corporations and the religions
>> would join together to destroy the last vestiges of happiness were
>> kinda fun - it was a cool, hip, and funny piece of social commentary
>> which I really enjoyed. But recently I read it again, and it sounded
>> kinda like prophecy - scary prophecy. The real stuff of horror, all of
>> it ultimately brought about by pink food tubes who don't understand
>> that their vote counts, who can't, or won't comprehend science, or
>> arguements that won't fit into a sound bite, who think that they
>> deserve pain because they're in pain.
>
> That happens to everybody sometimes. That's when you need to stop
> reading the scary parts and read again the parts about SURFING the Luck
> Plane and Getting Slack in a post-post-modern world.
That's good advice. Thanks
>> Like Mary said, these food tubes have voted in a guy who just might
>> launch the REALLY BAD missiles just because he believes that the time
>> for apocalypse has come.
>
> I think he just wants to blow up Iraq. Still pathological? Yes. But
> thankfully less apocalyptic than blowing up the whole planet (I don't
> think they let him near the REAL "button" anyway).
You mean that's Cheney's job? Or Ashcroft's? That's even worse. Or, in the
long tradition of (vice) Presidential wives doing something, maybe Lynn
Cheney has her finger on the button... Still Scary.
>> Sadly enough, that makes the Church less fun. It used to be a place
>> where I could go to get away from reality, not a place where the
>> worsening condition of the world would get thrown up in my face.
>>
>
> It's GOODBAD. It's horrible, and yet we MUST laugh ANYWAY, lest we lose
> our Slack. I'm sorry if I "harshed your mellow",
No, I've been thinking about this stuff for a couple months now. You
merely provided the impetus to write about it.
> Let me recap: The Supreme Court Republican-Appointed Majority decided
> that it was more important to provide a quick resolution to a situation
> they felt could lead to a national crisis, than it was to count every
> ballot marked with a clear choice for President. My question is: how
> was it an "impending crisis" when almost everyone I know couldn't even
> be bothered keeping track of the news from day to day, depending on
> occassional sound bytes to keep them informed of the "battle over
> florida".
That's OK, they depended on sound bites to tell them who to vote for as
well.
> The fun part is NEVER over! Being a SubGenius means that you MUST HAVE
> SLACK! OR KILL ME! Finding the Slack in our modern space-age-a-go-go
> society is the hard part. That's why it's good we have this handy
> message board to help us trade Slack tips and tricks, almost like an
> army of horribly mutated Martha Stewarts unleashed on an upscale mall.
Yeah, imagine all of us heading out of Brushwood one July morning and
finding the nearest mall (Which is probably in Buffalo) and invading it.
Maybe some of us could dress up in some kind of futuristic policeman's
uniform and loudly arrest the other half on the charge of being Democrats
and Witches, or wearing shorts.
>> Strange as it may have seemed ten years ago, we've actually got the
>> best analysis available of what's going on. We have far better
>> techniques for attacking the conspiracy than those available to the
>> "activists." So what do we do now? Do we hole up and wait for the
>> saucer ships? Do we go out fighting? Do we lend our artistic info-war
>> techniques to the Green Party and pray we're not too late? Do we sell
>> out? Do we organize one last, twisted, conspiracy frightening joke that
>> might just make all the difference?
>
> I think what you're supposed to do is:
>
> Repent, Quit Your Job, and Slack Off.
>
> But you could always fuck a squirrel-filled pumpkin instead.
SubGenius weasel legging, film at eleven.
>> What, if anything, do we owe the world, and is there something better
>> to do than sit on a ledge and party while the bombs go off?
>>
>
> I think when the bombs actually go off, you're supposed to put your head
> between your knees...
I can't reach my own ass. Can somebody out there help?
T.
Then how do you account for Purple? I'm convinced he's Barney.
By the way, wouldn't it be nice if Purple came out for Bush in the next election?
T
Yeah, that Syrian fuck is another one who needs a Harpoon through his
front door.
http://www.geocities.com/dearkandb/dontmakefun.html
T.
In article <NL0m6.296897$ge4.10...@news2.rdc2.tx.home.com>, "Rev.
Well, I'm glad that some Subs are reading up. The Bush Brothers' Banana
Republic website cited above is allied with my own efforts and they just
recently posted my Bush Coup Rant:
http://www.coup2k.com/bushcouprant.html
The Diva runs the site and she has finally got herself away from the
problems of geocities.com and now has a private server for her stuff:
http://www.coup2k.com
Unfortunately, CounterCoup.org, the website that I maintain, is still on
geocities.com only. But go to this page for great anti-coup linx anyway:
http://www.geocities.com/countercoup/supporter.htm
In a way, a woman called Rose Rose has started a sort of anti-coup clench,
called fringefolk:
http://www.fringefolk.com
Each of these websites has various discussion lists on yahoogroups.com for
deeper involvement. Fun, fun, fun!
Actually, historically, protesting is an effective means for progressive
change as part of an overall strategy, which is not aimed at the media, per
se, but at the hearts and minds of the masses. The civil rights era is a
significant example of this; it led to various other movements of
empowerment and had measurable effects.
Acknowledge it or don't, but intellectuals have a responsibility to affect
change in society and that responsibility is enhanced by privilege; your
level of education, ability to communicate on a mass level, first amendment
protections, etc.
Yeah, some Germans laughed and sneered at Hitler as his regime committed all
the atrocities, perhaps even some socialists did so as well. But that type
of limited dissent is more like "radical" surrender to me.
Gore wanted to keep up the corporate/liberalism model in the US for a while
longer. Bush and his pals scrubbed that whole structure and have instituted
a very direct form of fascism. This very desperate act by very desperate men
was done because the policies were too unpopular, but they felt they must be
enacted at any cost. Instead of standing up with the people, Gore cravenly
acceded to the coup and conceded. As Bertolt Brecht said: "Dissolve the
people."
>
>Boddhisatva Troutwaxer <tung...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>news:Fg2m6.498$8X.2...@news.pacbell.net...
>>
>> What, if anything, do we owe the world, and is there something better to
>> do than sit on a ledge and party while the bombs go off?
>>
>
>I think when the bombs actually go off, you're supposed to put your head
>between your knees...
>
When the bombs go off, I plan to put my head between SOMEBODY'S knees.
Talk about your golden opportunities, you know?
--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com
La reine est un fromage!
I would, but then we'd have to get married.
>
>iDRMRSR <alex.i...@depression.org> wrote in message
>news:E7DAC8F4C5E40DB4.1882E124...@lp.airnews.net...
><Robot Prophecy snipped>
>
>Robots do NOT come alive and kill people, dammit! That's just a popular
>movie premise! It's no more real than BARNEY!!! And Praise Dobbs, BARNEY'S
>NOT REAL!!!
You're absolutely right about the robots.
But don't turn your back on B-rney, my sister. You just aren't seeing
the whole iceberg.
--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com
To me, it's always a good idea to always carry two sacks of
something when you walk around. That way, if anybody says, "Hey,
can you give me a hand?," you can say, "Sorry, got these sacks."
- Jack Handey
Grantland, it's so weird because I KNOW they speak English where you are,
but I have never, just NEVER understood what the HELL you are on about.
Please try to add explanatory sentences in the future.
Well now nu-monet's got a good point though. If no network is going to SHOW
the public your protest, then its effect will be limited to the few thousand
people in the location where it took place, and the few thousand fellow
activists that seek out protest information. That's why I'm working on my
own tactic -- trying to convince Dick Gephardt that publicizing protests is
a GREAT way for him to GET MORE CHICKS and relive his youth, but this time,
with POWER!!!
> Yeah, some Germans laughed and sneered at Hitler as his regime committed
all
> the atrocities, perhaps even some socialists did so as well. But that type
> of limited dissent is more like "radical" surrender to me.
Our Mockery is a very powerful weapon. Any regime can justify shutting down
a close-knit group holed up in a bunker with a cache of automatic weapons --
obviously a group like that is a danger to SOMEONE, possibly society, so
people say "Ok, that was bloody but necessary." But NO one, not even the
ANTI-CHRIST can STAND to be seen as someone with no sense of HUMOR. The
Conspiracy MUST "take" our Jokes, because taking jokes AWAY is the ONE thing
that the sleeping masses REFUSE to allow.
> Gore wanted to keep up the corporate/liberalism model in the US for a
while
> longer. Bush and his pals scrubbed that whole structure and have
instituted
> a very direct form of fascism. This very desperate act by very desperate
men
> was done because the policies were too unpopular, but they felt they must
be
> enacted at any cost. Instead of standing up with the people, Gore cravenly
> acceded to the coup and conceded. As Bertolt Brecht said: "Dissolve the
> people."
>
>
Gore is no angel. His wife's a screamin' fascist too. His Party's bought
and paid for. But he obviously paid attention in college, and is aware that
in the year 2001 America does NOT in fact "rule the world," and our Allies
have the right to have their own opinions, and you're not going to stop
women from getting abortions so you might as well make them legal, and other
rational, moderate thoughts like that. Which sucks. Because what we WANT is
someone who is basically a SuperHero -- super smart, super good, super lucky
who will fix everything and bring about the World of Slack that we SubGenii
KNOW could exist if only our current tech and resources were rearranged and
used the RIGHT way. Basically, that's what would happen if "Bob" were
President. {But if we can't have "Bob", then maybe Dean Kamen. He's got
his own ISLAND and TWO helicopters!!!}
Dubya is living out a Greek Tragedy and using our people and our money as
PROPS in a Grand Scheme of his father's design. I always KNEW Ol George H W
was fuckin CREEPY. He's been PLOTTING all this damn time! What a psycho!
He still gots one term left, whyn't he run his own damn self instead of
livin' vicariously through his poor kids. I tellya, it's just all fucked up
with them. I feel for Dubya. Dubya didn't want to be President, his Dad
MADE him! Dubya just wants to work out, take naps, and fish while enjoying
the fruits of his inherited wealth. I can identify with that. Dubya's like
all those youths in rock songs whose fathers try to make them be clones of
themselves, only it's obvious that in this case, George HW used his
privileged access to Agency-grade mind-control devices to ensure that his
sons stuck with the program and didn't run off to become anguished rock
stars.
Hmmm... I wonder if that means that if you shout random words and phrases at
Dubya, you might hit on the access words so you could program him yourself!
I ran it through babelfish. They didn't have a 'Grantland' setting so
I made do. What he's -really- saying is:
With the person of Christianity that they destiny is has the interior
they give
HTH
--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com
La reine est un fromage!
I bracketed all the Conspiracy "catch words". Gee, what a selection.
Progressivism, Vietnamification, Marxist, Racial Modernist and
Politically Correct. As to the argument, I DO NOT oppose discordian-
style protest: greeting Bush with protest signs calling for an end
to war with Mars; what I DO object to is CON vs. CON vs. CON
arguments.
> Yeah, some Germans laughed and sneered at Hitler as his regime
> committed all the atrocities, perhaps even some socialists did
> so as well. But that type of limited dissent is more like
> "radical" surrender to me.
You still only see the two sides to the equation. Either Nazi or
anti-Nazi. Only two. No other arguments permitted. Nope. Can't
hear them. Must not work at all. Unless they're one side or the
other. If they're not black and white, if they're confusing, they
don't count and can be ignored. Disregard all that is not normal.
Normality only permits two arguments. Thesis and Antithesis must
must form Synthesis. Cannot permit extraneous data. Non-sequitor.
Help me Norman. Help me Norman.
Voting costs more of your soul than having your picture taken.
What would Chomsky say?
He might say that there is something to Cartesian thinking; that it is very
rational.
What would Ken Kesey say?
He might say you're either on the bus or off the bus.
What would Pete Seeger say?
He might say which side are you on, boy?
I've got a very good handle on what is effective and not effective, because
I've been working at it so long. It's a veritable sixth sense to me. Once in
while I do research on it and find that I'm amazingly right on target.
But I'm also very aware how little people will involve themselves in what
actually needs to be done, because of the rack of socialization we've be
tied to in this society. They don't teach you political organizing in
school. They don't teach you about the class-based nature of society. No,
you need to go deeply underground to learn the most elementary things about
how to get out of the mess we're in.
So, it's easy then for post-modernist-types to say that there is no
solution. That all organization is merely a power trip. That nothing is
ultimately comprehendable.
And that there are innumerable easy to understand,
simple, wrong answers to every complex situation.
Chomsky--Kesey--Seeger, gee, what a trinity of
vacuousness. I hate to give credit to discordians,
in that they are so *messy*, but their doctrines
have validity.
If you start with the axiom that organization must
be created to overthrow organization, you have already
failed by becoming that which you seek to overcome.
Some of the *first* people supressed by the Nazis
were those they just couldn't understand. Not their
sworn and bitter enemies, but those who worked beyond
their comprehension. For even the Nazis understood
intuitively that surrealism and bizarre humor was a
greater threat than organized opposition.
The "underground" you embrace is a self-appointed,
self-anointed inteligensia-because-we-say-so. They
are so interwoven with 'the system' that they even
have uniforms, doctrines, hymns, pledges, and an
outdated philosophy. They are the loyal party of
opposition.
They believe in the CON. They also believe that the
CON would be even better if THEY were in charge.
I will not endorse one CON to replace another. Nor
will I join the CON in opposing the CON. For no matter
what CON rules, I will be there, chipping away at its
feet of clay, pestering, annoying and always working
just beyond their comprehension. Just beyond their
understanding. And they will never get it. And they
too shall fall.
Der Führer ist ein Käse.
Believe in the cow. BELIEVE.
--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com
"There are many kinds of 'truths' and consequently there is no truth"
- Nietzsche
> Strange as it may have seemed ten years ago, we've actually got the best
> analysis available of what's going on. We have far better techniques for
> attacking the conspiracy than those available to the "activists." So what
> do we do now? Do we hole up and wait for the saucer ships? Do we go out
> fighting? Do we lend our artistic info-war techniques to the Green Party
> and pray we're not too late? Do we sell out? Do we organize one last,
> twisted, conspiracy frightening joke that might just make all the
> difference?
>
> What, if anything, do we owe the world, and is there something better to
> do than sit on a ledge and party while the bombs go off?
>
> T.
>
i'm basically a paranoid freak and i'm hesitant to even mention the thoughts
that were going thru my head in the moments before 7am july 5th 1998.
but i will anyway.
and may "Bob" have mercy on my soul if some sick "visionary" fucker uses
this as inspiration......
i awaken to the sounds of jesus calling out to the faithful of brushwood
with his divine bullhorn.
slowly a crowd gathers in the pavilion.
the magick moment approaches.
but apparently we were not told the whole story.
not only do we need our holy membership cards to board the saucers, but
there is now talk of drinking the "kool-aid" that is being passed out from a
large cooler.
it's insisted that this is a necessary ingredient of the rupture.
as i mentioned, i'm a paranoid freak and this new development is kicking
that paranoia into a fucking frenzy...
i begin to casually walk away from the pavilion and up onto the small hill
by the pool building to distance myself from this unexpected turn of events.
i'm walking up and talking to a pagan girl who is playing with her small son
in the sand but more to the point i'm thinking about the kool-aid thing.
just a few of the possibilities...
A] it's just one more fun little joke for the amusement of the faithful, a
parody of jonestown
this is the normal, sane, mundane, yuk yuk possibility
or
B] the whole church is a cia/nsa/fbi black ops program designed to ferret
out radical nonconformists, revolutionaries and other undesireable types for
the purposes of programming and or killing them in convenient little
incidents like this. basically a replay of jonestown, orchestrated by the
men in black and made to look like another wacko cult gone wrong
[ the followup to this thought is "ok, i'm not drinking that shit but what
is going to happen next? once my brethren start dropping dead?" visions of
jonestown arise again, running thru the jungle, fleeing the scene, being
gunned down by the death squads in place all around the perimeter of
brushwood and then being dragged back to the pavilion to be piled up with
all the other corpses. there can be no survivors in this scenario... ]
or
C] and this is the option that actually relates to Boddhisatva Troutwaxer's
post wherein he said...
"Do we organize one last, twisted, conspiracy frightening joke that might
just make all the difference?"
the church IS for real. these ARE the end times. this is the true end times
religion. this world is going straight to hell. this IS real poison kool-aid
but you MUST drink it because the future of mankind depends on it. this
shocking multiple suicide by 400 [ or whatever the actual number was ]
fanatical subgenii will be one of the pivotal events in mankinds history. a
sort of modern day crucifixion. a protest against the con like no other.
the media will spread the face of "Bob" across the planet. latent subs the
world over will be exposed to the church. it will be remembered for a
thousand years as the turning point. that moment in time when a planet
awoke. humanity realized what a deathtrap the world had become and what to
do about it. the con would crumble. the cities would shake with the voices
of a billion subs crying out "i'm mad as hell and i'm not going to take it
anymore" .
we would be the matyrs. the saints of the revitalized subgenius religion
that would spring up in our wake. the future would recall how we gave our
lives unflinching, "for the children", so that humanity might be shocked
out of it's sleep and the apocalypse narrowly averted.
[delusions of grandeur anyone?]
at any rate..
my refusal to partake of the "kool-aid" could be endangering the entire
plan. if there was not complete compliance with the suicide ritual it could
turn the whole thing into just another fiasco. a cult gone wrong. an
egomaniac leader. a cia brainwashing experiment gone bad. messiness. bullet
holes. coercion. this shit could dilute the intensity of our sacrifice. it
might suggest that we were actually not completely dedicated to the church.
people might have less inclination to learn what it was about the church
that we found so compelling, so inspiring, so right and so necessary that we
would give our very lives to bring it's message to the planet.
400 subgenii in...
400 subgenii lay down and die in complete harmony with no doubts , no second
thoughts, no coercion whatsoever. simply because it was the divine will of
J.R. "Bob" Dobbs. in His infinite wisdom he had laid the groundwork for a
media blitz like no other. a drama. a passion play. an event which would be
the necessary catalyst to push humanity back from the edge of the cliff
which it found itself peering over.
even if i knew paranoid delusion "C" was the real story i'd be hard pressed
to join in the suicidal party.
seriously.
if i KNEW for a fact that my sacrifice would break the grip of the con on
this planet and allow for a new golden age of freedom and exploration but
that i wouldn't be around to enjoy it, would i do it? i'd like to think i
would but it's too hard to say for sure. and i'd have to be damn sure it was
going to work.
damn sure.
another option even more horrendous still loomed at the edge of
probability...
D] the church is for real, but in a very literal sense.
the saucers of the sex goddesses ARE actually about to land [or at least
beam us aboard] and i'm going to MISS it because i'm a paranoid little girly
man and i don't want to drink the kool-aid! my $20 don't mean shit. i must
drink the psychadelicized kool-aid in order to phase shift into the
alternate reality where the pleasure saucers await [ or some other similar
rationalization].
this is actually the most painful of all the possibilities to contemplate.
in a sense it could be the explanation for why i'm still on this planet. if
i had consumed the beverage in question i would have been whisked away. but
instead i acted out of fear. and thus diverged from the timestream which DID
include the rupture. my fellow subgenii WERE taken up into the saucers in
their reality but in my reality stream it never happened. it was all a big
funny joke.
the church is for real and in a very literal sense. but subgenii self select
their ascension thru works of faith and power. my fear used the very cosmic
force of the rupture to "create my own reality" and in fact created around
me a mundane joke-church world.
where
...noone died.
...noone was ruptured
...i was a paranoid nutcase and would be driving back home to reappear at my
day job and explain to my coworkers how we didn't REALLY think we were
going to get picked up by saucers and how it was all just for laughs. an
excuse to get naked and have a party.
in other words i would be back in human hell.
and it would be my own damn fault.
the con would continue to crush the life from everything it touched. the
world would continue to deteriorate.
i would get old and sick, maybe be mugged by rowdy youngsters, beaten and
left for dead. or maybe choke on some hideously polluted air. or maybe the
bombs would start going off or the chemical nightmares would be unleashed
and the flesh would boil off my bones.
so all these options are spinning thru my head over the course of several
minutes and...
well...
it's hard to say exactly what transpired.
but contemplating the possibilities was HEAVY shit.
from sex goddesses to deathsquads to time travelling messiahs and doomsday
cults.
death, failure and missed opportunities.
a splitting of the multiverse into diverging pathways. probabilities.
or maybe just nothing...
i didn't drink the kool-aid.
i continued to observe.
i tried to keep an open mind.
i didn't actually EXPECT to rupture.
nor did i expect my fellow subgenii to drop dead from drinking the stuff.
but one never knows.
even in the sanest world some lone individual could easily have spiked the
cooler with something deadly.
maybe to some greater purpose or maybe for no reason at all.
and this wasn't exactly the sanest world.
these people [ and myself] were all confessed weirdoes to begin with and i
really knew very little about them. one agent of the conspiracy is all it
would take to turn our good thing into a death cult.
anyway...
in MY reality bubble
the saucers failed to arrive,
stang was tarred and feathered.
and the rest is history.
rev i
ps...
as soon as this group starts to become "real" it will attract the attention
of the men in black.
alt.slack is probably already monitored continuously [along with the rest of
the net] and i can only assume there are agents of the conspiracy aware of
the churches every move. while stang plays the jester he is safe but as soon
as he advocates anything seriously he will be a dead man.
it wouldn't surprise me to see a mass suicide/execution of subgenii in the
future either.
and what better time then x-day when many are gathered together in one
convenient isolated location.
[did i mention i'm a paranoid freak?]
i think the book of the subgenius is either divinely inspired [or
masterfully subliminally enhanced] and has a perfectly balanced blend of
fact and fiction. any more fact and it becomes threatening to the elite. any
more funny haha shit and it becomes southpark or the simpsons. good for a
laugh but hardly worth dying for.
right now it's riding the razors edge.
Show him the Queen of Diamonds and he'll bark like a dog.
T..
[snip]
>He's the FIRST son of a
>former Prez to BECOME Prez in AMERICAN HISTORY!
Uh, no. There are two Presidents named Quincy. One was the son of
the other. But both of them are long dead, so if they made a deal
with the devil, than he called it due already.
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