Thomas Kinkade, Painter of Light?
Fiona McQuarrie
"how
to live your life happily" type book. His book says that he has a wife and
kids, but the picture of him sets off my gaydar big time (not to mention
his cutesy paintings).
Anyone know more about him?
Cheers, Fiona
f.5
Fiona McQuarrie wrote in message <93dlc2$8ng$2...@morgoth.sfu.ca>...
Ugh, I don't have any info about the guy. I just wish he'd stop painting.
His stuff is schlock!
Right up there with the big puppy eyes guy.
EatWelBWel
But I, for one, would love to live in one of his cottages in one of his towns.
Sandra in PA
MLYoung
I do! I do! (waving hand--sorry, it's just
that I never know any good gossip. I
don't here, either, but I do know something
about him.)
Anyway, he lives in the Bay Area around
Saratoga. He's worth a mint and is
very, very Christian. He withdrew his
kids from a local Episcopalian school
because the school wasn't religious
and conservative enough. Kids are now
being home-schooled. He's basically
a real jerk surrounded by puffy clouds
of self-righteous piety. If he's gay, he's
well in the closet.
--margaret
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"f.5" wrote:
> His stuff is schlock!
Right up there with the kitties-in-baskets crap they put in calendars. Thomas
Kinkade, the self-titled (and trademarked) "Painter of Light", paints shit that
should be direct-to-checkbook-covers.
--Amy
Annie RUtahkn2Me
Oh Sandra, me too.
I know everyone says his paintings are crap, but I love them. The cottages and
the villages are the kind I wanted to live in as a dreamy child.
Now, as a grown woman, I still want to live in them!
Sandra, what's wrong with us! ;-)
Annie RU
Peep...@webtv.net
<20010109042632...@ng-fu1.aol.com> :
>
>>You are right! Most serious artists and collectors think his stuff IS
>>schlock.
Although I believe he's the most collected artist in the US right now.
>>But I, for one, would love to live in one of his cottages in one of
his
>>towns.
>>
>>Sandra in PA
>>
>
>Oh Sandra, me too.
>
>I know everyone says his paintings are crap, but I love them. The
cottages and
>the villages are the kind I wanted to live in as a dreamy child.
>
>Now, as a grown woman, I still want to live in them!
>
>Sandra, what's wrong with us! ;-)
J'agree aussi. While I don't consider TK's opus to be great art by
*any* stretch of the imagination I'll take *it* over those
elephant-dung-on-the-Virgin-Mary "shock" pieces any ol'
day..............:-)
Hugs,
Janice, who always has a flashback to TK's lovingly-painted Water Tower
whenever I see it in person in Chicago.
--
GO Green!! GO, Ralph!!
http://www.votenader.com/
(-)> *peep* (-)> *peep* (-)> *muckmouth*
Nell
want
to). No matter how jaded we become, there's something in us that longs for
something that never was but we feel should have been. I want one of those
cottages, too.;-)
Nell
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Carlotta
>>>>schlock.
Can't argue with that, although it's popular schlock. There were a very few
of his paintings I saw once (at my only visit to a TK store) that were not the
standard stuff. These were pictures done in a much more impressionist style
that few people would have thought of as a TK painting. Actually wouldn't have
minded shelling out money (just not that much!) for his painting of a grape
arbor in northern California.
Carlotta
"As you simplify your life, the laws of the universe will be simpler; solitude
will not be solitude, poverty will not be poverty, nor weakness weakness."
H.D. Thoreau
Mary Campbell
Only that his "art" isn't his own work, it's done by assembly line. Ads
for his prints openly admit this. His Master Edition numbered
lithographs are "hand-highlighted by the artist himself over the
foundation of apprentice highlighting". In other words, some anonymous
employee paints the picture and Kinkade adds a few brush strokes and his
signature.
Annie RUtahkn2Me
I've seen Kinkade on QVC or Home Shopping Network several times.
He's very open about how his work is done. I think he's even shown a tour of
his workrooms.
I love Kinkade's work, but I can't stand the Keane big-eyed paintings. And,
don't get me started on anything from the Precious Moments line of figurines.
I hate them. Go figure...
Annie RU
Elayne Riggs
>> Anyone know more about him?
> Only that his "art" isn't his own work, it's done by assembly line. Ads
> for his prints openly admit this. His Master Edition numbered
> lithographs are "hand-highlighted by the artist himself over the
> foundation of apprentice highlighting". In other words, some anonymous
> employee paints the picture and Kinkade adds a few brush strokes and his
> signature.
Wow, I thought that only happened in comics. :)
- Elayne
David Sewell
Donna Whitman <dwhi...@NOSPAM.ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Whatever is wrong with you is wrong with me too. His work makes me
>wish I could retire to one of his cottages and live a quiet, country
>life. One man (or woman's) shlock is another man's beauty.
Hmm. I don't suppose those cottages have electricity. And the quaint New
Englandish settings suggest you'll have a long wood-heating season.
Handy with a chainsaw and a splitting maul? Oh, I suppose you could
preserve the quiet by sticking to an axe and a bowsaw, but it's a good
thing you'll be retired, because you'll be spending about half of each
day chopping and sawing. You probably won't want to fill the cottage
with too many Kinkade paintings because it will be too dark to see them
very well, with the small window area your cottage will have to conserve
heat. Those candles in the windows are pretty at night, but you need
roughly 30 candlepower to give the light equivalent of a fifty-watt
electric bulb, so you'd better have a lot of candles on hand. Of course,
you could get one of those Amish mantle lamps that puts out 140
candlepower on pressurized Coleman fuel, but either way, be be sure to
keep up your fire insurance payments! (Speaking of which, when's the
last time you cleaned out your stove flues and chimneys? Got any idea
how much creosote buildup they've accumulated?)
And are you going with an outhouse or a composting toilet? Don't know if
the latter would fit in with the rusticity . . . better stick with the
outhouse, just check for black widow spiders under the seat. Not so much
of a problem in winter, but then you'll mostly be using the chamberpots
during cold weather anyway. The woodsmoke will cover up most of the odor
from those.
Probably want to slaughter your chickens, hogs, etc., around back so as
not to spoil the picture. At least, I can't remember seeing a Kinkade
painting with bloodstains in the snow, so this must happen off-screen,
so to speak.
Ah, wilderness!
DS
Mary Campbell
His paintings *are* comics!
This practice can't be called fraudulent ... the prints are identified as
"semi-originals" and whatever that's supposed to mean it's at least a
tip-off that other artists are involved. And presumably people are buying
his work because, as other posters have indicated, they like it and want
to enjoy it in their homes, rather than as an investment. But in a way it
seems like a rip-off. People are paying prices in the range of $500-1000
for what they must believe, even with the "semi-original" tag, is a
genuine work of art worth at least the value on the price tag. But
the more of these go down the assembly line, the less valuable they
are. Customers would be better off buying one of the calendars or posters
that his work is printed on - they'd get the same picture, and save a
thousand bucks.
Kissy Suzuki
wrote:
> People are paying prices in the range of $500-1000
>for what they must believe, even with the "semi-original" tag, is a
>genuine work of art worth at least the value on the price tag. But
>the more of these go down the assembly line, the less valuable they
>are. Customers would be better off buying one of the calendars or posters
>that his work is printed on - they'd get the same picture, and save a
>thousand bucks.
We live in a world where people are willing to spend 1000+ on a little
acrylic animal stuffed with some dried beans.
If people like charming pastoral scenes with cottages,
churches,winding paths and sheep, many *original* late 19th early-20th
century landscapes by English painters are priced in that range.
Why would they want mass-produced schlock?
Check out Sotheby's Arcade and online auctions.
Annie RUtahkn2Me
>cc...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mary Campbell)
>wrote:
Although I love Kinkade's work, I agree with everything you guys have said.
His artwork is outrageously overpriced!
I can't believe he gets away with charging that kind of money for his stuff.
It's ridiculous.
I would NEVER actually BUY any of his work except in calender, poster, or
jigsaw puzzle form. Those are the only sensible prices that I've seen for
Kinkade's work.
Annie RU
Annie RUtahkn2Me
KILLJOY!!!
I hope you're happy, DS.
Is your hobby making babies cry?
Now, I've got to find another fantasy to get lost in. :-(
Annie RU
David Sewell
Donna Whitman <dwhi...@NOSPAM.ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>On 9 Jan 2001 18:30:17 GMT, dr...@virginia.invalid (David Sewell)
>wrote:
>
> How terribly unromantic of you. I bet you don't read Harlequin
>romances either.
I tried some of the historical ones, but I kept thinking about how
scratchy lovemaking must have been with woolen bedclothes, and how
messy cleaning up afterwards without Kleenex...
hamilton
Peep...@webtv.net (Peep...@webtv.net) wrote:
> rutah...@aol.complete (Annie RUtahkn2Me) wrote in article
> <20010109042632...@ng-fu1.aol.com> :
> >>From: eatwe...@aol.com (EatWelBWel)
> >
> >>You are right! Most serious artists and collectors think his stuff IS
> >>schlock.
>
> Although I believe he's the most collected artist in the US right now.
>
> >>But I, for one, would love to live in one of his cottages in one of
> his
> >>towns.
> >>
> >>Sandra in PA
> >>
> >
> >Oh Sandra, me too.
> >
> >I know everyone says his paintings are crap, but I love them. The
> cottages and
> >the villages are the kind I wanted to live in as a dreamy child.
> >
> >Now, as a grown woman, I still want to live in them!
> >
> >Sandra, what's wrong with us! ;-)
>
> J'agree aussi. While I don't consider TK's opus to be great art by
> *any* stretch of the imagination I'll take *it* over those
> elephant-dung-on-the-Virgin-Mary "shock" pieces any ol'
> day..............:-)
did you ever SEE the painting you critize. The dung was not used for
shock but as medium -- the guy does a lot of work using dung as a medium
-- it does not look like s*** and is not used disrespectfully -- and the
painting in question is miles more interesting than the TK opus.
hamilton
(Mary Campbell) wrote:
the tip off that something is not 'art' is when it is refered to as 'sofa
sized' as in a piece of junk to hang over the sofa
MLYoung
>shock but as medium -- the guy does a lot of work using dung as a medium
>-- it does not look like s*** and is not used disrespectfully -- and the
>painting in question is miles more interesting than the TK opus.
As I understand it, elephant dung is
a standard artist's medium in that
part of Africa. Manure has been used
for all sorts of things over the years,
while urine, of course, was the main
source for ammonia--may still be for
all I know.
I've liked pictures I've seen of the painting.
--margaret
MLYoung
>scratchy lovemaking must have been with woolen bedclothes, and how
>messy cleaning up afterwards without Kleenex...
>
Well, since there's always unlimited
wealth involved, one assumes the sheets
are soft amply washed linen and that
there are all sorts of oversized
handkerchiefs about.
--margaret (remembering that the
Ancient Egyptians invented condoms,
apparently as a sort of sex toy)
CiRa
don't know if he has them elsewhere. I know he sells them online. But I was
surprised to see it on the Cape.
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The Original Gumby D!
I'd rather live in a clown print or next door to those kids with big eyes.
EatWelBWel wrote in message
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Reality's bitch
Did anyone else see the PBS series which followed a family living exACTly
as 200 years ago, for an entire year? It was tres fabulous. I prefer a
fairly spartan existence by today's standards, but after watching *that*
I feel positively decadent...
The women were constantly bitching because it was *SO* *SO* very much work
for them, dawn to moondown. When it was time to leave, however, the mother
cried because she'd gotten involved in things she'd wanted to perfect and
finish. The whole thing was quite fascinating...though absolutely *no* life
for a vegetarian.
6th January 2001
Brought to You
by the
Gutless Wonders in the U.S. Senate
LordHogarth
> rutah...@aol.complete (Annie RUtahkn2Me) wrote in article
> <20010109042632...@ng-fu1.aol.com> :
> >>From: eatwe...@aol.com (EatWelBWel)
> >
> >>You are right! Most serious artists and collectors think his stuff IS
> >>schlock.
>
> Although I believe he's the most collected artist in the US right now.
I quite admire his "Dogs Playing Poker."
Hogarth
Peep...@webtv.net
>Schlock is always popular. Look at
>Norman Rockwell (or don't if you don't
>want to).
God, no. Every X-mas for the past 10 yrs, an otherwise-fabulous Great
Aunt sends THIS gal one of umpteen-dozen Norman Rockwell Plates that she
bought from the Bradford x-change back in the '80s.
This year was "Gone Fishing".
*ouch*
She thinks she's parting w/ treasure from the Vatican Collection, too.
*LOL*
Lord, love her.
Unsurprisingly, BTW, Kinkade has said that Rockwell is his
Idol.............
Hugs,
Janice, who -- speaking of a refreshing anti-Rockwell (were we?!) -- was
just reading re: some upcoming (*&* exciting........:-))
gallery-showings of a fave 20thC American artist of THIS gal's, HC
Westermann.
Peej & Elayne would prolly be interested in him, since he employed a
wonderful cartoonishness to express
some of his ironic & absurdist themes.
Peep...@webtv.net
*As* *do* *I*.
Perhaps Your Bountiful Lordship might condescend & commission the master
Kincade to draw on his X-ian roots by painting an altarpiece entitled
"Madonna Holding A Honey-Baked Ham".........?!
Curious hugs to a Great Arts Patron,
Janice
Peep...@webtv.net
>> >I know everyone says his paintings are crap, but I love them. The
>> cottages and
>> >the villages are the kind I wanted to live in as a dreamy child.
>> J'agree aussi. While I don't consider TK's opus to be great art by
>> *any* stretch of the imagination I'll take *it* over those
>> elephant-dung-on-the-Virgin-Mary "shock" pieces any ol'
>> day..............:-)
>did you ever SEE the painting you critize. >The dung was not used for
>shock but as medium -- the guy does a
>lot of work using dung as a medium
>-- it does not look like s*** and is not
>used disrespectfully -- and the
>painting in question is miles more
>interesting than the TK opus.
*ROFLOLPMP*
You poor, naive thang. The UK artist
was W-E-L-L aware of the effect of affixing stick-pins & HUSTLER-style
porn cut-outs all over a portrait of the "Holy Virgin Mary" -- as *well*
as fashioning her breast out of elephant-dung.
Duh.
Problem is, in addition to the unoriginality of it execution & intent
(artists from as far back as Francis Bacon have done *much* better
quasi-blasphemous paintings), the piece itself was rather obvious,
predictable and commonplace, which is why I put shock in quotes.
IOW, "Sensation" was a perfectly trite name for the show in which it was
featured.
Hugs,
Peep...@webtv.net
>>did you ever SEE the painting you critize. The dung was not used for
>>shock but as medium -- the guy does a lot of work using dung as a
medium
>>-- it does not look like s*** and is not used disrespectfully --
>As I understand it, elephant dung is
>a standard artist's medium in that
>part of Africa.
*ROFLOL*
In *what* part of Africa, ditz?! The artist is British.
Geez,
Fiona McQuarrie
:> Hmm. I don't suppose those cottages have electricity. And the quaint New
Don't forget cabin fever after 6 straight months of snow, everyone in the
tiny village knowing your business, and having to marry your cousin
because you don't know anyone else.
Cheers, Fiona
yaz pistachio
wrote:
* Did anyone else see the PBS series which followed a family living
exACTly
* as 200 years ago, for an entire year? It was tres fabulous. I prefer
a
* fairly spartan existence by today's standards, but after watching
*that*
* I feel positively decadent...
*
* The women were constantly bitching because it was *SO* *SO* very
much work
* for them, dawn to moondown. When it was time to leave, however, the
mother
* cried because she'd gotten involved in things she'd wanted to
perfect and
* finish. The whole thing was quite fascinating...though absolutely
*no* life
* for a vegetarian.
i watched parts of this & as a history/research slut, i gotta say that
they weren't entirely accurate. it seemed that they took along far
too many modern expectations about hwo things should be (didn't they
do laundry every three days or so? it would have been more like
1x/week). in addition, for a family of the size & income presented,
there would have been more servants - there would have been at least
one full-time maid & possibly a part-time cook & another part-time
maid (for heavy work) as well.
the mother seemed to have some real hang-ups about having someone else
do the work in her house & that was a shame because it was an accepted
fact of the life she was supposed to be portraying. the episode that
i got to see twice
(and i'd like to digress here & say why is it that when something
repeats three or four times, i always manage to catch exactly the same
episode? three or four repeats of a show & i get to see the same part
over & over again....)
was the one in which the girl hired to be a maid did some research &
found a book written by a woman who had been in service in that time.
fascinating - the whole book was a celebration of the joy this woman
felt in her ability to do her job, in her ability to be independent &
in her own strength. that was also the episode in which the mother
fired the maid because she was having a purely 20th century crisis of
conscience about having a maid.
lea bob
would have no problem with a maid doing the housework. just send one
along...
yaz pistachio
* He has a gallery in Cape Cod and it's obviously, loaded with his
"paintings." I
* don't know if he has them elsewhere. I know he sells them online.
But I was
* surprised to see it on the Cape.
*
there's one in Napa, or Calistoga, i can't remember for sure; maybe
St. Helena? anyway, one somewhere in the Entirely Too Picturesque Wine
Country as well. dude sure does know where to market his product.
lea bob
who is no longer able to drive through the wine country without
thoughts of Danielle Steele's pet pig...
RitaHansard
>God, no. Every X-mas for the past 10 yrs, an otherwise-fabulous Great
>Aunt sends THIS gal one of umpteen-dozen Norman Rockwell Plates that she
>bought from the Bradford x-change back in the '80s.
>
>This year was "Gone Fishing".
>
>*ouch*
Hey, see if she has the one where the kid is brushing the dog's teeth. I like
that one.
>
>She thinks she's parting w/ treasure from the Vatican Collection, too.
>
>*LOL*
You are UNAMERICAN. Shame on you.
>
>Lord, love her.
Just think of all the whacky table settings you can create.
Her Highness The Pink Princess
writes:
>Fiona McQuarrie wrote in message <93dlc2$8ng$2...@morgoth.sfu.ca>...
>>I see lots of ads for this guy's "art", and I notice that he now has a
>>"how
>>to live your life happily" type book. His book says that he has a wife and
>>kids, but the picture of him sets off my gaydar big time (not to mention
>>his cutesy paintings).
>>Anyone know more about him?
>
>
>Ugh, I don't have any info about the guy. I just wish he'd stop painting.
>His stuff is schlock!
>
>Right up there with the big puppy eyes guy.
All that's missing is the velvet.
Reigning and Deigning
Pink Wishes
The Princess \^*^*^/
http://www.FacemakersIncorporated.com
*The romance, excitement and beauty of RMS Titanic is here! Just in time for
Christmas! "Meet me under the clock."
http://www.facemakersincorporated.com/titanicclock.html
LordHogarth
> >> Although I believe he's the most collected artist in the US right
> now.
> >
> >I quite admire his "Dogs Playing Poker."
>
> *As* *do* *I*.
>
> Perhaps Your Bountiful Lordship might condescend & commission the master
> Kincade to draw on his X-ian roots by painting an altarpiece entitled
> "Madonna Holding A Honey-Baked Ham".........?!
> Curious hugs to a Great Arts Patron,
Consider it done. I've commissioned a contemporary British neo-vorticist
artist to do the thing out of the recognized & standard medium for such
works: African elephant dung.
"Medici" Hogarth,
holding his nose.
Peep...@webtv.net
>>God, no. Every X-mas for the past 10 yrs,
>>an otherwise-fabulous Great Aunt sends
>>THIS gal one of umpteen-dozen Norman
>>Rockwell Plates that she bought from the
>>Bradford x-change back in the '80s.
>>This year was "Gone Fishing".
>>*ouch*
>Hey, see if she has the one where the kid
>is brushing the dog's teeth. I like that one.
I'll prolly get it next yr.
~:-)
>>She thinks she's parting w/ treasure from
>>the Vatican Collection, too.
>>*LOL*
>You are UNAMERICAN. Shame on you.
I know, I'm *terrible*. I prefer del Sarto's
Madonnas to Rockwell's Grandmas.
Crucify me.
>>Lord, love her.
>Just think of all the whacky table settings
>you can create.
Just the thing for my Mad Hatter Tea Parties.
#-)
Hugs,
Janice......who did enjoy one Rockwell Plate------->THE SHIPBUILDER
Peep...@webtv.net
Loverly, laddy!! & will the honey-baked hams come from the cadaver-room
of the U. of Edinburgh's med-school or from the evidence-room of the
Dahmer case?!
Curious hugs,
Janice, expecting *this* piece of shock-art will premier at MOMA!!
Her Highness The Pink Princess
Peep...@webtv.net (Peep...@webtv.net) writes:
>Nell:
>
>>Schlock is always popular. Look at
>>Norman Rockwell (or don't if you don't
>>want to).
>
>God, no. Every X-mas for the past 10 yrs, an otherwise-fabulous Great
>Aunt sends THIS gal one of umpteen-dozen Norman Rockwell Plates that she
>bought from the Bradford x-change back in the '80s.
>
>This year was "Gone Fishing".
>
>*ouch*
>
>She thinks she's parting w/ treasure from the Vatican Collection, too.
>
>*LOL*
>
>Lord, love her.
>
>Unsurprisingly, BTW, Kinkade has said that Rockwell is his
>Idol.............
>
Dahling, two words: eBay!
Reigning and Deigning
Pink Wishes
The Princess \^*^*^/
*The romance, excitement and beauty of RMS Titanic is here! Just in time for
Nell
Princess) =====
>In article <93dmok$6bp$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>, "f.5"
<f...@mindspring.com>
>writes:
>
>>Fiona McQuarrie wrote in message <93dlc2$8ng$2...@morgoth.sfu.ca>...
>>>I see lots of ads for this guy's "art", and I notice that he now has a
>>>"how
>>>to live your life happily" type book. His book says that he has a wife and
>>>kids, but the picture of him sets off my gaydar big time (not to mention
>>>his cutesy paintings).
>>>Anyone know more about him?
>>
>>
>>Ugh, I don't have any info about the guy. I just wish he'd stop painting.
>>His stuff is schlock!
>>
>>Right up there with the big puppy eyes guy.
>
>All that's missing is the velvet.
>
>
>Pink Wishes
>The Princess \^*^*^/
>
>
>
>
>
>*The romance, excitement and beauty of RMS Titanic is here! Just in time for
>Christmas! "Meet me under the clock."
>http://www.facemakersincorporated.com/titanicclock.html
look. Very much a traditionalist am I! The big puppy eye subjects look like
they have a glandular condition.
Is there a doctor in the house?
Nell
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RitaHansard
>Date: 1/12/2001 8:21 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id:<3A6B...@MailAndNews.com> wrote:
>Velvet--ah yes, the great Elvis paintings. I prefer the pre-white jumpsuit
>look. Very much a traditionalist am I!
I guess I'm a traditionalist, too. I really always thought he just looked
ridiculous in a cape. Then I saw that round, fur, canopied bed, complete with
built in stereo and a mirror installed in the top, and the capes and paintings
didn't look so bad anymore. And those purple cars...Good Gawd. Is it really
any wonder Lisa Marie turned out so weird?
Rita, loves Elvis, but thinks he had really bad taste in clothes, cars and home
decor
Dymaxia
: >===== Original Message From Peep...@webtv.net (Peep...@webtv.net) =====
: >rutah...@aol.complete (Annie RUtahkn2Me) wrote in article
: ><20010109042632...@ng-fu1.aol.com> :
: >>>From: eatwe...@aol.com (EatWelBWel)
: >>
: >>>You are right! Most serious artists and collectors think his stuff IS
: >>>schlock.
: >Although I believe he's the most collected artist in the US right now.
: >
: >>>But I, for one, would love to live in one of his cottages in one of
: >his
: >>>towns.
: >>>
: >>>Sandra in PA
: >>
: >>Oh Sandra, me too.
: >>
: >>I know everyone says his paintings are crap, but I love them. The
: >cottages and
: >>the villages are the kind I wanted to live in as a dreamy child.
: >>Now, as a grown woman, I still want to live in them!
: >>
: >>Sandra, what's wrong with us! ;-)
: >J'agree aussi. While I don't consider TK's opus to be great art by
: >*any* stretch of the imagination I'll take *it* over those
: >elephant-dung-on-the-Virgin-Mary "shock" pieces any ol'
: >day..............:-)
: >
: >Hugs,
: >Janice, who always has a flashback to TK's lovingly-painted Water Tower
: >whenever I see it in person in Chicago.
: Schlock is always popular. Look at Norman Rockwell (or don't if you don't
: want
: to). No matter how jaded we become, there's something in us that longs for
: something that never was but we feel should have been. I want one of those
: cottages, too.;-)
On a related note, see this:
--
Kerry
Tinfoil
Number One: NEVER underestimate the power of people who think a recognizable
(recognizable due to massive PR and such marketing junk) name means "ART"
(otherwise known as one cut about 'starving artists art sales'
Number Two: I'm sorry, HOPPER is the only 'painter of light' in my book, and
his stuff doesn't make me gag endlessly.
I guess I must get out there and do commemorative plates, limited runs of
prints (meaning 20,000 or so?) and try and get my crap sold on the Home
Shopping Network...??
Argh, Kinkade ranks up there with Ronald Reagan's voice and Kenny G's music
in the Gag Reflex for me.
Tinfoil
Peep...@webtv.net
> >God, no. Every X-mas for the past 10 yrs, an otherwise-fabulous
Great
> >Aunt sends THIS gal one of umpteen-dozen Norman Rockwell Plates that
she
> >bought from the Bradford x-change back in the '80s.
>
> >This year was "Gone Fishing".
>
> >*ouch*
>
> >She thinks she's parting w/ treasure from the Vatican Collection,
too.
>
> >*LOL*
>
> >Lord, love her.
>
> >Unsurprisingly, BTW, Kinkade has said that Rockwell is his
> >Idol.............
>
>
> Dahling, two words: eBay!
Uh, that's not how you spell "target practice".
;^)
Skeet hugs,
Janice
superdamonal speed
EatWelBWel wrote:
>
> You are right! Most serious artists and collectors think his stuff IS schlock.
> But I, for one, would love to live in one of his cottages in one of his towns.
most serious artists and collectors are idiots.
--
Beware of the speeding nun!
superdamonal speed
Mary Campbell wrote:
>
> Elayne Riggs (fire...@panix.com) writes:
> > Mary Campbell <cc...@freenet.carleton.ca> happened to mention:
> >>> Anyone know more about him?
> >
> >> Only that his "art" isn't his own work, it's done by assembly line. Ads
> >> for his prints openly admit this. His Master Edition numbered
> >> lithographs are "hand-highlighted by the artist himself over the
> >> foundation of apprentice highlighting". In other words, some anonymous
> >> employee paints the picture and Kinkade adds a few brush strokes and his
> >> signature.
> >
> > Wow, I thought that only happened in comics. :)
> >
> > - Elayne
>
> His paintings *are* comics!
no.
> This practice can't be called fraudulent ... the prints are identified as
> "semi-originals" and whatever that's supposed to mean it's at least a
> tip-off that other artists are involved. And presumably people are buying
> his work because, as other posters have indicated, they like it and want
> to enjoy it in their homes, rather than as an investment. But in a way it
> seems like a rip-off. People are paying prices in the range of $500-1000
> for what they must believe, even with the "semi-original" tag, is a
> genuine work of art worth at least the value on the price tag. But
> the more of these go down the assembly line, the less valuable they
> are. Customers would be better off buying one of the calendars or posters
> that his work is printed on - they'd get the same picture, and save a
> thousand bucks.
i don't know how much people payed for nagel prints, but
they were copies of his work too.
and i think such prints generally go
in the range of several hundred dollars or more.
i had thought kinkade does the originals, and from reading here
apprentices reproduce his originals, with him having the final touch
ups.
again, nothing wrong, and that makes them no more or less
'art', tho i can't imagine paying 500 bucks for any work
of art unless i was rich.
superdamonal speed
it doesnt' surprise me pj knows nothing about art either.
superdamonal speed
"Peep...@webtv.net" wrote:
>
> Poor Marge fell on her ass encore:
>
> >>did you ever SEE the painting you critize. The dung was not used for
> >>shock but as medium -- the guy does a lot of work using dung as a
> medium
> >>-- it does not look like s*** and is not used disrespectfully --
>
> >As I understand it, elephant dung is
> >a standard artist's medium in that
> >part of Africa.
>
> *ROFLOL*
>
> In *what* part of Africa, ditz?! The artist is British.
>
and there are no british blues singers.
clapton doesn't count, apparently.
Peep...@webtv.net
>>>>the guy does a lot of work using dung as a
>>>>medium -- it does not look like s*** and is
>>>>not used disrespectfully --
>>>As I understand it, elephant dung is
>>>a standard artist's medium in that
>>>part of Africa.
>>*ROFLOL*
>>In *what* part of Africa, ditz?! The artist is
>>British.
>and there are no british blues singers.
>clapton doesn't count, apparently.
Your irrelevant comment aside, baby, I'll simply re-iterate the
UK-artist in question was very much aware of the effect of gluing
elephant feces (complete w/ grass that the elephant had
partially-digested) to a portrait he cheekily called "The Holy Virgin
Mary".
It was, in part, a deliberate attempt to "shock" the audience w/
something patently disrespectful in W. Culture. He admitted as much in
interviews.
Of course, gluing HUSTLER-style porn-cutouts to the BVM is prolly
considered disrespectful in ALL cultures & the artist didn't even
attempt to spin that one for the pro-Giuliani crowd.
Hugs, honey,
Janice.......but speaking of blasphemy & Clapton, WEHT to all the
Clapton=God graffiti?!..............;-)
Nell
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superdamonal speed
"the chicken" wrote:
>
> matte damon glossed:
>
> >>>>the guy does a lot of work using dung as a
> >>>>medium -- it does not look like s*** and is
> >>>>not used disrespectfully --
>
> >>>As I understand it, elephant dung is
> >>>a standard artist's medium in that
> >>>part of Africa.
>
> >>*ROFLOL*
>
> >>In *what* part of Africa, ditz?! The artist is
> >>British.
>
> >and there are no british blues singers.
> >clapton doesn't count, apparently.
>
> Your irrelevant comment aside,
look, i understand you're too stupid to see the obvious
analogy.
so i'll leave it for someone else to explain it to you.
baby, I'll simply re-iterate the
> UK-artist in question was very much aware of the effect of gluing
> elephant feces (complete w/ grass that the elephant had
> partially-digested) to a portrait he cheekily called "The Holy Virgin
> Mary".
>
> It was, in part, a deliberate attempt to "shock" the audience w/
> something patently disrespectful in W. Culture. He admitted as much in
> interviews.
the key words being "in part".
silly little hen.
canuck
16 Brandonpower
Please describe the artist's thoughts towards the Virgin Mary, when
those thoughts formulateed and how these thoughts impacted on this
depiction of the Virgin Mary.
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Brandon Blatcher
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