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Rev. Ivan Stang

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Mar 29, 2008, 7:50:18 PM3/29/08
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FWD: "Please read my FREE Ebook"

http://www.experientialknowingness.co.uk www.experientialknowingness.co.uk

Swami
Lord Collins

Rev. 11D Meow!

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Mar 29, 2008, 8:33:13 PM3/29/08
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"Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote in message
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You,the reader,will have typed in the two words Experiential Knowingness
and within seconds up on the screen in front of you will be these options.

Crack Ho
or
Slack Mo

ewe decide!


nikolai kingsley

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Mar 29, 2008, 11:42:59 PM3/29/08
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> http://www.experientialknowingness.co.uk

shouldn't that be "experientalknowFULLness"? stupid bloody poms. they
can't cook, they can't keep their teeth straight and ever since they
lost their colonial empire all they do is sit about drinking tea and
whining.

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Mar 30, 2008, 10:58:27 AM3/30/08
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On Mar 30, 4:42 am, nikolai kingsley

Thank you for your awfully nice posting and the lovely racialist
nonsense that you parrot.
There is no word such as knowingFULLness in any Dictionary and I would
not have chosen it if there was-I chose the word KNOWINGNESS as
expressing perfectly the state of Beingness that I am living in--as
you are incapable of entering this state(separate and merged) and
thereby having EXPERIENTIAL KNOWINGNESS of that(the CCBB) which I have
written about then I suggest that you take your squalid little
RACIALIST MIND GAMES elsewhere! Bye Bye
PS I LOVE YOU

Jackpot Julian Jubilee

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Mar 30, 2008, 11:43:45 AM3/30/08
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What is most amusing about reading just about anything whatsoever is
the hilarious fact that I am mistaking the thing for the symbol for
the thing, on and on. Surely these pixelated scribblings are just
light bouncing off/emitting from something (or else!) that i am
pattern recognizing as something intelligible in some whey I've been
conditioned to understand in some whey I've been conditioned to be
conditoned to thinking (conditioned to think as well) is
something.....

Notice how often Con is in the words conditioning... Fascinating. When
it's all just a bunch of smoke and mirrors pretending to be smoke and
mirrors pretending to be reality (and pretending quite well) how can
one trust anything purporting to know whatever the fuck it is. Hence
the coming of the Armies of Dubiosity, along with the Calvaries of
Cynicism. Yet can one trust those either, is the game of "thinking"
itself rigged, is it but the vanity of the inscrutable inanity of it
all that even writting this is fruitless and against the grain (and
what grain is THAT!).

One should probably say hang it all and have some fun for what it's
worth. But.....

Uncle Al saide fuck because, I say fuck BUT!

Rev Egg Plant

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Mar 30, 2008, 12:09:50 PM3/30/08
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On the behalf of grammar Nazis everywhere, I approve this post.

revChuckKey

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Mar 30, 2008, 12:37:20 PM3/30/08
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"racialist"...heh heh.

Baldin Lee Pramer

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Mar 30, 2008, 12:41:31 PM3/30/08
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Ah, Lord Collins, one of my old students! Good to see your name on the
web. Reggie, I think you could use a refresher course; a little tune
up, as it were.

If I recall correctly, you had "the walk" and "the look" down pretty
well, but had trouble with "the talk". The talk is still giving you
trouble, as evidenced by the excessive verbiage on your website and
the fundamental mistake in the above reply -- "the state of Beingness
that I am living in--as you are incapable of entering this state". No
one is incapable of entering the state of grace. Yes, technically it
is "no one" who would be in the state of grace *once* *they*
*entered*, but it would indeed be "nikolai kingsley" who entered. I
still have the PayPal account set up if you want to start the direct
deposit again. I have Tuesdays and Thursdays 5:30 -6:30 open if you
want to book that time.

Still, it looks like you have done pretty well for yourself, other
than that. Is the long haired wanderer character doing the trick for
you? Still driving the old beat up Land Rover?

Sotto voce to SG reading this: (Reggie, or Lord Collins as he prefers
to be called, was a *master* at getting three ways and four ways going
with society women. You'd think the long haired wanderer character
would only work on hippie chicks, but Reg mastered "the look" and "the
walk" so well, and the beat up Land Rover prop made him seem like an
eccentric lord. He had this move, a sly grin and a nod of the head
towards the exit that worked like *magic*!)

Reggie, give me a call, or you can contact me by just looking inward.

Yours in total blissful serenity,

Sir Baldin Pramer, RPA

Rev. Ivan Stang

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Mar 30, 2008, 12:50:59 PM3/30/08
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On Mar 30, 10:58 am, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Rev. Kingsley, I think this egoless holy man just "shot you the peace
sign" in anger.

Another successful UnMasking.

Zapanaz

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Mar 30, 2008, 3:22:33 PM3/30/08
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:58:27 -0700 (PDT), MANN...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

>(You're a stupid asshole)
>
>PS I LOVE YOU

yup, that's a holy man all right.

--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
By the way, if anyone here is in advertising or marketing, kill yourself.

Just a little thought. I'm just trying to plant seeds. Maybe one day, they'll take root. I don't know. You try. You do what you can. Kill yourself.

Seriously, though. If you are, do. No, really. There's no rationalisation for what you do, and you are Satan's little helpers, okay? Kill yourself. Seriously. You are the ruiner of all things good, seriously. No, this is not a joke, if you're going: "There's going to be a joke coming." There's no fucking joke coming. You are Satan's spawn, filling the world with bile and garbage. You are fucked, and you are fucking us. Kill yourself, it's the only way to save your fucking soul. Kill yourself. Planting seeds.

I know all the marketing people are going: "He's doing a joke." There's no joke here whatsoever. Suck a tail-pipe, fucking hang yourself, borrow a gun from a Yank friend I don't care how you do it. Rid the world of your evil fucking machinations.

I know what all the marketing people are thinking right now too. "Oh, you know what Bill's doing? He's going for that anti-marketing dollar. That's a good market, he's very smart." Oh man. I am not doing that, you fucking evil scumbags!

"Oh, you know what Bill's doing now? He's going for the righteous indignation dollar. That's a big dollar. Lot of people are feeling that indignation, we've done research. Huge market. He's doing a good thing." God damn it, I'm not doing that, you scumbags. Quit putting a goddamn dollar sign on every fucking thing on this planet!

"Oh, the anger dollar. Huge. Huge in times of recession. Giant market, Bill's very bright to do that." God, I'm just caught in a fucking web.

"Oh, the trapped dollar. Big dollar, huge dollar. Good market, look at our research. We see that many people feel trapped. If we play to that and then separate them into the trapped dollar &" How do you live like that? And I bet you sleep like fucking babies at night, don't you?

"What did you do today, honey?"

"Oh, we made arsenic childhood food. Now, good night. Yeah, we just said, you know, is your baby really too loud? You know & yeah, the mums will love it, yeah." Sleep like fucking children, don't you? This is your world, isn't it?

- Bill Hicks

:: Currently listening to Maria, 1995, by Branford Marsalis, from "The Steep Anthology"

Pataprimate Pulpiteer Jack Slutmuffin, Esq.

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Mar 30, 2008, 3:31:16 PM3/30/08
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On Mar 30, 3:22 pm, Zapanaz <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:58:27 -0700 (PDT), MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> >(You're a stupid asshole)
>
> >PS I LOVE YOU
>
> yup, that's a holy man all right.
>
> --
> Zapanaz
> International Satanic Conspiracy
> Customer Support Specialisthttp://joecosby.com/

just xactly what is wrong with being satan's lil' helper? the pay
ain't bad, the times are crazy, and i get to poke people all the time.
I suppose it all comes down to which side of the pitchfork your on,
and how much you can stand the sexhurt.

Baldin Lee Pramer

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Mar 31, 2008, 2:16:40 AM3/31/08
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Sounds like he does not have much of a plan for extracting lucre from
his followers, or even a plan for attracting followers. I will have to
have a talk with him.

BLP

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 1, 2008, 4:01:15 AM4/1/08
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On Mar 31, 7:16 am, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Im not in this for the money or attracting followers(Im NOT any kind
of "leader")--If you read the last page on my Website(afterwords)youll
see that I state
I have enough for me and my wifes needs-house, income(adequate enough
to travel to India every year on holiday)
I could use money to pay for a concentrated publicity campaign in the
newspsapers for this Website but
as I dont have enough it dont get done(and Im NOT appealing for money--
I leave appeals to the "religious buisness community!).I dont have a
"beat-up Land rover" but have a beat -up Mondeo!!
I LOVE YOU(even Nikolai-just dont like his attitude)

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 1, 2008, 4:06:09 AM4/1/08
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> Another successful UnMasking.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

funny how some just cannot allow others to be disgusted with RACIALISM
without ascribing "anger" to them--try Passion or Robustness as
alternative words

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 1, 2008, 4:07:52 AM4/1/08
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On Mar 30, 8:22 pm, Zapanaz <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:58:27 -0700 (PDT), MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> >(You're a stupid asshole)
>
> >PS I LOVE YOU
>
> yup, that's a holy man all right.
>
> --
> Zapanaz
> International Satanic Conspiracy
> Customer Support Specialisthttp://joecosby.com/

I nowhere used the words "stupid arsehole!!" that makes you a LIAR!!

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 1, 2008, 4:09:41 AM4/1/08
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On Mar 31, 7:16 am, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Im not after anyones money or to have anyone as my follower.
read the last page on my Website for details

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 1, 2008, 4:11:54 AM4/1/08
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> Another successful UnMasking.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Im am NOT "egoless"-this is an impossible state to achieve if you
understand what the Ego is PHYSIOLOGICALLY(as you obviously dont)but I
am Mindless and Conditioned Identityless

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 1, 2008, 5:33:52 AM4/1/08
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Thank you for showing my E address

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 1, 2008, 5:35:27 AM4/1/08
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On Mar 30, 4:43 pm, Jackpot Julian Jubilee <zevillkaa...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Very well put-did you find the opening?-its at the end of the piece of
string-just feel your way along

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 1, 2008, 5:38:25 AM4/1/08
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> "racialist"...heh heh.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

YES Racialist!!to denigrate any person because of their "country" is
Racialist!
Im actually of "mixed race"--celtic gypsy jewish with a touch of
Yorkshire--
to write as Nikolai did reveals his inadequacy as a Man

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 1, 2008, 5:39:53 AM4/1/08
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On Mar 30, 8:22 pm, Zapanaz <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:58:27 -0700 (PDT), MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> >(You're a stupid asshole)
>
> >PS I LOVE YOU
>
> yup, that's a holy man all right.
>
> --
> Zapanaz
> International Satanic Conspiracy
> Customer Support Specialisthttp://joecosby.com/

Im most DEFINITELY NOT any kind ohf "holy" man--never!!

Rev. Ivan Stang

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Apr 1, 2008, 8:15:59 AM4/1/08
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April Fools

just john

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Apr 1, 2008, 9:20:13 AM4/1/08
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On Apr 1, 4:09 am, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On Mar 31, 7:16 am, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 29, 5:50 pm, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
>
> > > FWD: "Please read my FREE Ebook"
>
> > >http://www.experientialknowingness.co.ukwww.experientialknowingness.c...

>
> > > Swami
> > > Lord Collins
>
> > Sounds like he does not have much of a plan for extracting lucre from
> > his followers, or even a plan for attracting followers. I will have to
> > have a talk with him.
>
> > BLP
>
> Im not after anyones money or to have anyone as my follower.
> read the last page on my Website for details

Define "last page" as it applies to web sites.

What's the last page of MY website: http://just-john.com

???

Baldin Lee Pramer

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Apr 1, 2008, 10:32:38 AM4/1/08
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On Apr 1, 2:01 am, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On Mar 31, 7:16 am, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 29, 5:50 pm, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
>
> > > FWD: "Please read my FREE Ebook"
>
> > >http://www.experientialknowingness.co.ukwww.experientialknowingness.c...

>
> > > Swami
> > > Lord Collins
>
> > Sounds like he does not have much of a plan for extracting lucre from
> > his followers, or even a plan for attracting followers. I will have to
> > have a talk with him.
>
> > BLP
>
> Im not in this for the money or attracting followers

Why are you in it? What more is there to this world than worldly
pleasures? Even if you are completely ego-free, like *I* am, eating,
drinking and sexing are still pleasurable, as are fine cars, fine
houses, and a huge bank account. My followers provide for my needs,
and provide well. If you have developed your persona to the point
where you can attract followers, you *should* extract money from them.
They will give it freely!

Don't be a chump, Lord Collins, follow me and you too can achieve
satori in no time. Before you know it, you can replace that beat up
old car with a new Jaguar. You'll have all the extra wives you need,
and the world will be your oyster!

BLP

just john

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Apr 1, 2008, 10:49:38 AM4/1/08
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On Apr 1, 10:32 am, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>

But who wants an oyster that's been passed around for so long?

Zapanaz

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On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 01:07:52 -0700 (PDT), MANN...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

>On Mar 30, 8:22 pm, Zapanaz <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:58:27 -0700 (PDT), MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>> >(You're a stupid asshole)
>>
>> >PS I LOVE YOU
>>
>> yup, that's a holy man all right.
>>
>

>I nowhere used the words "stupid arsehole!!" that makes you a LIAR!!

neither did I, I used the words "stupid asshole".

Now YOU'RE a liar!!

***

You'se mighty easy to offend for a guy with no conditioned identity,
don't you think?

give us a kiss, ya big lug

http://www.theronhatch.com/blog/icontact/archives/images/bugs.jpg

***

http://joecosby.com/allthis/masterelmer/zenmasterelmer.htm


--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/

The subgenius must have slack!

:: Currently listening to No. 10 in C sharp Minor, 1951, by Shostakovich, from "24 Preludes and Fugues"

Rev. 11D Meow!

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Apr 1, 2008, 1:13:42 PM4/1/08
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He's right. When you go to
http://Mindless&ConditionedIdentityless.corn
it proves it.

<MANN...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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saint bubba, pastor of muppets

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On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 01:11:54 -0700 (PDT), MANN...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


>Im am NOT "egoless"-this is an impossible state to achieve if you
>understand what the Ego is PHYSIOLOGICALLY(as you obviously dont)but I
>am Mindless and Conditioned Identityless

i woke up to find myself EGGOless this morning. i like to toast a
couple, smear mrs. bubba's wild strawberry jam and cream cheese over
them and eat em like a sam'mich. they have that new-corpse
formaldehyde texture and taste that you just cant get from anywhere
else.

st bubba

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 2, 2008, 4:03:35 AM4/2/08
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On Apr 1, 3:32 pm, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>

wrote:
> On Apr 1, 2:01 am, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 31, 7:16 am,BaldinLeePramer<baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>
> BLP- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Why am I in it??I am in "it"(as you call it) in order to turn this
planet away from the hate-filled violent misery-causing path
that it has been following since "religion/philosophy/politics reared
its ugly head.I want a planet with only Men/Women Children who all
follow the way of NO NATIONS,NO POLITICS,NO RELIGIONS,NO
PHILOSPHIES,NO TRIBAL,NO WARS ,NO MILITARY,No POLICE ,NO JUDGES or
Lawyers,NO POLICEMENS ,NO LAWS,NO BORDERS,NO VIOLENCE,NO CRIME,NO
CRIMINALS--ALL of these things that spring from the DUALITY that MIND/
CONDITIONED IDENTITY create.A world where there are NOT 6billion odd
from creating unwanted useless children who grow up to be unwanted
useless adults.Yes of course I could use lots of money to live better
than I do-but it is not coming to me so I have to "cut my coat to suit
my cloth"--I want to publicise my WEBSITE in the worlds major
newspapers-this would bring visitors to my WEBSITE--not all are
experienced enough in "Consciousness Games"to be able to use the
information there.
You say you are "ego-less" but you do not understand what the EGO is
truly and therefore you are a victim of your own
ignorance.the only people who are truly "ego-less" are those in Mental
Institutions who cannot speak or have immense difficulty in speaking.I
have to go out so Ill write more to you later
I LOVE YOU
Swami

Rev. Ivan Stang

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Apr 2, 2008, 9:21:54 AM4/2/08
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Ah! So you've transcended duality, but most everybody else hasn't.
Good man. You can draw that solid line dividing those poor folks who
are into dualism from those who aren't, such as yourself. (And all
from reading a couple of Internet posts!) Gotta watch out for that
dualism stuff. Creeps into damn near everything. Good thing you're
free of Ego, too, as you've said so many times, or you'd look like the
second most ego-driven crank yet.


Baldin Lee Pramer

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Apr 2, 2008, 10:11:49 AM4/2/08
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On Apr 2, 2:03 am, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> You say you are "ego-less" but you do not understand what the EGO is
> truly and therefore you are a victim of your own
> ignorance.the only people who are truly "ego-less" are those in Mental
> Institutions who cannot speak or have immense difficulty in speaking.I
> have to go out so Ill write more to you later

Denying that *anyone* can be ego-free is just crazy, because *I* most
certainly am without any trace of ego, and I did it all through my own
hard work. In fact, although *I* may be the most egoless being in
*history*, with less then the Buddha, Lao Tse, or Princess Di, I am so
egoless that it would never occur to me to even mention it.

Bhodi Prana

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 2, 2008, 10:37:34 AM4/2/08
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On Apr 1, 3:49 pm, just john <teuy13...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 1, 10:32 am,BaldinLeePramer<baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>

> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 1, 2:01 am, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 31, 7:16 am,BaldinLeePramer<baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>

> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 29, 5:50 pm, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > FWD: "Please read my FREE Ebook"
>
> > > > >http://www.experientialknowingness.co.ukwww.experientialknowingness.c...
>
> > > > > Swami
> > > > > Lord Collins
>
> > > > Sounds like he does not have much of a plan for extracting lucre from
> > > > his followers, or even a plan for attracting followers. I will have to
> > > > have a talk with him.
>
> > > > BLP
>
> > > Im not in this for the money or attracting followers
>
> > Why are you in it? What more is there to this world than worldly
> > pleasures? Even if you are completely ego-free, like *I* am, eating,
> > drinking and sexing are still pleasurable, as are fine cars, fine
> > houses, and a huge bank account. My followers provide for my needs,
> > and provide well. If you have developed your persona to the point
> > where you can attract followers, you *should* extract money from them.
> > They will give it freely!
>
> > Don't be a chump, Lord Collins,  follow me and you too can achieve
> > satori in no time. Before you know it, you can replace that beat up
> > old car with a new Jaguar. You'll have all the extra wives you need,
> > and the world will be your oyster!
>
> But who wants an oyster that's been passed around for so long?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I have never eaten Oysters-always been out of my price range-its
always been(in this country)fish and chips and mushy peas out of
newspaper-In India its superb Indian(Keralan) food at the Spice Route
in the Imperial Hotel In New Delhi--and Dum Phukt at the Radisson
delhi etc etc--Baldin Im begining to suspect that you are all the
voices on this "group"--I have just realised ALL my replies go to your
E address--thanks for laughing at me--hope you got your jollies!BYE BYE

Baldin Lee Pramer

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Apr 2, 2008, 11:26:37 AM4/2/08
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No, you just need to edit your "reply to" addresses. I cc'd you on one
post and somehow things must have gotten screwed up. All kidding
aside, I am only a single voice in this thread.

BLP

Zapanaz

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Apr 2, 2008, 12:58:12 PM4/2/08
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that talk you did from "Zen Sucks" came up in my computer-generated
ipod playlist yesterday.

I always used to wince at the line "passive-aggressive serial killers"
because I couldn't remember what I meant by it so it seemed dumb.

Now I remember.


--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/

`Now that important Achilles heel was closed.' -- Geoffrey Jenkins, Firepoint

:: Currently listening to In the Flat Field, 1980, by Bauhaus, from "In the Flat Field"

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 2, 2008, 1:08:20 PM4/2/08
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On Apr 2, 4:26 pm, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> BLP- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Look Man! I presume Baldin Lee Pramer is not the name you use in daily
life--Swami Lord Collins is the one that I use on all
documents,passport included--I changed my name,as I told you in that
longish first E,in 1970at the behest of My second Yoga instructor(John
Doyle) I was running a halfway house for Heroin addicts(roughly 30 at
any one time)and he said"you are a Lord of the Universe and must
change your name to Lord!!"I poo pooed this but out of respect for the
tradition he embodied did this choosing Collins as my last name(in
honour of one of my the heroes--Michal Collins-murdered by DeValera)--
Ive had much approbation and laughter over the years for it(as he
forecast I would)so your "tekking t'piss" was easy to deal with!!--
water off a ducks back!!.I never was Reggie or had a Beat-up LandRover
either OK??-
I am indebted to you for your publicising my Website-even if your
motives(as revealed now were just to insult and mock me)THANK YOU a
big bunch of whatever smellies gets you off!and to all others in this
thread(if you exist which I doubt)Thanks another Big Bunch each--I
hope you enjoyed revealing you ignorance of what exactly the EGO is--
not the many varied descriptions put up in encyclopaedias or so-called
psychology handbooks--each as different as the other--usually it(ego)
means wrongly most people ARROGANCE!!--well Arrogance is just that!!
ARROGANCE!!.to you all(as my last posting on this site)I entreat you
to read my COMPLETE Website especially the pages called"what is the
EGO" "How the EGO comes into Being" and "how the Mind/Conditioned
Identity and Ego come into being".Again thank you for the publicity
and the Piss-Tekking!!If you want to write to me you can do on---
MANN...@yahoo.co.uk---BYE BYE--I LOVE YOU-Swami
ps Im concluding my cooperation with you as that which I am involved
with is too serious be be treated as something to mock and insult--its
my life and I can do what I want(Mick Jaguar)

Rev. Ivan Stang

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On Apr 2, 12:58 pm, Zapanaz <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 06:21:54 -0700 (PDT), "Rev. Ivan Stang"
>
> <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
> >Ah! So you've transcended duality, but most everybody else hasn't.
> >Good man. You can draw that solid line dividing those poor folks who
> >are into dualism from those who aren't, such as yourself. (And all
> >from reading a couple of Internet posts!) Gotta watch out for that
> >dualism stuff. Creeps into damn near everything. Good thing you're
> >free of Ego, too, as you've said so many times, or you'd look like the
> >second most ego-driven crank yet.
>
> that talk you did from "Zen Sucks" came up in my computer-generated
> ipod playlist yesterday.
>
> I always used to wince at the line "passive-aggressive serial killers"
> because I couldn't remember what I meant by it so it seemed dumb.
>
> Now I remember.
>

I sure don't remember any "Zen Sucks" talk I did. Your passive-
aggressive serial killers line got used in Bobliographon ... ah but
wait, that section came from sermon notes. Right. Okay. Some old
Starwood or Winterstar I guess.

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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On Apr 2, 5:58 pm, Zapanaz <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 06:21:54 -0700 (PDT), "Rev. Ivan Stang"
>
> <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
> >Ah! So you've transcended duality, but most everybody else hasn't.
> >Good man. You can draw that solid line dividing those poor folks who
> >are into dualism from those who aren't, such as yourself. (And all
> >from reading a couple of Internet posts!) Gotta watch out for that
> >dualism stuff. Creeps into damn near everything. Good thing you're
> >free of Ego, too, as you've said so many times, or you'd look like the
> >second most ego-driven crank yet.
>
> that talk you did from "Zen Sucks" came up in my computer-generated
> ipod playlist yesterday.
>
> I always used to wince at the line "passive-aggressive serial killers"
> because I couldn't remember what I meant by it so it seemed dumb.
>
> Now I remember.
>
> --
> Zapanaz
> International Satanic Conspiracy
> Customer Support Specialisthttp://joecosby.com/

> `Now that important Achilles heel was closed.' -- Geoffrey Jenkins, Firepoint
>
> :: Currently listening to In the Flat Field, 1980, by Bauhaus, from "In the Flat Field"

the EGO is a conditioned reflex using the Centres of Werner and Broca
to divert glucose-rich blood to the brain centre which are in action!I
would say the word you should use is ARROGANCE!!

just john

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None of this is as paradigm-shattering as your offhand remark,
elsewhere, " read the last page on my Website for details."

The mind-breaking thing is NOT whatever you have written or displayed
on what you call the "last page" of your website -- it's the concept
of a website having a LAST PAGE at all! It's like ... er ... saying
you only read the "doughy center" of a book, and nothing near the
outside edges.

Zapanaz

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On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:08:20 -0700 (PDT), MANN...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

>I am indebted to you for your publicising my Website-even if your
>motives(as revealed now were just to insult and mock me)THANK YOU a
>big bunch of whatever smellies gets you off!and to all others in this
>thread(if you exist which I doubt)

Is there a particular reason you doubt I exist?

Really, I am genuinely curious.

>Thanks another Big Bunch each--I
>hope you enjoyed revealing you ignorance of what exactly the EGO is--
>not the many varied descriptions put up in encyclopaedias or so-called
>psychology handbooks--each as different as the other--usually it(ego)
>means wrongly most people ARROGANCE!!--well Arrogance is just that!!
>ARROGANCE!!.to you all(as my last posting on this site)I entreat you
>to read my COMPLETE Website especially the pages called"what is the
>EGO" "How the EGO comes into Being" and "how the Mind/Conditioned
>Identity and Ego come into being".

ba ha.

'You people are so ARROGANT! Here, go read my website, I know how to
cure all your arrogance problems, and all the problems of the human
condition in general.

But first thing, we need to cure your arrogance.'


>ps Im concluding my cooperation with you as that which I am involved
>with is too serious be be treated as something to mock and insult

Yes, life is DEADLY SERIOUS and not a laughing matter! That's how you
can tell that somebody has no conditioned personality, he takes
everything he does DEADLY SERIOUSLY.

>--its
>my life and I can do what I want(Mick Jaguar)

I think you're thinking of "It's my party and I'll cry if I want to",
by Leslie Gore, rather than Mick Jaguar of the rollying stoyins.


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"Daaarling," said Mama-san, three sheets to the
wind with a broken foremast.

:: Currently listening to Good Enough, 2006, by Evanescence, from "The Open Door"

Zapanaz

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On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:13:31 -0700 (PDT), MANN...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

>the EGO is a conditioned reflex using the Centres of Werner and Broca
>to divert glucose-rich blood to the brain centre which are in action!I
>would say the word you should use is ARROGANCE!!

What exactly are we talking about??!!


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No, I told you to go to Coxes and buy a seersucker suit!

- Col. Sphinx Drummond

Zapanaz

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yeah. Well, that was my 15 minutes.

That and the psycho-killer who has a link to my website saying I am a
very funny guy. 4 out of 5 serial killers agree!


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all corporations in Wisconsin are linked by witches

:: Currently listening to Sweet Sacrifice, 2006, by Evanescence, from "The Open Door"

Zapanaz

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On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:21:22 -0700 (PDT), just john
<teuy...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

>None of this is as paradigm-shattering as your offhand remark,
>elsewhere, " read the last page on my Website for details."
>
>The mind-breaking thing is NOT whatever you have written or displayed
>on what you call the "last page" of your website -- it's the concept
>of a website having a LAST PAGE at all! It's like ... er ... saying
>you only read the "doughy center" of a book, and nothing near the
>outside edges.

http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm


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pablo picasso well, some people try to pick up girls and they get called an asshole.
this never happened to pablo picasso. he could walk down your street and girls
could not resist his stare and pablo picasso never got called an asshole. the girls
would turn the colour of an avocado when he drove down their street in his eldorado.
he could drive down your street and girls could not resist his stare. pablo picasso
never got called the asshole. oh well be not schmuck, be not obnoxious, be not
bell-bottom bummer or asshole. this is the story of pablo picasso. he could walk
down your street and girls could not resist his stare, so pablo picasso never got
called an asshole. not like you. (j.richman)

:: Currently listening to The Kill, 1980, by Joy Division, from "Still"

Rev. Ivan Stang

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Apr 2, 2008, 1:50:11 PM4/2/08
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On Apr 2, 1:13 pm, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

>
> the EGO is a conditioned reflex using the Centres of Werner and Broca
> to divert glucose-rich blood to the brain centre which are in action!I
> would say the word you should use is ARROGANCE!!

You said earlier that you were concluding your cooperation with us,
but then you posted the above shortly after.

Only when one has conquered MEMORY may one bypass EGO and thence
dispense with ARROGANCE and its brother: helpless fuming sputtering
anger at SubGeniuses and other Mockers.

But only *I,* THE WORLD'S GREATEST TEACHER, can teach you the humility
you will need in order to admit your shortcomings and laugh at
yourself. Only this will restore your TRUE MEMORY of the REAL YOU-
NESS. And what will it cost you? NOTHING. You merely must read my FREE
instructions at:
http://www.subgenius.com/scatalog/membership.htm
Note: the postage and handling will be roughly $40 including air mail
to the U.K.

Zapanaz

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But to master the important things (the piercing gaze, pregnant
pauses, and convincing people that they are better than everybody
else) you may need to study more deeply, just go to the last page in
this web site:

http://www.maybelogic.org/stangcrs2.htm

http://www.maybelogic.org/enroll.htm

***

http://www.maybelogic.org/courses.jpg

practice the piercing gaze with this graphic and a mirror

***

The course is free, but of course they have to charge for course
materials and supporting the good work of collecting more free
donations.

***

(IFYPFY)


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This is a test signature of the Emergency Troll System. Admins in your area,
in cooperation with the Usenet Cabal, have developed this test to keep you
trolled in the event of an emergency. Had this been an actual emergency you
would have been instructed where to subscribe for flames and official trolling.
However this is not an emergency and You Have Been Trolled into reading
this entire useless test signature. This concludes this test signature of the
Emergency Troll System.

:: Currently listening to Knock On Wood, 1966, by Eddie Floyd, from "Stax Profiles"

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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> outside edges.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh really?have you ever heard of NIT-PICKING?

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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On Apr 2, 6:28 pm, Zapanaz <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:
> Customer Support Specialisthttp://joecosby.com/

> "Daaarling," said Mama-san, three sheets to the
> wind with a broken foremast.
>
> :: Currently listening to Good Enough, 2006, by Evanescence, from "The Open Door"

Its actually the sainted michael--youre not au fait with mr Jaguars
output

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 2, 2008, 3:06:51 PM4/2/08
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Now thats ARROGANCE from a worthless source

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 2, 2008, 3:08:30 PM4/2/08
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I just said Im not Cooperating with you in your obvious insanity

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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You still confuse EGO with ARROGANCE

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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On Apr 2, 3:11 pm, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

RUBBISH

Johnny Lobster

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Apr 2, 2008, 3:14:23 PM4/2/08
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On Apr 2, 11:08 am, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> ps Im concluding my cooperation with you as that which I am involved
> with is too serious be be treated as something to mock and insult--its
> my life and I can do what I want(Mick Jaguar)

Actually, that is Eric Burton. http://www.mathematik.uni-ulm.de/paul/lyrics/animals/itsmyl~1.html

No one is mocking you. You have completely misunderstood. We are
trying to help you purge your existence of ego and its manifestations.
Baldin Pramer really helped me, and he helpedmany others too, even
nenslo. You should see if he will give you a koan. It does not hurt to
ask.

Lobster

Rev. 11D Meow!

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Dood! It's April 2nd and you're still letting them April Fool you.

Johnny Lobster

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How can you deny this? It is the same thing all the great Zen teachers
have been saying for centuries!

Lobster

Rev. Ivan Stang

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Please calm down. The higher realms are not available to those mired
in mud-plane anger and hatred.

Rev. Ivan Stang

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Apr 2, 2008, 3:18:07 PM4/2/08
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You already responded once to my simple plea for calmness. Why are you
so upset that you feel you must keep emitting hostility? This isn't
the behavior of a sage.

Rev. Ivan Stang

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On Apr 2, 3:09 pm, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Yet a third outraged response to my simple offer of help. Such low
self esteem. How can I help someone who cannot contain his anger? That
is the first, simplest step to wisdom, and yet even that eludes some.
So sad. From my lofty perch of Higher Spirituality I can only sigh
wistfully at the mewling of the poor creatures ever so far below me.

just john

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Apr 2, 2008, 3:16:43 PM4/2/08
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No!

Sounds interesting. Tell me more!

Rev Egg Plant

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#1 Bug, reporting for duty, SIR!

Zapanaz

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On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:05:22 -0700 (PDT), MANN...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

>> >--its
>> >my life and I can do what I want(Mick Jaguar)
>>
>> I think you're thinking of "It's my party and I'll cry if I want to",
>> by Leslie Gore, rather than Mick Jaguar of the rollying stoyins.
>>

>Its actually the sainted michael--youre not au fait with mr Jaguars
>output

Actually I think you are thinking of the Animals song

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_My_Life_(The_Animals_song)

Mister No Conditioned Personality doesn't like being wrong, I guess.


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How long was I in the army? Five foot eleven.
- Spike Milligan

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Zapanaz

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On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:16:43 -0700 (PDT), just john
<teuy...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

>> Oh really?have you ever heard of NIT-PICKING?
>
>No!
>
>Sounds interesting. Tell me more!

It's on the last page of dictionary.com

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International Satanic Conspiracy

Zapanaz

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Obviously, he has an ego problem.

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"Any soul is worth saving, at least to a priest, but not every soul is worth BUYING.

So you can take the offer as a compliment"

- William S Burroughs

Zapanaz

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Apr 2, 2008, 4:57:35 PM4/2/08
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Oh c'mon, you can come up with something more sagely and superior than
THAT.

Rev. James Slaughter

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On Apr 2, 2:09 pm, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> You still confuse EGO with ARROGANCE- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Totally arrogance-free zone, that post is.

nenslo

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Apr 2, 2008, 5:02:15 PM4/2/08
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What is so funny about this whole thread is you jerks are all using
rationality to dispute about the irrational. No wonder you all look so
incredibly stupid to me.

Rev. Ivan Stang

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Disputing? I thought we were meditating.

Steve Thompson

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This is America; just down the block on the left in the murky ally is a guy
who has tickets he'll sell for a couple hundred bucks.

Everything is for sale. Even you.


Regards,

Steve

--
The diversity stole my bicycle.

Sky Scout Jack Slutmuffin, Devangel

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On Apr 2, 4:03 am, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On Apr 1, 3:32 pm, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 1, 2:01 am, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 31, 7:16 am,BaldinLeePramer<baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 29, 5:50 pm, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > FWD: "Please read my FREE Ebook"
>
> > > > >http://www.experientialknowingness.co.ukwww.experientialknowingness.c...
>
> > > > > Swami
> > > > > Lord Collins
>
> > > > Sounds like he does not have much of a plan for extracting lucre from
> > > > his followers, or even a plan for attracting followers. I will have to
> > > > have a talk with him.
>
> > > > BLP
>
> > > Im not in this for the money or attracting followers
>
> > Why are you in it? What more is there to this world than worldly
> > pleasures? Even if you are completely ego-free, like *I* am, eating,
> > drinking and sexing are still pleasurable, as are fine cars, fine
> > houses, and a huge bank account. My followers provide for my needs,
> > and provide well. If you have developed your persona to the point
> > where you can attract followers, you *should* extract money from them.
> > They will give it freely!
>
> > Don't be a chump, Lord Collins,  follow me and you too can achieve
> > satori in no time. Before you know it, you can replace that beat up
> > old car with a new Jaguar. You'll have all the extra wives you need,
> > and the world will be your oyster!
>
> > BLP- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Why am I in it??I am in "it"(as you call it) in order to turn this
> planet away from the hate-filled violent misery-causing path
> that it has been following since "religion/philosophy/politics reared
> its ugly head.I want a planet with only Men/Women Children who all
> follow the way of NO NATIONS,NO POLITICS,NO RELIGIONS,NO
> PHILOSPHIES,NO TRIBAL,NO WARS ,NO MILITARY,No POLICE ,NO JUDGES or
> Lawyers,NO POLICEMENS ,NO LAWS,NO BORDERS,NO VIOLENCE,NO CRIME,NO
> CRIMINALS--ALL of these things that spring from the DUALITY that MIND/
> CONDITIONED IDENTITY create.A world where there are NOT 6billion odd
> from creating unwanted useless children who grow up to be unwanted
> useless adults.Yes of course I could use lots of money to live better
> than I do-but it is not coming to me so I have to "cut my coat to suit
> my cloth"--I want to publicise my WEBSITE in the worlds major
> newspapers-this would bring visitors to my WEBSITE--not all are
> experienced enough in "Consciousness Games"to be able to use the
> information there.

> You say you are "ego-less" but you do not understand what the EGO is
> truly and therefore you are a victim of your own
> ignorance.the only people who are truly "ego-less" are those in Mental
> Institutions who cannot speak or have immense difficulty in speaking.I
> have to go out so Ill write more to you later
> I LOVE YOU
> Swami- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Dude, brother, calm down, you are a righteous guy, and you have a
great vision, but your preaching to the choir, okay. Just relax,
believe everything you must and enjoy and see what happens. You are
your own best friend.

Sky Scout Jack Slutmuffin, Devangel

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> NESS. And what will it cost you? NOTHING. You merely must read my FREE
> instructions at:http://www.subgenius.com/scatalog/membership.htm
> Note: the postage and handling will be roughly $40 including air mail
> to the U.K.

cute, again

Sky Scout Jack Slutmuffin, Devangel

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On Apr 2, 9:43 pm, "Sky Scout Jack Slutmuffin, Devangel"
> your own best friend.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

all right, some how one of my bad egos jumped into this guy and made
hime poast all over here with bullshit

it's his own bullshit of course, I had nothing to do with that, but
the head-against-the-wall retardedness

I apologize, he's a really stupid ife, damn angry and potent though.


Not nearly as fun as my "guardian angel"... hehehe, that's a blast

Baldin Lee Pramer

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Certainly you are not suggesting we use irrationality. You are
suggesting... that we do neither. Ah. You are very wise.

BLP

Zapanaz

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On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:54:19 -0700, Zapanaz
<http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:

>
>On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:05:22 -0700 (PDT), MANN...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
>>> >--its
>>> >my life and I can do what I want(Mick Jaguar)
>>>
>>> I think you're thinking of "It's my party and I'll cry if I want to",
>>> by Leslie Gore, rather than Mick Jaguar of the rollying stoyins.
>>>
>>Its actually the sainted michael--youre not au fait with mr Jaguars
>>output
>
>Actually I think you are thinking of the Animals song
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_My_Life_(The_Animals_song)
>
>Mister No Conditioned Personality doesn't like being wrong, I guess.

although just for the record, I think you have a serious insight,
"conditioned personality" IS the root of all evil, presidential races,
and fast-food commercials.

but telling EVERYBODY ELSE about theirs, while claiming not to have
one ... well, I think you may have leapt off the merry-go-round while
it was still spinning, that's all.


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A single glass of water lights the world
- Two times

:: Currently listening to Magical Mystery Tour, 1967, by The Beatles, from "Magical Mystery Tour"

Zapanaz

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On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:43:07 -0700 (PDT), "Sky Scout Jack Slutmuffin,
Devangel" <juurgeni...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Dude, brother, calm down, you are a righteous guy, and you have a
>great vision, but your preaching to the choir, okay. Just relax,
>believe everything you must and enjoy and see what happens. You are
>your own best friend.

WELL DAMN, THAT WAS SWEET, OR WHAT!

Pulpiteer Jack Sluttmuffin, Kuarter Kobold

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On Apr 2, 1:29 pm, Zapanaz <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:13:31 -0700 (PDT), MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> >the EGO is a conditioned reflex using the Centres of Werner and Broca
> >to divert glucose-rich blood to the brain centre which are in action!I
> >would say the word you should use is ARROGANCE!!
>
> What exactly are we talking about??!!

>
> --
> Zapanaz
> International Satanic Conspiracy
> Customer Support Specialisthttp://joecosby.com/
> No, I told you to go to Coxes and buy a seersucker suit!
>
>  - Col. Sphinx Drummond
>
> :: Currently listening to Good Enough, 2006, by Evanescence, from "The Open Door"

are all brains created equal! No they are not?

Message has been deleted

Johnny Lobster

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On Apr 2, 9:19 pm, Zapanaz <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:43:07 -0700 (PDT), "Sky Scout Jack Slutmuffin,
>
> Devangel" <juurgenizixexo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Dude, brother, calm down, you are a righteous guy, and you have a
> >great vision, but your preaching to the choir, okay. Just relax,
> >believe everything you must and enjoy and see what happens. You are
> >your own best friend.
>
> WELL DAMN, THAT WAS SWEET, OR WHAT!

Indeed. I sugared myself.

Lobster

Pulpiteer Jack Sluttmuffin, Kuarter Kobold

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Apr 3, 2008, 10:06:37 AM4/3/08
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considering that last two poasts, i must add a disclaimer against
beetus peoples from reading that poast unless low in blood sugar.

just john

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Apr 3, 2008, 10:25:51 AM4/3/08
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Hell, you'd think that no matter what we were talking about here.

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 3, 2008, 11:18:22 AM4/3/08
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On Apr 3, 4:00 am, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

You are using "emotinal"definitions of Words(under the control of your
Mind and its created Conditioned Identity,which in your ignorance
"you" believe is "you)-try reading my Ebook!in particular "what is the
EGO??"--I use the correct definition which is PHYSIOLOGICAL-If you
cannot be bothered to use correct definitions of words no wonder you
are not capable of debating from a "truthful" point of view
When searching for a lost Drawing pin walk barefoot in the dark!!

just john

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Apr 3, 2008, 11:35:25 AM4/3/08
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On Apr 3, 11:18 am, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On Apr 3, 4:00 am, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 2, 3:02 pm, nenslo <nen...@hahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > What is so funny about this whole thread is you jerks are all using
> > > rationality to dispute about the irrational. No wonder you all look so
> > > incredibly stupid to me.
>
> > Certainly you are not suggesting we use irrationality. You are
> > suggesting... that we do neither. Ah. You are very wise.
>
> > BLP
>
> You are using "emotinal"definitions of Words(under the control of your
> Mind and its created Conditioned Identity,which in your ignorance
> "you" believe is "you)

Well, where do you think words COME FROM?

The meaning of any word changes and grows over time, AS IT IS USED,
right?

And WHO DO YOU THINK IS USING THEM? Only enlightened sages (by any
standard of enlightenment and/or sagacity)? I don't THINK so.

--
* Radio Free Entropy: http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 3, 2008, 1:17:23 PM4/3/08
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On Apr 3, 4:35 pm, just john <teuy13...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 11:18 am, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 3, 4:00 am,BaldinLeePramer<baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>
> * Radio Free Entropy:http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Words are created from accumulated memories with their attendant
meanings that arise usually from ignorance (such as the word EGO used
in these pages when the correct word is obviously arrogance--as EGO is
a Conditioned reflex that concentatres Brainblood bearing Glucose and
Oxygen in the Braincentresin action)The change in words meaning over
time is due to sucessive generations realising the Falseness of
previous generations meaning due to lack of Scientific Knowledge--The
true meaning of words has priority over any common usage based on
ignorance or emotionality-always will have except for those who cling
to ignorance as a means of interacting with Life and its
processes(such as thaose who substitute EGO for arrogance--or Anger
for Robustness--or EGO LESS for the arrogance of presuming oneself
arrogance-free.

Johnny Lobster

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Apr 3, 2008, 1:21:06 PM4/3/08
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You should find this interesting:
http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Special:Search?from=sidebar&search=consciousness&go=Title

If you want a scientific theory of consciousness, you need to make
sure you understand the current research. I'm not saying you don't,
just directing you to a page that not many know about.

Lobster

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 3, 2008, 1:24:36 PM4/3/08
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On Apr 3, 4:18 am, Zapanaz <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:54:19 -0700, Zapanaz
>
>
>
>
>
> <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:05:22 -0700 (PDT), MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
> >>> >--its
> >>> >my life and I can do what I want(Mick Jaguar)
>
> >>> I think you're thinking of "It's my party and I'll cry if I want to",
> >>> by Leslie Gore, rather than Mick Jaguar of the rollying stoyins.
>
> >>Its actually the sainted michael--youre not au fait with mr Jaguars
> >>output
>
> >Actually I think you are thinking of the Animals song
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_My_Life_(The_Animals_song)
>
> >Mister No Conditioned Personality doesn't like being wrong, I guess.
>
> although just for the record, I think you have a serious insight,
> "conditioned personality" IS the root of all evil, presidential races,
> and fast-food commercials.
>
> but telling EVERYBODY ELSE about theirs, while claiming not to have
> one ... well, I think you may have leapt off the merry-go-round while
> it was still spinning, that's all.
>
> --
> Zapanaz
> International Satanic Conspiracy
> Customer Support Specialisthttp://joecosby.com/

> A single glass of water lights the world
>    - Two times
>
> :: Currently listening to Magical Mystery Tour, 1967, by The Beatles, from "Magical Mystery Tour"- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

Dissolving Mind/Conditioned Identity totally and PERMANENTLY is an
easily applied PHYSIOLOGICAL process that I have sketched in my Ebook--
www.experientialknowingness.co.uk--read it and digest

Johnny Lobster

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Apr 3, 2008, 1:30:50 PM4/3/08
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On Apr 3, 9:18 am, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On Apr 3, 4:00 am, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 2, 3:02 pm, nenslo <nen...@hahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > What is so funny about this whole thread is you jerks are all using
> > > rationality to dispute about the irrational. No wonder you all look so
> > > incredibly stupid to me.
>
> > Certainly you are not suggesting we use irrationality. You are
> > suggesting... that we do neither. Ah. You are very wise.
>
> > BLP
>
> You are using "emotinal"definitions of Words(under the control of your
> Mind and its created Conditioned Identity,which in your ignorance
> "you" believe is "you)-try reading my Ebook!in particular "what is the
> EGO??"--I use the correct definition which is PHYSIOLOGICAL

You are using a nonstandard definition in the literature of religious
experience. The "ego", which is said to drop away at the experience of
satori, is the identification of the self-generating linguistic
overlay (words in our head) with our true selves. Those who have
experienced satori will say that the overlay still exists, as it must
when engaging in conversation or writing, but that the feeling of
identification with the words no longer exists.

Lobster

just john

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Apr 3, 2008, 1:36:41 PM4/3/08
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On Apr 3, 1:17 pm, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On Apr 3, 4:35 pm, just john <teuy13...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 3, 11:18 am, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 3, 4:00 am,BaldinLeePramer<baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 2, 3:02 pm, nenslo <nen...@hahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > What is so funny about this whole thread is you jerks are all using
> > > > > rationality to dispute about the irrational. No wonder you all look so
> > > > > incredibly stupid to me.
>
> > > > Certainly you are not suggesting we use irrationality. You are
> > > > suggesting... that we do neither. Ah. You are very wise.
>
> > > > BLP
>
> > > You are using "emotinal"definitions of Words(under the control of your
> > > Mind and its created Conditioned Identity,which in your ignorance
> > > "you" believe is "you)
>
> > Well, where do you think words COME FROM?
>
> > The meaning of any word changes and grows over time, AS IT IS USED,
> > right?
>
> > And WHO DO YOU THINK IS USING THEM? Only enlightened sages (by any
> > standard of enlightenment and/or sagacity)? I don't THINK so.
>
> > --
> > * Radio Free Entropy:http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml-Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Words are created from accumulated memories with their attendant
> meanings that arise usually from ignorance (such as the word EGO used
> in these pages when the correct word is obviously arrogance--as EGO is
> a Conditioned reflex that concentatres Brainblood bearing Glucose and
> Oxygen in the Braincentresin action)The change in words meaning over
> time is due to sucessive generations realising the Falseness of
> previous generations meaning due to lack of Scientific Knowledge--The
> true meaning of words has priority over any common usage based on
> ignorance or emotionality

Then you'll just have to make up your own language!

Send us a message when you've got that done.

nenslo

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Apr 3, 2008, 12:51:45 PM4/3/08
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nenslo

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Apr 3, 2008, 12:53:28 PM4/3/08
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In article
<43d59661-32b6-483f...@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,

False assumption based on your smarmy wiseassedness.

I am suggesting that everybody always does both, but they are parallel
systems.

nenslo

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Apr 3, 2008, 12:54:18 PM4/3/08
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In article
<7593c17c-4aad-43d6...@r9g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
MANN...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Dude, the guy is SO yanking your chain.

Steve Thompson

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Apr 3, 2008, 4:20:34 PM4/3/08
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In school they told us that word meaning change was a function of cultural
drift and hormone gradients. We can measure culture drift over time, even
without the use of too many irrational numbers, but brain chemistry is
difficult to quantify without crackin' open the ol' melon and sending
biopsy samples to the lab.

Will we get better results if we use your system?

Johnny Lobster

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Apr 3, 2008, 4:55:04 PM4/3/08
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On Apr 3, 10:53 am, nenslo <nen...@hahoo.com> wrote:
> In article
> <43d59661-32b6-483f-8b66-a9d289855...@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,

> Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinleepra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 2, 3:02 pm, nenslo <nen...@hahoo.com> wrote:
> > > What is so funny about this whole thread is you jerks are all using
> > > rationality to dispute about the irrational. No wonder you all look so
> > > incredibly stupid to me.
>
> > Certainly you are not suggesting we use irrationality. You are
> > suggesting... that we do neither.
>
> False assumption based on your smarmy wiseassedness.

Assuming he wasn't yanking your chain.

Lobster

just john

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Apr 3, 2008, 6:49:40 PM4/3/08
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On 04/02/2008 08:43 PM, Sky Scout Jack Slutmuffin, Devangel told the world:

WE HAVE A CHOIR???

WHY DIDN'T ANYBODY TELL ME ABOUT THIS??

scalpod

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Apr 3, 2008, 7:48:15 PM4/3/08
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Some of us sport REDUNDANT PARALLEL SYSTEMS, but I don't need to tell you
that?

scalpod

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Apr 3, 2008, 7:49:28 PM4/3/08
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And you'd think it was an invitation to offer your 'opinion'?

Pffbt! Perfectly predictable...

scalpod

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Apr 3, 2008, 7:50:08 PM4/3/08
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PULL THE FUCKING BANANA OUT OF YOUR EAR

just john

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Apr 3, 2008, 8:54:10 PM4/3/08
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On 04/03/2008 06:50 PM, scalpod told the world:

> PULL THE FUCKING BANANA OUT OF YOUR EAR

What, are you hungry AGAIN?

scalpod

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Apr 3, 2008, 7:54:13 PM4/3/08
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On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:54:10 -0500, just john wrote:

> On 04/03/2008 06:50 PM, scalpod told the world:
>> PULL THE FUCKING BANANA OUT OF YOUR EAR
>
> What, are you hungry AGAIN?

Sure, Bert

saint bubba, pastor of muppets

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Apr 4, 2008, 12:07:48 AM4/4/08
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On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:09:08 -0700 (PDT), MANN...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

>On Apr 2, 6:50 pm, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:


>> On Apr 2, 1:13 pm, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > the EGO is a conditioned reflex using the Centres of Werner and Broca
>> > to divert glucose-rich blood to the brain centre which are in action!I
>> > would say the word you should use is ARROGANCE!!
>>

>> You said earlier that you were concluding your cooperation with us,
>> but then you posted the above shortly after.
>>
>> Only when one has conquered MEMORY may one bypass EGO and thence
>> dispense with ARROGANCE and its brother: helpless fuming sputtering
>> anger at SubGeniuses and other Mockers.
>>
>> But only *I,* THE WORLD'S GREATEST TEACHER, can teach you the humility
>> you will need in order to admit your shortcomings and laugh at
>> yourself. Only this will restore your TRUE MEMORY of the REAL YOU-
>> NESS. And what will it cost you? NOTHING. You merely must read my FREE
>> instructions at:http://www.subgenius.com/scatalog/membership.htm
>> Note: the postage and handling will be roughly $40 including air mail
>> to the U.K.
>
>You still confuse EGO with ARROGANCE

thats right! although the Electric Gerbil Orchestra and that crazy
surfabilly folk band "larry and the arrognauts" might sound
STYLISTICALLY similar, you can immediately tell the difference between
them by the PITCH and TONE of their respective 1st chair Floot
players.

st bubba

st bubba

saint bubba, pastor of muppets

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Apr 4, 2008, 12:07:48 AM4/4/08
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On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:08:20 -0700 (PDT), MANN...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


>Look Man! I presume Baldin Lee Pramer is not the name you use in daily
>life--Swami Lord Collins is the one that I use on all
>documents,passport included--I changed my name,as I told you in that
>longish first E,in 1970at the behest of My second Yoga instructor(John
>Doyle) I was running a halfway house for Heroin addicts(roughly 30 at
>any one time)and he said"you are a Lord of the Universe and must
>change your name to Lord!!"I poo pooed this but out of respect for the
>tradition he embodied did this choosing Collins as my last name(in
>honour of one of my the heroes--Michal Collins-murdered by DeValera)--

OH FUCK. an IRISH BUDDHIST. kill me now. okeydokey. didja ever
consider that instead of being a reincarnaliated sagacious sum'bitch
like your yoga instructor figgered on you being, that mebbe, just
MEBBE, he was all teh ghey, and was merely lusting after bum?

im no yoga instructor, but if i could get away with "baby, you are an
ASCENDED MISTRESS...lay me out and treat me like i deserve!" as a
pick-up line, i sure the fuck would use it, because its a fucking
CERTAINTY that the best way to get people to do what you want (in this
case, bendy ass sex) is to tell them EXACTLY what they WANT to hear.

>I am indebted to you for your publicising my Website-even if your
>motives(as revealed now were just to insult and mock me)THANK YOU a
>big bunch of whatever smellies gets you off!and to all others in this
>thread(if you exist which I doubt)

yeah,m ive had days when i wake up and wonder that too, the whole
existence thing, whether or not i as a singular entity and thoughtwave
actually exists as i see in my meatspace existence, or if im just some
randomly firing neuron in baldin lee pramers' brain, or if this isnt
all some fucked up fever dream that god is having.

then i stub my toe on the heating grate the sticks out about a quater
inch above the kitchen tiles and have to sadly look at my ugly old mug
in the mirror and admit, "crap, this shit is real."

sometimes you can put some panacea on that by just GOING BACK TO BED.

sometimes it takes three posts of coffee and more than a few pipefuls
of combustable bliss to get there.

sometimes it takes a 2x4 to the back of the skull and 48-hour
cheetos-fueled marathons of the original doctor who, 9/11 footage of
folkses falling out of the sky, and an IV bag full of red bull mixed
with equal parts wild turkey to get the effect.

st bubba bloodysativa

saint bubba, pastor of muppets

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Apr 4, 2008, 12:07:48 AM4/4/08
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On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:28:12 -0700, Zapanaz
<http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:

>
>On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:08:20 -0700 (PDT), MANN...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>

>>Thanks another Big Bunch each--I
>>hope you enjoyed revealing you ignorance of what exactly the EGO is--
>>not the many varied descriptions put up in encyclopaedias or so-called
>>psychology handbooks--each as different as the other--usually it(ego)
>>means wrongly most people ARROGANCE!!--well Arrogance is just that!!
>>ARROGANCE!!.to you all(as my last posting on this site)I entreat you
>>to read my COMPLETE Website especially the pages called"what is the
>>EGO" "How the EGO comes into Being" and "how the Mind/Conditioned
>>Identity and Ego come into being".
>
>ba ha.
>
>'You people are so ARROGANT! Here, go read my website, I know how to
>cure all your arrogance problems, and all the problems of the human
>condition in general.
>
>But first thing, we need to cure your arrogance.'
>
no shit. im tellin' ya though, the first religion that comes around
that can cure me of my "cheese-feet" and im dumping this schlocky cult
faster 'n...um...fuck, metaphor meltdown...well...something REALLY
fast.

like....


ah shit, i got nuthin.

st bubba

saint bubba, pastor of muppets

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Apr 4, 2008, 12:07:49 AM4/4/08
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On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:18:22 -0700 (PDT), MANN...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

>When searching for a lost Drawing pin walk barefoot in the dark!!

that makes TOTAL sense. you could spend HOURS straining your eyes and
going over every inch of the room just to get the needle in your knee
as you contort yourself (popping out a couple discs) to get to that
weirld little space between the bookcase and the divan, react, bang
the back of your head on the underside of the coffee table, knocking
over the table lamb which DISINTERGRATES on impact with your
pre-popped spine, gouging you like a flaggellant and leaving you DEAD
in a pool of blood as your now useless legs kick feebly.

walk confidently into a dark room with a needle on the floor and you
get a sore foot that takes a couple days to stop hurting. i caught
five minutes of "jackass the movie the sequel" or something like that
and they had a skit with a buncha guys skateboarding through "the
gauntlet" which had their gleeful compadred with ROCK FILLED
dufflebags on ropes or something (i wasnt paying THAT much attention)
and every one of them, tightened up and cringing got COLD COCKED and
knocked on their asses. the guy they blindfolded and sent him out to
his doom sailed through flying duffelbags up and over the next ramp
and safely down again.

like "Bob" said: "id rather be lucky than smart any day of the week"

st bubba

MANN...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 4, 2008, 1:42:04 AM4/4/08
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On Apr 3, 6:30 pm, Johnny Lobster <jstar...@sdc.org> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 9:18 am, MANNgr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 3, 4:00 am,BaldinLeePramer<baldinleepra...@yahoo.com>
> Lobster- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I am using the ONLY truthful definition of the word EGO--the ones(many
different definitions)that have been used for millenia are ALL wrong-
the Path that I am opening is the ONLY true path that leads to UNION
with the Creator of all Life!! All the other Paths deal in pretence
and obfucation-resulting in ALL followers playing MindGames and
IMAGINING wonderful but meaningless fantasies.THhe EGO is a
CONDITIONED REFLEX that uses the two Centres in the Brain for Speaking
Listening Writing and Reading(scientifically called the Centres of
Werner and Broca).The true path is PHYSIOLOGICAL and leads to the
State of Separate and Merged--the State of Experiential Knowingness!!
You use the word EGO wrongly because you have confused temporarily
being outside minds control with "egoloss"--this is not your fault but
is the fault of ALL the ignorant so-called "enlightened ones"(male and
Female)who ,in the past lacked our Scientific Knowledge of Anatomy and
Physiology and the correct words to describe these states.Read my
Ebook!!!

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