oh yeah...right after Stang brings this up and everyone has a grand old time making fun of it....you decide to mention it....either you have no idea whats goin on or, wait.... you are a stupid freak...why am I talking to you.... by the way your wife does look like a drag queen, and I am so happy that she can't practice medicine in Canada anymore nice of her to run off to California when the heat was closing in
have a nice delusion...you poor excuse for a meat sack and PS why dont you *get in contact* with someone worth talking to....McBlooben was infectious waste...there are so many other important dead people to talk to and you spend time *pretending* to channel this nutless whackjob....well done...
Ankara
Oh AND FOR THE LAST TIME....YOUR NAME IS NOT BOB DOBBS.....I HAVE OLD SOCKS THAT WOULD MAKE A BETTER "BOB" THAN YOU and futhermore.... DIE CUM-STAIN
"purple" <pur...@tellurian.com> dropped this shite:
<uh-...@somewhere.com> wrote: > oh yeah...right after Stang brings this up and everyone > has a grand old time making fun of it....you decide to mention > it....either you have no idea whats goin on or, wait.... > you are a stupid freak...why am I talking to you.... > by the way your wife does look like a drag queen, and > I am so happy that she can't practice medicine in Canada anymore > nice of her to run off to California when the heat was closing in
> have a nice delusion...you poor excuse for a meat sack > and PS why dont you *get in contact* with someone worth > talking to....McBlooben was infectious waste...there > are so many other important dead people to talk to > and you spend time *pretending* to channel this nutless > whackjob....well done...
> Ankara
> Oh AND FOR THE LAST TIME....YOUR NAME IS > NOT BOB DOBBS.....I HAVE OLD SOCKS THAT > WOULD MAKE A BETTER "BOB" THAN YOU > and futhermore.... > DIE CUM-STAIN
> "purple" <pur...@tellurian.com> dropped this shite:
Subject: Re: But What's Not Even on Doug's radar. From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgeniusNOSPUM.com> Newsgroups: alt.slack Reply-To: st...@subgeniusNOSPUMMY.com Date: Tue, Apr 6, 2004 10:36 AM
> Interesting information. Now who is the Doug that is in such need of > this information, and what is your interest in it?
That would be the Doug that he doesn't think about (as he constantly reminds us). My "human street name" is Doug Smith. Look me up -- I'm in every phone book in every city! It's no big secret, although I've been using the somewhat more realistic-sounding pen name of Ivan Stang for 25 years.
Princess Wei, referenced in one of his other repeat-posts of the same link, is my wife. His third header, regarding "Dr. Synaesthesia," is a clumsy reference to Dr. Sinister of Synaesthesia Radio, a friend of mine with whom I share air-time occasionally (his show follows mine in the local broadcast, coincidentally with our Sunday night "IRC chat devivals").
This Bob Dean guy has been angrily not thinking about me for a long time, ever since I told him I didn't believe he was "Bob" Dobbs.
Imagine that. Me, the Sacred Scribe of the Church of the SubGenius, not believing he's the real J.R. "Bob" Dobbs. He had driven all the way from Toronto to Dallas to inform me of this, in 1988, so I can see how he'd be disappointed when I urged him to find another fake name. He WAS sitting in the same chair from which a previous insane visitor had already announced that HE was the Messiah, however, so it wasn't like I was hearing this sort of thing for the first time. I tried to be polite, but Dean never got over that rejection.
If you want to look inside the real "purple", here's a very good and representative recent interview with him, which he hasn't hawked here -- oddly, since it's the only recent interview with him that I know of.
I have no trouble admitting that I'm disgusted with this fellow, and I would think the reasons would be pretty obvious. However, I consider him more a mentally ill irritant than any kind of threat. It simply creeps me out. I hate to be reminded that the sweet Word of "Bob" can have such a ruinous effect on certain types of people.
Take a good look at him, and some of the other shrill nuts (not in the GOOD way, I mean) on this newsgroup, and you'll see why The Book of the SubGenius has warnings about false prophets, "Imabobs" and other "Mal-Aligned Pinks." The warning is, "DON'T BECOME ONE."
To cut to the quick, here's my favorite part of Bob Dean's latest rap. However, there are plenty of other glorious moments in the interview. It's a crackpot classic, with all the true-kook elements that were deliniated in the Aynhum thread, and then some. Don't miss his pronouncements about Atlantis and Early Man.
*****************************
RG: Is Pointdexter's device of extra-terrestrial origin or is it man-made?
BD: No, that machine is definitely man-made. McLuhan did confirm that there was an alien stuck in the device, but the device itself was made by Pointdexter's buddies.
RG: So could this device affect your perceptions to the point where you might imagine you're being mind controlled when you're really not?
BD: Yes, exactly. You might start believing, "Oh, I've got a chip inside me!" and thinking that's causing you to feel the way you're feeling. I'm trying to say, "Don't use those old reference points anymore." We're being zapped by things that are really beyond human ken. I mean, Pointdexter and them don't know that they're creating these affects and McLuhan showed up to this woman who could see ghosts so she would find me. We started doing instant messaging, and because I'm tapped they could see what was being said, and McLuhan was hoping they would read it and say, "Oh, McLuhan's talking about the device we're working on!" and then maybe become a little bit more aware of what's really going on.
RG: So he specifically went to you because he knows you're being listened to?
BD: I asked McLuhan, "Do they know it's the technology that's causing their illnesses?" and he said, "No, but they are beginning to suspect something's going on." Maybe they then read that and said, "Oh, it is this!" And then they probably kicked the shit out of it, took a baseball bat to it and said, "Fuckin' stop killing me!" Who knows what they did?
RG: So they weren't aware there was an alien inside it?
BD: No, they did not know, but they would read this transmission and that would give them a clue as to why they were feeling sick. ***********************************
(( Cue Twilight Zone music mixed with cuckoo clock sound effect.))
Note to Dean & Guffey: I now believe that Robert Guffey is a real person, and that he's exploiting your obessions for fun. Making fun of you. This interview shows you to be hilariously fucked up, and surely Guffey knows it.
Note to everybody else: Of course the real proof that Dean is crazy is that he doesn't believe that the world is going to end at 7 a.m. on July 5, 1998.
Subject: Re: But What's Not Even on Doug's radar. From: Joe Cosby <joeco...@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com>
Coffee enemas and Marshall Macluhan seances.
I don't mind the existance of idiots in the world, and all other things being equal I would be happy to see them go on being idiots. The punishment for being an idiot is being an idiot. Your medical license gets revoked, your radio program gets suspended, or whatever.
In my own life the only thought I have thunk about idiots at all is that they seem to inevitably desperately need to latch onto somebody who isn't an idiot, probably because they have radio programs which aren't suspended and medical licenses which aren't revoked and other things the idiot needs.
The idiot doesn't perceive the obvious, which is that if the non-idiots allowed the idiot to latch onto them, the idiot would ruin the non-idiot as surely as the idiot ruined himself. He doesn't see this because he's an idiot.
-- 4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti, Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.) P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528) A subsidiary of: The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 204206, Austin, TX 78720-4206 Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The Church of the SubGenius SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com For SubGenius Biz & Orders: call toll free to 1-888-669-2323 or email: je...@subgenius.com PRABOB
"Ankara" <uh-...@somewhere.com> wrote in message <news:_v5dc.714$4Y2.135@lakeread04>... > oh yeah...right after Stang brings this up and everyone > has a grand old time making fun of it....you decide to mention > it....either you have no idea whats goin on or, wait.... > you are a stupid freak...why am I talking to you.... > by the way your wife does look like a drag queen, and > I am so happy that she can't practice medicine in Canada anymore > nice of her to run off to California when the heat was closing in
> have a nice delusion...you poor excuse for a meat sack > and PS why dont you *get in contact* with someone worth > talking to....McBlooben was infectious waste...there > are so many other important dead people to talk to > and you spend time *pretending* to channel this nutless > whackjob....well done...
> Ankara
> Oh AND FOR THE LAST TIME....YOUR NAME IS > NOT BOB DOBBS.....I HAVE OLD SOCKS THAT > WOULD MAKE A BETTER "BOB" THAN YOU > and futhermore.... > DIE CUM-STAIN
On 4/8/04 1:34 AM, in article _v5dc.714$4Y2.135@lakeread04, "Ankara"
<uh-...@somewhere.com> wrote: > oh yeah...right after Stang brings this up and everyone > has a grand old time making fun of it....you decide to mention > it....either you have no idea whats goin on or, wait.... > you are a stupid freak...why am I talking to you....
Hehehehehehehe...
> by the way your wife does look like a drag queen,
I agree, she's HOT!!
and
> I am so happy that she can't practice medicine in Canada anymore > nice of her to run off to California when the heat was closing in
She came to New York, not L.A., before they tried to close in. She's kewl.
> have a nice delusion...you poor excuse for a meat sack > and PS why dont you *get in contact* with someone worth > talking to....McBlooben was infectious waste...there > are so many other important dead people to talk to > and you spend time *pretending* to channel this nutless > whackjob....well done...
I've talked to all the greats through the Evergreens since 1988. Name one and I bet I did it.
> Ankara
> Oh AND FOR THE LAST TIME....YOUR NAME IS > NOT BOB DOBBS.....I HAVE OLD SOCKS THAT > WOULD MAKE A BETTER "BOB" THAN YOU > and futhermore....
I agree. I'm not "Bob".
> DIE CUM-STAIN
You shouldn't REHEARSE the old dog-eared script in public.
<hellpopeh...@subgenius.com> wrote: > "Ankara" <uh-...@somewhere.com> wrote in message > <news:_v5dc.714$4Y2.135@lakeread04>... >> oh yeah...right after Stang brings this up and everyone >> has a grand old time making fun of it....you decide to mention >> it....either you have no idea whats goin on or, wait.... >> you are a stupid freak...why am I talking to you.... >> by the way your wife does look like a drag queen, and >> I am so happy that she can't practice medicine in Canada anymore >> nice of her to run off to California when the heat was closing in
>> have a nice delusion...you poor excuse for a meat sack >> and PS why dont you *get in contact* with someone worth >> talking to....McBlooben was infectious waste...there >> are so many other important dead people to talk to >> and you spend time *pretending* to channel this nutless >> whackjob....well done...
>> Ankara
>> Oh AND FOR THE LAST TIME....YOUR NAME IS >> NOT BOB DOBBS.....I HAVE OLD SOCKS THAT >> WOULD MAKE A BETTER "BOB" THAN YOU >> and futhermore.... >> DIE CUM-STAIN
> *Sniff* Man, that's really beautiful.
> H-Pee Huey
You'll be truly, oh-so-rarely embarrassed when you read my response.
"purple" <pur...@tellurian.com> um..like actually opened his mouth and said more stuff...that was stupid:
> >On 4/8/04 1:34 AM, in article "Ankara" said:
> > by the way your wife does look like a drag queen,
> I agree, she's HOT!!
NOT!! perhaps if she pulled the snakeskin covering her face a bit tighter...so as not to bunch up in places like it does....but then she might look more like Linda Tripp!....either way.....yikes dude....
> > I am so happy that she can't practice medicine in Canada anymore > > nice of her to run off to California when the heat was closing in
> She came to New York, not L.A., before they tried to close in. She's kewl.
kewl!!...kewl?? QUACK... was the word you were searching for
> > have a nice delusion...you poor excuse for a meat sack > > and PS why dont you *get in contact* with someone worth > > talking to....McBlooben was infectious waste...there > > are so many other important dead people to talk to > > and you spend time *pretending* to channel this nutless > > whackjob....well done...
> I've talked to all the greats through the Evergreens since 1988. Name one > and I bet I did it.
I think you need to have a long hard talk with yourself, instead...
> I agree. I'm not "Bob".
FINALLY..WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE!!!!
> > DIE CUM-STAIN
> You shouldn't REHEARSE the old dog-eared script in public.
There are no rehearsals...all my stunts are performed live!!! bitch..
> Abs, "you", remove this ImaDoug from the lobby.
imadoug?? IMA?? "but what he had to realize...was that the alien in white gloves....was himself"
keep trying skippy....you'll figure it out eventually... or you'll just die, and some other kook will have to contact you....heh
purple <pur...@tellurian.com> wrote in message <news:BC9B763F.5675%purple@tellurian.com>... > On 4/8/04 1:34 AM, in article _v5dc.714$4Y2.135@lakeread04, "Ankara" > <uh-...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> > oh yeah...right after Stang brings this up and everyone > > has a grand old time making fun of it....you decide to mention > > it....either you have no idea whats goin on or, wait.... > > you are a stupid freak...why am I talking to you....
> Hehehehehehehe...
> > by the way your wife does look like a drag queen,
> I agree, she's HOT!!
> and > > I am so happy that she can't practice medicine in Canada anymore > > nice of her to run off to California when the heat was closing in
> She came to New York, not L.A., before they tried to close in. She's kewl.
> > have a nice delusion...you poor excuse for a meat sack > > and PS why dont you *get in contact* with someone worth > > talking to....McBlooben was infectious waste...there > > are so many other important dead people to talk to > > and you spend time *pretending* to channel this nutless > > whackjob....well done...
> I've talked to all the greats through the Evergreens since 1988. Name one > and I bet I did it.
> > Ankara
> > Oh AND FOR THE LAST TIME....YOUR NAME IS > > NOT BOB DOBBS.....I HAVE OLD SOCKS THAT > > WOULD MAKE A BETTER "BOB" THAN YOU > > and futhermore....
> I agree. I'm not "Bob".
> > DIE CUM-STAIN
> You shouldn't REHEARSE the old dog-eared script in public.
> Abs, "you", remove this ImaDoug from the lobby.
> Bob Dobbs
HAHAHAHA! sweet. "die cum stain". that's just like the b-sharps, ...quite amusing at first, and soon afterwards, quite lame. how about embellishing it a bit? like "live cum stain", or "live, come stang", or "die! tungsten!". 'bob' is watching. imasubgenii. be angry. be very, very angry. tomorrow is july 1st, 1998. who wants to sit with me on the saucer? dibs on the window seat. oh yeah, and something about anal monkey sex, or depraved human behaviour should go here, in true subgenii fascion. note to self, wow, that was cool the way you blent fascist and fashion. do you think they'll get it?
> HAHAHAHA! sweet. > "die cum stain". that's just like the b-sharps, ...quite amusing at > first, and soon afterwards, quite lame. how about embellishing it a > bit? like "live cum stain", or "live, come stang", or "die! > tungsten!". > 'bob' is watching. > imasubgenii. be angry. be very, very angry. tomorrow is july 1st, > 1998. who wants to sit with me on the saucer? dibs on the window > seat. > oh yeah, and something about anal monkey sex, or depraved human > behaviour should go here, in true subgenii fascion. > note to self, wow, that was cool the way you blent fascist and > fashion. do you think they'll get it?
hehehe...as opposed to yours that started with no *funny* at all... and then...well...got lamer.... blent (sic) um....you *blent* something there...that's for sure... too bad it wasn't what you thought it was...
> In article <_v5dc.714$4Y2.135@lakeread04>, Ankara > <uh-...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> > oh yeah...right after Stang brings this up and everyone > > has a grand old time making fun of it....you decide to mention > > it....either you have no idea whats goin on or, wait.... > > you are a stupid freak...why am I talking to you.... > > by the way your wife does look like a drag queen, and > > I am so happy that she can't practice medicine in Canada anymore > > nice of her to run off to California when the heat was closing in
> > have a nice delusion...you poor excuse for a meat sack > > and PS why dont you *get in contact* with someone worth > > talking to....McBlooben was infectious waste...there > > are so many other important dead people to talk to > > and you spend time *pretending* to channel this nutless > > whackjob....well done...
> > Ankara
> > Oh AND FOR THE LAST TIME....YOUR NAME IS > > NOT BOB DOBBS.....I HAVE OLD SOCKS THAT > > WOULD MAKE A BETTER "BOB" THAN YOU > > and futhermore.... > > DIE CUM-STAIN
NO ! His name is what he defines it as such. YOU are not allowed to define this man's name. Who in the fuck are you, asshole? You steal "BOB"'s money and in your spare time you want to assign people's name to them, huh? Who in the fuck do you think you are? Last week you were trying to pass yourself off as important as the goddamn pope., you think you are playing the numbers, the odds, well motherfucker, lets see who plays the numbers, ok? I am gonna take the money out ya pocket myself.and ya know what , there ain't a goddamn thing you can do about it.NOT ONE THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT
> > Interesting information. Now who is the Doug that is in such need of > > this information, and what is your interest in it?
> That would be the Doug that he doesn't think about (as he constantly > reminds us). My "human street name" is Doug Smith. Look me up -- I'm in > every phone book in every city! It's no big secret, although I've been > using the somewhat more realistic-sounding pen name of Ivan Stang for > 25 years.
> Princess Wei, referenced in one of his other repeat-posts of the same > link, is my wife. His third header, regarding "Dr. Synaesthesia," is a > clumsy reference to Dr. Sinister of Synaesthesia Radio, a friend of > mine with whom I share air-time occasionally (his show follows mine in > the local broadcast, coincidentally with our Sunday night "IRC chat > devivals").
> This Bob Dean guy has been angrily not thinking about me for a long > time, ever since I told him I didn't believe he was "Bob" Dobbs.
> Imagine that. Me, the Sacred Scribe of the Church of the SubGenius, not > believing he's the real J.R. "Bob" Dobbs. He had driven all the way > from Toronto to Dallas to inform me of this, in 1988, so I can see how > he'd be disappointed when I urged him to find another fake name. He WAS > sitting in the same chair from which a previous insane visitor had > already announced that HE was the Messiah, however, so it wasn't like I > was hearing this sort of thing for the first time. I tried to be > polite, but Dean never got over that rejection.
> If you want to look inside the real "purple", here's a very good and > representative recent interview with him, which he hasn't hawked here > -- oddly, since it's the only recent interview with him that I know of.
> I have no trouble admitting that I'm disgusted with this fellow, and I > would think the reasons would be pretty obvious. However, I consider > him more a mentally ill irritant than any kind of threat. It simply > creeps me out. I hate to be reminded that the sweet Word of "Bob" can > have such a ruinous effect on certain types of people.
> Take a good look at him, and some of the other shrill nuts (not in the > GOOD way, I mean) on this newsgroup, and you'll see why The Book of the > SubGenius has warnings about false prophets, "Imabobs" and other > "Mal-Aligned Pinks." The warning is, "DON'T BECOME ONE."
> To cut to the quick, here's my favorite part of Bob Dean's latest rap. > However, there are plenty of other glorious moments in the interview. > It's a crackpot classic, with all the true-kook elements that were > deliniated in the Aynhum thread, and then some. Don't miss his > pronouncements about Atlantis and Early Man.
> *****************************
> RG: Is Pointdexter's device of extra-terrestrial origin or is it > man-made?
> BD: No, that machine is definitely man-made. McLuhan did confirm that > there was an alien stuck in the device, but the device itself was made > by Pointdexter's buddies.
> RG: So could this device affect your perceptions to the point where you > might imagine you're being mind controlled when you're really not?
> BD: Yes, exactly. You might start believing, "Oh, I've got a chip > inside me!" and thinking that's causing you to feel the way you're > feeling. I'm trying to say, "Don't use those old reference points > anymore." We're being zapped by things that are really beyond human > ken. I mean, Pointdexter and them don't know that they're creating > these affects and McLuhan showed up to this woman who could see ghosts > so she would find me. We started doing instant messaging, and because > I'm tapped they could see what was being said, and McLuhan was hoping > they would read it and say, "Oh, McLuhan's talking about the device > we're working on!" and then maybe become a little bit more aware of > what's really going on.
> RG: So he specifically went to you because he knows you're being > listened to?
> BD: I asked McLuhan, "Do they know it's the technology that's causing > their illnesses?" and he said, "No, but they are beginning to suspect > something's going on." Maybe they then read that and said, "Oh, it is > this!" And then they probably kicked the shit out of it, took a > baseball bat to it and said, "Fuckin' stop killing me!" Who knows what > they did?
> RG: So they weren't aware there was an alien inside it?
> BD: No, they did not know, but they would read this transmission and > that would give them a clue as to why they were feeling sick. > ***********************************
> (( Cue Twilight Zone music mixed with cuckoo clock sound effect.))
> Note to Dean & Guffey: I now believe that Robert Guffey is a real > person, and that he's exploiting your obessions for fun. Making fun of > you. This interview shows you to be hilariously fucked up, and surely > Guffey knows it.
> Note to everybody else: Of course the real proof that Dean is crazy is > that he doesn't believe that the world is going to end at 7 a.m. on > July 5, 1998.
> Subject: Re: But What's Not Even on Doug's radar. > From: Joe Cosby <joeco...@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com>
> Coffee enemas and Marshall Macluhan seances.
> I don't mind the existance of idiots in the world, and all other > things being equal I would be happy to see them go on being idiots. > The punishment for being an idiot is being an idiot. Your medical > license gets revoked, your radio program gets suspended, or whatever.
> In my own life the only thought I have thunk about idiots at all is > that they seem to inevitably desperately need to latch onto somebody > who isn't an idiot, probably because they have radio programs which > aren't suspended and medical licenses which aren't revoked and other > things the idiot needs.
> The idiot doesn't perceive the obvious, which is that if the > non-idiots allowed the idiot to latch onto them, the idiot would ruin > the non-idiot as surely as the idiot ruined himself. He doesn't see > this because he's an idiot.
> -- > Joe Cosby > http://joecosby.com/ > 'Surely you will sink: if you will not "Bob"'
> Eclesiectomies 130:13
> -- > 4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti, > Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.) > P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528) > A subsidiary of: > The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 204206, Austin, TX 78720-4206 > Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The Church of the SubGenius > SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com > For SubGenius Biz & Orders: call toll free to 1-888-669-2323 > or email: je...@subgenius.com > PRABOB
> oh yeah...right after Stang brings this up and everyone > has a grand old time making fun of it....you decide to mention > it....either you have no idea whats goin on or, wait.... > you are a stupid freak...why am I talking to you.... > by the way your wife does look like a drag queen, and > I am so happy that she can't practice medicine in Canada anymore > nice of her to run off to California when the heat was closing in
> have a nice delusion...you poor excuse for a meat sack > and PS why dont you *get in contact* with someone worth > talking to....McBlooben was infectious waste...there > are so many other important dead people to talk to > and you spend time *pretending* to channel this nutless > whackjob....well done...
> Ankara
> Oh AND FOR THE LAST TIME....YOUR NAME IS > NOT BOB DOBBS.....I HAVE OLD SOCKS THAT > WOULD MAKE A BETTER "BOB" THAN YOU > and futhermore.... > DIE CUM-STAIN
HIS NAME IS WHAT HE WANTS IT TO BE. AT LEAST, HIS NAME IS NOT TAKING MONEY OUT OF " BOB'S' POCKET. THIS MAN WAS A SUBGENIUS WHEN stang was still shitting yellow.
> oh yeah...right after Stang brings this up and everyone > has a grand old time making fun of it....you decide to mention > it....either you have no idea whats goin on or, wait.... > you are a stupid freak...why am I talking to you.... > by the way your wife does look like a drag queen, and > I am so happy that she can't practice medicine in Canada anymore > nice of her to run off to California when the heat was closing in
> have a nice delusion...you poor excuse for a meat sack > and PS why dont you *get in contact* with someone worth > talking to....McBlooben was infectious waste...there > are so many other important dead people to talk to > and you spend time *pretending* to channel this nutless > whackjob....well done...
> Ankara
> Oh AND FOR THE LAST TIME....YOUR NAME IS > NOT BOB DOBBS.....I HAVE OLD SOCKS THAT > WOULD MAKE A BETTER "BOB" THAN YOU > and futhermore.... > DIE CUM-STAIN
when you take on my friends, fuck you, take on me! gurdjieff of gormorrah
Yeah, get to work, you veritable army of rapier-witted soldiers.
-- 4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti, Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.) P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528) A subsidiary of: The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 204206, Austin, TX 78720-4206 Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The Church of the SubGenius SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com For SubGenius Biz & Orders: call toll free to 1-888-669-2323 or email: je...@subgenius.com PRABOB
> BEAT ME! WHIP ME! FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, JUST PAY -SOME KIND OF ATTENTION- TO > ME!
-- Joe Cosby http://joecosby.com/ "The ministry of communication is duty-bound to make the use of the Internet impossible." - Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar
On 4/8/04 9:34 AM, in article 080420040934511300%st...@subgeniusNOSPUM.com, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgeniusNOSPUM.com> wrote:
> Imagine that. Me, the Sacred Scribe of the Church of the SubGenius, not > believing he's the real J.R. "Bob" Dobbs. He had driven all the way > from Toronto to Dallas to inform me of this, in 1988, so I can see how > he'd be disappointed when I urged him to find another fake name.
I don't do long drives. We flew into Dallas from L.A. on Oct. 27/88 after helping to organize Mae Brussell's archive for a week and then attending her funeral in Carmel on Oct.7 or so, and subsequently spending 2 weeks at Gerry Fialka's home in Venice. Bob Marshall had done his famous interview with Zappa on Oct.21-22 which I attended. And I remember calling you from Gerry's to set up our second meeting (the first was accidental in Feb., 1978). During that phone call you requested I find out what Zappa thought of your Church. We took the Book of the SubGenius to him for Marshall's interview and left it on his coffee table. He was rewriting his autobiography at that time since he wasn't happy with Peter Ochiogrosso's version. He subsequently mentioned the Subs in the final version. But what I'm most proud of is the fact he ended the book with the data (in relation to AIDS) which I gave him from the book, A HIGHER FORM OF KILLING.
I never said to you at our meeting that I was J. R. "Bob" Dobbs. You assumed I believed that and said if there really was a J. R. "Bob" Dobbs, then I was the closest to what you had in mind (I didn't know what exactly you meant and you didn't specify, and being indifferent I didn't pursue the matter).
You did kindly show me your copy of the famous show of OUTER LIMITS featuring the XANTES (I think that was their name). What struck me at the time was that it was dated right around Nov.22/63. You could check if you still have it.
I didn't smoke the frop you offered.
But we did share a meal at some local favorite restaurant of yours or your wife's.
You didn't tell me to change my name. You may have felt that but didn't say it to me directly. You may have said it to others, including Myke Dyer. But Myke, the host of the show I was a biweekly guest on for 4 years (1987-91), certainly knew my name was not fake so he must have demurred. And the show went on.
Your former wife thought Connie was "a real treasure" and greatly appreciated the homeopathy information (about a homeopath in Texas she could get in touch with) that Connie gave her.
Overall you were a very gracious host.
So there you have it - the facts of that momentous occasion.
Bob Dobbs
P.S. This meeting is not to be confused with the one you had with Bob Marshall (or perhaps you thought it was "Bob Dean") which Dave Newfeld joked about in his letter to STEREO REVIEW (I think, I'm not near my archives right now) in early '93.
all of that bullshit could have been emailed to him in private and who would have given a shit but you,except you have this fucked up need to be linked to the guy in a public forum any way you can. this has been going on for how many years now mr. "indifferent"?
On 4/10/04 11:29 PM, in article e747f714.0404101929.44403...@posting.google.com, "Karl Marx"
<smellypoont...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > so, who fucking cares?
> all of that bullshit could have been emailed to him in private and who > would have given a shit but you,except you have this fucked up need to > be linked to the guy in a public forum any way you can. this has been > going on for how many years now mr. "indifferent"?
On 10 Apr 2004 20:29:03 -0700, smellypoont...@fastmail.fm (Karl Marx) wrote:
>so, who fucking cares?
>all of that bullshit could have been emailed to him in private and who >would have given a shit but you,except you have this fucked up need to >be linked to the guy in a public forum any way you can. this has been >going on for how many years now mr. "indifferent"?
100,000 years from now, human society will undoubtedly be so different from contemporary society, so different in technology, social structure, and world view, that our day-to-day thinking and activity will be as obscure and incomprehensible to them as the workings of neanderthal man are to us today.
Why did one group of them fly an airplane into a building occupied by members of this other group? Why did the other group fight a war in Iraq? Why are they so intently focussed on a small group of religions known as "political parties"? Why did they elect a chimpanzee as their ruler?
And WHAT is the Church of the Subgenius?
Because by that time, we will all have long-since flown away on the metal space craft of the X-Beings and won't be there to explain it.
What was this strange fringe religion? Did they REALLY NOT NOTICE that it's holy man was cut out of a comic book? Did they really have all the answers after all?
And they won't know the answers to these questions. Outside of a few obscure specialists operating in little-travelled byroads of their academia, there will be nobody who will even comprehend the questions.
But if they do manage to reconstruct our society at all. If they even CARE one way or another. If some genius among them is able to reactivate the crude electrically-fired magnetic artifacts which were our storehouse of knowledge, and to make sense out of the binary patterns encoded into them. If they can catalog the Internet and from that see where so much activity was centered during a few decades of their second millenium. And if in the process they are able to watch the day to day conversations and theological debates which constitute the Church of the Subgenius. And in doing so, some single soul from the year 189,843, alone but entranced in watching the very thought process of this strange but stirring long-forgotten race of another world happens to notice Bob Dean among them,
While he will not really grasp in any deep way the overall meaning of the times or our politics or beliefs or religion, Dean will present no mystery at all to him.
"What an asshole", he will think. "A waste of time, and nothing else"
And on that point, if none other, he will be correct.
-- Joe Cosby http://joecosby.com/ Laugh, and the world laughs with you Cry, and the world laughs louder
>> all of that bullshit could have been emailed to him in private and who >> would have given a shit but you,except you have this fucked up need to >> be linked to the guy in a public forum any way you can. this has been >> going on for how many years now mr. "indifferent"?
> 100,000 years from now, human society will undoubtedly be so different > from contemporary society, so different in technology, social > structure, and world view, that our day-to-day thinking and activity > will be as obscure and incomprehensible to them as the workings of > neanderthal man are to us today.
> Why did one group of them fly an airplane into a building occupied by > members of this other group? Why did the other group fight a war in > Iraq? Why are they so intently focussed on a small group of religions > known as "political parties"? Why did they elect a chimpanzee as > their ruler?
> And WHAT is the Church of the Subgenius?
> Because by that time, we will all have long-since flown away on the > metal space craft of the X-Beings and won't be there to explain it.
> What was this strange fringe religion? Did they REALLY NOT NOTICE > that it's holy man was cut out of a comic book? Did they really have > all the answers after all?
> And they won't know the answers to these questions. Outside of a few > obscure specialists operating in little-travelled byroads of their > academia, there will be nobody who will even comprehend the questions.
> But if they do manage to reconstruct our society at all. If they even > CARE one way or another. If some genius among them is able to > reactivate the crude electrically-fired magnetic artifacts which were > our storehouse of knowledge, and to make sense out of the binary > patterns encoded into them. If they can catalog the Internet and from > that see where so much activity was centered during a few decades of > their second millenium. And if in the process they are able to watch > the day to day conversations and theological debates which constitute > the Church of the Subgenius. And in doing so, some single soul from > the year 189,843, alone but entranced in watching the very thought > process of this strange but stirring long-forgotten race of another > world happens to notice Bob Dean among them,
> While he will not really grasp in any deep way the overall meaning of > the times or our politics or beliefs or religion, Dean will present no > mystery at all to him.
> "What an asshole", he will think. "A waste of time, and nothing else"
> And on that point, if none other, he will be correct.
> So there you have it - the facts of that momentous occasion.
What a nice story! Now tell us that one about Jesus rising from the dead on the third day.
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> "What an asshole" ... "A waste of time, and nothing else"
> And on that point, if none other, he will be correct.
I wonder if wasting time will seem a virtue or a vice to this 'person', or whether those notions will be similarly obscured by time.
In fact, I wonder if they'll still have assholes, and how they'll interpret our habit of referring to each other as 'assholes'.
"It seems they occasionally realized they were mere sphincter-valves for vast storms of generalized hostility.......... they were engaged in fierce propaganda battles for the eventual decision whether to remake humans with no need for excretion. This paradoxical church seemed to celebrate excretion as a religious sacrament, while simultaneously often denouncing their peers as agents of the Shitting Plague.............."
On 4/11/04 1:48 PM, in article 110420041348582691%st...@subgeniusNOSPUM.com, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgeniusNOSPUM.com> wrote:
> In article <BC9DD481.5797%pur...@tellurian.com>, purple > <pur...@tellurian.com> wrote:
>> So there you have it - the facts of that momentous occasion.
> What a nice story! Now tell us that one about Jesus rising from the > dead on the third day.
Can't remember? Too much frop, eh? Well, just take another look at the pictures posted on alt.binaries.slack last fall.
Meanwhile, for your reptilian brain, one story is true and one isn't. Take your pick. But thank you for the associations. They subsume the differences.
<haecce...@canada.com> wrote: >> "What an asshole" ... "A waste of time, and nothing else"
>> And on that point, if none other, he will be correct.
> I wonder if wasting time will seem a virtue or a vice to this > 'person', or whether those notions will be similarly obscured by time.
> In fact, I wonder if they'll still have assholes, and how they'll > interpret our habit of referring to each other as 'assholes'.
> "It seems they occasionally realized they were mere sphincter-valves > for vast storms of generalized hostility.......... they were engaged > in fierce propaganda battles for the eventual decision whether to > remake humans with no need for excretion. This paradoxical church > seemed to celebrate excretion as a religious sacrament, while > simultaneously often denouncing their peers as agents of the Shitting > Plague.............."
You win this one, Abs. The quotation pushed you into the winner's circle.