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NakedGirl9

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Apr 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/23/97
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I was wondering what are the highest & lowest known prices for lap
dances and where? I'm sure there is quite a range and I bet some of you
guys have enough SC notches in your travel belts to give a little feedback
on this topic.

Kiss-kiss,
~Mandy~

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BCSNOW

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Apr 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/23/97
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In Houston, the lowest price I was ever able to negotiate was $10 for 2
dances to a chick that looked extremely like Kirstie Alley. This was at
Playmates in SW Houston. Frequently you can still get dancers at the
lower echelon clubs to perform for $10. Of course, I've gotten on rare
occassion a "Free" dance from a regular but I consider that just
lagnaippe(sp?).

The highest price I've paid is $40. This was for a porno actress that was
appearing with John Wayne Bobbit at Michaels. In Houston $20 is still the
norm, $25 if you put it on credit card. However, some chicks at the Men's
club and other places want $25. Once at the Hi-10 cabaret in East
Houston/Pasadena a friend of mine paid porn star Christy Canyon $50 for a
lap dance. He thought it a bargain.

In Vegas, some places charge $40 or $50. These places are called "Clip
Joints" by my brothers who are both dealers up there. I was in Altlanta a
few years ago and was enthusiastic when I asked the front counter girl how
much was a table dance at the Gold Club and she said $5. Unfortunately, a
table dance was just that--a no contact dance on a table by the girl.

Mike Hammer

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Apr 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/24/97
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naked...@aol.com (NakedGirl9) wrote:


I've seen low's at $1.00 known as the
dollar dick dance as done in Smiles in
Wappengers NY. The girls hop from lap to
lap grind for about 20 seconds and pull
on there garter if you want more you
feed them a dollar at a time, personally
I think this works since every guy in
the club gets a chance for a lapper and
the girls make a killing in cash since
they never get a "no thanks"

as for a high..the sky is the limit I've
seen girls take as much as $400 for a
single dance from a big spender

moresuo

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Apr 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/24/97
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On 23 Apr 1997 18:58:42 GMT, naked...@aol.com (NakedGirl9) wrote:

> I was wondering what are the highest & lowest known prices for lap
>dances and where? I'm sure there is quite a range and I bet some of you
>guys have enough SC notches in your travel belts to give a little feedback
>on this topic.

Highest I am aware of was at a club I bounced at some time ago. It
was private, members only. Not members like some of the BYOB clubs
are, but really private, invitation/sponsered only.

The cliental were mostly Newark wiseguys and wheels in the
construction business, and guests of same. Working as a bouncer
there was interesting as I was there to protect the Ladies more then
anything else and I was probably the ONLY guy in the place not
carrying a gun.

Dancing with the girls was permitted, and buying a Lady a drink was a
very expensive proposition. Each table was screened from view of the
others by a rattan dressing style screen. Laps, when the Ladies were
so inclined [and my purpose there was to see that it was ONLY when the
Ladies were so inclined] was a matter for between the Lady and the
Gentleman.. as was the price of same. There were no 'house' rules
regarding what the market would bare. I was not privy to
'negotiations' but the Ladies like to talk about how much this one had
offered and been turned down, or paid and accepted. $200 was the
highest I had heard.. and this was 15 years ago.. $200 was really $200
then.

My information is old.. but its what I know. :) Been a LONG time
since I bounced in a club. Not that I miss it much. :)

Wishing well,
Moresuo

LapMeRich

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Apr 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/24/97
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On 23 Apr 1997 23:44:26 GMT, bcs...@aol.com (BCSNOW) wrote:
>In Vegas, some places charge $40 or $50. These places are called "Clip
>Joints" by my brothers who are both dealers up there.

The so called "clip joints" have been shut down by the city for
several years now. The dances in Las Vegas range from $10 (Cheetah's)
to $40 (all nude lap at Palomino) with the average right at $20. The
only variance in this is if you decide to do chunks of time in one of
the VIP rooms at the different clubs.


LMR
--
Las Vegas Strip Club Review
http://members.aol.com/vegasscr

NakedGirl9

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Apr 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/24/97
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<<<LMR writes:
<snip of interesting facts> In Southern California, several clubs
like Mermaids and Exstacy have $50 nude Bed Dances.>>>

What does a "Bed Dance" consist of?

Meowww,

Murf

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Apr 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/24/97
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LMR-->

><snip of interesting facts> In Southern California, several clubs
>like Mermaids and Exstacy have $50 nude Bed Dances.>>>

NakedGirl9-->


>What does a "Bed Dance" consist of?

You, uh, do the dance on a bed.... :)

Just like a lapdance but the customer can lie down... At DejaVu in North
Hollywood, they have beds in cubicles about 8' square that are setup like
little rooms. There's enough floor space for a little dancing, but most of
it is done like a lapdance with the customer prone. [most customers don't
want to waste the bux for just a private dance - those 'rooms' go for a
3-song minimum or $60/9 mins. Best bargain in the place too at $100/30
mins]
B

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LapMeRich

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Apr 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/24/97
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On 24 Apr 1997 21:43:14 GMT, naked...@aol.com (NakedGirl9) wrote:
>What does a "Bed Dance" consist of?

Come down to Southern California or Las Vegas and I'll show you. And
just because you're an ASSC'er, I'll even do 2 for 1's. I hear I'm
high mileage. But I'm going to have to request payment up front
however. I've had to learn the hard way about getting burned and not
getting paid for dances.

*Seeing Paris* LMR

The JoshMan

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Apr 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/24/97
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LapMeRich wrote:
>
> On 23 Apr 1997 23:44:26 GMT, bcs...@aol.com (BCSNOW) wrote:
> >In Vegas, some places charge $40 or $50. These places are called "Clip
> >Joints" by my brothers who are both dealers up there.
>
> The so called "clip joints" have been shut down by the city for
> several years now. The dances in Las Vegas range from $10 (Cheetah's)
> to $40 (all nude lap at Palomino) with the average right at $20. The
> only variance in this is if you decide to do chunks of time in one of
> the VIP rooms at the different clubs.
>

So there!!

TJM

Pond Scum

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Apr 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/25/97
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In article <335fbf62....@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, lapm...@aol.com wrote:
> The so called "clip joints" have been shut down by the city for

Repeat after LMR:

The clip joints have been shut down by the city (Las Vegas) for several
years now.

One of the last was a place next to Crazy Horse on Paradise Rd. I think
it was called Nasty's. It was closed down at least three years ago.
There was another one next to that called Taboo, or Tabu, which closed
before Nasty's. If anyone warns you about them, their information is
way out of date.

I have heard stories about the police being sympathetic towards customers
who got into brawls with the bouncers there (after putting $900 charges
on their credit card for bottles of non-alcoholic champagne) and not
arresting them. I dunno how much truth there is to these stories.

I was told that one of the managers of that fine establishment was trying
open another clip joint at the old site of Runway 69 about a year and
a half ago, but I don't think it ever happened.

--
Jonathan Hue jh...@wco.com http://www.wco.com/~jhue

BCSNOW

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Apr 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/25/97
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Didn't say the "Average" dance price there was that $40 or $50. Said that
was the highest price I've seen charged as per the question Mandy asked.

LapMeRich

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Apr 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/25/97
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On 25 Apr 1997 16:10:17 GMT, bcs...@aol.com (BCSNOW) wrote:
>Didn't say the "Average" dance price there was that $40 or $50. Said that
>was the highest price I've seen charged as per the question Mandy asked.

Hello? Are we reading the same messages? I never posted anything
saying that you said the average was this or that. My response to you
had nothing to do with how high you've seen clubs charge. The followup
was to inform you and the group that the clip joints no longer existed
and what the current prices for actual clubs in the Las Vegas area.

The JoshMan

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Apr 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/25/97
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And I'm less than proud to say that in my early SC days, I got clipped at
Tabu. Luckily (?) they only got me for about $300 before I realized the
scam. I would have tried to fight the charge on my card, but they make
you sign a statement saying you won't do so before you get led to the
'private' areas.

Speaking of Runway 69, I haven't seen any Risky Business ads recently.
Did they fold? I was only there a couple of times, but it was always
very dead inside,

TJM

0003...@edtec.com

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Apr 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/25/97
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

: (On lap dance prices, somebody recently posted:) I was in Altlanta a


: few years ago and was enthusiastic when I asked the front counter girl how
: much was a table dance at the Gold Club and she said $5. Unfortunately, a
: table dance was just that--a no contact dance on a table by the girl.

This fellow's Atlanta visit must have been during the Carter
administration. Table dances (a/k/a "air dances") in Atlanta's strip clubs
have been priced at $10 for quite a long time.


[ Via EDTec Anon Remail Service: <info...@edtec.com> ]


Tom Avery

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Apr 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/26/97
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naked...@aol.com (NakedGirl9) wrote:

> I was wondering what are the highest & lowest known prices for lap
>dances and where? I'm sure there is quite a range and I bet some of you
>guys have enough SC notches in your travel belts to give a little feedback
>on this topic.

>Kiss-kiss,
>~Mandy~

Lowest - Fairbanks Hotel, Toronto. $6 canadian for a full song. It
works out to about $4.50 U.S.

TA
--
Tom Avery
CPI - Cleveland Panty Inspector
xtra...@ix.netcom.com


NakedGirl9

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Apr 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/26/97
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I still wanna know what a bed dance is! Please, somebody!?

~M~

RGreen1215

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Apr 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/27/97
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This is only a guess. In NYC we have lap dances. The last time I was in SF
I had wall dances, which is the same as a lap dance except we were
standing with my back pressed against a wall. I would guess that a bed
dance is the same as a lap dance except done prone on a bed.

JukeboxPHD

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Apr 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/28/97
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NakedGirl9<--I still wanna know what a bed dance is! Please, somebody!?

Juke<--Horizontal lap dancing.

Z Bone

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On 26 Apr 1997 20:46:51 GMT, naked...@aol.com (NakedGirl9) wrote:

>
> I still wanna know what a bed dance is! Please, somebody!?

Boy, you have been away a while, eh? Check my "Terminologies" on my
site by clicking on "Club Reviews".

_______
Z Bone

LA Strip Club Gossip and Reviews
http://zbone.com

BCSNOW

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Apr 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/28/97
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Hello? Are you cutting and pasting my responses in its entireity? I
think not. Yes, your message did say the average was $20 -$25 in Las
Vegas and incorrectly implied that I said $40 was the LV average. Follow
the thread.

But to add more fuel to the fire the "Clip Joint" that I had in mind and
that you say is now closed down is the exact example that you furnished:
The Palomino Club. Let me explain. Last time I was there I paid a cover
charge. Then to be seated up close (where there was plenty of seats) the
usher wanted a tip. Then to go to up the upstairs the "doorman" wanted
another tip. (they had a guy at the top of the stairs regulating who
entered). Then he explained that I could not bring my drink with me and
would be required to purchase another one when I entered the upstairs
area. He also confirmed my fears when I asked him if I could bring my
upstairs drink downstairs with me (no!) and would I have to buy a new one
(yes!). Keep in mind the drinks were in very small glasses. The group of
about 10 guys I was with were all told the same thing.

True, the average table dance I've paid in Vegas is $20. I've been
several times to OG, Cheetah's and Crazy Horse II in Vegas and there never
had anything like my Palomino experience. As a matter of fact, Crazy
Horse honored my 2 year old member card last time I was there in early
Feb.

BTW, "Clip Joint" is a termed used for places that cheat you, some very
subtly. If you place an odds bet at a casino and can't be paid in full
because the table doesn't carry a small enough chip, they will pay under
the full amount (eg put down $1 at a BJ table and hit blackjack but the
smallest amount cheque at the table is $1 you will be paid even money and
"clipped" 50 cents). When I went to Vegas I asked my brother if the
Palomino still operated in the same manner and he said yes. Of course, he
may not have been there in a while since we have both been taught, "Cheat
me once, shame on you, cheat me twice, shame on me."

boo...@the.club

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Apr 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/29/97
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On 28 Apr 1997 23:44:23 GMT, bcs...@aol.com (BCSNOW) wrote:

>Then he explained that I could not bring my drink with me and
>would be required to purchase another one when I entered the upstairs
>area. He also confirmed my fears when I asked him if I could bring my
>upstairs drink downstairs with me (no!) and would I have to buy a new one
>(yes!). Keep in mind the drinks were in very small glasses. The group of
>about 10 guys I was with were all told the same thing.

I know several of the clubs in Washington, DC have a similar policy.
But I don't believe it's meant to cheat you out of anything, as most
customers plop themselves down and stay in one spot for their entire
visit. I think they're more concerned about drunks running about with
glass objects in hand...

boozer

LapMeRich

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Apr 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/29/97
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On 28 Apr 1997 23:44:23 GMT, bcs...@aol.com (BCSNOW) wrote:
>Hello? Are you cutting and pasting my responses in its entireity? I
>think not. Yes, your message did say the average was $20 -$25 in Las
>Vegas and incorrectly implied that I said $40 was the LV average.

No I'm not cutting and pasting your responses in it's entirety. Why do
I need to? Ever hear of editing? I only cut out what applied to Las
Vegas. And as far as any implying goes, my followup to you said ...

"Hello? Are we reading the same messages? I never posted anything
saying that you said the average was this or that. My response to you
had nothing to do with how high you've seen clubs charge. The followup
was to inform you and the group that the clip joints no longer existed
and what the current prices for actual clubs in the Las Vegas area."

Where did I imply you said $40 was the LV average?

In an earlier message I said ...

"The so called "clip joints" have been shut down by the city for

several years now. The dances in Las Vegas range from $10 (Cheetah's)
to $40 (all nude lap at Palomino) with the average right at $20. The
only variance in this is if you decide to do chunks of time in one of
the VIP rooms at the different clubs."

Again, where did I imply about you saying $40 was the LV average?

>But to add more fuel to the fire the "Clip Joint" that I had in mind and
>that you say is now closed down is the exact example that you furnished:
>The Palomino Club. Let me explain. Last time I was there I paid a cover
>charge. Then to be seated up close (where there was plenty of seats) the
>usher wanted a tip. Then to go to up the upstairs the "doorman" wanted
>another tip. (they had a guy at the top of the stairs regulating who

>entered). Then he explained that I could not bring my drink with me and


>would be required to purchase another one when I entered the upstairs
>area. He also confirmed my fears when I asked him if I could bring my
>upstairs drink downstairs with me (no!) and would I have to buy a new one
>(yes!). Keep in mind the drinks were in very small glasses. The group of
>about 10 guys I was with were all told the same thing.

Yes, The Palomino does that. However, is it a clip joint? Based on
your definition, maybe. Compared to the actual clip joints like the
now defunct Black Garter et al, no way. It's all relative. At what
point do you feel cheated? Some people might consider having to pay
for two drinks at a place with a $10 cover as clipping. I agree that
the buying a new drink to go upstairs or downstairs at The Palomino is
a load of crap, but it still doesn't put it in the same category with
the infamous "clip joints" of Las Vegas past where people got charged
hundreds of dollars for a single drink and routinely got beat up. As
a reviewer of Las Vegas strip clubs, do I think the Palomino offers
value? No, but it is the only nude club in the area which serves
alcohol. There are 20 or so strip clubs in Las Vegas, pick another.

JayJ61952

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Apr 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/29/97
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BCSSNOW <---But to add more fuel to the fire the "Clip Joint" that I had


in mind and that you say is now closed down is the exact example that you
furnished:
The Palomino Club. Let me explain. Last time I was there I paid a cover
charge. Then to be seated up close (where there was plenty of seats) the
usher wanted a tip. Then to go to up the upstairs the "doorman" wanted
another tip. (they had a guy at the top of the stairs regulating who
entered). Then he explained that I could not bring my drink with me and
would be required to purchase another one when I entered the upstairs
area. He also confirmed my fears when I asked him if I could bring my
upstairs drink downstairs with me (no!) and would I have to buy a new one
(yes!). Keep in mind the drinks were in very small glasses. The group of
about 10 guys I was with were all told the same thing.

LMR <--Yes, The Palomino does that. However, is it a clip joint? Based on


your definition, maybe. Compared to the actual clip joints like the
now defunct Black Garter et al, no way. It's all relative. At what
point do you feel cheated? Some people might consider having to pay
for two drinks at a place with a $10 cover as clipping. I agree that
the buying a new drink to go upstairs or downstairs at The Palomino is
a load of crap, but it still doesn't put it in the same category with
the infamous "clip joints" of Las Vegas past where people got charged
hundreds of dollars for a single drink and routinely got beat up. As
a reviewer of Las Vegas strip clubs, do I think the Palomino offers
value? No, but it is the only nude club in the area which serves
alcohol. There are 20 or so strip clubs in Las Vegas, pick another.

JayJ <-- I've got to agree with LMR. The Palimino falls into the "Tourist
Trap" category, where everything costs 2-3 times what it should but it
does deliver what it promises (although I think its gone downhill since
the old owner died). Lots of Traps in Vegas, in all line of businesses.
As long as money is no object its a fun place. But if you want value
pricing, stay away. And after the first tip, ignore the doorman. Save
your money for the girls. The won't like it, but like somebody making
a stink less.

But as a 2-time victim (yeah, shame on me, but it was years apart)
of the actual "clip joints" (one in the Commerce Center, one in the
building that now houses Little Darlin's <even I had enough sense to
stay out of the Black Garter>), where all they deliver is a rip-off and
the bouncer is hoping you make a protest so he can bust your head,
I've got to say they were a whole 'nother level. The kinda place that
makes you want to go back with a anti-tank missle. BCSNOW, be
glad you missed the real clip joints, stay away from the Tourist Traps,
and enjoy the other clubs in town.

Jay J
I don't need no steenkin' signature

BCSNOW

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Apr 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/29/97
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Let me point out that both you and LAPMERICH are from Vegas. If a club in
Houston operated in the manner that the Palomino did, it would be out of
business in two months, no matter if they served alcohol at a totally nude
club or not. Instead of paying your cover at the door and going in to
enjoy, they simply set out to cheat you and get more money out of you at
every turn. Perhaps ya'll have been so used to clipping tourists in LV
that you've rationalized it as taking advantage of the "tourist trap." I
have more respect for my ASSC brethren, in my opinion DO NOT GO TO THE
PALOMINO.


Pond Scum

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Apr 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/30/97
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In article <19970429223...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, bcs...@aol.com

(BCSNOW) wrote:
> Let me point out that both you and LAPMERICH are from Vegas. If a club in

Who is "you"? Ever hear of quoting? Or are you as brain-dead as that
AOL newsreader?

> every turn. Perhaps ya'll have been so used to clipping tourists in LV
> that you've rationalized it as taking advantage of the "tourist trap." I
> have more respect for my ASSC brethren, in my opinion DO NOT GO TO THE
> PALOMINO.

I can't classify Palomino as a clip joint. The costs for everything are
known in advance, and the services/goods are delivered.

Have you ever heard of anyone who went to the Palomino and didn't:

* Get in after paying $10?
* Get two drinks after paying $6 each plus tip?
* Get a dance after paying $40?
* Get a good seat after tipping $5-$10 to the maitre d'(on a busy night)?

A clip joint delivers nothing, and takes you for a *lot* more than the
$22 + tips minimum you could spend at the Palomino Club.

As far as not being able to take drinks upstairs or downstairs, they'll
readily admit that the reason for that policy is to make you buy another
drink, if you ask them. If having to buy a $6 drink or tipping a
floorperson for a good seat is a big problem for you, don't ever bother
going to Club Paradise. It's $20 to the floorman to be seated in a
booth there. I guess that must be a clip joint as well, eh?

TEC

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Apr 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/30/97
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In article <jhue-ya02408000R3004970122120001@news>, jh...@wco.com (Pond
Scum) wrote:

> In article <19970429223...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, bcs...@aol.com
> (BCSNOW) wrote:
> > every turn. Perhaps ya'll have been so used to clipping tourists in LV
> > that you've rationalized it as taking advantage of the "tourist trap." I
> > have more respect for my ASSC brethren, in my opinion DO NOT GO TO THE
> > PALOMINO.
>
> I can't classify Palomino as a clip joint. The costs for everything are
> known in advance, and the services/goods are delivered.

Well, Vegas is probably the worlds largest clip joint. Its whole purpose
is to separate the mark from his money as quickly and painlessly as
possible. The key is the painless part, the Palomino sounds too obvious
and petty in its methods.


>
> Have you ever heard of anyone who went to the Palomino and didn't:
>
> * Get in after paying $10?
> * Get two drinks after paying $6 each plus tip?
> * Get a dance after paying $40?
> * Get a good seat after tipping $5-$10 to the maitre d'(on a busy night)?
>
> A clip joint delivers nothing, and takes you for a *lot* more than the
> $22 + tips minimum you could spend at the Palomino Club.

Based on the description, patrons are getting clipped big time. You just
sound like you enjoy it.


>
> As far as not being able to take drinks upstairs or downstairs, they'll
> readily admit that the reason for that policy is to make you buy another
> drink, if you ask them.

So they are supposed to get credit for being honest about clipping you?

>If having to buy a $6 drink or tipping a
> floorperson for a good seat is a big problem for you, don't ever bother
> going to Club Paradise. It's $20 to the floorman to be seated in a
> booth there. I guess that must be a clip joint as well, eh?

Sounds like a clip joint to me.

--
Ignorance kill the cat; Curiosity was framed.
Send e-mail to t...@commkey.net

BCSNOW

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Subject: Re: ASSC: Las Vegas Clip Joints (was Re: ASSC: Laps of Luxury)
From: jh...@wco.com (Pond Scum)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 01:22:12 -0700
Message-ID: <jhue-ya02408000R3004970122120001@news>

> Let me point out that both you and LAPMERICH are from Vegas. If a club
in

Who is "you"? Ever hear of quoting? Or are you as brain-dead as that
AOL newsreader?

+Did I hit a nerve ass-wipe? Thought by replying to JayJ...@AOL.COM's
+note his name would somehow be on it. If it didn't, I apologize since my
+intention is NOT to misrepresent anything or anyone. Since your note is
right +below his (at least in my inferior AOL reader) I bet you figured it
out, huh, +jerk-off? By the way, almost half the folks who responded to
Mandy's original +note are AOL users. Get use to us.


> every turn. Perhaps ya'll have been so used to clipping tourists in LV
> that you've rationalized it as taking advantage of the "tourist trap."
I
> have more respect for my ASSC brethren, in my opinion DO NOT GO TO THE
> PALOMINO.

I can't classify Palomino as a clip joint. The costs for everything are
known in advance, and the services/goods are delivered.

+No, the costs for everything are NOT known in advance except for the
cover
+charge and two drink minimun. I wouldn't bitch about things that were
+represented fairly. Did you see my definition for clip joint? Probably
not
+because other folks haven't cut and pasted my note in its entireity
either.
+A "Clip" isn't a total rip-off like the meat grinders you and others
describe.
+ But are the "goods" delivered? Yes, if you mean are there totally
nekkid
+ women there but that was never an issue.

Have you ever heard of anyone who went to the Palomino and didn't:

* Get in after paying $10?
* Get two drinks after paying $6 each plus tip?
* Get a dance after paying $40?
* Get a good seat after tipping $5-$10 to the maitre d'(on a busy night)?

+I don't think this is fair question since I don't know that many folks
who live in
+Vegas. That's not the real point isn't it? The real point is to warn
ASSCers that +they will be asked to pay for things they take for granted
at every other club
+they've entered when they go to the Palamino.

A clip joint delivers nothing, and takes you for a *lot* more than the
$22 + tips minimum you could spend at the Palomino Club.

+I'm tired of arguing semantics about if its a clip joint or is not.
+Ask a crap dealer what being "Clipped" is and you'll understand.

As far as not being able to take drinks upstairs or downstairs, they'll
readily admit that the reason for that policy is to make you buy another
drink, if you ask them.

+Didn't you just say the cost for everything is known in advance earlier?

If having to buy a $6 drink or tipping a floorperson for a good seat is a
big problem for you, don't ever bother going to Club Paradise. It's $20
to the floorman to be seated in a booth there. I guess that must be a
clip joint as well, eh?

+Thanks for the warning, brother. That's what my original note about the
+Palomino was all about...

Dr. Mazoola

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May 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/1/97
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>
> I know several of the clubs in Washington, DC have a similar policy.
> But I don't believe it's meant to cheat you out of anything, as most
> customers plop themselves down and stay in one spot for their entire
> visit. I think they're more concerned about drunks running about with
> glass objects in hand...
>
> boozer

I always assumed (and I think I checked it out with Blaze, when she was
bartending @ 1720) that it was to protect themselves against underage
drinking. That is, you only have to be 18 to get in the club, but 21 to
drink....

Maz

Tom Avery

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May 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/1/97
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naked...@aol.com (NakedGirl9) wrote:

> I was wondering what are the highest & lowest known prices for lap
>dances and where? I'm sure there is quite a range and I bet some of you
>guys have enough SC notches in your travel belts to give a little feedback
>on this topic.

>Kiss-kiss,
>~Mandy~

There is another club, I just remembered about 45min. east of
Cleveland. It is a nude juice bar. M-W I think the nude laps are $5,
and Th-S they are $10. Just a couple girls dancing in a small town
joint.

JayJ61952

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May 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/1/97
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From: bcs...@aol.com (BCSNOW)

>Let me point out that both you and LAPMERICH are from Vegas. If a club
in

>Houston operated in the manner that the Palomino did, it would be out of
>business in two months, no matter if they served alcohol at a totally
nude
>club or not. Instead of paying your cover at the door and going in to
>enjoy, they simply set out to cheat you and get more money out of you at

>every turn. Perhaps ya'll have been so used to clipping tourists in LV
>that you've rationalized it as taking advantage of the "tourist trap." I
>have more respect for my ASSC brethren, in my opinion DO NOT GO TO THE
>PALOMINO.

I haven't read LMR's review of the Palimino for awhile, but all of my
reviews have always called it a Tourist Trap, "something everybody
should experience once, but for value, there are many other clubs
in town." So we agree there.

But the phrase "Clip Joint", in Las Vegas, has a precise meaning.
The Palimino does not qualify.

As for Houston, I seem to remember a couple of clubs by the airport
(disclaimer: can't remember names, and it might have been in San
Antonio, I've just been in too f***ing many Texas airports) where
"expense accounts only" and "If you have to ask you can't
afford it" SHOULD have been posted at the door. I'd call them
"Tourist Traps", because I've also been to many good-value clubs
in Texas also.

TGEM

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May 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/4/97
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>
>There might actually be a clip joint (by my, LMR's, and JayJ's definition)
>operating in Las Vegas. Try the following url:
>
>news:336A7E...@gulf.net
>

Would somebody mind posting the text of this article, or forwarding it
to me? My browser is apparently too stupid to find or read the post.


Thanks.

**mershats((at))mindspring((dot))com**

The JoshMan

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May 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/4/97
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Here's the article. TJM

"Coming from a strip joint in Las Vegas, I asked a cab driver for a place
where some contact occurs between the patrons and the dancers. He took
us to Thee Place, off Saraha, near commercial drive..in a shopping
center about 1/mile from the Hilton. The cover to get in was $25. There
2 attractive female entertainers told us about how we would enjoy the
spa, massage and hot tub, and afterwards, we would adjourn to private
quarters. They couldnt tell us what happens in the private quarters, but
gave the impression that some sexual contact/nudity was offered.

They directed us to a male bartender who told us about $150 and $200
packages. They said that they couldnt describe what happened in the
"private areas" but that we would not be disappointed. The female
attendants kept on telling us that they couldnt let us touch them or
they couldnt get in the hot tub with us, that was reserved for the
private areas. Well when we got to the private areas, they demanded
additional tips ($500 or more, recommended!). We were broke but coughed
up another $200..as they built us up with anticipation...and of
course..all we got is a little singing and dancing to the songs on the
radio. These girls were good. They really had us believing.

Please spread the word to boycott this place!!!!

-a pathetic loser, down about 400

pathetic loser is not my e-mail address. Hope you dont mind"

idleeric

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May 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/7/97
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Tom Avery wrote:
>
> naked...@aol.com (NakedGirl9) wrote:
>
> > I was wondering what are the highest & lowest known prices for lap
> >dances and where? I'm sure there is quite a range and I bet some of you
> >guys have enough SC notches in your travel belts to give a little feedback
> >on this topic.
>
> >Kiss-kiss,
> >~Mandy~
>
> There is another club, I just remembered about 45min. east of
> Cleveland. It is a nude juice bar. M-W I think the nude laps are $5,
> and Th-S they are $10. Just a couple girls dancing in a small town
> joint.
>
> TA

Riverport Tavern in Sarnia Ontario may be the discount champ .... $5 CDN
nude tableside dances that are far better mileage wise than $20US VIP
topless airdances now prevalent in many Detroit clubs (yeah, same time
last year) For $10CDN, an I'll Rub you Til I'm Raw VIP dance. Quality of
dancers is variable but if Yvette is there, you'll get your $$s worth.


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