Re: Telesolutions International (TSI) aka Top Publication Services (TPS), etc... "Lost" Pay Cheques, Employer Fraud, Abuse, Unpaid Labour, Telemarketing Scam. Draper, Utah. Winnipeg, Manitoba
just john
>.....
> I realized most of the people we called were from so called "sucker
> lists" form other telescammers. (Yes TSI employees that's why we ask
> if they want a call about furthering their education, to re-sell the
> name to some other diploma mill scammers). I also learned most of the
> people who bought from me, were people who ALREADY been scammed by
> us, had their credit screwed by us and NEVER got any mags or the cheap
> watch. They were re-scamed with the same script again and again. Of
> course if any employee asked their room manager it was "obliviously
> another company" using the exact same script, and to get the darn
> sale out of 'em. No wonder we keep changing the names, business
> licenses, and places we were calling from, S.R.S. Summit Reader
> Services - R.M.S. Reader's Media Service - U.M.A. United Marketing
> Association in Los Angeles - I.M.A. the International Marketing
> Association - B.P.S. Best Publication Services, and now T.P.S. Top
> Publication Services in Draper. They change the name every few months
> to obstruct any investigations by the US FTC, and credit companies
> enforcing charge backs. There excuse is they have a new "client", the
> fact is they are all the USA sub divisions of TSI. And in all that
> time EVERY victim got the same order number, C-208.
>
> The call rooms are like sweat shops,
Y'know, suddenly I'm mildly tempted NOT to hang up, just in order to ask
the person on the other end of the line:
"Are you in a union? I hear telemarketing has some real sweatshops out
there, and if you're in one of them, you should know your rights to
organize ..."
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nikolai kingsley
> Y'know, suddenly I'm mildly tempted NOT to hang up, just in order to ask
> the person on the other end of the line:
>
> "Are you in a union? I hear telemarketing has some real sweatshops out
> there, and if you're in one of them, you should know your rights to
> organize ..."
instead of getting the operator in trouble, ask to speak to her
supervisor, then start chatting him up.
eddieVroom
I think the real prob call center owners have with unionization
efforts is that the union's lawyers get a look into the business
practices.
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Robert James
Good luck, sadly it's hard enough to unionize a legit place, let alone
a criminal telemarketing center. Still not as bad as these poor door
to door subscription scam kids working 14+ hours a day/7 days a week
for $50 a week:
http://www.travelingsalescrews.info/
--
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true
champion of all existence, and shudder the petulant worm who dares
darken
my brain with ridicule!
Robert James
I'm sorry my supervisor is not avail at the moment, and never will be.
Now all I need is your credit card number...
just john
> a criminal telemarketing center. Still not as bad as these poor door
> to door subscription scam kids working 14+ hours a day/7 days a week
> for $50 a week:
>
Oh, it wouldn't be because I hoped it would succeed -- tho I'd go find
some CWA or other contacts if anybody responded -- but rather that it
might scare the shit out of the caller, that we might be overheard by
their bosses.
Onideus Mad Hatter
<sher...@invalid.netspace.net.au> wrote:
>instead of getting the operator in trouble, ask to speak to her
>supervisor, then start chatting him up.
Not sure how the scammers operate, but when I was at Sykes wanting to
talk to a "supervisor" usually meant being transferred to another call
technician who was either:
A. Smarter
and/or
B. Extremely good at verbally abusing people into submission
Coincidentally I got a *LOT* of transferred calls and played the role
of "supervisor" quite often.
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nikolai kingsley
>> instead of getting the operator in trouble, ask to speak to her
>> supervisor, then start chatting him up.
>
> I'm sorry my supervisor is not avail at the moment, and never will be.
> Now all I need is your credit card number...
here's the deal. i'll buy four of whatever you're selling if you'll put
the supervisor on.
Onideus Mad Hatter
<robert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I'll gu<WHACK>
Is anyone really surprised that Robbie boy was stupid enough to become
a scam artist's little bitch for nearly TWO WEEKS before his dumbass
finally wizened up? Who wants to take bets that the retard *PAID* for
his freakin "interview". LOL What a retard. And he thinks he's
going to get "paid" for his two weeks of being a little bitch?
*snicker* What a dumbfuck!
Of course, he deserves it, I mean *KNOWING* that he was scamming
innocent victims and fucking them over for nearly TWO WEEKS...the
bitch certainly doesn't deserve any "pay" for that...in fact he
deserves to have his legs broken for it if you ask me.
Mad as a Box of Frogs
Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 09 May 2010 03:42:40 +1000, nikolai kingsley
><sher...@invalid.netspace.net.au> wrote:
>
>>instead of getting the operator in trouble, ask to speak to her
>>supervisor, then start chatting him up.
>
>Not sure how the scammers operate, but when I was at Sykes wanting to
>talk to a "supervisor" usually meant being transferred to another call
>technician who was either:
>A. Smarter
>and/or
>B. Extremely good at verbally abusing people into submission
>
>Coincidentally I got a *LOT* of transferred calls and played the role
>of "supervisor" quite often.
Until your supervisor at Wal*Mart in Walla Walla where you *were*
employed as a shelf0-stacker stockboy caught you slacking off your
job and pretending you were customer service when the phone rang when
he was out of the office.
Since then you've been booted out of Wal*Mart altogether for being
a lazy-assed plug that abuses company resources and time-theft,
and evicted from apartments by landlords that are taking you to court
for arrears in rent and damages you left behind.
*nods*
--
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Mad as a Box of Frogs
>a scam artist's little bitch for nearly TWO WEEKS before his dumbass
>finally wizened up? Who wants to take bets that the retard *PAID* for
>his freakin "interview". LOL What a retard. And he thinks he's
>going to get "paid" for his two weeks of being a little bitch?
This coming from a lazy-assed shelf stacker at Wal*mart in Walla Walla
who is now homeless after being evicted for non-payment of rent and
trashing the places you rented.
>What a dumbfuck!
You are that granted.
>Of course, he deserves it, I mean *KNOWING* that he was scamming
>innocent victims and fucking them over for nearly TWO WEEKS...the
>bitch certainly doesn't deserve any "pay" for that...in fact he
>deserves to have his legs broken for it if you ask me.
Nobody has asked you for anything since your first day on Usenet since
any advice you could possibly offer is useless. You're known internet
wide at a KoOk of the Month nicknamed "Diaperboi" for archived posts
you made on 4chan looking for other adults wearing diapers who like
to play with BABY FUR toys. You have been kicked off and banned from
virtually every news provider including Google Groups for net abuse,
libel and posting disgusting scatology photographs.
One quick search using keywords "Onideus Mad Hatter" and "diaperboi"
will cough up thousands of incidents similar to the above should
anyone care to verify your disgusting internet history.
As always, have a nice day Matthew "Diaperboi" Moutlon.
Onideus Mad Hatter
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On Tue, 11 May 2010 04:35:21 +0000 (UTC), Mad as a Box of Frogs
<~.�@�.~> wrote:
>Until yo<WHACK>
So you think I work at Wal*Mart, eh Fruitloop? LOL, that's what I
love about Hatter Addicts...they'll believe pretty much anything you
slap up long side their fat ugly heads, especially if they think they
can "use" it to try and "get back" at someone who makes them all
butthurt. The trick is though, ~how~ they try and use that bait,
well, let's just say it provides the "road map" if you will, into
their base mental type, which allows me easy entry into their pathetic
little ego, which then in turn allows me to "take" them, so to speak.
And thus, a Hatter Addict is then created in the process. LOL It
really is a wondrous process, one I've spent close to two decades
perfecting.
Of course some targets are *MUCH* easier than others. For example,
Tom Evans here, he was one of the EASIEST and one of the WEAKEST I've
ever taken control of. In fact, as I recall, it took me less than
three posts to "take" him and turn him into a Hatter Addict...which
was in fact a new record...and one I've yet to break.
Tommy Boi was practically ~looking~ for it though, on a subconscious
level I believe his body recognized that he was an "evolutionary dead
end" so to speak, so it didn't put up any resistance at all, fumbling
into my little trap without even the slightest measure of common sense
or second guess, he ~wanted~ to be taken control of, he very much
enjoys being a "little bitch" if you will, hence the reason he's
always so eager to "please me" with these obsessive little posts he
makes constantly.
He doesn't understand ~why~ he does it of course, he doesn't really
understand much of anything I'm afraid, he merely acts on emotion
without any benefit of intellect at all, and his base emotions are so
easily manipulated, that he in fact manipulates them himself on a
subconscious level, creating even more pronounced "bait" than what was
even provided in the first place. He *WANTS* to lose control, he
*WANTS* to lash out blindly, he *WANTS* to act like a senseless
animal...so that someone will cage him...so that someone will muzzle
his psyche, as I have done. When he "thrashes about" like this, with
these spastic little frothing posts of his, what he's really doing is
just testing to see if the muzzle is still tight around his fat,
stupid head. ^__^
Robert James
> Onideus Crap Splatter <use...@backwater-productions.net> crapped his self:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >I Fruitloop Matthew Moutlon?
> >love Addicts.
> >my fat ugly
> >butthurts though
> >Addict
> >really
>
> >one of the WEAKEST poop control
> >Addict...I've yet to break.
>
> >enjoy being a "little bitch"
>
> >lose control on Kratom
> >spastic frothing
> >feela tight around my fat
> >stupid head.
>
> >Matthew Moutlon Walla Walla's failure
>
> Nice Haiku Fatthew. Insightful look into yourself.
Did not get the chance to read Obese Fat Matter's Japanese poem you
mentioned, Frogs. Yet I assume if you say it's so insightful into
Obnoxious Sad Fatter's "queer eye for the diaper guy" nature then his
post about himself simply reads "Faggot". Ya, granted I took a crappy
job for two weeks wile I look for a real one... Well atleast unlike
Diaperboi I did not make a career out of it, and take out a morgage
based on the fact that I'd default a few years latter after losing
several payments by wasting it all on fake drugs like Farfoos did.
Babby Matt Moultard, the absolute HEIGHT of fucking faggotery. By the
way, Quipcake, you ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS FAGGOT, did you atleast get a
refund on you'r $4,000 hat to pay off some of your debt?????
Robert James
> On May 9, 7:33 am, nikolai kingsley <shera...@invalid.netspace.net.au>
> Braiden Harvey who left a message on my answering machine today, while
> I was working at my new Unionized job, organized by the U.F.C.W. union
> to protect the labour force from B.S. like his.
>
> Surprise, my Craigslist rant and ALL of the several replys were
> flagged for removal by him. Turns out Telesolutions is just ONE of the
> “Braiden Harvey Group Of Companies”. According to everyone else who
> rented some of his “3leet Donald Trump” apartments (http://
> encompassproperties.com/aboutus.php) they were screwed by him too. Now
> is trying to get into the Apple iPod/iPhone Apps business, currently
> looking for programers.
>
> O’ well at least Ripoff Report does not remove consumer warnings:
>
> http://www.ripoffreport.com/work-place-bullies/telesolutions-intern/t...
>
> And if they ever do some day, it would be all but impossible to remove
> a Usenet post:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fraud/msg/9760a88face78240?dmode=s...
>
> A blogger even decided to re-post my rant to several of his threads:
>
> http://subtleparticle.com/Word/?tag=scam
>
> I may even publish a letter I wrote about ‘em to 2600: The Hacker
> Quarterly mag next issue…
>
> Braiden, I’m not going to call you back, you still owe me for several
> hours worked. No, I am not going to post the TSR or closing room
> scripts, those are proprietary. I don’t care and I am living up to the
> employment contract (yes I really did read it front to back and I can
> post my critism as I please). Interesting no one gets enough time to
> read it in full, and if a employee wants a copy they need to give him
> $25, just to know what rights you waived.
>
> Pay up Braiden, and we’ll part ways.
>
> -Robert James
>
> --
> Former TeleSales Rep.
> Telescam International
> Winnipeg, Manitoba
This is my last post on the subject. Well, I'm all paid up from
Telesolutions. The reason I wrote this was because I felt the need to
express myself based on my personal experience, the experience I
noticed from other employees first hand, lectures from ex-employees
(all be it possible hear say on the managers/owner, but contestant),
and the conversations I had with dozens of their customers. Although,
despite their requests I can not possibly remove my posts since I do
not have write access to other's servers/blogs, and some of the owners
have a policy not accept requests to remove them... Usenet is a
decentralised, pre-internet communications network and therefor is a
whole other story. Others have had issues with their cheques so I was
very concerned. Yet, I have nothing more to say other then I got my
full pay, and good luck to my friends still working there.
--
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