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Ed

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In <19961108082...@ladder01.news.aol.com> mamb...@aol.com
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>Re: David Brinkley's closing remarks on election night.
>
>Senile?
>Drunk?
>Disoriented?
>Trance channeling?

Or maybe he just wanted to be remembered.

Robert Larry Morris

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mamb...@aol.com wrote:
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> Re: David Brinkley's closing remarks on election night.
>
> Senile?
> Drunk?
> Disoriented?
> Trance channeling?


How about a news caster and journalist for once telling the truth? Nah! Too far fetched!

The Gnome
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* The floggings will continue until morale improves...........*

Dan J.

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He looks ill. He'd be a "shrunken" vote for sure. I'd vote for senile and
drunk (disoriented kind of comes with that territory). Any rumors on his
health? He really looks bad.

Dan


Ed <edm...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
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> >Re: David Brinkley's closing remarks on election night.
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> >Senile?
> >Drunk?
> >Disoriented?
> >Trance channeling?
>

Laura Bryannan

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In article <328339...@thegnomes.cns.vt.edu>, Robert Larry Morris
<theg...@thegnomes.cns.vt.edu> wrote:

>mamb...@aol.com wrote:
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>> x-no-archive: yes
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>> Re: David Brinkley's closing remarks on election night.
>>
>> Senile?
>> Drunk?
>> Disoriented?
>> Trance channeling?
>
>
>How about a news caster and journalist for once telling the truth? Nah! Too far
fetched!

Hey! You beat me to it! My call is that he was being completely
honest and didn't realize he was still on the air. That someone
might feel that way about Clinton isn't that big of a stretch
in *my* mind. Why the need for fancy theories, folks?

laura

Brian Westley

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"Good night, David"

---
Merlyn LeRoy
(Chet went out much better)

John McDonnell

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mamb...@aol.com wrote:

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>Re: David Brinkley's closing remarks on election night.

>Senile?
>Drunk?
>Disoriented?
>Trance channeling?

Maybe he was simply tired of 30-plus years of keeping his true
feelings to himself. Sure, he presents his opinions on t.v., but I've
always felt that a guy like him who's been around Washington all those
years and seen the politicians without their makeup on must have a lot
more vitriol in him than he can safely express on t.v.

On Charlie Rose last night, he was back to the edited versions of his
opinions, calling Clinton "a skilled politician", and "good at what he
does", when Rose asked him "What do you think of Clinton?" With
Brinkley, you have to read between the lines. If all he can say about
a President after four years is that he's "a skilled politician", it's
a pretty weak endorsement.

I'll miss Brinkley. He could say more with a raised eyebrow than
pundits like John McLaughlin could say in a half-hour of bombastic
pontificating.

--
John McDonnell
Researcher's Toolkit http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/6100


Mary Campbell

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(mamb...@aol.com) writes:
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> Re: David Brinkley's closing remarks on election night.
>
> Senile?
> Drunk?
> Disoriented?
> Trance channeling?


He's 76 and, as he said, he's leaving the business. Maybe it was one or
more of the above, maybe he just wanted to say what he really thought.

Terry Hicks

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A related observation about David Brinkley's odd little outburst on
election night: If he'd said what he did about the Republican
candidate, talk radio and the Usenet -- much the same thing, really --
would even now be seething with righteous indignation over this
blatant example of the lying eastern liberal media's blatant bias.

Personally, I think it was probably a calculated attempt to end his
career in a memorable fashion. If so, it certainly succeeded -- but
not in a way that did him or his network any credit.

T.

P.S. Bringing this around to showbiz gossip, so that Patricia won't
yell at me -- anybody else see how obvious it is that he and Chet were
longtime lovers?

John Bell

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I love brinkley, but given the landslide in progress, I had a couple of
drinks and watched a movie tuesday. What in dog's name did the man
say?

John

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except on Saturday night
when I make the martinis.
- L. Douglas
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Mary Campbell

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Laura Bryannan (la...@isp.nwu.edu) writes:
> In article <328339...@thegnomes.cns.vt.edu>, Robert Larry Morris
> <theg...@thegnomes.cns.vt.edu> wrote:
>>mamb...@aol.com wrote:
>>>

>>> Re: David Brinkley's closing remarks on election night.
>>> Senile?
>>> Drunk?
>>> Disoriented?
>>> Trance channeling?
>>

>>How about a news caster and journalist for once telling the truth? Nah! Too far
> fetched!
>
> Hey! You beat me to it! My call is that he was being completely
> honest and didn't realize he was still on the air. That someone
> might feel that way about Clinton isn't that big of a stretch
> in *my* mind. Why the need for fancy theories, folks?

He may been completely honest but both Sam Donaldson and Peter Jennings
interrupted him to warn him that he was on the air. His reaction was
"Too bad" and he went on to say his piece.


Jesse Garon

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jg...@cde.psu.edu (John Bell) writes:

>I love brinkley, but given the landslide in progress, I had a couple of
>drinks and watched a movie tuesday. What in dog's name did the man say?

I watched election coverage, but our ABC affiliate decided to cut away
from the network feed way too early in the evening, so I missed Brinkley,
too. What did he say?

"Jesse Garon" hopes he tore the designers of SPACESHIP ABC a new hole
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gri...@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~grifter/jesse.html


Erik Bause

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> Maybe he was simply tired of 30-plus years of keeping his true
> feelings to himself. Sure, he presents his opinions on t.v., but I've
> always felt that a guy like him who's been around Washington all those
> years and seen the politicians without their makeup on must have a lot
> more vitriol in him than he can safely express on t.v.

I agree. He's on the verge of retiring, or at least assuming a more
"limited" role. In his position, why not say exactly what you're
thinking. Think of how many times he must have wanted to do that over
the years.
---
Erik Bause/Bause Associates
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jg...@cde.psu.edu (John Bell) writes:

>I love brinkley, but given the landslide in progress, I had a couple of
>drinks and watched a movie tuesday. What in dog's name did the man say?

Someone sent me a transcript of how it went:

>First comment:
>
> <As they come back from a commercial>
>
> Jennings: Well why don't we let Jeff Greenfield have a go at it
>first?
>
> Brinkley: No, let me have a go at it first.
>
> <a few chuckles from the panel, short pause>
>
> <Brinkley and Greenfield start talking at the same time, then stop.>
>
> Jennings: Go ahead, David.
>
> Brinkley: I wish to say that we all look forward with great pleasure
> to four years of wonderful, inspiring speeches, full of
>wit,
> poetry, music, love, and affection -- plus more God-damned
> nonsense than..."
>
> <The last word or two of Brinkley's statement is drowned out by
> nervous laughter from the rest of the panel>
>
> Jennings: You can't say that on the air, Mr. Brinkley!
>
> Brinkley: But I'm not on the air! <pause> I was amused to read that
> Ross Perot...
>
> Jennings: David, just let me [garbled], we are on the air.
> I just want you to make sure...
>
> Brinkley: [chuckling] Too bad. Too bad -- I told you I was
> leaving [garbled].
>
> <His last line was delivered in an amused "so what are they going
> to do, fire me?" tone of voice>
>
>
>Second comment:
>
> Brinkley: Among things I admire, almost near the top is creativeness,
> and everyone in this group has it. It shows in your work,
> it shows in your thinking, and it shows in your speech,
> what you do, what you write, what you say, and it's one
> reason this group is so terrific. Bill Clinton has none
> of it. He has not a creative bone in his body. Therefore
> he's a bore, and will always be a bore.
>
> Jennings: [Amused] Strong letters to follow, David...
>
> <laughter from panel, Brinkley begins to continue>
>
> Jennings: David, thank you very much for everything...
>
> <cut to commercial>

-------------------------------------------------------
"I wish to say that we all look forward with great pleasure to four years of wonderful, inspiring speeches, full of wit, poetry, music, love and affection, plus more goddamn nonsense." -- David Brinkley, 11/6/96, remarking on the re-election of the Clintons

Julie Brumley

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In <01bbcd7b$6428fd60$c23c...@631140923worldnet.att.net> "Dan J."

<d...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
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>He looks ill. He'd be a "shrunken" vote for sure. I'd vote for
senile and
>drunk (disoriented kind of comes with that territory). Any rumors on
his
>health? He really looks bad.

Telling the truth on national TV gets him votes for senile & drunk?
Maybe he was having that one totally lucid moment of his life.
Julie

SEVIGNY

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mamb...@aol.com wrote:
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>
> Re: David Brinkley's closing remarks on election night.
>
> Senile?
> Drunk?
> Disoriented?
> Trance channeling?

Totally true and accurate!

Sevigny

-=JR=-

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In article <560c7e$1...@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, gri...@primenet.com says...

>
>jg...@cde.psu.edu (John Bell) writes:
>
>>I love brinkley, but given the landslide in progress, I had a couple of
>>drinks and watched a movie tuesday. What in dog's name did the man say?
>
>I watched election coverage, but our ABC affiliate decided to cut away
>from the network feed way too early in the evening, so I missed Brinkley,
>too. What did he say?

Something about how boring Bill Clinton is.

Nothing that isn't the truth.


Dan J.

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Julie Brumley <ja...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
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No, that's not it.
Dan


Russ Tamblen

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My local ABC statiion cut away from Bill Clinton's victory speech
about ten minutes into it, did a bunch of spots and local returns,
chatted about local races, cut back to ABC, and there was Clinton
still talking just as he overdid it on the 1988 keynote speech, when
noone had ever heard of him. I think that means ABC ran the whole
thing (27 minutes) out of deference to the fact that he (clinton) is
President and this is his victory speech.
That must have really pissed some people off at the network, among
them David Brinkley. There's that and the little surprise series of
career-ending tributes to Brinkley that broke out among the
assembled talking heads. The papers said Brinkley can't stand
that sort of thing. After Jeff Greenfield said something nice about
him, Brinkley attacked him personally about brevity, as the Greenfield
thing had gone on some. David said I can't say a God Damn thing
to end his Greenfield lecture. That's a little shocking from our
David Brinkley, but not as shocking as the afternoon when I heard the
late John Chancellor say bullshit on Cspan.

Russ

ItsMe!

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>
> Laura Bryannan (la...@isp.nwu.edu) writes:
> > In article <328339...@thegnomes.cns.vt.edu>, Robert Larry Morris
> > <theg...@thegnomes.cns.vt.edu> wrote:
> >>mamb...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>

> >>> Re: David Brinkley's closing remarks on election night.
> >>> Senile?
> >>> Drunk?
> >>> Disoriented?
> >>> Trance channeling?
> >>

What do you expect? He and Bob Dole are about the same age
aren't they? Ha! Ha!


Dan Cutrer

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In article <55vfuq$o...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
cc...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA says...

>> Re: David Brinkley's closing remarks on election night.
>> Senile?
>> Drunk?
>> Disoriented?
>> Trance channeling?

>He's 76 and, as he said, he's leaving the business. Maybe it was one or


>more of the above, maybe he just wanted to say what he really thought.

Can't find any indication that anyone has noted Brinkley is BobDole's
next-door-neighbor in Bal Harbour, Florida ... just down the hall from Bob
Strauss of the Democrats, a condo BobDole bought with help from Chairman
of Archer-Daniels-Midland, who also has a place there.

Watching Brinkley and BobDole last Sunday; it was obvious that they were
comfortable with each other, two men of approximately the same age and time
in Washington, who had "chatted" with each other many times previous.

My take on what we saw is Brinkley realizing this WAS his last prime-time
exposure as a pundit; I recall the tears Chet Huntley shed on his last NBC
News broadcast ... Brinkley was merely lamenting that history has made much
of FDR, Truman, Ike, JFK, LBJ ... the Clinton years are still unfolding, and
;there's no opportunity for perspective yet ... although Brinkley may be of the
opinion that WJC is not going to be remembered as fondly as FDR, etc.

And, there ARE persistent rumors around ABC (and elsewhere) that
Brinkley's "retirement" was not entirely of his own making ... NBC is now
taking that time period, and Brinkley lost a few steps following lung surgery.

He's also a man known to harbor a grudge or two; I recall him telling a friend
at ABC "It was a damn crime that I had to leave NBC after all those years
and come over here. They just didn't want me anymore."

Now ... if you want a GREAT Peter Jennings story, ask an ABC veteran
about the time in the late 60's when Jennings was on his first tour as ABC
News Anchorman, while in his mid-20's. Somewhere around here I have the
blooper tape ... Jennings looks seriously into the camera ... "A South
Vietnamese Army convoy was ambushed in the jungles near the tiny hamlet of
Fuck Doo. Reports from Saigon .... no no no, that should be Duck Foo."

pre...@starnetinc.com

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> Senile?
> Drunk?
> Disoriented?
> Trance channeling?


Its almost as if he chose that moment to make up for thirty years of
towing the company line. I just wish they would have let him go on.
Fifteen more minutes of that and we would have known who shot Kennedy,
whats hidden at Area 51, and where they buried Hoffa.

Bill Slattery

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mamb...@aol.com wrote:
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>
> Re: David Brinkley's closing remarks on election night.
>
> Senile?
> Drunk?
> Disoriented?
> Trance channeling?

He momentarily forgot himself and said what was on his mind. And good
for him.

Bill Slattery

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I didn't know about him and Cher but I hope it's true.

I think his remarks brought great credit upon him but none to the
network except in a marginal sort of way. They didn't cut him off.

Bill Slattery

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Dan Cutrer wrote:
>
> In article <55vfuq$o...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
> cc...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA says...
>ws Anchorman, while in his mid-20's. Somewhere around here I have the
> blooper tape ... Jennings looks seriously into the camera ... "A South
> Vietnamese Army convoy was ambushed in the jungles near the tiny hamlet of
> Fuck Doo. Reports from Saigon .... no no no, that should be Duck Foo."

Nice post. Sounds like you're in the business.

David Migicovsky

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Terry Hicks <T.-and-...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<3283AF...@worldnet.att.net>...

>
> Personally, I think it was probably a calculated attempt to end his
> career in a memorable fashion. If so, it certainly succeeded -- but
> not in a way that did him or his network any credit.
>

Did anyone ever actually post what he said or did? If so, I'll search it
out, but if not, I'd really appreciate a summary.

>
> P.S. Bringing this around to showbiz gossip, so that Patricia won't
> yell at me -- anybody else see how obvious it is that he and Chet were
> longtime lovers?
>

May I be the first to say "eeeeew?"

David, who always thinks it is polite to ask permission before puking.
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Conradin

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David Migicovsky <dmig...@interlog.com.is.not.my.address.see.sig> said

Did anyone ever actually post what he said or did? If so, I'll search it
out, but if not, I'd really appreciate a summary.


The Mad Prophet of the Airwaves spake thus, according to Frank Warner:

From: Frank Warner <waki...@postoffice.ptd.net>
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 09:45:11 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: David Brinkley Controversy?

phoe...@aol.com wrote:

> Last night while commuting zombie-like to my home from work, I caught the
> tail-end of a radio show in which the topic was David Brinkley. I didn't
> hear the whole thing, but apparently David Brinkley made some searing,
> nasty comments (including the usage of naughty words) during ABC's
> Election Night coverage. Does anyone else out there know anything about
> this? I've been searching all over for the details.

David Brinkley comments on ABC's election night TV coverage:



First comment: <As they come back from a commercial>

Jennings: Well why don't we let Jeff Greenfield have a go at it
first?

Brinkley: No, let me have a go at it first.

<a few chuckles from the panel, short pause>

<Brinkley and Greenfield start talking at the same time, then stop.>

Jennings: Go ahead, David.

Brinkley: I wish to say that we all look forward with great
pleasure to four years of wonderful, inspiring speeches,
full of wit, poetry, music, love, and affection -- plus more
God-damned nonsense than..."

<The last word or two of Brinkley's statement is drowned out by
nervous laughter from the rest of the panel>

Jennings: You can't say that on the air, Mr. Brinkley!

Brinkley: But I'm not on the air! <pause> I was amused to read
that Ross Perot...

Jennings: David, just let me [garbled], we are on the air. I just
want you to make sure...

Brinkley: [chuckling] Too bad. Too bad -- I told you I was leaving
[garbled].

<His last line was delivered in an amused "so what are they going
to do, fire me?" tone of voice>

Second comment, much later in the program:

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From the SF Chronicle:

By John Carman

"Say Good Night, David. And Please Don't Bite Us."

David Brinkley, loose cannon. He's 76 years old, he's mad as hell and he's
not going to take it anymore.

He's H.L. Mencken incarnate. He's Andy Rooney on stomach acid.He's Bob
Dole's crankier older brother. He's the crotchety avenger of the airwaves.

Who was to know? Through all those recent conventions and election nights,
Brinkley sat sphinxlike beside Peter Jennings, looking as if he had
something pithy on his mind but you'd have to squeeze him from three sides
to get him to say it.

But all that time he was roiling with profane rage at a world full of
whippersnappers, phonies, bureaucratic butt-kissers and greasy politicians
with echo-chamber craniums.

It took just the right prompt to set him off. Jeff Greenfield stumbled
onto it Tuesday night. You want to light up David Brinkley? Suck up to him
in public.

Greenfield said, at length, that he was a babe in swaddling clothes when
he first peered through his thick glasses and watched Brinkley invent
political coverage on TV.

Bite me, Brinkley replied, or words to that effect. And by the time
election night was over, they couldn't have stopped Brinkley if they'd
jammed a cork in his mouth.

Clinton's a twit. Lord help us all if we have to to endure four more years
of this nonsense. He's a %&$#@ bore and always will be.

They're fools at ABC if they let Brinkley slip away now into
semi-retirement. They've got white heat, lightning in a bottle, ratings
shooting up like Roman candles if they play this right.

Coming to the network next month "World News Tonight" anchored by Peter
Jennings, with cranky commentary by David Brinkley.

Jennings: And that's our news for tonight. Now, from Washington, with
tonight's angry homily, is David Brinkley -- saint, sage, beloved mad
prophet of the airwaves.

Brinkley: Cork it, Petey boy. You gave me the %&$#@ willies the first time
I saw you. You give me the willies now. You will always give me the
willies.

Russ Tamblen

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pre...@starnetinc.com wrote:

>> Senile?
>> Drunk?
>> Disoriented?
>> Trance channeling?

>Its almost as if he chose that moment to make up for thirty years of
>towing the company line. I just wish they would have let him go on.
>Fifteen more minutes of that and we would have known who shot Kennedy,
>whats hidden at Area 51, and where they buried Hoffa.

Not to mention the secret meaning of "Whats the Frequency, Kenneth?"
and how much he, Cokie, Sam and Cokie's husband Steve have pulled
down in $30,000 a crack speeches to private industry, in the past five
years.

Russ


Russ Tamblen

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can...@onramp.net (Dan Cutrer) wrote:

>In article <01bbce7e$50a08980$0100007f@david-s-pc>,
>dmig...@interlog.com.is.not.my.address.see.sig says...

>>> Personally, I think it was probably a calculated attempt to end his
>>> career in a memorable fashion. If so, it certainly succeeded -- but
>>> not in a way that did him or his network any credit.

>>> P.S. Bringing this around to showbiz gossip, so that Patricia won't

>>> yell at me -- anybody else see how obvious it is that he and Chet were
>>> longtime lovers?


>Not in the Least! Brinkley was in Washington, Huntley in NYC ... they only
>saw each other at events they were "working", Brinkley thought of himself as
>a journalist/writer, Huntley had a reputation of doing anything for money, e.g.,
> narrate films, take on public relations projects for commercial clients, more of
>a "news reader" than a journalist or broadcaster.

>I was working in broadcast news in the early 70's, one slow and lazy Sunday
>afternoon, nature called, I walked down the hall into the Men's Room ...
>and, a short second later realized the Tall Man standing next to me was Chet
>Huntley. As Molly Ivins put it, "It's kinda like opening the refrigerator door,
> and finding Fidel Castro in there, smoking on a cigar!"

>No, under the circumstances I DIDN'T introduce myself! <g>

Chet wasn't even a newsman to begin with. He was Dizzy Dean's
color man, as if he needed one, on the St. Louis Cardinal baseball
broadcasts of KMOX radio in St. Louis. Chet played himself opposite
cross-dresser Dan Dailey, who was cast as Diz in Pride of St. Louis
(1952). At one point in the film, Diz has received a series of
letters from St. Louis schoolteachers complaining that he is setting
a poor example for St. Louis schoolchildren, by mangling his grammar
announcing the game. Diz (Dailey) is in the broadcast booth reading
the letter on the air, when he breaks out crying and says he will quit
broadcasting, if that is the result! He walks out of the booth, and
Huntley, in his only scene in the film, has this line as he stands up
and calls after him, " Diz,..,Diz...," Four years later, Huntley was
1/2 of the NBC convention team, "Goodnight Chet, Goodnight David" was
right around the corner, and the rest is history. Huntley must have
cringed every time "Pride of St. Louis" played on television. I break
out laughing every time I see the scene.

Then, of course you'll want to hear about those bad old days when
Sam Donaldson was the smooth-voiced DJ on WTOP, Washington,
who handled the American Airlines allnight show! But that will have
to be another time.

Russ

Bill Slattery

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R
> >Its almost as if he chose that moment to make up for thirty years of
> >towing the company line. I just wish they would have let him go on.
> >Fifteen more minutes of that and we would have known who shot Kennedy,
> >whats hidden at Area 51, and where they buried Hoffa.
>Towing the company line is almost as funny as much adieu about nothing which I saw a couple of weeks ago.

Russ Tamblen

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>My take on what we saw is Brinkley realizing this WAS his last prime-time
>exposure as a pundit; I recall the tears Chet Huntley shed on his last NBC
>News broadcast ... Brinkley was merely lamenting that history has made much
>of FDR, Truman, Ike, JFK, LBJ ... the Clinton years are still unfolding, and
>;there's no opportunity for perspective yet ... although Brinkley may be of the
>opinion that WJC is not going to be remembered as fondly as FDR, etc.

>And, there ARE persistent rumors around ABC (and elsewhere) that
>Brinkley's "retirement" was not entirely of his own making ... NBC is now
>taking that time period, and Brinkley lost a few steps following lung surgery.

>He's also a man known to harbor a grudge or two; I recall him telling a friend
>at ABC "It was a damn crime that I had to leave NBC after all those years
>and come over here. They just didn't want me anymore."

Are you saying Tim Russert's Meet The Press is beating David Brinkley?
The programs don't actually occupy the same time slot, but their
ratings are compared. Brinkley was certainly unhappy at William
Small, former NBC news executive, who was pushing Brinkley around
at NBC before he felt obliged to quit. NBC was in turmoil in those
days as its fortunes were ebbing in the last years before it was sold
to GE. I think Brinkley is being pushed off the show, too. The man
is crotchety and abrupt in private life. I heard him interviewed on
public radio's Fresh Air Friday, and he was not getting along well
with a hostess who gets along well with everybody!

Russ

David Migicovsky

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Russ Tamblen <rt...@earthlink.com> wrote in article
<5645kq$i...@news.ld.centuryinter.net>...

Just like to point out that while "Russ Tamblen," who pretends to post from
earthlink.com but really posts from centuryinter.net, has kept my name in
this post of his usual inane ramblings, but in fact he has trimmed every
single word I wrote.

bo...@ctymx.com

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eve...@aol.com wrote:

>From the SF Chronicle:

>By John Carman

>"Say Good Night, David. And Please Don't Bite Us."

>David Brinkley, loose cannon. He's 76 years old, he's mad as hell and he's
>not going to take it anymore.

Yikes! What's going on? A reporter who calls it as it is? Nah....
Not when he speaks against a democrat. Couldn't be. But, Mr.
Brinkley wasn't temporarily insane or inane. He spoke the truth as he
saw it. (and captured the thoughts of many...too bad Bill was running
unopposed).

Anyhow, anyone know where one can download a wav file of those
comments?


Dan Cutrer

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In article <563iob$7...@news.ld.centuryinter.net>, rt...@earthlink.com says...

>>Its almost as if he chose that moment to make up for thirty years of
>>towing the company line. I just wish they would have let him go on.
>>Fifteen more minutes of that and we would have known who shot Kennedy,
>>whats hidden at Area 51, and where they buried Hoffa.
>

>Not to mention the secret meaning of "Whats the Frequency, Kenneth?"

That one's easy ... Rather was/is kinda well known for ... uh ... his involvement
with females significantly younger than him ... as someone on Slate noted a
week or so ago in an article about commercial tv anchorfolk, P. Jennings has
that randy look in his eyes that makes you wonder if he's after your wife,
Brokaw has that speech impediment, and Rather is "famously nuts."

The "what's the frequency" episode was a message to Rather from a Very
Serious Man delivered by several hench-men ... to leave his (the VSM's)
girlfriend alone ...

"What's the Frequency" was Rather's spur of the moment explanation ...

If Dan sees this, doubt he'll buy me a drink at the Lakeway Christmas Party ...
he's just built a new home there, west of Austin, Texas ... neighbors mumbling
'bout them trashy old news people moving in ... lowering property values ...

NBlomgren

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On Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:55:44 GMT, bo...@ctymx.com wrote:

-------->trimmed


>Anyhow, anyone know where one can download a wav file of those
>comments?
>

alt.binaries.sounds.tv

Brinkly1.wav and Brinkly2.wav have the best quality.
brink1.wav and brink2.wav are a little muddy.

--nb

chelsea corazon

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In article <563kr2$8...@news.ld.centuryinter.net>,

Oh! You must mean the ultra-chirrupy Terri Gross. I don't really care about
myself, I'm used to thumbing the highways and the byways like ol' Woody, but
would you guys puh-LEEZE give this man a space in the Trailer Park???? He has
more than earned it!...and David Brinkley's earned the right to be his
crochety old self, (caught him on Rose's show looking as cool as a 3000 year
old Sphinx.)
~Chelsea Corazon~

Gael McGear Sweeney

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In article <55vj2s$r...@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>
jay...@ix.netcom.com (John McDonnell ) writes:

> On Charlie Rose last night, he was back to the edited versions of his
> opinions, calling Clinton "a skilled politician", and "good at what he
> does", when Rose asked him "What do you think of Clinton?" With
> Brinkley, you have to read between the lines. If all he can say about
> a President after four years is that he's "a skilled politician", it's
> a pretty weak endorsement.
>
> I'll miss Brinkley. He could say more with a raised eyebrow than
> pundits like John McLaughlin could say in a half-hour of bombastic
> pontificating.
>

Yes, but Big Bill showed who the Bull Moose of Washington REALLY is --
and in the long run the news guys and gals know it: he had Brinkley
apologizing like a whipped pup Sunday morning. They are all sycophants
at heart -- what they believe means nothing -- Brinkley included -- if
they can get the Big Dog to wet on their shoes!


Gael

ASGTRP #55

gswe...@syr.edu
http://users.aol.com/gaelmcgear/gaelpage.html

"If there is a light at the end of the tunnel, it's the light of an
oncoming train."
Robert Lowell

Alan Gore

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mamb...@aol.com wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes

>Re: David Brinkley's closing remarks on election night.

>Senile?
>Drunk?
>Disoriented?
>Trance channeling?

I took it as the first sign the wheels are coming off the liberal
media machine...

ag...@primenet.com | "Giving money and power to the government
Alan Gore | is like giving whiskey and car keys
Software For PC's | to teenaged boys" - P. J. O'Rourke
http://www.primenet.com/~agore


ka...@delphi.com

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Stephen Gilliard <gill...@interport.net> writes:

>The thing to remember is that Clinton came on the show and handled it
>with grace. Even shook his hand.
>
>Which is more grace than Brinkley showed on Election Night.

.
And what was his alternative? Cancel the scheduled interview, allowing
everyone to say that he snubbed an old man at the end of a very
illustrious career, and prompting news organizations all over the country
to run those very same clips a few more hundred times? Nahhh - neither one
of them wanted to do that interview, but they both sucked it up and went
through with it.
.
kassa (was I the only one who thought Brinkley was saying boor? In
all the papers I saw it was written "bore". ??)

lilc...@aol.com

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gswe...@syr.edu (Gael McGear Sweeney)

>Yes, but Big Bill showed who the Bull Moose of Washington REALLY is --
>and in the long run the news guys and gals know it: he had Brinkley
>apologizing like a whipped pup Sunday morning. They are all sycophants
>at heart -- what they believe means nothing -- Brinkley included -- if
>they can get the Big Dog to wet on their shoes!

I took it to mean that he was apologizing for actually saying it on the
air, but that he wasn't rescinding his original thoughts -- kind of like
"Yes, I stand by what I said, but I shouldn't have said it on the air."

"I wish to say that we all look forward with great pleasure to four years of wonderful, inspiring speeches, full of wit, poetry, music, love and affection, plus more goddamn nonsense." -- David Brinkley, 11/6/96, remarking on the re-election of the Clintons

lilc...@aol.com

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>kassa (was I the only one who thought Brinkley was saying boor? In
>all the papers I saw it was written "bore". ??)

Considering that just before he said bore/boor, he remarked that Clinton
doesn't have a creative bone in his body, I took it to mean "bore."

Elizabeth McCracken

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ka...@delphi.com writes:

>.


>kassa (was I the only one who thought Brinkley was saying boor? In
>all the papers I saw it was written "bore". ??)

Absolutely--and doesn't it seem worse to call the president
a boor than a bore? I was surprised when I saw it transcribed.

Eliz McC
(whose brush with fame of the week was meeting Calvin and Alice
Trillin--a real thrill, with no gossip.)
--
Elizabeth McCracken
mccr...@world.std.com

Ginny

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ka...@delphi.com wrote:

>kassa (was I the only one who thought Brinkley was saying boor? In
>all the papers I saw it was written "bore". ??)

No, that's what I thought too.

Ginny

Life is Uncertain, Eat Dessert First!


Dan Cutrer

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In article <hzEWQE...@delphi.com>, ka...@delphi.com says...

>Stephen Gilliard <gill...@interport.net> writes:
>>The thing to remember is that Clinton came on the show and handled it
>>with grace. Even shook his hand.
>>Which is more grace than Brinkley showed on Election Night.
>.
>And what was his alternative? Cancel the scheduled interview, allowing
>everyone to say that he snubbed an old man at the end of a very
>illustrious career, and prompting news organizations all over the country
>to run those very same clips a few more hundred times? Nahhh - neither one
>of them wanted to do that interview, but they both sucked it up and went
>through with it.


And that's the mark of a True Professional ... whether in broadcasting or
politics or show business. No matter how tired you are, how bad you feel,
how screwed up your personal life might be, you ALWAYS show up and give
'em a good show.

Your post says loads about how politics IS show business these days; the
days when George McGovern could put his arm around a heckler's neck, pull
him kinda close, tell him to "Kiss my ass!" ... which is exactly what he did in
'72 ... are over forever.

Brinkley and Clinton showed more "class"; while Senator McGovern
undoubtedly enjoyed his reort more!

And, for those who actually remember the Senator ... I deny again that I had
anything to do with that news report that officials in his home state of South
Dakota were considering putting his image on Mt. Rushmore, but hadn't yet
found a sculptor who could comb the rock forward ... over his forehead. <g>


J. M. Ross

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>Stephen Gilliard <gill...@interport.net> writes:
>
>>The thing to remember is that Clinton came on the show and handled it
>>with grace. Even shook his hand.
>>
>>Which is more grace than Brinkley showed on Election Night.
>
>.
>And what was his alternative? Cancel the scheduled interview, allowing
>everyone to say that he snubbed an old man at the end of a very
>illustrious career, and prompting news organizations all over the country
>to run those very same clips a few more hundred times? Nahhh - neither one
>of them wanted to do that interview, but they both sucked it up and went
>through with it.

>.


>kassa (was I the only one who thought Brinkley was saying boor? In
>all the papers I saw it was written "bore". ??)

I thought it was "boor" also. Bore just makes is boring...

John McDonnell

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I think they should bring Brinkley out of semi-retirement now, while
so many people are applauding what he said, and give him carte-blanche
to tell the truth on t.v. It would certainly be a first, to hear a
commentator say what he really thinks about a politician. Imagine:
"Folks, that speech you just heard was the most pompous, self-inflated
piece of tripe I have heard in all my years of broadcasting. If the
American public falls for these empty promises again they ought to be
shot."

How refreshing that would be!


--
John McDonnell
Researcher's Toolkit http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/6100


Samantha Franklin

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mamb...@aol.com wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes

>Re: David Brinkley's closing remarks on election night.

>Senile?
>Drunk?
>Disoriented?
>Trance channeling?

I could have listened to him all night, and still have begged for
more.


interloper

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John McDonnell wrote:
>
> I think they should bring Brinkley out of semi-retirement now, while
> so many people are applauding what he said, and give him carte-blanche
> to tell the truth on t.v. It would certainly be a first, to hear a
> commentator say what he really thinks about a politician. Imagine:
> "Folks, that speech you just heard was the most pompous, self-inflated
> piece of tripe I have heard in all my years of broadcasting. If the
> American public falls for these empty promises again they ought to be
> shot."
>
> How refreshing that would be!


I agree.

I'd even supply the first 100 bullets.

.

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