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Janloves

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Mar 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/19/99
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First of all, Stella is his daughter no? Does anyone have any idea what it
said on her shirt at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremonies? Must
have been bad if they blurred it on cable...Sorry, I love Paul McCartney, but
that was classless on her part imo.
Jan

JosieCat

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Mar 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/19/99
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It said: "ABOUT F**KING TIME"


Janloves

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Mar 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/19/99
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>Subject: RE:Paul McCartney's Daughters' shirt....
>From: josi...@aol.com (JosieCat)
>Date: 3/19/99 11:28 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <19990319112825...@ng-cg1.aol.com>
Thank you for responding. True, but still classless imo.
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Christine

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Mar 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/20/99
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All it said was: About Fucking Time. Paul was eligible in 1995.

Janloves

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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>Subject: Re: Paul McCartney's Daughters' shirt....
>From: Christine <chri...@ix.netcom.com>
>Date: 3/20/99 1:38 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <36F3424B...@ix.netcom.com>
Oh, that's all...I just wish to make one more comment about this, becauseI
have received several mails telling me *I* should reconsider *my* opinion
about his daughter acting classless for wearing that shirt, because they are
*artists*, and that is just how they are....

Why should I reconsider my opinion? I too have the right to express
myself, and since some are of that point of view, they should be able to deal
with it, just as I can understand their opinions, and would not even suggest
they think about changing their point of view, even though I don't agree. If
it had been me, I could have thought of a way to express my feelings without
using profanity. That's all. Obviously the cable station carrying the event saw
fit to blur it out. Please don't preach to me saying I don't have the right to
express my opinion, but courtesy for those watching, like my SEVEN year old
son, ( the event was broadcast in the afternoon), goes out the window, just
because they are *artists*. I'm glad they blurred it out, because my son is an
excellent reader...If they want to teach their children to be classless and
disrespectful of others, go to it...I happen to be an author, which I believe
classifies me as an artist, and I don't use that sort of language. I never
stated she didn't have the right to express her "joy", I just thought her
manner of doing it was classless, considering the diverse audience watching,
NOT just those *artists* in the room who probably didn't even flinch.....I
stand by my opinion. I noticed John Lennon's son in the audience supporting
him. I bet if he had the chance, he would give that statue back, if it meant
having his father back. I know I would. I know it is important to those artists
involved, and they wish to express that fervently, but please, a little
perspective...


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MLYoung

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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>Oh, that's all...I just wish to make one more comment about this, becauseI
>have received several mails telling me *I* should reconsider *my* opinion
>about his daughter acting classless for wearing that shirt, because they are
>*artists*, and that is just how they are....

I don't think it's got as much to do with
Stella being an artist as it is her still being
in mourning. There's a lot of anger
in the grieving process and, in this case,
this was a bit of it misdirected.

--margaret

Janloves

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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>Subject: Re: Paul McCartney's Daughters' shirt....
>From: mly...@aol.com (MLYoung)
>Date: 3/21/99 3:36 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <19990321153624...@ng-fx1.aol.com>

>
>>Oh, that's all...I just wish to make one more comment about this, becauseI
>>have received several mails telling me *I* should reconsider *my* opinion
>>about his daughter acting classless for wearing that shirt, because they are
>>*artists*, and that is just how they are....
>
>I don't think it's got as much to do with
>Stella being an artist as it is her still being
>in mourning. There's a lot of anger
>in the grieving process and, in this case,
>this was a bit of it misdirected.
>
>--margaret
>>

Yes well, I can understand she is still in mourning, I lost my mom too, and I
was only seventeen. I too was angry, but at God. Until I realized it wasn't his
fault, nor mine. It just happened. And my mom also had breast cancer. I still
didn't walk around taking it out on the world.

Jamie

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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Janloves wrote:
> Please don't preach to me saying I don't have the right to
> express my opinion, but courtesy for those watching, like my SEVEN year old
> son, ( the event was broadcast in the afternoon), goes out the window, just
> because they are *artists*. I'm glad they blurred it out, because my son is an
> excellent reader...If they want to teach their children to be classless and
> disrespectful of others, go to it...

Most people would not consider a cuss word "classless" and "disrespectful."
However, I personally sure do consider it tasteless and disrespectful
to accuse Paul McCartney of not being a good parent simply because his
nearly-30 year old daughter chose to wear a tee shirt that expressed
her personal opinion.
BTW, if you're so worried about the effect cuss words have on your
7-year-old son, why are you letting him watch a program about *rock stars* on
*cable*?


--
~Jamie

MLYoung

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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>>
>>>Oh, that's all...I just wish to make one more comment about this, becauseI
>>>have received several mails telling me *I* should reconsider *my* opinion
>>>about his daughter acting classless for wearing that shirt, because they
>are
>>>*artists*, and that is just how they are....
>>
>>I don't think it's got as much to do with
>>Stella being an artist as it is her still being
>>in mourning. There's a lot of anger
>>in the grieving process and, in this case,
>>this was a bit of it misdirected.
>>
>>--margaret
>>>
>
> Yes well, I can understand she is still in mourning, I lost my mom too, and
>I
>was only seventeen. I too was angry, but at God. Until I realized it wasn't
>his
>fault, nor mine. It just happened. And my mom also had breast cancer. I
>still
>didn't walk around taking it out on the world.

Maybe not. I'm not saying what Stella
McCartney did was right, just that it
probably had to do with her grief. I
expect she was bitter that her mother wasn't
there to see it. People have different
ways of coping with that kind of loss.

--margaret

Janloves

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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>Subject: Re: Paul McCartney's Daughters' shirt....
>From: Jamie <ang...@ivnet.com>
>Date: 3/21/99 8:55 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <36F5A3...@ivnet.com>
It is on National television IMO. Where did you read me accusing Paul
McCartney of being a bad parent? And my son LOVES music, and he likes Billy
Joel, which is why he was watching the show. Why don't you ask why it was
broadcast at TWELVE NOON by the station. I have, and got no answer. Why should
I have to be afraid of letting my child watch a Rock and Roll Hall of fame
induction ceremony? I didn't hear anyone else use obscene language. I don't use
it, he has leanred it is disrespectful, and you haven't a clue as to what I was
trying to convey, just wanted to insult me because you are pissed I said
anything against Paul McCartney's daughter. Too bad.

Janloves

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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>Subject: Re: Paul McCartney's Daughters' shirt....
>From: dulc...@X.exit109.com (Dulcinea West)
>Date: 3/22/99 3:21 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <7d68nl$8on$1...@news1.exit109.com>
>
>Janloves <janl...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Why should I reconsider my opinion? I too have the right to express
>>myself,
>
>...
>
>Sure, it's just that no one's as interested in what you think as they
>are in what a famed ex-Beatle or his daughter thinks.
>
>Did anyone ever say you didn't "have a right"? Sure ya do, doesn't mean
>we have to care.
>
>Dulcinea


Then don't respond. Or is that too much for your brain to logically
process?


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kimberly

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Mar 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/24/99
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>On 23 Mar 1999 15:54:47 GMT, janl...@aol.com (Janloves) wrote:
>
>
> Then don't respond. Or is that too much for your brain to logically
>process?
>
>

Are you always this full of sunshine, or are we just lucky 'round
these parts?

--kimberly
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Janloves

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Mar 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/24/99
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>Subject: Re: Paul McCartney's Daughters' shirt....
>From: kim...@mindspring.com (kimberly)
>Date: 3/24/99 1:17 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <37022c08....@news.mindspring.com>
I'm usually much nicer. I just believe, if you dish it out, you should be
able to take getting it back.

kimberly

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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On 24 Mar 1999 18:40:32 GMT, janl...@aol.com (Janloves) wrote:

>>From: kim...@mindspring.com (kimberly)
>>
>>>On 23 Mar 1999 15:54:47 GMT, janl...@aol.com (Janloves) wrote:
>>>
>>> Then don't respond. Or is that too much for your brain to logically
>>>process?
>>
>>Are you always this full of sunshine, or are we just lucky 'round
>>these parts?
>>
>>

> I'm usually much nicer. I just believe, if you dish it out, you should be
>able to take getting it back.
>

Well, leaving others to continue discussing the content of your posts,
I have to wonder if maybe they mightn't be a bit more well received if
they didn't sound like one big whine?

There are many intelligent, knowledgeable folks around this group, but
if one were to judge them based solely on your responses, one could
easily get the impression you are always right and they are nothing
but doodyheads who have the unmitigated gall not to accept every word
you utter as gospel. However, as there are intelligent, etc., people
around here, I don't think there's much chance of that happening.

Janloves

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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>Subject: Re: Paul McCartney's Daughters' shirt....
>From: kim...@mindspring.com (kimberly)
>Date: 3/24/99 7:24 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <36fd7f16...@news.mindspring.com>
Well, I don't understand why people get that impression. I just state my
opinion on topics, and I try to stay ON topic. I don't get personal unless
someone does with me. Even then, I try to be a "nice" as I can....I certainly
have seen much worse in my reading of posts here. If you get the impression I
am saying I am always right, that is not so. I am passionate about my opinions,
uninformed as they might be to some<g>, but I never try to shove them down
people's throats, or deride others because they don't agree with me. I
apologize if that is the impression you got, it wasn't intended that way. I
would think if a person is truly intelligent, they can think of ways to discuss
opinions without insulting others. Maybe I'm wrong-again. C'est la vie.

Terence P Higgins

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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From article <19990324194658...@ng43.aol.com>, by janl...@aol.com (Janloves):

>Maybe I'm wrong-again. C'est la vie.


No, you're not wrong-again, just...well, never mind.
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