FWD: SCAM! Hyapatia faked her own death LF
King Daevid MacKenzie, UltimaJock!
be worth)
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Around May 1998, Hyapatia Lee said she'd relapsed into a serious childhood
illness. Several internet reports this week say she's dead while others suspect
Lee is just fine but poor and looking for ways to unload merchandise. Place
Luke Ford among the skeptics.
I received this from a well-placed source: "Hyapatia and her husband are
roughly 35 and 28, respectively, and although they're both in perfectly good
health, they've managed to qualify for monthly disability and welfare checks
from uncle sam. But this is nothing new for Hyapatia - she was collecting food
stamps and pleading poverty for government handouts even while dancing on the
road for $5-6000 a week. Hyapatia and her husband make a comfortable living off
the federal dole, which includes $300 a month from the state for each kid as
well - add in the ex's child support payments, and royalties from Hyapatia's
fan club, website, and movie royalties, and they're making about $4,000 every
month for doing absolutely nothing. They are extremely proud of themselves for
having achieved this state of paid inertia, which is also fueled by Hyapatia's
belief that "the world owes her a living."
"Several months ago, Hyapatia came up with another plan to make more
'money for nothing' - and it involved faking her own death. She engaged
the help of a few people to start spreading the word that she was
gravely ill, by telling them secretly that she was having problems with
a stalker, and by faking her own death she would hopefully be able to
live her life in safe anonymity. And so a 'goodbye' message to fans was
put on her website, and all website sales were discontinued (at this
time Hyapatia was also filing for personal bankruptcy, which
coincidentally necessitated quickly covering any apparant sources of
income & material assets, like fan club merchandise and inventory...)
"After a few months passed, Hyapatia decided it was time to roll over
and play dead, and had someone begin spreading the word on the net that
'Hyapatia Lee has passed away'... And this is where the clincher of her
plan comes in - attached to the sad obituary note is a brilliant sales
pitch, pleading for fans to pity her poor family that has no money to
pay her doctor bills or burial expenses, followed with a "special
offering" of "exclusive fan club merchandise" from beyond the grave....
Wow - so she got to file for bankruptcy, while keeping all her inventory
AND hiding it from Uncle Sam, AND she got to jack up the prices while
boosting sales with a tearstained plea that no loyal fan could resist.
"Well, now she can pat herself on the back until her arm falls off,
reminding herself how clever she is for beating the system again and
again, and for pulling off her coup de' tat, a swan song that swept
those scummy porno fans along for one last glorious ride. She planned
this out deliberately as her last dealing with adult industry, before
closing the door on that unhappy part of her past, and moving in a new
direction. I wonder if she's in newsgroups right now, reading through
the sad obituary postings by her loyal and trusting fans... and
calculating how much money each one is gonna send her..."
Luke Ford - Journalism that goes all the way!
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The Avocado Avenger
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>'Hyapatia Lee has passed away'... And this is where the clincher of her
>plan comes in - attached to the sad obituary note is a brilliant sales
>pitch, pleading for fans to pity her poor family that has no money to
>pay her doctor bills or burial expenses, followed with a "special
>offering" of "exclusive fan club merchandise" from beyond the grave....
This was the reason I was suspicious; also, the mysterious childhood
disease was identified only once as diabetes, which didn't seem to fit in
with the details of her terminal illness.
This doesn't mean it's true, of course. I just think that the "Hyapatia
is dead oh by the way, buy our stuff" letter was rather suspicious. Her
web page certainly does pull on the ol' heartstrings though, doesn't it?
Stacia * The Avocado Avenger * Life is a tale told by an idiot;
http://www.io.com/~stacia/ * Full of sound and fury,
Remove the guacamole to reply! * Signifying nothing.
james jorden
much work as a legit job. "Qualifying" for disability is hardly water off a duck's
back, as I have learned helping friends with HIV slogging through the red tape. It
surely must be worse if you have to manufacture the various evidence of your
disability too. If nothing else, you've got the pressure of wondering if someone
knows about your little scheme. All it takes is one person who's pissed at you
(e.g., the doctor who faked the claim form) who will turn you in, and then you're
in trouble. And of course, since *you* know you make your living as a cheat and a
liar, you're going to expect everyone else to be untrustworthy too -- which means
you're looking over your back every minute.
Now, I wonder about this "faking your own death" thing. Is it really possible to
live without ID? Is this "dead" woman going to be able to get a checking account
or a passport or a driver's license? Where did they come up with a death
certificate?
One of these days, people will realize that crime is just as much work as any other
job, and will start designing webpages like everyone else.
> 'Hyapatia Lee has passed away'... And this is where the clincher of her
> plan comes in - attached to the sad obituary note is a brilliant sales
> pitch, pleading for fans to pity her poor family that has no money to
> pay her doctor bills or burial expenses, followed with a "special
> offering" of "exclusive fan club merchandise" from beyond the grave....
> Wow - so she got to file for bankruptcy, while keeping all her inventory
> AND hiding it from Uncle Sam, AND she got to jack up the prices while
> boosting sales with a tearstained plea that no loyal fan could resist.
>
> "Well, now she can pat herself on the back until her arm falls off,
> reminding herself how clever she is for beating the system again and
> again, and for pulling off her coup de' tat, a swan song that swept
> those scummy porno fans along for one last glorious ride. She planned
> this out deliberately as her last dealing with adult industry, before
> closing the door on that unhappy part of her past, and moving in a new
> direction. I wonder if she's in newsgroups right now, reading through
> the sad obituary postings by her loyal and trusting fans... and
> calculating how much money each one is gonna send her..."
>
> Luke Ford - Journalism that goes all the way!
> Scoops: http://www.lukeford.com
> Justice: http://www.dennisprager.net
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Jeremy Mathers
james jorden <jjo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>See, the logical link that's missing here is that any scam is hard
>work, in fact as much work as a legit job. "Qualifying" for disability
>is hardly water off a duck's back, as I have learned helping friends
>with HIV slogging through the red tape. It surely must be worse if you
>have to manufacture the various evidence of your disability too. If
>nothing else, you've got the pressure of wondering if someone knows
>about your little scheme. All it takes is one person who's pissed at
>you (e.g., the doctor who faked the claim form) who will turn you in,
>and then you're in trouble. And of course, since *you* know you make
>your living as a cheat and a liar, you're going to expect everyone else
>to be untrustworthy too -- which means you're looking over your back
>every minute.
Agreed. It's more likley to be just another net.loon thing.
The point is - either there is a body or there isn't. The FYOD thing
can only work if you can arrange for your body to be "lost at sea" or
something like that (maybe you arrange to [appear to] plunge yourself
into a vat of acid). Maybe eaten by coyotes (in an Old West film) ...
>Now, I wonder about this "faking your own death" thing. Is it really
>possible to live without ID? Is this "dead" woman going to be able to
>get a checking account or a passport or a driver's license? Where did
>they come up with a death certificate?
Actually, I'd imagine that once you've taken care of the body
disposition issue (see above), getting/maintaining a new identity
is relatively easy.
>One of these days, people will realize that crime is just as much work
>as any other job, and will start designing webpages like everyone else.
Good line. That's a keeper.
In fact, that is how a lot of porn types have re-birthed themselves.
Rob Merritt
<jjo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>See, the logical link that's missing here is that any scam is hard work, in fact as
>much work as a legit job. "Qualifying" for disability is hardly water off a duck's
>back, as I have learned helping friends with HIV slogging through the red tape. It
>surely must be worse if you have to manufacture the various evidence of your
>disability too.
> If nothing else, you've got the pressure of wondering if someone
>knows about your little scheme. All it takes is one person who's pissed at you
>(e.g., the doctor who faked the claim form) who will turn you in, and then you're
>in trouble. And of course, since *you* know you make your living as a cheat and a
>liar, you're going to expect everyone else to be untrustworthy too -- which means
>you're looking over your back every minute.
Nope. The sad fact is that the healthier a person is, the easier it is
to qualify. Why? Well when you're sick or disabled , you simply don't
have the energy to run around to see dozens of doctors, get papers
signed, and bug the heck out of the SSA. Now you are right that the
chance of you getting caught is quite high but that normally doesn't
happen after years and 90% of the time all that happens is the person
loses their benefits.
>Now, I wonder about this "faking your own death" thing. Is it really possible to
>live without ID? Is this "dead" woman going to be able to get a checking account
>or a passport or a driver's license? Where did they come up with a death
>certificate?
Thats pretty easy. There are doctors that will give fake death and
birth certificates for a few $1ks. Any other id can be bought for a
few hundred.
Rob Merritt
http://www.bcpl.net/~robertm
John Vogel
:
: Now, I wonder about this "faking your own death" thing. Is it really possible to
: live without ID? Is this "dead" woman going to be able to get a checking account
: or a passport or a driver's license? Where did they come up with a death
: certificate?
All these are easily obtainable by stealing someone else's identity. This
was detailed in a recent 20/20.
John
jvo...@i1.net
King Daevid MacKenzie, UltimaJock!
John Vogel) quotes james jorden (jjo...@ix.netcom.com) 'n sez:
□ : Now, I wonder about this "faking your own death" thing. Is it really
possible to
□ : live without ID? Is this "dead" woman going to be able to get a
checking account
□ : or a passport or a driver's license? Where did they come up with a death
□ : certificate?
□
□ All these are easily obtainable by stealing someone else's identity. This
□ was detailed in a recent 20/20.
...too bad John Stossel can't steal Stone Phillips' identity...they seem
so meant-for-each-other...
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