Someone you were SURE was gay but isn't?
alan
>Did you ever hear a media figure you were *sure* was gay, and wasn't?
snip......
Well, I don't see how you can decide that someone "isn't".
Even if they used to date same sex people, and then married
and had children.
So many people are bi, or at least experiment enough during their
lives that there is only one way to describe them (bi) that I often
wonder at why we feel they have to be one or the other!
Having said that, I always thought Bill was gay, until he married
Hillary. But, since she's a l______, perhaps it doesn't mean as much
as I thought!
Alan
That is, because of, because of our,
that is, we are attempting,
the position is to withhold information
and to cover up - this is totally true -
you could say it is totally untrue.
-----Richard Milhouse Nixon
Jeff Kirk
says...
>
>In article <4c4phu$i...@mari.onr.com> kir...@onr.com (Jeff Kirk) writes:
>>From: kir...@onr.com (Jeff Kirk)
>>Subject: Re: Someone you were SURE was gay but isn't?
>>Date: 31 Dec 1995 01:38:06 GMT
>
>
>>>Anyhow, I was just remembering how, even as a kid, I would have
>>impressions
>>>about certain people I just felt were likely to be gay.
>
>>Well, I was "sure" Keanu was gay until relatively recently.
>
>>Jeff
>
>Jeff -
> NAh! This *can't* be because of his supposed fling with TWANS, is
>it? :-)
GOD no! I already know that's a load of crap. And as I said in a post
to Nancy, I didn't mean to imply that I don't still think he's gay/bi,
but rather that my certainty level has gone down in the past six months
or so.
Jeff
Maggie
>
>
>Did you ever hear a media figure you were *sure* was gay, and wasn't?
>
unmarried and I made assumptions based on his appearance and some of the
more "sensitive" comments in his reviews. Then he got married, rather late
in life (late 30s, yearly 40s?). But this wasn't what convinced me he
isn't gay! I was commenting on the marriage to a friend of mine who
took a film class he taught at a university in his home town. She told
me that he (I'm cleaning this up a bit 'cause I know he's on the net)
dated many many females in the classes he took.
Maggie "who knew?" Newman
Jeff Kirk
says...
>
>kir...@onr.com (Jeff Kirk) wrote:
>
>>Well, I was "sure" Keanu was gay until relatively recently.
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>
>corner about how sure he was that Keanu was gay!!!!! Do tell, what
>relatively recently made you question your previous point of view?
I thought we covered this months ago! I'm not saying I don't believe
he's gay or bi. I still do. However, the asg-ers here - as well as
Keanu's public statements on the matter - have convinced me that he
*might* be straight. I'm not 100% certain now - that was my point.
Jeff
Robyn Greenspan
>
>: Did you ever hear a media figure you were *sure* was gay, and wasn't?
>
Paul Schaeffer from the Letterman Show.
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"Too much is never enough"
cont...@pipeline.com
C Lassiter
: In article <4c5a73$f...@merlin.delphi.com>,
: *NaNcY* <nlo...@mci.newscorp.com> wrote:
: >kir...@onr.com (Jeff Kirk) wrote:
: >
: >>Well, I was "sure" Keanu was gay until relatively recently.
: >>
: >>Jeff
: >>
: >
: >Jeff!!!!!JEFF!!!!! This from the man who would argue anyone into the
: >corner about how sure he was that Keanu was gay!!!!! Do tell, what
: >relatively recently made you question your previous point of view?
Oops, you don't remember that he removed himself from this conversation
some time ago.
: Can't speak for Jeff, but but he DOES like hockey and rock. In Canada that's
: usually better proof of heterosexuality than actual videotape of sex with a
: member of the opposite sex.
Then I guess the fact that I hate both....
: David (who confesses to having attended one hockey game in his life but is
: nevertheless queer as they come) Migicovsky
I'm sorry. Very sorry. (That you attended a hockey game.)
cl
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thomas g taylor
>>Did you ever hear a media figure you were *sure* was gay, and wasn't?
until she got married and started appearing on the cover of Redbook
along with Debbie Boone and the other celeb mommies. I suppose somebody
started thius rumor because she was a gym teacher at one point in her
life and she has that deep voice.
I really could care less, but Anne is vehemant(sp) against those rumors
and confesses heterosexuality for herself. I could care less..I just wish
Anne who has a great voice would get off the Croonin material and the
country schlock( I love good country) and do some kick ass singer/
songwriter stuff...like material by MC Carpenter, Cheryl Wheeler,
Ferron, Greg Brown, D Mallet etc. Her stuff the last 8 years is BORING
tom taylor
cockeysville. Md
steven r kleinedler
Maggie <smne...@gsbkma.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>>
>For many years I was certain film critic Roger Ebert was gay. He was
>unmarried and I made assumptions based on his appearance and some of the
>more "sensitive" comments in his reviews. Then he got married, rather late
>in life (late 30s, yearly 40s?). But this wasn't what convinced me he
>isn't gay! I was commenting on the marriage to a friend of mine who
>took a film class he taught at a university in his home town. She told
>me that he (I'm cleaning this up a bit 'cause I know he's on the net)
>dated many many females in the classes he took.
>
Once I was buying some junk food at a minimart on Belmont in
Chicago, and I bolted out the door to run for the el 'cause I
didn't want to miss the next train, and I came within millimeters
of colliding with a very large man who had an attractive younger
female companion at his side. It wasn't till about 10 seconds
later that I realized I'd almost bowled into Ebert.
This anecdote is irrelevant w/r/t his orientation, but he's
never set off my gaydar and I always just assumed he was straight.
As far as the question is concerned, I kind of used to think
Matthew Broderick was, but I read an amusing interview with
Harvey Fierstein, whom I'm inclined to believe in such matters,
who said that he (Matthew) wasn't. Actually, I don't know if
I thought he was as much as it was wishful thinking.
>Maggie "who knew?" Newman
>
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Roger Mostad
byn Greenspan) writes:
:>
:>
:>>
:>>: Did you ever hear a media figure you were *sure* was gay, and wasn't?
:>
:>
:>
:>Paul Schaeffer from the Letterman Show.
:>
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:>"Too much is never enough"
:>cont...@pipeline.com
Yeah but he is both "musical" and "Canadian" yet still not gay...
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Thank God for tea! What would the world do without tea? How did it exist?
I am glad I was not born before tea! -Sydney Smith
ka...@delphi.com
>>****SCOTT HAMILTON!!*** The pro-figureskater
>>
>>I was watching some iceskating thingamajig a couple of weeks ago and they
>mentioned
>>a long term girlfriend. Needless to say I was shocked to pieces. I mean, I
>didn't
>>even think it was a question.
.
>Not only is he apparently straight, I seem to remember reading here last year
>that he is extremely homophobic.
.
He's probably been fighting off drunk gay guys with no taste and
drunk straight gay-bashers for years.
.
A half hour ago I saw a clip of Ernest Borgnine on ET - especially
in his younger, McHale's Navy days - any rumors?
.
kassa
Lisa Rae
you were *sure* was gay, and wasn't?
> He's old enough to stay widowed (widowered?) and no one could possibly
> care enough about his sex life to make it necessary for him to have a
> beard, and the woman can't be expecting some glorious FAME out of
> having married Tony Randall...
Is his new bride the same woman he was with at the Oscars? He got points
from me for trying to push her as a "wonderful actress" whenever any of
the reporters asked about her (not many did.) I got the impression that
she starred with him in one of the Lobsterman films and that she had found
her, shall we be nice and say, stairway to heaven. Does anyone know?
Lisa Rae
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1995 highilights: Getting a personal flame from the Drudge.
Maggie
>>>
>
>As far as the question is concerned, I kind of used to think
>Matthew Broderick was, but I read an amusing interview with
>Harvey Fierstein, whom I'm inclined to believe in such matters,
>who said that he (Matthew) wasn't. Actually, I don't know if
>I thought he was as much as it was wishful thinking.
>
together on film in Torch Song Trilogy!
Oh Steve, I wonder if you figured out what University I was referring to
in my original post....
Maggie "harvad of the mid" Newman
David Migicovsky
sea...@email.unc.edu (C Lassiter) wrote:
>
>: Can't speak for Jeff, but but he DOES like hockey and rock. In Canada
that's
>: usually better proof of heterosexuality than actual videotape of sex with a
>: member of the opposite sex.
>
>Then I guess the fact that I hate both....
>
>
>: David (who confesses to having attended one hockey game in his life but is
>: nevertheless queer as they come) Migicovsky
>
>I'm sorry. Very sorry. (That you attended a hockey game.)
>
>cl
>_____________________
>c.l. lassiter
>sea...@email.unc.edu
It wasn't my fault! Someone gave my father free tickets! It was the only game
he ever attended too.
Further to the hockey theory, I did further research at work today. Two of the
men I questioned could not name a single acquaintance who likes hockey,
although they both knew gay men who have had sex with women (10% from one, 30%
from the other)
A third man insists that more gay men like hockey than sex with women, but
hey, he's a hockey fan.
So at my office anyway, 3 out of 4 homos agree that liking hockey is absolute
proof of heterosxuality in men. As soon as I ask a fifth one, I'll get back to
the group with our opinion of sugarless gum.
David Migicovsky
dmig...@interlog.com
David Migicovsky
Roger_...@mindlink.bc.ca (Roger Mostad) wrote:
>:>"Too much is never enough"
>:>cont...@pipeline.com
>:>
>
>Yeah but he is both "musical" and "Canadian" yet still not gay...
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Roger... Roger_...@mindlink.bc.ca
>
>Thank God for tea! What would the world do without tea? How did it exist?
>I am glad I was not born before tea! -Sydney Smith
>
In addition to being musical and Canadian, Paul Shaffer is also Jewish.
Which brings me to another one of my twisted theories--that effeminacy is a
sign of heterosexuality in Jewish, Canadian, males.
Being Jewish, Canadian, and gay, I have noticed that most of the straight
Canadian Jewish men I know would rate far lower on traditional masculinity
than the gay Jewish men I know.
David's rule: Show me a Jewish man who owns a drill and isn't a dentist, and
I'll show you a gay Jewish man.
David (who owns a drill) Migicovsky
dmig...@interlog.com
ob-gossip I used to work with a straight Jewish man who grew up in Thunder Bay
with Paul Shaffer. He (the guy I worked with) wasn't mechanically inclined
enough to turn on a television.
Michael S Ritchie
>you were *sure* was gay, and wasn't?
>> I think we all wondered about that Tony Randall marriage a few weeks back.
I had always assumed that Robert Morse was gay. A couple of people
who met him at a theater department function at Ohio State many
years ago assured me that he was. Imagine my surprise when, in
an interview with the Advocate (!) a few years ago (around the
time he was in the Toronto production of Show Boat), he discussed
his recent marriage, a la Mr. Randall, to a much younger woman.
The only reference to gayness in the entire interview had to do
with his appearance in "Tru," and his sorrow over losing many
friends to AIDS. It's OK, though; some of my best friends are
straight!
--
Michael Ritchie
mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"Scandal is gossip made tedious by morality"
--Oscar Wilde
Toni
****SCOTT HAMILTON!!*** The pro-figureskater
I was watching some iceskating thingamajig a couple of weeks ago and they mentioned
a long term girlfriend. Needless to say I was shocked to pieces. I mean, I didn't
even think it was a question.
Toni
David Migicovsky
Not only is he apparently straight, I seem to remember reading here last year
Susan Elizabeth
>unmarried and I made assumptions based on his appearance and some of
the
>more "sensitive" comments in his reviews. Then he got married, rather
late
>in life (late 30s, yearly 40s?). But this wasn't what convinced me he
>isn't gay! I was commenting on the marriage to a friend of mine who
>took a film class he taught at a university in his home town. She told
>me that he (I'm cleaning this up a bit 'cause I know he's on the net)
>dated many many females in the classes he took.
Aw, c'mon! Don't clean this up! Tell everyone about his ropes and such....
Susan Elizabeth
>He's old enough to stay widowed (widowered?) and no one could possibly
>care enough about his sex life to make it necessary for him to have a
>beard, and the woman can't be expecting some glorious FAME out of
>having married Tony Randall...
Seems to me I read in some pseudo-psychiatric gossip book years ago
Randall was quoted as saying he was bisexual.
Kristi Coulter
but every now and then some "long-time girlfriend" is mentioned, a la
another poster's Scott Hamilton.
Lori Petty's another one I pegged wrong, apparently.
Kristi
Elizabeth A Esser
it to a friend, and she said, "where did you hear he was gay?" And I
said, "*You* told me!" and she said, "No I didn't!" And I said, "Yes YOU
DID!!" and we went on like this for a while until we finally figured out
that she *did* say that, but she *meant* Rupert Everett. Oops.
So now I'm confused. Is Rupert GRAVES gay, or not?? I've held on to the
idea for so long that I can't accept that he might be straight. Although,
he *did* play a very convincing bisexual in Design for Living on the West End.
Hmmm...
Liza, who wonders why so many people in England would name their kids
"Rupert", anyway
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: David's rule: Show me a Jewish man who owns a drill and isn't a dentist, and
: I'll show you a gay Jewish man.
: David (who owns a drill) Migicovsky
: dmig...@interlog.com
Well, I'm not a dentist, and I have quite a nice drill, thanks. Oh, you
mean an *electric* drill, don't you?
cl, who's not Jewish neither
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Robert Matthews
Smith) wrote:
> pam...@wantree.com.au (Pamela Smith) wrote:
>
> > Brent Spiner
>
> Bzzzzz! Thank you for playing our game.
>
> His live-in girlfriend is his manager and his beard. Old green eyes
> is gay.
>
> Craig
> who's giddy that Levar Burton is too; god, the whole cast was rife
> with 'em!
Is he? Jeez, what I don't know about the private lives of celebrities
would fill a pretty big book. Good for him, I say; with some facial hair
(a beard to tone down those very big eyes and lips) he's keee-yoooot.
Brent Spiner, though, you can keep; in or out of makeup he looks like a
department-store mannequin, and he's the hammiest actor ever to appear on
STTNG, which is saying a lot.
Years ago, when STTNG was still on the air, Michael Musto printed a
blind item to the effect that one of the cast members was hung like a bull
moose. Any idea who it was? I think every male on that show was cited at
one point or another in the gossip I heard and read, but with those Lycra
costumes it's hard to believe that *any* of them had anything out of the
ordinary, unless they used what RuPaul calls "an award-winning tuck". And
it's not in the Anti-FAQ, either. So who knows?
Robert Matthews
Zorak
Quite frankly, I'm surprised when any prominent male figure skater is
straight. Virtually all of them have set off my gaydar.
Oops, one big exception -- Russian male skaters. For some reason, as a
whole they seem quite butch. This, of course, doesn't mean they're
straight, but I'm not surprised when they are.
- Kathy
P.S. Is Scott Hamilton really homophobic? That's unconscionable under
any circumstances, but given the amount of gay men in figure skating I
can't believe he's become a spokesman for his sport if he truly has
expressed homophobic feelings.
Tonia Lorenz
: For many years I was certain film critic Roger Ebert was gay.
The only semi-gossip-worthy thing I've heard is that he's a recovering
alcoholic. And that he's gone Pritiken in the last few years (since his
marriage).
Pretty boring dirt, eh? Paraphrased as, "he tries to take care of his
health."
- Tonia
Rusty Wilson
a big role in FRENCH POST CARDS (which was the first film for Debra
Winger, Blanche Baker, and a few other actors), SUMMER LOVERS with
Daryl Hannah (a young man's dream on a Greek island) and was the
princess that Schwarznegger tried to save in Conan the Barbarian. I
have not heard about her in years and wondered whatever happened to
her.
Joey M.
wrote:
>>****SCOTT HAMILTON!!*** The pro-figureskater
>Not only is he apparently straight, I seem to remember reading here last year
>that he is extremely homophobic.
And so God dammned him to the faggy world of figure skating. Serves
him right!!!!!!
~~~~~~~~~~
Joey
Mary Campbell
Jeremy Brett - married twice, the first time to actress Anna Massey.
Perhaps in view of the recent revelations by Mrs. Denholm Elliott
and our suspicions about every other married celebrity, we oughta
rename this thread "Someone you were SURE wasn't married, but is".
Craig Smith
Htos Drol
>From: jmb...@ix.netcom.com (Joey M.)
>Subject: Re: Someone you were SURE was gay but isn't?
>Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 04:29:01 GMT
>>>****SCOTT HAMILTON!!*** The pro-figureskater
I'd be homophobic, too, if I had to share the same Olympics with Brian
Boitano (sp?).
Dave
Michael S Ritchie
Robert Matthews <jim...@itchy.mi.net> wrote:
>
> Years ago, when STTNG was still on the air, Michael Musto printed a
>blind item to the effect that one of the cast members was hung like a bull
>moose. Any idea who it was? I think every male on that show was cited at
>one point or another in the gossip I heard and read, but with those Lycra
>costumes it's hard to believe that *any* of them had anything out of the
>ordinary, unless they used what RuPaul calls "an award-winning tuck". And
>it's not in the Anti-FAQ, either. So who knows?
Based on the pirate ship scene in the Generations movie, it's
Patrick Stewart; I damn near choked on my popcorn when I saw
his "package" on the big screen!
--Michael
G. Tong
> >you were *sure* was gay, and wasn't?
Fred Astaire. I mean, he used ties for belts!
--
G. Tong
gt...@sirius.com
"Every infinity is composed of only two halves."
Joey M.
wrote:
>In article <sasseDK...@netcom.com> sa...@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse) writes:
>>
>>
>>Did you ever hear a media figure you were *sure* was gay, and wasn't?
>>
>For many years I was certain film critic Roger Ebert was gay. He was
>unmarried and I made assumptions based on his appearance and some of the
>more "sensitive" comments in his reviews. Then he got married, rather late
>in life (late 30s, yearly 40s?). But this wasn't what convinced me he
>isn't gay! I was commenting on the marriage to a friend of mine who
>took a film class he taught at a university in his home town. She told
>me that he (I'm cleaning this up a bit 'cause I know he's on the net)
>dated many many females in the classes he took.
He also wrote "Beyond The Valley of the Dolls", though I'm not sure
WHAT that says about his sexual orientation!
~~~~~~~~~~
Joey
Jet Silverman
:
: Based on the pirate ship scene in the Generations movie, it's
: Patrick Stewart; I damn near choked on my popcorn when I saw
: his "package" on the big screen!
Me, too. WOW! More than any white man should have. :)
J
Jet Silverman
: pam...@wantree.com.au (Pamela Smith) wrote:
:
: > Brent Spiner
:
: Bzzzzz! Thank you for playing our game.
:
: His live-in girlfriend is his manager and his beard. Old green eyes
: is gay.
Craig, you are totally wrong. Spiner is as straight as they come. And his
eyes are blue, btw.
J
MDS
making of "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls" (my all-time favorite
movie, btw!), Roger Ebert and Russ Meyer collaborated on the film
because they both shared a <ahem> *fondness* for extremely busty
gals. I've also heard that Ebert was quite the swinging (het) single
in his day.
--Miriam
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Miriam Sealock "Mmmm...Sacrilicious!"
dov...@wam.umd.edu --Homer Simpson
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~dovebar
Craig Smith
> Years ago, when STTNG was still on the air, Michael Musto printed a
> blind item to the effect that one of the cast members was hung like a bull
> moose. Any idea who it was? I think every male on that show was cited at
> one point or another in the gossip I heard and read, but with those Lycra
> costumes it's hard to believe that *any* of them had anything out of the
> ordinary, unless they used what RuPaul calls "an award-winning tuck". And
> it's not in the Anti-FAQ, either. So who knows?
No inside info on that one, but if I had to guess, it would be Patrick
Stewart. I don't know, there's just something about his build that
reminds me, um, of someone I once, um, knew, who was, um, how do I put
this delicately, donkey-dicked. Amazing chest on him, too. Stewart,
I mean. My, um, acquaintance wasn't bad either.
> Robert Matthews
Craig
who misses Robert's Edward Gorey sig
Robert Matthews
Smith) wrote:
The consensus (well, two posts so far) seem to be that it's Patrick
Stewart. Does Nancy know about this? Has she added it to the anti-FAQ? Was
it there all along and I just didn't happen to notice? (It's not one of
the big obsessions of my life; I was just idly curious. When there's
something that someone else knows, I have to know it too; I'm like a
three-year old and it's kind of pathetic, but what can I do?)
> Craig
> who misses Robert's Edward Gorey sig
How touching! My preferences file for Newswatcher got trashed and I
had to reinstall it, and I just forgot to put in a new .sig file. For you,
here's a new one.
Robert Matthews
David Migicovsky
Back when life and People magazine were young and innocent, (mid-late 70s) a
profile of Bary Manilow in the afore-mentioned magazine matter-of-factly
mentioned that he was bisexual and quoted a former boyfriend.
How has he managed to be both out and in all these years? My theory is that
the thought of him having sex is just too awful to contemplate, so his
sexuality is just ignored.
I subscribe to the philosophy that once you're voluntarily out in national
media, you're out. Are you listening, Charles Perez?
David Migicovsky
dmig...@interlog.com
*nancy*
>In article <jimbob-0401...@jimbob.mi.net>,
>>
>> Years ago, when STTNG was still on the air, Michael Musto printed a
>>blind item to the effect that one of the cast members was hung like a bull
>>moose. Any idea who it was? I think every male on that show was cited at
>>one point or another in the gossip I heard and read, but with those Lycra
>>costumes it's hard to believe that *any* of them had anything out of the
>>ordinary, unless they used what RuPaul calls "an award-winning tuck". And
>>it's not in the Anti-FAQ, either. So who knows?
>
>Patrick Stewart; I damn near choked on my popcorn when I saw
>his "package" on the big screen!
>
I did the same thing. I had heard rumors about Patrick's goodies, but I
felt that scene was proof positive that the rumors were true! To bad
TNGers were squished into girdles to hide their manliness.....I would
have enjoyed it much more if they just let those spandex suits showed
Patrick's goodies all the time!!!!!!
--
/\_____/\
/ o o \
( == ^ == )
) - ( http://www.rt66.com/~nlopez/
( )
( ( ) ( ) )
(__(__)___(__)__) *nancy*
Craig Smith
> : > Brent Spiner
> :
> : Bzzzzz! Thank you for playing our game.
> :
> : His live-in girlfriend is his manager and his beard. Old green eyes
> : is gay.
> :
>
> Craig, you are totally wrong. Spiner is as straight as they come. And his
> eyes are blue, btw.
It was a not-so-veiled reference to his (intentionally?) laughable
recording, "Ol' Green Eyes is Back." And as to his orientation, you
say I'm totally wrong but offer not a scintilla of proof. What, did
you sleep with him? (Of course, "straight as they come" could very
well mean that no one is *completely* straight, but somehow I think
this subtlety may be beyond you.)
Craig
Craig Smith
> >Craig
> >who's giddy that Levar Burton is too; god, the whole cast was rife
> >with 'em!
>
> I've heard about George Takei (Sulu from TOS) but not Burton - what's your
> source?
I remember an old "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" (NOT that I
watched it very often, mind you) which featured Burton. Whereas most
people bring their spouses or significant others on these trips,
Burton brought a male, very hunky, friend; and while I'll grant that
it's not impossible that their friendship was platonic, they seemed
VERY affectionate with each other, touching each other on the arm or
shoulder periodically, etc. And the ever-obnoxious Robin-the-Leech
mentioned this fellow only once, as "Levar's 'friend' " (you could
almost hear the quotation marks around "friend"), and not by name.
On top of that, a good friend of mine is a close friend of several of
the Trek stars, and she reports that Burton--like Takei, Wheaton,
Spiner, etc.--is widely known to be gay, even if he's not out waving a
flag about it.
Granted, this won't be enough proof for those who would only accept
the sworn testimony of someone who slept with them, or word from the
stars themselves, but as gossip goes, this feels pretty conclusive to
me.
Craig
resistance is futile; prepare to be assimilated
V Zadah
: Michael S Ritchie (mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
:: Based on the pirate ship scene in the Generations movie, it's
:: Patrick Stewart; I damn near choked on my popcorn when I saw
:: his "package" on the big screen!
: Me, too. WOW! More than any white man should have. :)
LOOK, everybody!!! Jet made a *joke*!!!
*Nice* Jet...*GOOD* Jet...
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Born to Opine
Chris Peek
frequent the conventions- o' scuze me ....."Trekkers". For me Brent Spiner
never set off the so called "gaydar" and despite others feelings about it I
really have a hard time pegging him as definitely gay unless someone has
concrete evidence ot the contrary. Levar Burton on the other hand is quite
possibly the most effeminate male ever to board a starship ...hell he's more
effeminate than most of the female cast members.
ga...@world.std.com (Andrew Gavin) wrote:
>crs...@ix.netcom.com (Craig Smith) writes:
>>pam...@wantree.com.au (Pamela Smith) wrote:
>>> Brent Spiner
>>Bzzzzz! Thank you for playing our game.
>>His live-in girlfriend is his manager and his beard. Old green eyes
>>is gay.
>I've always put him in the "Well, duh!" category - sets off my gaydar
>from galaxies away.
>>Craig
>>who's giddy that Levar Burton is too; god, the whole cast was rife
>>with 'em!
>I've heard about George Takei (Sulu from TOS) but not Burton - what's your
>source?
>--
>"To Wong Foo was like Cocoon, only with drag queens."
>Andy (ga...@world.std.com)
Jet Silverman
: j...@cinenet.net (Jet Silverman) wrote:
:
: >
: > eyes are blue, btw.
:
: It was a not-so-veiled reference to his (intentionally?) laughable
: recording, "Ol' Green Eyes is Back." And as to his orientation, you
: say I'm totally wrong but offer not a scintilla of proof. What, did
: you sleep with him? (Of course, "straight as they come" could very
: well mean that no one is *completely* straight, but somehow I think
: this subtlety may be beyond you.)
Well, it is called "Ol' Yellow Eyes...". I can't tell you *exactly* how I
know Spiner is straight, as it would violate his privacy. However, I can
say I know this from first hand experience. "Straight as they come" is
just an expression, sorry no deep meaning behind it.
Why are you so hostile to Brent?
Jet Silverman
:
: : Me, too. WOW! More than any white man should have. :)
:
: LOOK, everybody!!! Jet made a *joke*!!!
:
: *Nice* Jet...*GOOD* Jet...
Oh, thank you, thank you.
J
Jet Silverman
: come"? A friend of a friend who's been boffing him? You're guessing
: he's straight just as much as others are guessing he's gay. It's a
: shame to have such a cool Nethandle and almost no clues.
:
Sorry, sugar. No guessing. No FOAF info. My info is first hand.
J
Chris
I think Richard Gere is straight after all. Don't you think?
Chris
Jet Silverman
: On top of that, a good friend of mine is a close friend of several of
: the Trek stars, and she reports that Burton--like Takei, Wheaton,
: Spiner, etc.--is widely known to be gay, even if he's not out waving a
: flag about it.
Yeah, some guy who worked on the TNG set (Or at least claimed to) told me
Spiner is openly gay. And that his girlfriend is really a man. Yeah, right.
I believe him as much as I believe your friend.
J
Anima
>In article <4cgqso$9...@cloner3.netcom.com>, crs...@ix.netcom.com (Craig
>Smith) wrote:
>> pam...@wantree.com.au (Pamela Smith) wrote:
>> > Brent Spiner
>> Bzzzzz! Thank you for playing our game.
>> His live-in girlfriend is his manager and his beard. Old green eyes
>> is gay.
>> Craig
>> who's giddy that Levar Burton is too; god, the whole cast was rife
>> with 'em!
Really? Both of them? Cool. How is this known?
> Years ago, when STTNG was still on the air, Michael Musto printed a
>blind item to the effect that one of the cast members was hung like a bull
>moose. Any idea who it was? I think every male on that show was cited at
Everyone seems to agree it's Picard.
--
an...@io.com When making public policy decisions about new technologies
for the Government, I think one should ask oneself which technologies would
best strengthen the hand of a police state. Then, do not allow the Government
to deploy those technologies. --Philip Zimmermann
Alex Gaal
Jerry Rice. I think his earrings in the wrong ear but that's not the
only reason.
R. E. Meyer
Migicovsky) wrote:
> Back when life and People magazine were young and innocent, (mid-late 70s) a
> profile of Bary Manilow in the afore-mentioned magazine matter-of-factly
> mentioned that he was bisexual and quoted a former boyfriend.
>
> David Migicovsky
> dmig...@interlog.com
Fey, skinny, forty-ish, never married, dotes on his mom, wears angora
sweaters to Tower Records on Sunset? Yapping little dogs in the car?
Gay. Obviously. Jesus.
Craig Smith
Are you telling us--and the whole world is listening, Jet--that you
fucked Brent Spiner?
As the refrain goes, "Details, we want details!"
Craig
ka...@delphi.com
>: Gee, Jet, just exactly how do you know he is "straight as they
>: come"? A friend of a friend who's been boffing him? You're guessing
>: he's straight just as much as others are guessing he's gay. It's a
>: shame to have such a cool Nethandle and almost no clues.
>:
>
>Sorry, sugar. No guessing. No FOAF info. My info is first hand.
Hand jobs don't count.
.
kassa
Michael S Ritchie
Jet Silverman <j...@cinenet.net> wrote:
>Craig Smith (crs...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: And as to his orientation, you
>: say I'm totally wrong but offer not a scintilla of proof. What, did
>: you sleep with him? (Of course, "straight as they come" could very
>: well mean that no one is *completely* straight, but somehow I think
>: this subtlety may be beyond you.)
>:
>
>know Spiner is straight, as it would violate his privacy. However, I can
>say I know this from first hand experience.
Engaging in occasional het sex doesn't necessarily make one "straight
as they come" anymore than occasional gay sex makes someone Absolutely
Queer. However, I still think Jet is full of shit.
>Why are you so hostile to Brent?
Wondering if someone is gay is *not* an expression of hostility,
at least not among most of us here on a.s.g., and if you haven't
learned that in your months in residency, you should turn in
your modem.
--
Michael Ritchie mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"We cherish our friends not for their ability to amuse us, but for
ours to amuse them." --Evelyn Waugh
Michael S Ritchie
Craig Smith <crs...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>j...@cinenet.net (Jet Silverman) wrote:
>
>> Michael S Ritchie (mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
>> :
>> : come"? A friend of a friend who's been boffing him?
>>
>
>fucked Brent Spiner?
No, Jet is just feeling a little ignored and wants some attention.
--Michael
*nancy*
>Craig Smith wrote:
>
>>It was a not-so-veiled reference to his (intentionally?) laughable
>> recording, "Ol' Green Eyes is Back." And as to his
>
>
>& show tunes. A must-have for every devoted ST:TNG fan.
>
>----JWS
>
I've heard rumors that Brent is planning on making a second "Ol' Yellow
Eyes is Back".
ru...@pchbbs.com
> Well, I've always wondered about Barry Manilow. I could swear he's
> gay,
> but every now and then some "long-time girlfriend" is mentioned, a
> la
> another poster's Scott Hamilton.
Barry Manilow NOT gay? Please! I once saw him leaving a gay bar in New York
with a boy on each arm.
"Not that there's anything wrong with that."
Roger Mostad
:>
:>Hi,
:>
:>
:>
:>
:>I think Richard Gere is straight after all. Don't you think?
:>
:>
:>Chris
:>
We can only hope...
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Roger... Roger_...@mindlink.bc.ca
Thank God for tea! What would the world do without tea? How did it exist?
I am glad I was not born before tea! -Sydney Smith
*NaNcY*
Don't forget that Barry started working for Bette Midler after hearing
her sing in the gay bathhouses in NYC.
Hitcher
(Robert Matthews) wrote:
> The consensus (well, two posts so far) seem to be that it's Patrick
> Stewart. Does Nancy know about this? Has she added it to the anti-FAQ? Was
> it there all along and I just didn't happen to notice? (It's not one of
> the big obsessions of my life; I was just idly curious. When there's
> something that someone else knows, I have to know it too; I'm like a
> three-year old and it's kind of pathetic, but what can I do?)
I recall seeing him tromping around the decks in his "P.J.'s" and also
being stunned at the basket he shows. Usually, be uniform hides any
clues, but it is also rare that Jean-Luc was ever in "casual" clothing.
Now I understand why Cmmndr. Ryker said that he would rather not be
promoted than leave The Enterprise... (and all along I thought he was
referring to the *ship*!!)
--------
RE: Rupert Holmes IS gay. He is very out. There was a big deal
interview a cpl yrs back in the Advocate when his "Campy, gay novel" was
published.
Yet Another Steve
wrote:
> Craig Smith wrote:
> >It was a not-so-veiled reference to his (intentionally?) laughable
> > recording, "Ol' Green Eyes is Back." And as to his
>
> "Ol' *Yellow* Eyes is Back". An unremarkable collection of standards
> & show tunes. A must-have for every devoted ST:TNG fan.
Off-topic, sorry: There was at one time a rumor that Elton John had planned
to title one of his albums "Old Pink Eyes is Back" (after Sinatra's "Old
Blue Eyes..") but was dissuaded by a telegram from Frankie which read "Change
album title unless you want it to be "Old One Eye Is Back".
Steve
Jet Silverman
: > Sorry, sugar. No guessing. No FOAF info. My info is first hand.
: Are you telling us--and the whole world is listening, Jet--that you
: fucked Brent Spiner?
: As the refrain goes, "Details, we want details!"
:
Well, unless I get permission, I've given all the details I can!
J
Jet Silverman
: as they come" anymore than occasional gay sex makes someone Absolutely
: Queer. However, I still think Jet is full of shit.
Just shows how little you know...
:
: >Why are you so hostile to Brent?
:
: Wondering if someone is gay is *not* an expression of hostility,
: at least not among most of us here on a.s.g., and if you haven't
: learned that in your months in residency, you should turn in
: your modem.
:
Hold on there. Touchy aren't we? I was talking about Craig's bashing of
Brent's looks, and acting/singing ability. Why did you assume it had
anything to do with talking about Spiner's sexuality?
J
nej
totally invisible in his life. I'd say gay from the mannerisms - any
input for the asg-ers??
Michael S Ritchie
Jet Silverman <j...@cinenet.net> wrote:
>Hold on there. Touchy aren't we? I was talking about Craig's bashing of
>Brent's looks, and acting/singing ability. Why did you assume it had
>anything to do with talking about Spiner's sexuality?
Perhaps because you are as clear about what you're repsonding
to as you are about explaining how you know Spiner's sexuality.
In other words, as clear as the slushy snow outside my window.
--Mike
Patricia Steward
1) You've gotten the thread backwards, I do believe.
2) Dunno why, exactly, but my 'dar pings "bi" on Rickman.
--
Patricia Martin Steward pams...@nyx.cs.du.edu
I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is;
I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express senti-
ments that differentiate me from a doormat. --Rebecca West, 1913
INGWM
Jeff Kirk
>: he's straight just as much as others are guessing he's gay. It's a
>: shame to have such a cool Nethandle and almost no clues.
>:
>
Sorry Jet, but even if your info is first hand - and by this I'm guessing
you mean either you or a very close female friend had sex with him - it
doesn't mean he's necessarily straight. He could very well still be bi,
unbeknownst to you.
Jeff
Darlene Foster
Lo...@elmocat.demon.co.uk says...
>In article <rem-070196...@user14.znet.net>, "R. E. Meyer"
><r...@znet.com> writes
>Sorry, but Barry was married waaaayyyy long ago. A brief marriage to
>his high school sweetheart. Enough said.
>...Lo
You're right that he was married once long ago and the longtime
girlfriend is named Linda. If you've ever seen her you'd begin to
doubt that either of them is straight. Can you say "beard both ways"?
I think Barry was playing piano in the NY bathhouses when he and Bette
Midler met and he went to work for her.
Darlene
ka...@delphi.com
>>> Barry Manilow NOT gay? Please! I once saw him
>>> leaving a gay bar in New York
>>> with a boy on each arm.
>>
>>> "Not that there's anything wrong with that."
>>Isn't is possible that Bar was simply giving a couple of friends a
>>ride home after a quiet night on the town?
>
.
>friend...... I always thought it was pretty common knowledge that Barry
>was indeed gay. I said it somewhere around here before that Barry met
>Bette Middler when she was singing in the Gay Baths of NYC. Barry was her
>arranger and really helped Bette with her acts in the early 1970s.
.
But surely Barry was drawn to working at the baths because of
the marvelous accoustics?
.
kassa
Craig Smith
> OK. Pamela shuffles into the e-mail spotlight, having created something
> of a bijou stormette with her comment about Brent Spiner, shuts her eyes
> really tightly, folds her arms over her head and whispers:
>
> "What's that about Takei, Wheaton and Spiner???"
George came out some years ago; friends were sure he was going to
discuss it in his recent autobiography, but either he or his publisher
chickened out, because he was quiet on the subject.
Wheaton has been linked with both Brian Austin Greene and Chad
Whatsisname from Dr. Quinn, and is happily ensconced in a long-term
relationship with a guy, according to his mother the real estate
agent, who told this to one of the a.s.g. regulars.
Brent is working overtime to keep it a secret; reportedly his
long-term live-in girlfriend, who is also his manager, is a beard, but
this has been hotly disputed by some of his fans (who have yet to
provide a scintilla of evidence to the contrary; they say they have
"first hand knowledge" but won't say anything more).
Craig
who just wishes some of the *characters* would be gay, and no, Trills
don't count
Craig Smith
> I thought that we already agreed that an actor's role in a film does not
> classify his sexual orientation. If that was true, then he'd have been
> tagged long ago before the release of "Toy Soldiers" due to the fact that
> the character of Wesly Crusher in ST:TNG is the GAYEST in Starfleet history,
> thus making Wil gay. But, in real life, thankfully, this is not the case.
But he IS, Blanche, he IS.
Htos Drol
>From: crs...@ix.netcom.com (Craig Smith)
>Subject: Re: Someone you were SURE was gay but isn't?
>Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 16:36:01 GMT
>grumb...@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Htos Drol) wrote:
I mean that "in real life" it is not the case that your role on a show
determines sexual orientataion. Is Wil Wheaton gay? Probably...but, who
cares?
Dave
Htos Drol
>From: ga...@world.std.com (Andrew Gavin)
>Subject: Re: Someone you were SURE was gay but isn't?
>in...@aol.com (INGWM) writes:
>>In response to the STTNG question check out Will Wheaton in "Toy Soldiers"
>What about him, so we don't have to rent such a bad movie?
I thought that we already agreed that an actor's role in a film does not
classify his sexual orientation. If that was true, then he'd have been
tagged long ago before the release of "Toy Soldiers" due to the fact that
the character of Wesly Crusher in ST:TNG is the GAYEST in Starfleet history,
thus making Wil gay. But, in real life, thankfully, this is not the case.
Dave
John Sullivan
>> Well, I've always wondered about Barry Manilow. I could swear he's
>> gay,
>> but every now and then some "long-time girlfriend" is mentioned, a
>> la
>> another poster's Scott Hamilton.
> Barry Manilow NOT gay? Please! I once saw him
> leaving a gay bar in New York
> with a boy on each arm.
> "Not that there's anything wrong with that."
I realize that I'm new here, but I thought the rule on these sorts of
things was that only first-hand experience really counted.
Isn't is possible that Bar was simply giving a couple of friends a
ride home after a quiet night on the town?
----JWS
"some of my best friends are straight"
Joey M.
wrote:
>I've always wondered about Burt Reynolds. I look who his best friends
>are.. Charles Nelson Riley and Dom Deluise..... not exactly butch!!
I was at a bar the other day that was running loops of old movies on
their monitors and one of the scenes they showed was that showering
scene where Burt is rubbing himself only to find more hands joining
in, only to turn out it's Dom and Marty Feldman. Like some comic gay
porn or something. And how could ANY straight man where that neck
scarf with a straight face, geez, I'm gay and wouldn't be caught dead
in that heinous thing.
~~~~~~~~~
Joey
Lois Aronow
<Spens...@msn.com> writes
No.
>
>----JWS
> "some of my best friends are straight"
----------
Lois |
lo...@elmocat.demon.co.uk |
*NANCY*
>What about Alan Rickman? Supposed to live with a woman but she is
>totally invisible in his life. I'd say gay from the mannerisms - any
>input for the asg-ers??
>
>
Mannerisms??? Mannerisms!!!!! I would guess that most men were gay by their
mannerisms. Of course there is being Queeny, but then not all Queens are
gay!
/\_____/\
/ o o \
( == ^ == )
) - (
( ) http://www.rt66.com/~nlopez/
David Migicovsky
Hit...@westworld.com (Hitcher) wrote:
>RE: Rupert Holmes IS gay. He is very out. There was a big deal
>interview a cpl yrs back in the Advocate when his "Campy, gay novel" was
>published.
I believe you mean Rupert Everett. And he's bi, not gay.
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Jet Silverman
:
: Sorry Jet, but even if your info is first hand - and by this I'm guessing
: doesn't mean he's necessarily straight. He could very well still be bi,
: unbeknownst to you.
Yes, he could be bi, but then he wouldn't be gay either. Now would he?
J
*NANCY*
>ru...@pchbbs.com wrote:
>
> >> Well, I've always wondered about Barry Manilow. I could swear he's
> >> gay,
> >> but every now and then some "long-time girlfriend" is mentioned, a
> >> la
> >> another poster's Scott Hamilton.
>
>
>> Barry Manilow NOT gay? Please! I once saw him
>> leaving a gay bar in New York
>> with a boy on each arm.
>
>> "Not that there's anything wrong with that."
>
>I realize that I'm new here, but I thought the rule on these sorts of
>things was that only first-hand experience really counted.
>
>Isn't is possible that Bar was simply giving a couple of friends a
>ride home after a quiet night on the town?
Rules? We don't need no stinking rules here! Some of us will find
rumors from a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend acceptable.
Anyway, a direct gay bar sighting is even better than the friend of a
friend...... I always thought it was pretty common knowledge that Barry
was indeed gay. I said it somewhere around here before that Barry met
Bette Middler when she was singing in the Gay Baths of NYC. Barry was her
arranger and really helped Bette with her acts in the early 1970s.
Chris Peek
them a ride... a train ride. Choo! Choo!
Spens...@msn.com (John Sullivan) wrote:
>ru...@pchbbs.com wrote:
> >> Well, I've always wondered about Barry Manilow. I could swear he's
> >> gay,
> >> but every now and then some "long-time girlfriend" is mentioned, a
> >> la
> >> another poster's Scott Hamilton.
>
>> Barry Manilow NOT gay? Please! I once saw him
>> leaving a gay bar in New York
>> with a boy on each arm.
>
>> "Not that there's anything wrong with that."
>I realize that I'm new here, but I thought the rule on these sorts of
>things was that only first-hand experience really counted.
>Isn't is possible that Bar was simply giving a couple of friends a
>ride home after a quiet night on the town?
>----JWS
Htos Drol
>From: al...@skypoint.com (alan)
>Subject: Re: Someone you were SURE was gay but isn't?
>>If that was true, then he'd have been
>>tagged long ago before the release of "Toy Soldiers" due to the fact that
>>the character of Wesly Crusher in ST:TNG is the GAYEST in Starfleet history,
>>thus making Wil gay. But, in real life, thankfully, this is not the case.
>Thankfully!?!? Thankfully!!!!?????
>You're a sexist, bigotted jerk!
I'm a bigoted jerk because "real life" isn't determined by a movie
role. Hmmm....I thought that I was NORMAL!
Maybe you are a bit TOO sensitive, Alan. Relax...it's really NOT real.
Sheesh,
Dave
>Alan
>That is, because of, because of our,
>that is, we are attempting,
>the position is to withhold information
>and to cover up - this is totally true -
>you could say it is totally untrue.
>-----Richard Milhous Nixon
-=JR=-
grumb...@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu says...
> I thought that we already agreed that an actor's role in a film does not
>classify his sexual orientation. If that was true, then he'd have been
>tagged long ago before the release of "Toy Soldiers" due to the fact that
>the character of Wesly Crusher in ST:TNG is the GAYEST in Starfleet history,
>thus making Wil gay. But, in real life, thankfully, this is not the case.
>
> Dave
To quote the incomparable PM-S:"Oh goodie, fresh meat!"
Annie Alpert
>girlfriend is named Linda. If you've ever seen her you'd begin to
>doubt that either of them is straight. Can you say "beard both ways"?
> I think Barry was playing piano in the NY bathhouses when he and
Bette >Midler met and he went to work for her.
>
I do remember a very peculiar time when Barry Manilow declared his
undying love for NY cable porn-star/talkshow hostess, Robin Byrd. They
had plans on marrying, he said when they appeared together on a talk
show (could it have been Regis?). Seemed odd at the time and I never
heard obout it again. A rather plamboyant beard-attempt, I guess.
--
Annie Alpert
"All would be well,
All would be heavenly--
If the damned would only stay damned."--Charles Font, 1919
alan
> I thought that we already agreed that an actor's role in a film does not
>classify his sexual orientation.
Yes we did.
>If that was true, then he'd have been
>tagged long ago before the release of "Toy Soldiers" due to the fact that
>the character of Wesly Crusher in ST:TNG is the GAYEST in Starfleet history,
>thus making Wil gay. But, in real life, thankfully, this is not the case.
Thankfully!?!? Thankfully!!!!?????
You're a sexist, bigotted jerk!
Alan
Jet Silverman
: : Jet Silverman (j...@cinenet.net) wrote:
:
:
: : Sorry, sugar. No guessing. No FOAF info. My info is first hand.
:
: Jet!!! You mean, you tried to fuck him and he said *NO*???
:
Well, if that were the case it would mean he *IS* gay.
J
Joseph Marrazzo
Migicovsky) writes:
>I subscribe to the philosophy that once you're voluntarily out in
national
>media, you're out. Are you listening, Charles Perez?
>
>David Migicovsky
>dmig...@interlog.com
David, thank you for stating what truly needs to be said. But you need
to say it loud enough for Jodie Foster to hear as well. Maybe send
Ellen Degeneres a little note, too. Once you are out publicily, it's a
little stupid to ask everyone to collectively forget you ever were once
you hit big time.
~~~~~~~~~~
Joey
Jet Silverman
:
: Straight means not gay OR bi - it means hetero. Now, does this mean you're
: "readjusting" your position from him being "definitely straight" to him being
: "definitely not gay"? Will you admit he could be bi (i.e. NOT straight)?
This is really nit-picky. But, as far as I can tell, Spiner is straight.
Could he be gay or bi? Of course, he could, I can't read minds, only
observe actions.
J
Jeff Kirk
No, he wouldn't be gay either, but to quote your previous message...
"I can't tell you *exactly* how I know Spiner is straight, as it would
violate his privacy. However, I can say I know this from first hand
experience. "Straight as they come" is just an expression, sorry no deep
meaning behind it."
Straight means not gay OR bi - it means hetero. Now, does this mean you're
"readjusting" your position from him being "definitely straight" to him being
"definitely not gay"? Will you admit he could be bi (i.e. NOT straight)?
Jeff
Chris Peek
workshop on low self esteem will you sweetie???!!
Ellen Sasse
> V Zadah (v...@linex.com) wrote:
> : : Jet Silverman (j...@cinenet.net) wrote:
> : : Sorry, sugar. No guessing. No FOAF info. My info is first hand.
> : Jet!!! You mean, you tried to fuck him and he said *NO*???
>
> Well, if that were the case it would mean he *IS* gay.
>
> J
No, it would mean he has good taste.
<Slam!> Walked into that one, didn't you?
Ellen
sa...@netcom.com
Zanda
Smith) writes:
>pam...@wantree.com.au (Pamela Smith) wrote:
>
>> Brent Spiner
>
>Bzzzzz! Thank you for playing our game.
>
>His live-in girlfriend is his manager and his beard. Old green eyes
>is gay.
>
>Craig
>who's giddy that Levar Burton is too; god, the whole cast was rife
>with 'em!
Anyone, who really knows Brent will tell you he's not gay and his eye are
blue not green. There use to be a guy who was openly gay, that worked on
Next Trek who said none of the regular cast was gay. He has worked behind
the scenes on the show and the original cast movies before leaving
Paramount for a better job, he knew all of them pretty well.
Z-woman
Barbara MacRae
>In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.96011...@bessel.nando.net> Mollie O'Dell <mol...@nando.net> writes:
>
>>Great heavens, folks, does it really MATTER? After all, he's not someone
>>you're going to ask to go out with, is he? Sheez, you can drool all you
>>want over someone, male or female, and KNOW that their sexual preference
>>SHOULDN'T matter in the least.
>
>>This straight-or-gay feces isn't any of our business anyway. Sure it
>>makes great GOSSIP, but gossip hurts in the long run.
>
>Mollie -
> *please* note that this is alt.showbiz.GOSSIP! We take great pleasure, no
>matter how painful, in talking about it. And yes, it does matter since a
>celebrity's sexuality is something that can be gossiped about no matter if we
>want that person or not.
What? Sorry - I missed the first part of this thread. I was over in
alt.food.cooking-with-beef, telling them how sick it is to eat dead
cows, and how it will only kill them in the long run. Now, where were
we?
-Barb
Jet Silverman
Jeff Kirk (kir...@onr.com) wrote:
:
: But his actions are not necessarily indicative of his true sexuality. He
: could fuck his girlfriend five times a night and still be "gay" in terms of
: his actual sexual preference. Millions of men (and women) do it all the
: time; it's called being "in the closet".
Well, then how can this be a topic for debate? If we cannot look at
actions, we would have to be able to read minds and/or be the person
being talked about.
So, if Brent said, "I am gay!". We wouldn't know, because he *could* be
lying.
So what do you accept as evidence of someones' sexual preference?
J
Lee Weiser
Barb -
Well, what's your opinion on whether or not we cause pain by gossiping
about gay and straight feces and if we want them or not? And if we don't, does
talking about them really matter? Or maybe it has to do with how long they run
and having a parent who sells real estate. I dunno....maybe I'll just go visit
alt.wander.aimlessly and see what's cooking over there.
---Lee
Htos Drol
>From: j...@cinenet.net (Jet Silverman)
>Subject: Re: Someone you were SURE was gay but isn't?
>Well, then how can this be a topic for debate? If we cannot look at
>actions, we would have to be able to read minds and/or be the person
>being talked about.
>So, if Brent said, "I am gay!". We wouldn't know, because he *could* be
>lying.
>So what do you accept as evidence of someones' sexual preference?
I think that this is a great topic for debate, especially on a.s.g.
What type of evidence IS taken as gospel where rumors about sexual
preference are concerned? The poster quoted above is truly right in his
argument.
Any thoughts?
Dave