{ASS} Mexican Hairless - Preface ... NEW PRED/WhitmanSampler (Essay, NOT the story)
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This post is an Essay, it is NOT fiction. The first sections of the
story "Mexican Hairless" follow in successive posts. If you don't
want to read an essay, skip to the story NOW! This Preface deals
extensively with the themes presented in the story "Mexican Hairless"
as well as my other "racially-based" fiction. I am also breaking
tradition and posting this non-fiction piece in alt.sex.stories.d
(where by right it properly belongs), although given the somewhat
inflammatory style of my rhetoric I'm sure my arguments (valid or
invalid as they may be) will soon be lost beneath a din of politically
correct saber rattling. I wholeheartedly invite any response or
debate on this topic from ANYONE on either forum (ASSD or ASSD), or
via e-mail pr...@altavista.net if you wish. Warning - I am NEVER
ashamed of my opinions, and I make NO apologies for my use of language
.. EVER!
The Preface to Mexican Hairless is the sole property of PREDATOR
Press, international. The quoted selections from e-mail have been
edited for content to insure anonymity. In case anyone is wondering,
my analysis of Latino culture is based on my first-hand experience
playing trombone with various Latin and Salsa bands since I was 13
years old (that's over 20 years for those of you counting on your
fingers). This is also where I have picked up a decent working
knowledge of Latino slang (Puerto Rican mostly) and a smattering of
Spanish. If you notice any glaring grammatical mistakes in my
Hispanic phraseology (especially in the following story posts), please
feel free to contact me and correct my usage. I always strive to make
my work as accurate as possible.
Preface to Mexican Hairless or
The Story Within the Story
Hola Pred fans:
The following novella, Mexican Hairless, was inspired by the
e-mails of one of my cybersluts, a thoroughly compliant piece of salsa
snatch named Teresa. I have Teresa to thank for bringing me out of
hibernation and being my Muse of sorts. Over the last several months,
not even Dee, my nigger-slave-wife, has been able to berate, nag
and/or goad me back into writing. Teresa revived something in me,
however, something I'd thought I'd lost - the ability to tell a
somewhat decent story.
What interested me most about Teresa's correspondence is what
always fascinates me when I converse with readers - especially female
readers. In this instance, the reader was not only a woman, but also
a woman of color. A Latina PRED fan? Surely this has to be some kind
of put on ..
Tell me about it. I was suspicious from the onset. Then
again, I have received over a hundred letters in the last several
years from fans who claim to be women of color - black, brown, red,
yellow. They all confess to me that they crave the exact type of
racial sadism I promote in many of my stories. They fantasize about
strong, cruel, dominant White Masters, the very same men they hate and
abhor in their real, day-to-day lives. Granted, some of these
correspondents may be men (or women) assuming alternate identities.
That's all part of the cyber-sex game. BUT, who's to say that at
least some of them aren't on the level.
I mean, is this scenario - a colored cunt wanting a white man
to TAKE her and dominate her -- really so surprising? The research of
Nancy Friday, et al. has clearly demonstrated that the Rape Fantasy
motif among women is so universal as to be almost archetypal. Those
who deny this unspoken urge, deny a large majority of what it means to
be a woman. Sorry, ladies, but that's the truth buried at the center
of your collective subconscious. You can deny it, but it still owns
you.
Is it really any wonder, then, that women of color experience
these same unspoken desires, and in significant quantity? I know from
personal experience with my own slave-wife Dee and the other colored
slaves we play with that the black/white/dominance/submissive dynamic
cuts both ways. Many colored women desire domineering white men in
exactly the same way that white women fantasize about tall, DARK and
handsome Masters. Interestingly, whereas the Interracial Rape Fantasy
colors much of the research compiled by Nancy Friday, Shere Hite,
Alfred Kinsey and other sex researchers, their work has focused solely
on the politically correct aspect of these "dark dreams" - white women
succumbing to the savagery of "big black dicks."
But what of the other 70 % of the world's female population -
the niggers, spics, gooks, camel-cunts, dot-heads, squaws, etc? Amid
the darkest shadows of their own souls, do they also concoct the same
fantasies of "rape," delivered upon their helpless bodies by the "evil
other," in this case the much-vilified White Man? Am I the ONLY white
man who has EVER managed to stumble across the ONLY collection of
dark-skinned sluts thirsting to submit themselves to a White Regime of
racial and sexual supremacy?
At first glance, the answers to these questions seem obvious.
Of course colored cunts fantasize about "rape" by the "evil White
other." They are women, aren't they ..? And the Interracial Rape
Fantasy has been acknowledged, even by the most arch-feminists, as a
universal archetype shared by females the world over. But such thorny
issues are never as clear-cut as the first appear, especially in this
day and age of political correctness and white male bashing.
Logically, the colored cunt wanting to be BROKEN beneath a
hard white prick is analogous to the popular daydream of white females
longing for savage Black Rape. All cunts conjure up images of being
TAKEN by the demonized Other because ONLY in this way - at the hands
of an alien "evil" - can the experience by called TRUE RAPE. The cunt
is TAKEN against her will and forced to breed with the Other, thereby
abdicating all her personal responsibility for any emotional and
biological reactions that may occur while she is being BROKEN. (Note -
The observant among you will undoubtedly see this same motif running
throughout the rampant claims of men and women insisting they have
been abducted by "aliens" and subjected to sexual assault and
experimentation. This is Rape by the Other taken to its nth degree.
Just food for thought. But I digress ..).
In light of what we know about the Interracial Rape Fantasy,
we can't help but recall the Tawana Brawly "incident" of years back.
Essentially, her woeful albeit totally fictitious tale can be summed
as: "Those filthy white bastards gang-raped and humiliated me! It
wasn't my fault. You know how those white bastards are! They are
animals .. pure evil. I was helpless. The white bastards RAPED me.
I hate them .. hate them all!" Was this merely a convenient excuse
for hanging out all night against her parents' wishes (as many
abnormal psychologists in the media theorized), or was it something
more? The public exorcism, perhaps, of very real adolescent fantasy
demons - Interracial Rape by the White Other.
How many other young colored cunts have such similar
unspeakable thoughts? I'd venture to say the overwhelming majority,
or at least a number comparable to the amount of teenage white cunts
who rub their pussies at night to the fevered images of taking on a
gang of abusive, stone-cold, big-dicked niggers.
One difference exists between these white cunts and their
colored sisters, however. White cunts are more empowered than
darker-skinned sluts, and many of these "pink fuck-pigs" wear their
miscegenation like badges of honor. You've heard them gloat about the
size of the black dicks that have rutted about in their stretched-out
shit chutes. You've heard them wax poetic about "going black and
never going back," as if their ability to be used as a bag of white
trash by sociopathic savages makes them somehow the sexual superiors
of their more timid peers.
For the white-trash slut, enslaving herself to black dick is
all about thumbing her nose in the face of "daddy" and the rest of the
pale patriarchy that's been telling her what to do her whole life.
Race mixing can be viewed as an act of defiance, then, both by the
white slut and her Black Rapist/Master. In "Soul on Ice," Eldridge
Cleaver defined interracial rape - niggers dicking white cunts - as a
"political act." Likewise, the poetry of Amiri Baraka/LeRoi Jones
deals with the same theme, often in graphic detail. Scholar Calvin
Hernton devoted an entire thesis, "Sex and Racism in America" to this
social dynamic - black dick, white pussy. Today, the hardcore lyrics
of Gangstah Rappers are filled with allusions to this phallic
phenomenon.
At the opposite end of this circular spectrum, we have the
white racial "theorists," phallocratic philosophers such as the late
irate Theodore Bilbo, William Pierce (author of The Turner Diaries and
Hunter) and Tom Metzger (Race & Reason). Nazis, Kluxers and Christian
Identity preachers have consciously made the pornographic "nigger
rapist" a boogey man for the ages. They can't quit talking about him.
He fills their every word, strides through their every sermon.
When I read the white racist's ranting condemnation of "race
mixers," "race traitors" and "gene polluters," I can't help but
envision a circle jerk of inbred yokels in white sheets, thumping
their bibles with one hand and their puny, white worm dicks with the
other. The classic film "Birth of a Nation" is a celluloid testament
to the extremes of white sexual paranoia. At the other extreme, but
preaching to same choir nonetheless, are the countless cookie-cutter
videos found in any affluent WHITE dirty book store - "Make Me Your
White-Trash Gangbang Slut," "Blacks on Blonde" .. you get the picture.
White men -- both card-carrying bigots and limp-wristed,
milquetoast liberals -- are obsessed with the image of animalistic
black men humping their prize porcelain possessions. Vast amounts of
White money are spent annually to see huge black donkey dicks tearing
asunder the tender pink orifices of "daddy's" darling wife and baby
daughters. I'm not surprised in the least.
You see, as men - not just White Men but ALL men - animalistic
rape is what we want to see. This is how we define Sex: Sex = Rape,
the hunt and the kill, violence and defilement, the more brutal and
beastly the better. Since it is illegal for White Men to watch their
women being sodomized by a Clydesdale, maul-fucked by a grizzly bear,
rutted by a hog, slammed by an orangutan or knotted by a Doberman,
they are forced to settle for the next closest rung on the
evolutionary ladder -- niggers.
White men compulsively watch "Black on white" videos for the
same reasons white women fantasize about getting rally-raped by Louis
Farrakhan and his Million Man March. Once again, it is the demonized
Other - in this case the nigger -- who "rapes", "gangbangs" and
defiles the white man's most coveted possession, the pure pink flesh
of white cunt.
Alas, our damsel in distress is just too weak to resist the
BLACK savagery that overwhelms her (yeah, right). Meanwhile, the
white man can only stand by helplessly and watch, tears in eyes,
perhaps, but cock in hand, thrilling to her every grunt, groan and cry
while huge, beastly, subhuman dicks split her belly open and gut her
like a freshly killed gazelle. Thus, when the white man sees the
white slut reacting favorably even hungrily towards her dark
assailants, he can comfort his tortured soul with the lie that this is
neither his nor her fault. He tells himself the white slut's howling
climaxes are merely the product of her biology taking over, her
survival instinct kicking in. She is helpless to resist the huge
black dicks TAKING her, slamming inside her, and pounding the orgasms
out of her ravaged cunt -- against her will, of course.
Yes, these are the lies ignorant white men tell themselves in
the dark of $.25 video arcades while they fill countless crumpled
Kleenexes and glory-boys' mouth with their impotent pink lust.
Pathetic, really. The limp-wristed white liberal has no idea why he
is so turned on by animalistic BLACK Rape because he refuses to
recognize and release the animal that resides inside him, the animal
that wishes to see pretty pink things torn apart by packs of wild
dogs. Even if he finally does accept his own inner PREDATOR in this
regard, he may never be able to admit that the converse equation is
also true - that he himself wishes to hunt the colored cunt just as
the nigger hunts the white pussy.
Ironically, amid the relentless onslaught of Nigger Dick/white
slut-mania, our society is strangely reticent when it comes to
addressing the other side of the sexual-racial coin. For some reason,
we can accept that the white woman desires "rape" by the demonized
black "other," and even that the white man desires to see it. But
suggest that the opposite may be true - that colored cunts desire
"rape" by strong white men who, in turn, fantasize about subduing
these dark-skinned fuck beasts -- and you are quickly labeled "sick,"
"racist" and "hate-mongering."
Still, I am asking you all. What about the nigger sluts, the
spics, the gooks, the camel-cunts, the dot-heads? Certainly, if they
are truly HUMAN women, they must entertain the same fantasies of
"other rape" that have proven to be a well-documented obsession among
white cunts. This postulate, in turn, begs the question the white man
is dying to ask, but is too terrified to voice.
Why, in this so-called all-inclusive global village of
cultural relativism. do we glorify Black on white "rape" yet FAIL to
recognize the colored cunt's similar desires for White Rape? Aside
from TT Boy's "Black Street Hookers" video series, where is our
popular cultural acknowledgment of White on colored "rape?" Why are
the REAL desires of white men and colored cunts all but ignored in our
art, literature, and everyday social discourse?
The answer is simple. Shame. While the combined forces of
our media and educational system ENCOURAGE the white slut to thumb her
nose at "daddy's" patriarchy and worship at the altar of the Almighty
Black Phallus, the same forces BRAINWASH colored cunts to go against
their own similar instincts. While the white slut is allowed free
reign to surrender before the Black "rapist," her societal
step-sister, the dark-skinned mongrel fuck beast, is instructed to
deny and be ashamed of her White Master fantasies.
Unlike white sluts, if a colored fuck pig acts on her White
Master fantasies and thumbs her nose at her "daddy," she is hardly
empowering herself. In fact, in many cultures - camel-jockeys being
the most noteworthy - when the dark-skinned slut follows her natural
instincts and submits beneath a stern yet benevolent white cock, she
can suddenly find herself ostracized, mutilated and often ritually
slain. Of course, these extreme courses of action are taken in order
to purify her "fallen" body while simultaneously restoring dignity to
her family, her religion or her race. Once the camel-cunt has been
"cured," the stain of her sin is completely removed. No one is
permitted to speak ill of her or the family again. Thus, when
investigators interrogate the family men who murdered her, they can -
in all good conscience - maintain that their daughter or sister is
without sin, thus they have no motive for the slaying.
Lest I be accused of Ay-rab bashing, let me state that
camel-jockeys aren't the only dick-fisted butchers who "honor kill"
their race traitorous daughters and sisters. Gypsy's kill any
daughter of the tribe who fraternizes outside their inbred clan.
Gooks routinely commit infanticide on mixed-breed babies and shun the
slant-eyed sluts who ride white dick. The same goes for the noble Red
Man and his squaw sluts. Similarly, young nigger cunts who date white
boys are regularly beaten by fellow "sisters" at the behest of enraged
"brothers" and "black daddies."
Not surprisingly, all these colored men fail to see any irony
in the whole situation. For example, the nigger wants to rape the
WHITE pussy, and the white cunt, in turn, willingly wants to be TAKEN
by the mythical big black dick. So why is it so "sick," "twisted" and
"wrong" when whitey expresses the desire to TAKE the nigger's sister?
Why should the black bitch be considered sick, twisted and wrong when
she willingly submits her body to the adoration of hard Aryan cock? I
mean, what's good for the goose, right ..?
However, this confusing picture is not solely drawn in blacks
and whites. A whole range of colors comprises the human rainbow, and
each of these hues lies in contrast to a demonized Other. The
camel-jockeys have their kikes, the Greeks their Turks, the Irish
their British, and so forth. In my native country, the good old U.S.
of A, located somewhere between the extremes of the black/white
conundrum lies the hot-blooded Latina cunt -- preferably on her back
or squatting on all fours with her fat, juicy ass stuck in the air.
It is one such Latina -- TAKEN, BROKEN and SUBJUGATED beneath the Iron
Will of a self-actualized White Master -- who explores "other rape" in
the following novella, "Mexican Hairless."
So, perhaps it would be better to move away from black and
white for a moment to talk about brown, more specifically brown and
white, Latina and White, spic and gringo.
From a very early age, Latinas are trained to be submissive to
their Men, aka the Latinos or male of the spic species. At the same
time, the Latina is indoctrinated in the belief that loyalty to the
Latino ideal equals loyalty to her people, her race.
Conversely, Latinas are taught that the White Man cannot to be
trusted. Latinas learn that the White Man is cruel and merciless, a
born rapist who will promise a brown-skinned girl love only to get
inside her pussy, then discard her when he finds a "good white girl."
The only thing a White Man is good for is his money. If the Latina
can take the White Man's money without giving her heart, she is
considered a credit to her race, even if she is nothing more than a
cleaning woman or a whore. In this way, Latinos have successfully
created the myth of the "evil white other" to control the Latina in
much the same way sexually insecure white men have demonized the
savage nigger through the annals of urban and suburban folklore.
Nonetheless, we can always find some kernel of truth in any
stereotypical myth, and true-life tales of white boys and men "raping"
and "abusing" their Latina housekeepers, maids and nannies are legion.
Of course, these actions must be labeled as "rape." What
brown-skinned fuck-beast in her right mind could actually DESIRE a
hard white prick shoved down her throat, or splitting her plump,
caramel ass?
Doesn't Latino wisdom state categorically that every white man
is "evil," no more than a sweet-talking wolf in sheep's clothing?
Every Latina "knows" this, just as every white girl KNOWS every nigger
is a big-dicked, animal. Given the opportunity, the White Man will
always TAKE the brown pussy because it is in his demonized nature.
Sure, the white man may begin weaving kind words, but he will
ultimately resort to force in pursuit of his prey. It is in his
demonic nature to "rape," and if the Latina lets her guard down even
one instant she will be helpless to resist him. Should our Latina
heroine object or attempt to fight off this white assault, the demon
will flex his privileged muscles and coerce her into yielding. The
stiff-necked Latina will find herself fired from her job, or worse yet
deported.
These are the TRUTHS as taught by Latino fathers and brothers,
and they are reinforced in the Hispanic subculture. The White Man
will invariably use and abuse the brown-skinned girl, and when this
happens it is her duty as a proud Latina to "hate" every last minute
of this "rape."
These lessons are not only taught among Latino families, but
also reinforced via the Social Studies curricula taught in our public
schools. Christopher Columbus, the quintessential White Monster, has
been defined in numerous elementary school textbooks as the
"mastermind of genocide," an apocalyptic Beast on par with Hitler
himself. Likewise the careers of all white heroes - Jefferson, Sir
Richard Burton, even Aristotle -- are tainted with charges of racism,
rape, robbery and genocide. Given that these white "heroes" - the
Caucasian Race's "best and brightest," so to speak -- are such
despicable beasts, it only logically follows that ALL White Men are
similarly evil. This, in turn, explains why we have so much war,
murder, robbery and rape in the world. At least that's what the
schools teach us. So it must be right .. right ..?
It is within this "educational" context that our youngsters
are selectively socialized from a very early age. When a white girl
plays with only black boys, she is officially praised as being an
enlightened "bridge builder" between the races. Although the true
situation is readily apparent, the "educational" authority turns a
blind eye to what is really happening. In reality, our "enlightened"
little white girl is serving her apprenticeship. In a few short
years, she will become a shameless white slut enslaved to black dick.
By the time she passes out of this life, gallons of hot nigger sperm
will have been dumped inside her. Subsequently, her womb will have
been rendered into nothing more than a stretched-out white trashbag
bursting with illegitimate mongrel mud babies.
These white sluts are, in fact, GIVEN to the nigger boys to
appease them, to make them more docile. They are payment on a debt
that liberal whites believe they still owe the nigger. Besides, white
male teachers and principals enjoy looking at little white girls being
turned to white sluts before their very eyes. At night at home, these
pillars of the white community jack off to images of rosy-cheeked
little Sally Sue sobbing in orgasmic agony as she rides the "night
train" with every nigger boy on the basketball team.
If only this same attitude also prevailed when dealing with
the flipside of interracial teenage couplings. Unfortunately, for
white boys it does not. Invariably, when a young white boy shows
interest in a young colored cunt, the school immediately alerts
parents and teachers alike that some kind of "harassment" is going
down. The white boy is obviously using his "status" as a privileged
white male to inflict some kind sexual imperialism on the third-world
continent beneath the dark-skinned girl's dress.
On the other hand, it is perfectly "okay" for white cunts and
big black dicks to go at it with impunity. The media - music, films,
TV, magazines -- tells us this is "all right." When a big black dick
slices the white meat, it isn't "rape" per se, but rather a
long-oppressed brother breaking the yoke of centuries-old bondage and
sticking it to whitey. Offer a story, song or film where a colored
cunt bows at the feet of a virile White Man, however, and it's
immediately branded "hateful."
Leading this counterattack against White Male "sexual
aggression" is the collegiate, white-cunt, feminist elite. While
these "feminists" are busy laying miles of thick black pipe,
collectively thumbing their noses at "daddy" and the proverbial
patriarchy, this white-slut-elite is also doing everything in its
power to see that colored sluts do not enjoy any of this same
privilege. Ironically, in the same breath with which the white-cunt
feminist trumpets her colored sister's "equality" and "dignity," she
also denies dark-skinned cunts the right to indulge the universal
female urge and need - "rape" by the demonized other.
Within the scheme of our society, white women are allowed -
some may even say encouraged -- to pursue sexual humiliation and
slavery at the hands of the mythical "big black dick." By the same
token, niggers can pursue white sluts solely because of their skin
color, parade them about as in-your-face trophies to all the white
"daddies," and these actions never once warrant a charge of racism.
Ask one of these white sluts or niggers if their obvious racial
preferences make them "racist," and they will bite your head off. As
a white man, you're the "racist" for even suggesting such a thing.
And herein lies the most confusing, contradictory element of
the Race/Sex/Rape Fantasy. Niggers and white sluts can carry on like
the "Story of O" until the cows come home, and no one bats an eyelash.
But when a white man desires to racially subjugate, humiliate and
dominate a colored cunt, he becomes another Hitler.
Funny, no one ever asks the dark-skinned fuck beast what she
wants. Why is it so inconceivable to imagine that a colored cunt may
want the exact same thing a white slut wants, i.e. racial and sexual
domination by the demonized Other? Why can only White Women have
"rape fantasies" where they are TAKEN and subjugated by the Other
solely because of the color of their skin?
I started seriously asking myself these questions in my youth
when I lost my virginity at 11-years old to a sixteen-year-old black
girl. After that initial encounter, I started fucking colored cunts
on a more-than-regular basis, quickly finding out that they responded
quite favorably to domination with a racial flavoring. Of course, I
didn't start out with full-blown verbal abuse right away. I had some
"white guilt" issues of my own to work out, but I eased into the role
gradually. When I found that calling an African-American girl a
"Black slut" while I drilled her ass got a good response, I eventually
upped the ante to "nigger cunt" .. and to rave reviews I might add.
Emboldened by my successes with nigger cunts, I started
branching out, using "taboo" phrases for the other breeds of colored
cunts I BROKE - taco, spic, gook, slanty-eyed slut, dot-headed dick
ditch, hairy-faced camel-cunt. I think you get the idea. I also took
the time to read and study the cultures of the various mud sluts I was
banging. This research enabled me to get inside their tiny pea brains
and make my verbal abuse really TOUCH the dark, hidden corners of
their subhuman souls. To properly train a slave, she must HURT before
she can be HEALED by her Master's WILL. I soon discovered that a few
HARD words and phrases timed just before her orgasm can thoroughly
ingrain a sense of helplessness and inferiority into a colored cunt's
feeble, fuck-ravaged brain.
All this study and practice was leading up to something,
something big, something VERY BIG! My expertise at racial humiliation
and domination allowed me to attract, BREAK and finally enslave the
cunt of my dreams, my nigger slave-wife, Dee. Dee is the
quintessential example of the colored cum-dumpster, born and bred to
serve her true White Master, or in her case her "Massah." The bond
between my nigger-slave-wife and myself is eternal and unbreakable.
Yes, we each have our own independent pursuits and diversions, but
when it really comes down to it Dee has only one TRUE Master, and I
have only one TRUE slave.
That I can help others - men and cunts -- explore these dark,
unspoken shadows is both intriguing and rewarding. However, I am not
so arrogant as to try possessing every willing soul that comes my way.
Truthfully, I only seek to open the door for these lost souls. Once
they begin the journey, they need to make their own Way. Each man or
cunt needs to find his or her own one TRUE Master or slave. I can
only help the seeker take the first step. Every soul must endure its
own Odyssey before it arrives home.
Which leads me up to the present day, and the first letter I
received from Teresa (I bet you thought I'd forgotten the beginning of
this little essay). In reality, Teresa's letter was no different than
a hundred other such e-mails I've received in the last couple years.
Teresa was but one of many colored cunts fascinated by the
no-holds-barred, blatantly racist narrative voice I choose for many of
my stories. Teresa's response, in this case to my story "Soft Tacos"
was typical, but yet somehow different than the rest:
Pred,
As a very proud professional Latina, I have to admit you're a
very good story writer. When I was starting to read your story, "Soft
Tacos," I was enraged. I couldn't wait to e-mail you and tell you a
thing or two. By the time I finished reading it,( I'm a little
ashamed to admit) I had to go to take a very long bath to relieve
myself. I have seen other stories by you and will read them also.
Keep up the good job.
Her honesty touched something in me, and I began to toy with
an idea I'd been mulling over for a few months. The next thing I
knew, I was beginning a story, a new Whitman Sampler story. I was
writing again. Her next e-mail quickly followed:
Hi Pred,
I didn't expect a reply, but I'm glad you did. I'm glad I can
speak of these things at least on the web. Racial humiliation is a
topic I would never touch in real life, out of shame, perhaps. But
it's a real TURN ON for me at least in the depths of my mind. The
reason I liked your story so much was because it featured a Hispanic
girl serving a white master, which has always been a fantasy for me,
ever since I came to America. That's why I dated only white men and
still do even though I'm married to a Latino man. Unfortunately, none
of the white men seem to think about this racial humiliation you talk
about. I was raised by a very strict family, very religious, so I was
brought up to be ashamed of my sexual feelings, let alone wanting to
be "racially humiliated". But at the same time, like most Latinas, I
was brought up to be submissive. Now I'm 33 years old and try to put
up a front of pride and independence. So it's hard for me to just
come up to my partners and speak to them of my fantasies. Besides I
only want to act out these feelings with someone that feels them, too,
not with someone that's just doing it because I want to.
I hope I've been of some help and you are able to write more
stories such as "Soft Tacos". Please feel free to e-mail me anytime
you want. I'll be glad to let you know my feelings and opinions. Once
again I thank you for having spiced up my sexuality, thanks ........
Feeling that she would be interested in what I was writing, I
sent her a sample from the story's prologue, and she responded,
exploring the theme further:
Dear Pred,
I just got your e-mail and read your latest creation. I
really liked the set up. It sets up our friend "Teresa" for a big
fall, which would make her humiliation even more sensual and
degrading. I also think that many professional Latinas would identify
with her beating the odds personally. That poem she wrote -- believe
it or not -- is pretty much what -- in one way or another -- many
Latinas think, me included.
Everybody expects us to be either maids (which btw I was for a
time), nannies...etc. And it is this feeling of inferiority which
pushes us to succeed. When I talk to my daughters, my nieces or their
friends, I try to inspire in them this need to succeed and not become
stereotyped, to beat the odds. Which is more or less what I think
Teresa Perez would do, which makes me wonder -- How deep into a
Latina's psychology have you gone into?
The racist from the story seems like a very elaborate
character, animal passions, highly intelligent, and with a very dark
soul. I'm curious what he will come up with. I look forward to
reading more of this story and giving you my opinion if you let me.
About experiencing my fantasy any further, well, what can I
say? I have to accept your offer and accept. This spic is smart
enough to know this offer won't be easy to find again. It's not every
day someone like you, with your experience, intelligence and balls,
offers a pretty much sexually bored wife the chance to explore her
darkest fantasy.
I responded in kind. I was on my way. The creative drought
was over. I was writing again, and I haven't stopped since.
I have included this rather lengthy Preface because many
readers have asked me how my stories develop, and I felt this would
allow me the perfect opportunity to illuminate not only how BUT why I
write the way that I do. Thanks for listening. Now on with the story
..
DrSpin
(a hell of a lot, all of which I have snipped. Read it yourself.)
Jesus!
The USS Missouri is out of mothballs and steaming in these waters.
I wish I could write like that.
I don't wish to write *that*. But I wish I could write *like* that.
DrSpin
pr...@altavista.net
>Jesus!
Well, I've never answered to that name before, but I guess I
could start <grin>.
>The USS Missouri is out of mothballs and steaming in these waters.
At least you didn't say the Arizona (heh heh .. for anyone who
doesn't get that, look it up and blame your high school history
teachers).
>I wish I could write like that.
And I wish I could write like Bronwen -- who, by the way, is
probably so angry at me right now for my little essay that she won't
speak to me again for a few weeks until she realizes that -- despite
the fact I horrify/disgust her -- she really did miss me during my
hiatus .. didn't you Bronwen ..? <wink>
>I don't wish to write *that*. But I wish I could write *like* that.
A fine distinction and an unexpected compliment from a
respected source. I guess I'll have to scrap the "pearls before
swine" barrage I was ready to fire off. <look of genuine surprise>
PRED (cruise missles locked and loaded)
Father Ignatius
pr...@altavista.net wrote:
> On 26 Mar 2000 06:02:08 -0800, DrSpin <drs...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> >Jesus!
>
> Well, I've never answered to that name before, but I guess I
> could start <grin>.
<cough>It was an ejaculatory orison (you should pardon the expression).
> >The USS Missouri is out of mothballs and steaming in these waters.
>
> At least you didn't say the Arizona (heh heh .. for anyone who
> doesn't get that, look it up and blame your high school history
> teachers).
_I_ got it but I'm only a benighted foreigner. Point is, did Kristen?
> And I wish I could write like Bronwen -- who, by the way, is
> probably so angry at me right now for my little essay that she won't
> speak to me again for a few weeks until she realizes that -- despite
> the fact I horrify/disgust her -- she really did miss me during my
> hiatus .. didn't you Bronwen ..? <wink>
Is _that_ a troll?
> >I don't wish to write *that*. But I wish I could write *like* that.
>
> A fine distinction and an unexpected compliment from a
> respected source. I guess I'll have to scrap the "pearls before
> swine" barrage I was ready to fire off. <look of genuine surprise>
Dare I suggest an "age before beuaty" substitution?<g>
> PRED (cruise missles locked and loaded)
This reminds me of a scene in "Good Omens" by Terry Pratchett and Neil
Gaiman. The American G-man got real tense in the English convent when
they heard there were missals on the premises.
--
"Father Ignatius" <FatherI...@hotmail.com>
...and gradually, when he found that his sensitive organ was really
grateful for those grim favours, he conferred them with a better grace.
Henry James, _Portrait_of_a_Lady_
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pr...@altavista.net
<fatheri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>In article <38de5b93...@news.cle.ameritech.net>,
>pr...@altavista.net wrote:
>> At least you didn't say the Arizona (heh heh .. for anyone who
>> doesn't get that, look it up and blame your high school history
>> teachers).
Father Iggy replied:
>_I_ got it but I'm only a benighted foreigner. Point is, did Kristen?
Foreigners tend to know more about US History than we
nativists know-nothings.
>
>> And I wish I could write like Bronwen -- who, by the way, is
>> probably so angry at me right now for my little essay that she won't
>> speak to me again for a few weeks until she realizes that -- despite
>> the fact I horrify/disgust her -- she really did miss me during my
>> hiatus .. didn't you Bronwen ..? <wink>
Father Iggy fired back:
>Is _that_ a troll?
I don't troll anyone. least of all Bronwen (then I really
would be the USS Arizona). I just miss the sound of her chastizing
Brit accent. Actually, she's my great unrequited love. Alas, woe is
me ... for I am the East and Bronwen is my super nova.
>This reminds me of a scene in "Good Omens" by Terry Pratchett and Neil
>Gaiman. The American G-man got real tense in the English convent when
>they heard there were missals on the premises.
When I lived in the UK for a year, Sheffield to be exact, I
was shopping at one of the downtown department stores shortly after I
arrived and a sales clerk informed me that I could "see jumpers on the
third floor." Of course, I ran up the stairs hoping I could spot one
of the poor bastards as he took his plunge ...
(Those of you who don't get this, ask Bronwen or any other
local limey on the group, and they'll patiently explain that we
Americans have a different word for everything!).
PRED (remembering an encounter at the chemist's with a man looking for
sticky plasters)
Father Ignatius
pr...@altavista.net wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 19:50:11 GMT, Father Ignatius
> <fatheri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <38de5b93...@news.cle.ameritech.net>,
> >pr...@altavista.net wrote:
> Foreigners tend to know more about US History than we
> nativists know-nothings.
That's seriously very, very sad. And dangerous. More on this later,
from the heart, in Souvie's "Failing Education System" thread.
> Brit accent. Actually, she's my great unrequited love. Alas, woe is
Get in the queue, buster.
> PRED (remembering an encounter at the chemist's with a man looking for
> sticky plasters)
Oh, my ears and whiskers. The mind boggles. Rightpondians still
call "erasers" "rubbers"--contraction of "India Rubber", from which the
pre-plastic product was formed. A school friend of mine once asked an
American exchange student in class, "Can I borrow your rubber for a
minute?" She smacked him. I wonder whether Hecate and Joyce would
feel this was proper and forgivable. Me, I think it's funny. I forget
whether or not he instantly dissolved the relationshp. I would like to
hope that they ended better friends.
Joyce Melton
>American exchange student in class, "Can I borrow your rubber for a
>minute?" She smacked him. I wonder whether Hecate and Joyce would
>feel this was proper and forgivable. Me, I think it's funny. I forget
>whether or not he instantly dissolved the relationshp. I would like to
>hope that they ended better friends.
I think it's funny too. :)
Joyce
DrSpin
The pesky priest is correct. A rubber is an eraser. Of course it is.
Let me go further. There is the well-known advertising jingle here
for a famous Australian beer: 'I can feel a Fourex coming on.'
Fourex is a beer. In a yellow can. I grew up on it.
DrSpin
Bronwen
<fatheri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>In article <38de5b93...@news.cle.ameritech.net>,
>pr...@altavista.net wrote:
>> On 26 Mar 2000 06:02:08 -0800, DrSpin <drs...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Jesus!
>>
>> Well, I've never answered to that name before, but I guess I
>> could start <grin>.
>
><cough>It was an ejaculatory orison (you should pardon the expression).
>
>> >The USS Missouri is out of mothballs and steaming in these waters.
>>
>> At least you didn't say the Arizona (heh heh .. for anyone who
>> doesn't get that, look it up and blame your high school history
>> teachers).
>
>_I_ got it but I'm only a benighted foreigner. Point is, did Kristen?
>
>> And I wish I could write like Bronwen -- who, by the way, is
>> probably so angry at me right now for my little essay that she won't
>> speak to me again for a few weeks until she realizes that -- despite
>> the fact I horrify/disgust her -- she really did miss me during my
>> hiatus .. didn't you Bronwen ..? <wink>
>
>Is _that_ a troll?
No, it's not a troll. Pred's a mate of mine. Spot of mutual
appreciation. He's very talented. He writes polemic. Great big purple
polemic. And truly revolting stories. Taking it seriously is missing
the point.
Though I don't normally associate Pred with grammatical errors.
"Gypsy's" instead of "Gypsies"... Dear, oh dear... How are the nightie
fallen. <g>
I've only got one question, so far. What's a dot-head?
It's all a bit weird for me. It's not that I don't see there's an
issue, it's just not my issue. Seems to be a big American
preoccupation. We don't go in much for inter-racial. Not that the UK
isn't racist, it's just not a major theme in our erotica. Not since
the Victorians, and then it was Arabs. Sheikhs and white slavery -
harems and so forth. Yum.
But modern Brits don't seem that focussed on interracial sex as a hot
button. Commercial porn works on what sells, so you can kinda work out
what people *really* like as opposed to what they say they like from
what's being advertised. And brit porn doesn't seem to see interracial
as one of the major turn-ons. Maybe it's not quite as 'forbidden'
here.
Though the post has triggered a memory of those slavery novels that
were popular when I was at school. There was a whole series. Breeding
slaves, uprisings in which all the Southern Belles got raped and all
that stuff. We all read them, increasingly curly-edged.
I think his general drift is probably pretty accurate. Being
overpowered is the most common female fantasy, and - depending on the
role of race in the individual's consciousness - race can come into
it. Different countries too - for example, I have fantasies about
harems that wouldn't work in the this country because the police would
break the door down. Whereas if I set them in some unspecified and
glamorous environ where the police are part of the problem...
Though, as others have pointed out, it's amazing how the dominants in
my fantasies always do *exactly* what I want them to do, however
heartless they *seem*... <grin>
I still feel uneasy about the impact of what Pred writes - I know
wouldn't want to be him when/if they find spunk-stained print-outs of
his diatribes in the apartment of some mass-murder supremacist
redneck. I think he could use his force to better effect.
But you could say the same about some of the nc, the snuff, the pedo
writers. And I do.
Bronwen
Bronwen
>PRED (remembering an encounter at the chemist's with a man looking for
>sticky plasters)
Sure that wasn't sticking plasters? We have them. Honest.
Bronwen
Jacques LeBlanc
> No, it's not a troll. Pred's a mate of mine. Spot of mutual
> appreciation. He's very talented. He writes polemic. Great big purple
> polemic. And truly revolting stories. Taking it seriously is missing
> the point.
>
> Though I don't normally associate Pred with grammatical errors.
> "Gypsy's" instead of "Gypsies"... Dear, oh dear... How are the nightie
> fallen. <g>
Jacques grimaces, tosses back a glass of whatever he's drinking, and
hurls it into the fireplace (if you don't get the reference, go visit
alt.callahans).
> I've only got one question, so far. What's a dot-head?
South Asian--like the line in "Good Will Hunting:" "Indian Indian, not
American Indian--dots, not feathers."
Later,
Jacques
--
"A fantasy is not even a *wish*, much less an act.
There is no such thing as a culpable or shameful
fantasy." -----Lady Sally McGee
pr...@altavista.net
<fatheri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>In article <38de9569...@news.cle.ameritech.net>,
>pr...@altavista.net wrote:
>> ... Actually, (Bronwen)'s my great unrequited love.
to which iggy rejoindered:
>Get in the queue, buster.
Isn't that techno-gimmick-wizard in the Bond films .. Q? Or
John Delancy's character on Star Trek .. Q? Anybody got a LINE on
that?
>> PRED (remembering an encounter at the chemist's with a man looking for
>> sticky plasters)
>
>Oh, my ears and whiskers. The mind boggles. Rightpondians still
>call "erasers" "rubbers"--contraction of "India Rubber", from which the
>pre-plastic product was formed. A school friend of mine once asked an
>American exchange student in class, "Can I borrow your rubber for a
>minute?" She smacked him. I wonder whether Hecate and Joyce would
>feel this was proper and forgivable. Me, I think it's funny. I forget
>whether or not he instantly dissolved the relationshp. I would like to
>hope that they ended better friends.
TRUE story -- While teaching in Sheffield (university) I was
correcting a first-year's grammar, insisting that she needed a
"period." No one told me the f--ing limeys called the f--ing thing a
"full stop!" I almost had my nuts tossed out of the U my first day on
the job. And, no, the girl and I didn't part "better friends." She
dropped my class the next day still insisting that I knew perfectly
well what I was saying. She even went to the ombudsman or whatever
the hell he was called. He was fairly skeptical of me, too. For once
I WASN'T harrassing someone and I got my teeth kicked in. Go figger
..
>"Father Ignatius" <FatherI...@hotmail.com>
>...and gradually, when he found that his sensitive organ was really
>grateful for those grim favours, he conferred them with a better grace.
>Henry James, _Portrait_of_a_Lady_
Umm .. Henry James's paragraph structure was absolutely awful.
Okay, I dig the whole POV revolution he masterminded, but come on ..
the boy needed an editor. His brother, too. Makes me dizzy just to
read them.
Pred (turning the screw)
Souvie
pr...@altavista.net wrote:
>On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:14:22 GMT, Father Ignatius
><fatheri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <38de9569...@news.cle.ameritech.net>,
>>pr...@altavista.net wrote:
>>> ... Actually, (Bronwen)'s my great unrequited love.
>
>to which iggy rejoindered:
>>Get in the queue, buster.
>
> Isn't that techno-gimmick-wizard in the Bond films ..
Q? Or
>John Delancy's character on Star Trek .. Q? Anybody got a LINE
on
>that?
Star Trek. John DeLancie did play "Q." Used to play on Days of
Our Lives as "Eugene," too.
-Souvie
(who knows too many trivial things <g>)
>Pred (turning the screw)
>
>
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pr...@altavista.net
wrote:
>Sure that wasn't sticking plasters? We have them. Honest.
That must have been it. I was in South Yorkshire, so give me
a break. The fact that I could even converse up there in the Peak
District should duly impress you. On the BBC's History of the English
Language series, the only dialect that needed subtitles was Yorkshire
.. not Gulla, not the African or Jamaican pidgin variations, but
Yorkshire! So I think your old hose-bag of monarch should knight me
for even being able to communicate with the local yokels of
Sheffield/Rotherham. You should have heard me trying to negotiate
with the curb crawlers on Broomhall Road (and, no, I'm not Peter
Sutcliffe <grin>).
Her -- "Ywanagbacktimiflat, luv?"
Me -- "How much?"
Her -- "Ygityafiftiquid, luv?"
Me -- "Listen, are you working or not?"
Her -- "Ynacopper, rya?"
Me -- Do I own a Helicopter? No, why do you need to know
that? Do most johns fly you off in a helicopter? Where the fuck
would they land a fucking helicopter?
Her -- "Dozey bastard .." Storms off.
That I did get the gist of. Scratching my head, walking off.
It could have been a great bit on the Young Ones.
Pred (who does miss steak and kidney pie, though)
pr...@altavista.net
wrote:
>No, it's not a troll. Pred's a mate of mine. Spot of mutual
>appreciation.
Just a spot?? Aw, you're gonna make me blush.
> He's very talented. He writes polemic. Great big purple
>polemic. And truly revolting stories. Taking it seriously is missing
>the point.
And so, too, is dismissing it as trash. <grin>
>Though I don't normally associate Pred with grammatical errors.
>"Gypsy's" instead of "Gypsies"... Dear, oh dear... How are the nightie
>fallen. <g>
OUCH! There is a silver lining, though. You actually read
far enough into my little missive to pick that error up. I AM
flattered beyond words.
>I've only got one question, so far. What's a dot-head?
Hindu women ornament their foreheads with a dot symbolizing
the third-eye chakra or some sort of nonsense. I used to know exactly
what it means, and when I write my Dothead story you can rest assured
I will have researched the matter thoroughly.
>It's all a bit weird for me. It's not that I don't see there's an
>issue, it's just not my issue. Seems to be a big American
>preoccupation. We don't go in much for inter-racial. Not that the UK
>isn't racist, it's just not a major theme in our erotica. Not since
>the Victorians, and then it was Arabs. Sheikhs and white slavery -
>harems and so forth. Yum.
You are, as always, correct. I did notice a lot of hostility
between white Brits and the Pakis, though. I also heard the term
"wog" bandied about the Frog & Parrot a lot (does anyone know if that
pub in Sheffiled UK is stil there? .. STRONGEST BEER I ever had).
The whole racial/sexual undercurrent was not nearly as strong. I was
also A LOT younger and not as tuned in to that whole scene as I am
now. The local video store did have a series of videos of Paki women
undressing while a white cameraman ordered them around in a very stern
voice. And that was 15 years ago now, so I'm not sure what the
racial/sexual barometer reads these days.
>Though the post has triggered a memory of those slavery novels that
>were popular when I was at school. There was a whole series. Breeding
>slaves, uprisings in which all the Southern Belles got raped and all
>that stuff. We all read them, increasingly curly-edged.
That stuff was all but pulled from US bookstores during the
1970s. They're collector's items now. You Brits never censored them,
though, because the issue was far removed from your shores by that
time. I remember still seeing them in the dirty book store in
Rotherham. I always meant to pick one up as a keepsake, but never got
around to it. Shame really ...
>I think his general drift is probably pretty accurate. Being
>overpowered is the most common female fantasy, and - depending on the
>role of race in the individual's consciousness - race can come into
>it. Different countries too - for example, I have fantasies about
>harems that wouldn't work in the this country because the police would
>break the door down. Whereas if I set them in some unspecified and
>glamorous environ where the police are part of the problem...
HA!! Well put.
>Though, as others have pointed out, it's amazing how the dominants in
>my fantasies always do *exactly* what I want them to do, however
>heartless they *seem*... <grin>
I say the same thing to my wife -- she gets all the
"attention", and I do all the work. So who has who trained? Slave my
cherry white ass. <grin>
>I still feel uneasy about the impact of what Pred writes - I know I
>wouldn't want to be him when/if they find spunk-stained print-outs of
>his diatribes in the apartment of some mass-murder supremacist
>redneck.
It won't happen <he says confidently>. The shitkickers hate
me just as much for my Black Male Dom/white slut stories as the PC
crowd does for my other flavors. At one point, three white
supremacist websites had bounties out for my head -- literally. Funny
thing is, one of them had this glowing review of "Black Muslim Gilrs
." posted at the same time. Then I guess someone with a modicum of
intellect REALLY read the story and my other work. I went from
Kindred to Race Traitor in a few short days. When they found out my
wife is black, they really started sending me the death threats and
e-mail viruses. Just another bunch of idiots who DON'T GET IT!
Meanwhile, I'm still a member in good standing with them under another
alias. If you all wonder where I do my research, it's in the
trenches. I'm also a leading black supremacist on the Tribe of Judah
site. It's all a game to me, and I just play it BETTER than everyone
else.
As for my work inspiring some lone nut case, there is always
that chance. I won't censor my writing to guard against that
possibility, though. You know my whole cliche'd Superman/Batman
analogy as it pertains to me and you, Bronwen. I fight my own way
with my own methods and my own rules. So far it's Pred 1000,
everybody else 0. I can always deal with the Jokers, I just hope
there's not a Bane out there waiting for me <comic book reference,
sorry .. I never did grow out of them like mom said I would>
> I think he could use his force to better effect.
And there is where we differ, and always will. Which is why I
respect you. You expect better of me, and that raises the bar. You
might want to check out some of the new stuff I just posted on ASS,
especially the opening chapter to Mexican Hairless told from the point
of view of the prospective victim, Teresa. You might be surprised.
You can even catch a little glimpse of PRED the erstwhile Poet,
harkening back to my foppish beret-wearing days. Teresa may be the
victim, but she does have a voice.
>But you could say the same about some of the nc, the snuff, the pedo
>writers. And I do.
You know, during my hiatus I missed you and Katie most of all.
Great hearing your voice again, Bronwen, seriously .. and keep
pointing out my grammatical errors. It lets me know you're still
reading <grin>. Hope you post a new story soon.
pred
pr...@altavista.net
Hello, my old sparring partner. Nice to see some familiar faces still
around here. It feels like I've been gone a year instead of three
months. I'm sharpening my saber as you read this. En garde ..
pred
pr...@altavista.net
<souvien2...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>Star Trek. John DeLancie did play "Q." Used to play on Days of
>Our Lives as "Eugene," too.
DeLancie, shit. I should have looked it up. That's two
spelling mistakes in two days, and Bronwen's keeping count. BTW, that
guy can ACT!!
pred <who will dig out his Who's Who in Hollywood next time>
Katie McN
Thanks for writing this story and for the other stuff that is filling up my mail
box. Dang boy, sure missed you, and glad you're back, big time.
In the words of that old time philosopher, Elmore James:
"Made me feel so good, until my poor heart just skipped a beat."
This is the best stuff you've written in a long time. Guess you could tell by
the reception the first story got from everyone around here.
I got to get back to readin' the rest.
Luv you,
Katie McN <kati...@newsguy.com>
Get my stories via FTP from the
alt.sex.stories.archives at
<www.asstr.org>
Katie McN
> That must have been it. I was in South Yorkshire, so give me
>a break. The fact that I could even converse up there in the Peak
>District should duly impress you. On the BBC's History of the English
>Language series, the only dialect that needed subtitles was Yorkshire
>.. not Gulla, not the African or Jamaican pidgin variations, but
>Yorkshire! So I think your old hose-bag of monarch should knight me
>for even being able to communicate with the local yokels of
>Sheffield/Rotherham. You should have heard me trying to negotiate
>with the curb crawlers on Broomhall Road (and, no, I'm not Peter
>Sutcliffe <grin>).
> Her -- "Ywanagbacktimiflat, luv?"
> Me -- "How much?"
> Her -- "Ygityafiftiquid, luv?"
> Me -- "Listen, are you working or not?"
> Her -- "Ynacopper, rya?"
> Me -- Do I own a Helicopter? No, why do you need to know
>that? Do most johns fly you off in a helicopter? Where the fuck
>would they land a fucking helicopter?
> Her -- "Dozey bastard .." Storms off.
> That I did get the gist of. Scratching my head, walking off.
>It could have been a great bit on the Young Ones.
Seems pretty straight forward to me, although I'm from the South as well. I'm
pretty sure that you started understanding all this once you realized Brit babes
are hot.
It seems to me that the manner of speaking is somewhat different in London where
I spent some time. During my stay, I discovered vocal foreplay. OMG can't tell
you how turned on I get when a Brit babe rolls over and lets me know just what
she has in mind. Yep, massive stains on my panties, along with the usual, "Hello
darlin'". Yikes!
Katie McN
>
>On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:52:21 GMT, bro...@anon.nymserver.com (Bronwen)
>wrote:
>
>>No, it's not a troll. Pred's a mate of mine. Spot of mutual
>>appreciation.
>
> Just a spot?? Aw, you're gonna make me blush.
>
>> He's very talented. He writes polemic. Great big purple
>>polemic.
is that one of those hetero references, by any chance?
>>And truly revolting stories. Taking it seriously is missing
>>the point.
Letting the stories soak in, and then laughing until one falls off the chair is
much more like it. It's so much fun trying to imagine what a person who doesn't
get Pred might think after reading one of these way cool stories. I can see it
now. A veritable explosion of capillaries and the anger and disgust raises the
old blood pressure until...
> OUCH! There is a silver lining, though. You actually read
>far enough into my little missive to pick that error up. I AM
>flattered beyond words.
You're so silly. We read everything, sometimes more than once.
>
>>I've only got one question, so far. What's a dot-head?
>
> Hindu women ornament their foreheads with a dot symbolizing
>the third-eye chakra or some sort of nonsense. I used to know exactly
>what it means, and when I write my Dothead story you can rest assured
>I will have researched the matter thoroughly.
No, no, I'm pretty sure that it's some sort of inventory mark. Seems like there
are a lot of women in India and it's hard keeping track of all of them.
>>Though the post has triggered a memory of those slavery novels that
>>were popular when I was at school. There was a whole series. Breeding
>>slaves, uprisings in which all the Southern Belles got raped and all
>>that stuff. We all read them, increasingly curly-edged.
Most of these stories were based in Cleveland or someplace like that, or am I
wrong?
>>Though, as others have pointed out, it's amazing how the dominants in
>>my fantasies always do *exactly* what I want them to do, however
>>heartless they *seem*... <grin>
Same here, and if any one of them got out of line, I'd just kick her ass.
>>I still feel uneasy about the impact of what Pred writes - I know I
>>wouldn't want to be him when/if they find spunk-stained print-outs of
>>his diatribes in the apartment of some mass-murder supremacist
>>redneck.
Actually, a bible is usually found in such a place, or at least, it seems that
way.
> You know, during my hiatus I missed you and Katie most of all.
>Great hearing your voice again, Bronwen, seriously .. and keep
>pointing out my grammatical errors. It lets me know you're still
>reading <grin>. Hope you post a new story soon.
Things seemed a tad slow around here without you, big guy. Glad you're back and
sure am happy to see some new predature. Way cool!
Hecate
>Father Ignatius <fatheri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>American exchange student in class, "Can I borrow your rubber for a
>>minute?" She smacked him. I wonder whether Hecate and Joyce would
>>feel this was proper and forgivable. Me, I think it's funny. I forget
>>whether or not he instantly dissolved the relationshp. I would like to
>>hope that they ended better friends.
>
>I think it's funny too. :)
>
>Joyce
So do I <g>!
--
Hecate
Good girls keep diaries; it's the bad girls who don't
have the time. Tallulah Bankhead
FTP site: ftp://ftp.asstr.org/pub/authors/Hecate
Hec...@bigfoot.com
icq 59088833
Alecia D
bro...@anon.nymserver.com wrote:
> It's all a bit weird for me. It's not that I don't see there's an
> issue, it's just not my issue. Seems to be a big American
> preoccupation. We don't go in much for inter-racial. Not that the UK
> isn't racist, it's just not a major theme in our erotica. Not since
> the Victorians, and then it was Arabs. Sheikhs and white slavery -
> harems and so forth. Yum.
>
> But modern Brits don't seem that focussed on interracial sex as a hot
> button. Commercial porn works on what sells, so you can kinda work out
> what people *really* like as opposed to what they say they like from
> what's being advertised. And brit porn doesn't seem to see interracial
> as one of the major turn-ons. Maybe it's not quite as 'forbidden'
> here.
There are certain genre where racism still plays a key role in the UK.
One of my favorite authors, Lia Anderssen, seems to have a thing for
getting her gentile English Roses off to the dark continent where they
are ravaged non-stop by African-Africans. There are other authors on the
Silver Moon Books imprint that seem to write similar. I think all of you
computer programmers would just love "Bush Slave" by Lia where, Lisa, a
computer programmer ends up a slave in Africa suffering untold BDSM
horrors at the hands of people who don't care for Brits that much.
Perhaps not in the same class as Nicole Dere or Rosetta Stone, but
still quite a story.
--
Cheers,
Alecia D
ale...@altavista.com
"Swish! Smack!"
Robert B. McDonald
read any of your fiction, I did read your essay. Based on the essay, I
imagine that your fiction is quite good. Probably not my taste, but
different tastes is what the world is about.
My question is why write an essay and use such language that a large
percentage (50% 60% who knows, but it has to be over half) of people who
read it are never going to "hear" what it says. For those, other than the
pred, who might be reading along, I will add the clarification that I am
thinking more than 60% of the people who start to read it will dismiss
because of the language, and never have a clue as to what it is saying,
the rest, say 40%, will read it and understand it, not that they will all
agree, just understand. I am not going to even hazard to guess how many
people who read it, will agree with it, either secretly or openly.
Certainly you can argue that you do not care, but if that is the case, why
take the time to write so clearly and in-depth ? For the joy of writing?
Perhaps, certainly if it were fiction, but an essay? An essay, by its
very nature, is intended to convey knowledge (right or wrong is not the
point) or to persuade. So why write an essay, that is crippled in its
mission, from the very start.
Certainly, I am not here to argue if you should or should not have written
the essay. I am curious to know your motives. I find it difficult to
believe that the story actually required such a preface.
RBM
dennyw...@zipcon.net
saying:
>On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:14:22 GMT, Father Ignatius
><fatheri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <38de9569...@news.cle.ameritech.net>,
>>pr...@altavista.net wrote:
>>> ... Actually, (Bronwen)'s my great unrequited love.
>
>to which iggy rejoindered:
>>Get in the queue, buster.
>
> Isn't that techno-gimmick-wizard in the Bond films .. Q? Or
>John Delancy's character on Star Trek .. Q? Anybody got a LINE on
>that?
88888888888888888888888888888888888!!!!!!!!!
-denny-
proofreader. curmudgeon.
"Television: A medium. So called because it is
neither rare nor well done."
- Ernie Kovacs
pr...@altavista.net
<rbmcd...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>My question is why write an essay and use such language that a large
>percentage (50% 60% who knows, but it has to be over half) of people who
>read it are never going to "hear" what it says. For those, other than the
>pred, who might be reading along, I will add the clarification that I am
>thinking more than 60% of the people who start to read it will dismiss
>because of the language, and never have a clue as to what it is saying,
>the rest, say 40%, will read it and understand it, not that they will all
>agree, just understand. I am not going to even hazard to guess how many
>people who read it, will agree with it, either secretly or openly.
This is an excellent question with a few separate but
nonetheless related answers. I'll try to explicate:
1) I write the way I do because that is the way I think DEEP in
my mind, where there is no censorship and no editorial privilege. If
I have a thought that "squicks" me, as some of our ASSD denizens love
to say, I pursue it and make sure I explore it fully. The language is
my thought process without all the niceties. There is a certain
richness to offensive language I love to explore.
2) It amuses me that some people (a minority actually, see below)
will never read or even try to understand the thoughts involved merely
because the language offends them. It also amuses me that they have
even read the words. Very few such people expose themselves to
anything that "offends" them. They live within glass houses with
carefully manicured lawns and neatly circumscribed groups of friends.
If they read one paragraph and hurl my words away in disgust, I've
done my job. To use my own analogy -- I'm a freedom of speech
terrorist and that was just a car bomb -- KABOOM! For a moment at
least, their pathetic lives CANNOT return to normal.
3) People don't curse and hurl invective with panache anymore. I
love swearing and name calling; it takes me back to my grade school
days on the playground. The other kids were bigger, faster and
stronger and I'd get my ass kicked a bit, but they were the ones who
ALWAYS looked stupid. They had to resort to violence. My pain lasted
a few minutes, there's carried on the whole school year and beyond
(the nicknames I bestowed STUCK and were legendary). BTW, I NEVER
started anything. I was a misanthrope even at that age and kept to
myself (still do). Bullying would have meant human contact. I'd be
reading or swinging on the swings and some kid would come up and start
hassling me. Then he'd get an earful and start swinging while
everyone laughed at HIM. I still enjoy that feeling of power when I
use cursing properly.
4) With all due respect, you are incorrect in your initital
assumption. My foul language is precisely why I am read so widely
here. That's not boasting, it's the plain truth. Since my Sunday
barrage, I'm avergaing about 50-70 emails a day. Roughly, 30% are old
fans. 20% old enemies. 15% new enemies and 35% new fans who all say
the same thing "who are you, and where can I find your stories?" My
language is precisely why people read me. I don't use it as a gimmck,
mind you, but it is my style and it foments great discussion on these
forums and via e-mail. It's what makes me "different" from the other
authors here and gives me instant rapport or notoriety with new
readers. Those who throw my work away after reading a paragraph
matter to me not at all. The majority, however, slug through, ire in
their hearts. Hopefully they will express themselves and flame me
(which I love) or send me hate mail/death threats (which I collect).
All in all, my strong language engenders RESPONSE! People actually
read something and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! They express themselves.
That's why I write.
> An essay, by its
>very nature, is intended to convey knowledge (right or wrong is not the
>point) or to persuade. So why write an essay, that is crippled in its
>mission, from the very start.
You are mistaken here. You read the work and responded, many
others do the same precisely because of the strong content. You
assume that because the style is so "offensive" that readers will not
do just as you did and finish the work. That assumption is wrong
(sorry). Yes, it flies in the face of logic to think that people will
purposely go out of their way to be offended. Yet again, Howard
Stern's major listeners are his detractors who dwell on his every
racial epithet and toilet joke. Donald Wildmon's group watches TV and
reads magazines obsessively to find the offensive images, etc.
Liberal watchdogs hound Pat Buchanan and any other "hate monger" who
speaks his mind. Millions of other "concerned" people the world over
obsessively read what "offends" them in order to condemn it. What
they are really doing, however, is finding a socially acceptable
means to purge the urges festering in their lackluster souls -- they
call this catharsis "righteous indignation." They are not offended by
the material, they are titillated by it. What they are "offended" by
is their arousal because they are brainwashed into thinking emotional
or intellectual stimulation outside of their governing philosophy (be
it Xtianity, feminism, Islam, New Age psychobabble, etc.) is WRONG.
This, then, is why they protest the new Jacques Sturges photo essay or
the local KKK rally on public square -- not because they are offended
by the actions of others, but because they are offended by their own
fascination by it.
You'd be amazed how many people read my work precisely because
they HATE me. Their fingers moist with their own genital fluid, they
tap out an SOS on their tiny little keyboards, hit send and condemn me
to hell. Then if they're not finished reading yet, they pick up where
they left off and start frittering away at round two. "Disgusting,"
they gasp as they exorcise the demons of lust from their possessed
libidos, "absolutely disgusting."
>Certainly, I am not here to argue if you should or should not have written
>the essay. I am curious to know your motives. I find it difficult to
>believe that the story actually required such a preface.
Nor did The Scarlet Letter require Hawthorne's "Customs House"
preface. It's just there, illuminating the story for those who care
to delve deeper.
I enjoyed this thoroughly. Please don't be a stranger.
PRED
pr...@altavista.net
>>pred wrote:
>> Hindu women ornament their foreheads with a dot symbolizing
>>the third-eye chakra or some sort of nonsense. I used to know exactly
>>what it means, and when I write my Dothead story you can rest assured
>>I will have researched the matter thoroughly.
>katie quipped back:
>No, no, I'm pretty sure that it's some sort of inventory mark. Seems like there
>are a lot of women in India and it's hard keeping track of all of them.
HA!
>>>Bronwen wrote:
>>>Though, as others have pointed out, it's amazing how the dominants in
>>>my fantasies always do *exactly* what I want them to do, however
>>>heartless they *seem*... <grin>
>katie pointed out:
>Same here, and if any one of them got out of line, I'd just kick her ass.
Just what the wife says <grin>
>>>Bronwen wrote:
>>>I still feel uneasy about the impact of what Pred writes - I know I
>>>wouldn't want to be him when/if they find spunk-stained print-outs of
>>>his diatribes in the apartment of some mass-murder supremacist
>>>redneck.
>katie rejoindered:
>Actually, a bible is usually found in such a place, or at least, it seems that
>way.
Nice ...
>Things seemed a tad slow around here without you, big guy. Glad you're back and
>sure am happy to see some new predature. Way cool!
Glad I could be of service.
pred
pr...@altavista.net
>This is the best stuff you've written in a long time. Guess you could tell by
>the reception the first story got from everyone around here.
Thanks. I just need to stay focused and not let the energy
slip away.
>I got to get back to readin' the rest.
Hope you enjoy ...
pred
GenericJoe
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2000 03:50:23 GMT, "Robert B. McDonald"
> <rbmcd...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
[snip snip snip]
{Kinda like John Bobbitt's nightmares, ain't it?}
>> An essay, by its
>>very nature, is intended to convey knowledge (right or wrong is not the
>>point) or to persuade. So why write an essay, that is crippled in its
>>mission, from the very start.
[snip]
> You'd be amazed how many people read my work precisely because
> they HATE me. Their fingers moist with their own genital fluid, they
> tap out an SOS on their tiny little keyboards, hit send and condemn me
> to hell. Then if they're not finished reading yet, they pick up where
> they left off and start frittering away at round two. "Disgusting,"
> they gasp as they exorcise the demons of lust from their possessed
> libidos, "absolutely disgusting."
Now if that isn't the seminal response to that question, I don't know
what is.
As I've told people before, fantasy doesn't scare me. I'll read anything,
and I'll often get off on some very strange stuff (even Pred). Maybe
I'm sick. Maybe I'm human. Maybe I understand the difference between
fantasy and reality.
Then again, his stuff makes me laugh, too.
>>Certainly, I am not here to argue if you should or should not have written
>>the essay. I am curious to know your motives. I find it difficult to
>>believe that the story actually required such a preface.
> Nor did The Scarlet Letter require Hawthorne's "Customs House"
> preface. It's just there, illuminating the story for those who care
> to delve deeper.
> I enjoyed this thoroughly. Please don't be a stranger.
There are few people stranger than erotica writers, Pred.
Welcome back. And I'm glad you posted here. And I'm even more glad that
it hasn't devolved into a flame war. Whoda thunk it?
GenericJoe
Starting March 31, BodyDouble, a sci-fi serial from GenericJoe
--
Because, sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.
bisexual | poly | pagan | kinky | geek | writer
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Souvie
so I have to do it myself.)
>On March 26, 2000, pr...@altavista.net wrote...
<snipped it all because remarq is being an arse today>
While reading some articles today for Lit. class, one of them
immediately brought to mind pred's essay. It's from "William
Lloyd Garrison: The Story of His Life":
"I am aware that many may object to the severity of my language;
but is there not cause for severity? On this subject, I do not
wish to think, or speak, or write, with moderation. No! no! I
am in earnest - I will not equivocate - I will not excuse - I
will not retreat a single inch - AND I WILL BE HEARD."
What makes me chuckle is the irony. William Lloyd Garrison was a
staunch abolitionist, back in the 1830's.
-Souvie
(going back to her reading)
p&m
pr...@altavista.net
<souvien2...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>What makes me chuckle is the irony. William Lloyd Garrison was a
>staunch abolitionist, back in the 1830's.
He sure was <chuckling, too>
pred
Father Ignatius
"Robert B. McDonald" <rbmcd...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
<snup>
> My question is why write an essay and use such language that a large
> percentage (50% 60% who knows, but it has to be over half) of people
who
> read it are never going to "hear" what it says. For those, other than
P'raps that's why he uses repetition as a narrative device?
case, why
> take the time to write so clearly and in-depth ? For the joy of
writing?
That's certainly what it looks like. Or joy of wielding the Big Wooden
Spoon.
> Perhaps, certainly if it were fiction, but an essay? An essay, by its
> very nature, is intended to convey knowledge (right or wrong is not
the
> point) or to persuade. So why write an essay, that is crippled in its
> mission, from the very start.
Oh, i think it succeeded wonderfully well.
> Certainly, I am not here to argue if you should or should not have
written
> the essay. I am curious to know your motives. I find it difficult to
> believe that the story actually required such a preface.
Does the phrase "bombs away" carry any meaning for you?
> RBM
--
"Father Ignatius" <FatherI...@hotmail.com>
...and gradually, when he found that his sensitive organ was really
grateful for those grim favours, he conferred them with a better grace.
Henry James, _Portrait_of_a_Lady_
Father Ignatius
pr...@altavista.net wrote:
> 3) People don't curse and hurl invective with panache anymore. I
That's right, and more is the pity. And this debacle is entirely
Souvie's fault. ;-)
Nat(pointing fingers)
Souvie
<fatheri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>In article <38e08091...@news.cle.ameritech.net>,
>pr...@altavista.net wrote:
>
anymore. I
>
entirely
>Souvie's fault. ;-)
Hey! My father was a sailor for over 30 years. I can curse with
the best of 'em, buddy. In two languages no less. <g>
>Nat(pointing fingers)
-Souvie
(don't point your finger at me unless you know how to use it :P)
John A
>-Souvie
>(don't point your finger at me unless you know how to use it :P)
>
And you don't stick that tongue out unless you're prepared to use it <g> [and
if you are prepared to use it, you know where I am ;-) ]
John A
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Souvie
john...@aol.com (John A) wrote:
>>Souvie wrote:
>
>>-Souvie
>>(don't point your finger at me unless you know how to use
it :P)
>>
>
>And you don't stick that tongue out unless you're prepared to
use it <g> [and
>if you are prepared to use it, you know where I am ;-) ]
Cruising the bars tonight with Jimmy and Homer?* lol
-Souvie
* See the thread Homer started, titled "Scinnce."
>John A
>
>
>---------------
>
>Visit my story site and you, too, could win a chance
>to be entered in the monthly broccoli giveaway.
>Don't miss your chance to win a steaming bowl of broccoli,
>click on the link below. Yum!
>http://www.asstr.org/~JohnA/
>
>
>
Jacques LeBlanc
> Hello, my old sparring partner. Nice to see some familiar faces still
> around here. It feels like I've been gone a year instead of three
> months. I'm sharpening my saber as you read this. En garde ..
Just when I thought it was safe to come back in the newgroup... :-)
Good to hear from you again, too. But sabers? As one of my favorite G.
B. Shaw characters observed in response to a similar challenge, "Now
that is a cavalryman's proposal. I'm in the artillery; I shall bring a
machine gun." Or, if you insist on swordplay, a katana--nobody makes
swords like the Japanese.
The writing goes slowly, but I've still got some stuff in the works--
more of Sam Goldberg, and a few other tarnished heroes ready to hunt the
hunters....
Later,
Jacques
--
"A fantasy is not even a *wish*, much less an act.
There is no such thing as a culpable or shameful
fantasy." -----Lady Sally McGee
Neal Wilkinson
has an entirely different meaning in colloquial Australian!
<pr...@altavista.net> wrote in message
news:38de9569...@news.cle.ameritech.net...
> On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 19:50:11 GMT, Father Ignatius
> <fatheri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <38de5b93...@news.cle.ameritech.net>,
> >pr...@altavista.net wrote:
>
> >> At least you didn't say the Arizona (heh heh .. for anyone who
> >> doesn't get that, look it up and blame your high school history
> >> teachers).
>
> Father Iggy replied:
>
> >_I_ got it but I'm only a benighted foreigner. Point is, did Kristen?
>
> Foreigners tend to know more about US History than we
> nativists know-nothings.
>
> >
> >> And I wish I could write like Bronwen -- who, by the way, is
> >> probably so angry at me right now for my little essay that she won't
> >> speak to me again for a few weeks until she realizes that -- despite
> >> the fact I horrify/disgust her -- she really did miss me during my
> >> hiatus .. didn't you Bronwen ..? <wink>
>
> Father Iggy fired back:
>
> >Is _that_ a troll?
>
> I don't troll anyone. least of all Bronwen (then I really
> would be the USS Arizona). I just miss the sound of her chastizing
> Brit accent. Actually, she's my great unrequited love. Alas, woe is
> me ... for I am the East and Bronwen is my super nova.
>
> >This reminds me of a scene in "Good Omens" by Terry Pratchett and Neil
> >Gaiman. The American G-man got real tense in the English convent when
> >they heard there were missals on the premises.
>
> When I lived in the UK for a year, Sheffield to be exact, I
> was shopping at one of the downtown department stores shortly after I
> arrived and a sales clerk informed me that I could "see jumpers on the
> third floor." Of course, I ran up the stairs hoping I could spot one
> of the poor bastards as he took his plunge ...
> (Those of you who don't get this, ask Bronwen or any other
> local limey on the group, and they'll patiently explain that we
> Americans have a different word for everything!).
Souvie
<nek...@alphalink.com.au> wrote:
>My favourite is the American expression 'to root for' -- the
verb 'to root'
>has an entirely different meaning in colloquial Australian!
"Paging Dr. Spin! Paging Dr. Spin!"
Okay, Doc, please explain the above. What *does* "to root" mean
in colloquial Australian?
-Souvie
(dying of curiosity)
DrSpin
Souvie asked...
>>Okay, Doc, please explain the above. What *does* "to root" mean
>>in colloquial Australian?
>
>I am an Aussie after all.
>"To root" means to have sex in Aussie slang.
>Which makes the description of a Wombat a lot more interesting.
>The Wombat eats roots and leaves.
>Put the comma wherever you like.
You did well, Slotty. But a slight correction. The wombat actually...
eats roots shoots and leaves.
You forgot to ejaculate.
DrSpin
Mr Slot
<souvien2...@yahoo.com.invalid> chose to put into words the
following :-:
>In article <38e8...@news.alphalink.com.au>, "Neal Wilkinson"
><nek...@alphalink.com.au> wrote:
>>My favourite is the American expression 'to root for' -- the
>verb 'to root'
>>has an entirely different meaning in colloquial Australian!
>
>
>"Paging Dr. Spin! Paging Dr. Spin!"
>
>Okay, Doc, please explain the above. What *does* "to root" mean
>in colloquial Australian?
>
>-Souvie
>(dying of curiosity)
Not that I could presume to answer for the good Doc but what the hell.
I am an Aussie after all.
"To root" means to have sex in Aussie slang.
Which makes the description of a Wombat a lot more interesting.
The Wombat eats roots and leaves.
Put the comma wherever you like.
; )
Mr Slot
Stories now available at ftp://ftp.asstr.org/pub/Authors/mr_slot/
Web site at http://www.asstr.org/~mr_slot
It's always funny till someone gets hurt...
and then it's absolutely friggin hysterical
--- Running with scissors.
dennyw...@zipcon.net
>My favourite is the American expression 'to root for' -- the verb 'to root'
>has an entirely different meaning in colloquial Australian!
>
It occasionally has that meaning here too. Or the meaning 'work' as
in 'root, hog or die'.
Mr Slot
into words the following :-:
>In article <9imfes0u5d8g64jah...@4ax.com>, Mr Slot says...
>Souvie asked...
>>>Okay, Doc, please explain the above. What *does* "to root" mean
>>>in colloquial Australian?
>>
>>Not that I could presume to answer for the good Doc but what the hell.
>>I am an Aussie after all.
>>"To root" means to have sex in Aussie slang.
>>Which makes the description of a Wombat a lot more interesting.
>>The Wombat eats roots and leaves.
>>Put the comma wherever you like.
>
>You did well, Slotty. But a slight correction. The wombat actually...
>
>eats roots shoots and leaves.
(Slaps forehead) DOH!!
>
>You forgot to ejaculate.
Wouldn't be the first time.
; )
Mr Slot
(Remembering a very painful week after a very long bout of lovemaking
without lubricant. Damn alcohol)
E.Z. Riter
dennyw...@zipcon.net wrote in message ...
>On Sun, 2 Apr 2000 18:18:16 +1000, Neal Wilkinson held forth, saying:
>
>>My favourite is the American expression 'to root for' -- the verb
'to root'
>>has an entirely different meaning in colloquial Australian!
>>
>
>It occasionally has that meaning here too. Or the meaning 'work' as
>in 'root, hog or die'.
>
journalism school, who was hired to edit the story and write the
headline.
On a story about an mental patient who raped a woman nurse and then
made good his escape, he wrote the following headline:
Nut screws and bolts.
E.Z.
Greybeard
wrote in alt.sex.stories.d:
I used to live in a light industrial area of Berkeley, Cal. Not far
from my home was a building with a large sign: "Pacific Screw & Bolt
Co.".
I smiled every time I passed it.
Regards,
Greybeard