{ASSD} Why did you start writing?
Norm DePloom
?) was 'I can write a better story than that.' I finally decided I had to
put my keyboard where my mouth was and started writing a couple.
I must admit that positive responses from woman still have a tendency to
surprise me.
--
Fella me amabo te.
Norm DePloom
;-})>
Stasya T. Canine
<normdeploo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>When I started reading sex stories on the internet my reaction to most (98%
>?) was 'I can write a better story than that.' I finally decided I had to
>put my keyboard where my mouth was and started writing a couple.
Change 'write' to 'puke' and you have my reaction to the zoo/best
stuff I found in ASS way back when. <g>
So I decided to give it a shot--and discovered I had an extremely
virulent case of 'writer'.
---
"Give a minute...
Give the gift of friendship to a stranger."
--Stasya T. Canine, September 14, 2001--
~~~
http://storiesonline.net/Stasya_T_Canine
http://www.furnation.com/Nikkolai - Furry, general audience
BronwenSM
<normdeploo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>When I started reading sex stories on the internet my reaction to most (98%
>?) was 'I can write a better story than that.' I finally decided I had to
>put my keyboard where my mouth was and started writing a couple.
Same as that, really. And I found I very much wanted to present an
alternative feeling about sexuality. Something more buoyant,
realistic, fun than the tired, rather depressing, "porno" crap I kept
finding. Girls who introduce themselves by their bra size ...
I keep meaning to write some darker stuff, but never get round to it.
ATM there's so much I want to say about RL sex and its infinite
capacity for good things.
>I must admit that positive responses from woman still have a tendency to
>surprise me.
Positive responses from men don't surprise me, but they never fail to
please.
Bronwen
Elf Sternberg
>>When I started reading sex stories on the internet my reaction to most (98%
>>?) was 'I can write a better story than that.' I finally decided I had to
>>put my keyboard where my mouth was and started writing a couple.
>Change 'write' to 'puke' and you have my reaction to the zoo/best stuff
>I found in ASS way back when. <g> So I decided to give it a shot--and
>discovered I had an extremely virulent case of 'writer'.
Yeah, that's more or less my story as well. The first story I
read on alt.sex.stories was something about the Brady Bunch. Now, to
.show you how much of a geek I am, I know nothing about the Brady
Bunch. I thought Florence Henderson was the Wesson Oil Woman. I've
never seen an entire episode. I never watched the movie. I have no
idea who "Marsha" is nor why it should be amusing (FSDO) that she should
be humping the dog.
But my main impression was that it was *so* badly written. It
was one huge paragraph with no breaks. Sentence structure was non-
existent. The sex wasn't hot.
And so I sat down, mined the material I had been writing in a
notebook for nearly a decade, and wrote "The Kittenin'." It's not my
best story, but it's the first one I ever posted, and the feedback from
it was sufficient that here I am, a decade older and 200 stories done...
Elf
--
Elf M. Sternberg, Immanentizing the Eschaton since 1988
http://www.halcyon.com/elf/
Testosterone-sodden young men too unattractive to get a woman in this
world might be desperate enough to go for 72 private virgins in the next.
-- Richard Dawkins
Frank Downey
"Norm DePloom" <normdeploo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> When I started reading sex stories on the internet my reaction to most
(98%
> ?) was 'I can write a better story than that.' I finally decided I had to
> put my keyboard where my mouth was and started writing a couple.
Mine was somewhat similar.
Not only was I in that "I can write a better story than that" mode, but,
also,
the *type* of stories I liked to read were few and far between. There were
some writers that wrote in the blatantly romantic style that I like, but
they
had a tendency to be drowned out by the stroke/NC/MC stuff.
Coinciding with that, I got the basic idea for "Dance of a Lifetime".
Realizing
that, yes, it *was* going to be erotic enough to fit into the ASS* oeuvre--
even if barely so <G>--I started outlining it and working on the beginning
of
it, with the eye towards posting it on ASSTR.
However, I knew it was going to be long and convoluted, and with great
stretches where nothing "erotic" was happening. It was also the first prose
I had attempted to write in a long time--after years of writing mostly songs
<G>--
and it wasn't a small task I had set out for myself.
However, since I *had* made the tentative decision to write "Dance" as
something I would post here, that seemed to open the floodgates.
While ruminating on "Dance", I quickly got the ideas for my first two
short stories, "The Perfect Six" and "Alexandra". I wrote them, posted
them, got a good response, posted the first bunch of chapters of
"Dance", got a stunning response.........and here we are, still writing--
heck, still writing "Dance"! <G>
> I must admit that positive responses from woman still have a tendency to
> surprise me.
Actually, considering the type of stuff I write, positive responses from
women *don't* surprise me. Positive responses from *guys* surprise me
more, considering how unabashedly gooey I can get <G>
Frank
Jeff Zephyr
<normdeploo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>When I started reading sex stories on the internet my reaction to most (98%
>?) was 'I can write a better story than that.' I finally decided I had to
>put my keyboard where my mouth was and started writing a couple.
>
>I must admit that positive responses from woman still have a tendency to
>surprise me.
Yes, that was my main reason. Also, reading good ones inspired me
to think up my own fantasies, and to think about RL things which were
sorta like those. All I had to do was make the leap from just
thinking about it to writing. That *isn't* so easy, I found out. But
it is a lot of fun.
--
Jeff
Web site at http://www.asstr.org/~jeffzephyr/
For FTP, ftp://ftp.asstr.org/pub/Authors/jeffzephyr/
There is nothing more important than petting the cat.
Gary
There I was, a delurked reader, minding your own business, and *he* had to go
and fertilize my virgin hopper.
Gary
"Old submariners never die; they just don't get to go down as often"
(RODL = "Rolling on DECK, laughing", ye landlubbers!)
celia batau
we started writing stories when we were like fifteen. we wrote with this boy
we liked, and it kind of grew. senior year us and two friends had the entire
wall of the yearbook room covered with writings. writing was a way to
explore ideas, to vent, to work through problems. then two years ago we
started having sexual desire feelings, so we started writing stories to
explore that. :)
-cb
--
If there were no rewards to reap,
no loving embrace to see me through this tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now.
-Tool
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den...@nolunch.zipcon.net
(BronwenSM) held forth, saying:
>Positive responses from men don't surprise me, but they never fail to
>please.
I thought Norm was speaking of responses to stories.
<g,d,r>
-denny-
"I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him
with a terrible resolve ... "
-- Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, Dec. 8th, 1941
h. jekyll
reading, more realistic, more stylistic, more heat, more something.
I was reading to get hot myself, to feel as horny as possible and have as
rich a set of fantasies as possible, and when I'd first start reading almost
any story would do the trick. I especially like stories with a dark edge,
or a whole dark side. But -- damn! -- they were all alike, populated with
sexual puppets; nothing real to fantasize over. I'd get bored and look
around desperately to find something worthwhile.
So yes, I too thought I could do better, and be less boring in the long run.
hj
Desdmona22
and thinking, hey I could do that better. I just remember thinking, hey, maybe
someone would like to read the sex things I'm writing.
A friend of mine introduced me to the newsgroup ASSM, and the rest, as they
say, is history.
Des
Anne747
inundated with men who wanted to write (okay, big surprise, men interested in
swapping fantasies with women). So, I sat down and put together a number of
short fantasies that I could work into the conversation when it came up.
LOL - I was quite the organized one, keeping track of what I'd sent to each
guy.
Then I joined a mailing list, posted a few of them there, got encouragement to
post more / write more. The website came from the mailing list (it was an
easier way of letting people read the older stories I'd written). A couple of
good links, and many visitors later, it's been kind of fun.
I don't think I ever thought 'I can write better' than _____. However, I did
want to see stories with strong / positive female characters in them. You
know, ones that enjoy sex. I suppose I was a little tired of the 'victim'
mentality that I saw in a lot of other stories.
Anne
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Mr Slot
following :-
>When I started reading sex stories on the internet my reaction to most (98%
>?) was 'I can write a better story than that.' I finally decided I had to
>put my keyboard where my mouth was and started writing a couple.
>
>I must admit that positive responses from woman still have a tendency to
>surprise me.
I would like to say that my first attempts at porn (Truth or Dare
series and The Jello Incident) were noble endeavors at evolving
literature, but actually they were just written to get some women
friends excited.
Worked too.
I always try to ellicit an emotional response from people reading my
stories, and horniness is probably one of the easiest.
So basically I write because I'm a show off and like to be noticed.
; )
Mr Slot
Writers never lie.
They tell the truth from a different perspective.
Joyce Melton
>When I started reading sex stories on the internet my reaction to most (98%
>?) was 'I can write a better story than that.' I finally decided I had to
>put my keyboard where my mouth was and started writing a couple.
>
>I must admit that positive responses from woman still have a tendency to
>surprise me.
I started writing stories when I was about 8 years old and it occurred
to me that SOMEONE had to write all the books I kept wanting to read.
Nothing in the world seemed to be as much fun, except maybe drawing my
own Sunday comic strip. :)
I started writing porno for print magazines then discovered the
internet offered an outlet for stuff a little more literary than any
other market besides Playboy. A non-paying outlet for the most part,
but I can't not write. It's what I do.
Joyce
Shon Richards
"Norm DePloom" <normdeploo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Three words, Topless, Female, Fans.
Of course, when THAT didn't happen, I found I enjoyed writing too much
to quit.
--
Head Warlock of the Coven of Bliss
Shon Richards
Adventure Stories of Mine and Others can be found at
http://www.asstr.org/~shonRichards/
Romance Stories of mine are hosted by Gary at http://www.asstr.org/~gary/
E-mail me to find out about the ASSD/Coven of Bliss Mentor Program
"Money talks but it don't sing and dance and it don't walk"
Paulinusfang
I'm new to this group but an old intermittent player on ASSM as both
Paulinusfang and Stewart Warmling.
I started, if anyone is interested, when I was encouraged by two lady
writers from the group. I had responded to a story called "Frankie & Adam"
about two years ago. They encouraged me....in more ways than one. I'm still
writing occasionally and now married to one of the two lady authors.
I look forward to the antics here,
Cheers all
Paulinusfang/Stewart Warmling
Norm DePloom <normdeploo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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h jekyll
> unanimous? you're talking with a multiple. there's _nothing_ unanimous
with us. ;)
>
> we agree with Desdmona and Anne. :)
Woops! You got me on that one, Pinataheart. I didn't read your entry as
closely as I read your stories.
hj
h jekyll
"Desdmona22" <desdm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> My sex stories evolved from writing emails. I don't remember reading a
story and thinking, hey I could do that better. I just remember thinking,
hey, maybe someone would like to read the sex things I'm writing.
-- And we're *all* happy that you made the jump, Des. At least I am.
hj
Souvie
>Why did you start writing?
Because in the chat room I used to frequent, we used to have "Story
time with Bajy" (the nic I chatted under). One night I decided to
make up an erotic version of Little Red Riding Hood. After Miss B
introduced me to Shon, I shared the story with him and he encouraged
me to post it. After I got favorable responses, he encouraged me to
write a Fantasy Train story...
And how I met John is tied up in all that, too. lol
...and the rest is history.
- Souvie
"A man's vanity tells him what is honour, a man's conscience what is is justice."
- Walter Savage Landor
den...@nolunch.zipcon.net
<paulin...@lycos.com> held forth, saying:
>Morning,
>
>I'm new to this group but an old intermittent player on ASSM as both
>Paulinusfang and Stewart Warmling.
>
>I started, if anyone is interested, when I was encouraged by two lady
>writers from the group. I had responded to a story called "Frankie & Adam"
>about two years ago. They encouraged me....in more ways than one. I'm still
>writing occasionally and now married to one of the two lady authors.
>
>I look forward to the antics here,
>
>Cheers all
and Welcome to the Funhouse (tm) to you!
Rick O
>On Mon, 01 Oct 2001 05:58:20 GMT, "Norm DePloom"
><normdeploo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>When I started reading sex stories on the internet my reaction to most (98%
>>?) was 'I can write a better story than that.' I finally decided I had to
>>put my keyboard where my mouth was and started writing a couple.
My case is rather different - about fifteen years ago I started
writing stories. I had read a few really good ones in some spanking
magazines. Other stories in the magazines were kind of wretched,
though. But the stories that I liked were few and far between, so I
started writing *my* fantasies as stories - and had a lot of fun at
it. I wrote them primarily for my own entertainment.
Fast forward to 1996 when I got o the internet and discovered usenet's
stories. It wasn't till 1997 that I started to post my stories, at
first under a different name. Readers began to respond, saying they
liked them, which encouraged me to write more.
Rick
--
My stories: http://www.asstr.org/~rick_oh/
Desdmona22
Kenny N Gamera
> <paulin...@lycos.com> held forth, saying:
>
> >Morning,
> >
> >I'm new to this group but an old intermittent player on ASSM as both
> >Paulinusfang and Stewart Warmling.
> >
> >I started, if anyone is interested, when I was encouraged by two lady
> >writers from the group. I had responded to a story called "Frankie & Adam"
> >about two years ago. They encouraged me....in more ways than one. I'm still
> >writing occasionally and now married to one of the two lady authors.
> >
> >I look forward to the antics here,
> >
> >Cheers all
Hmmmm! I was in the fifth grade and I started some sort of fanasty thing from
the insparation of The Chornicals of Narnia. Never finished it of course, but I
have been fiddling with stories ever since. My first erotica was writen a few
years
ago. It was the first thing I ever finished writing, but I haven't finished
typing it onto
the computer yet.
I think it may be a chemical imbalance.
Thank You and Good Day,
Kenny N Gamera
turtle...@hotmail.com
Elf Sternberg
"h. jekyll" <h_jeky...@yahoo.com> writes:
>So it's unanimous. All of us thought we could write better sex than we were
>reading, more realistic, more stylistic, more heat, more something.
Nah, I was writing a *long* time before I started posting
anything to alt.sex.stories. I was writing because I wanted to write,
because I had a hundred thousand stories inside me. I can't imagine
having writer's block-- I can imagine being too depressed to write; I've
been there-- but writer's block, where you have _nothing_ to write
about, sounds weird to me.
Desdmona22
> Nah, I was writing a *long* time before I started posting
>anything to alt.sex.stories. I was writing because I wanted to write,
>because I had a hundred thousand stories inside me. I can't imagine
>having writer's block-- I can imagine being too depressed to write; I've
>been there-- but writer's block, where you have _nothing_ to write
>about, sounds weird to me.
I envy you this. It made me think. I don't think I run out of things to write
about, I think it's more that I have trouble "just doing it." Why even as I'm
writing this I have at least 4 other projects I should be or could be writing,
but I'm not.
Is that writer's block or merely writer's laziness? Or maybe I could call it
writer's procrastination. I can't decide.
Des (who's even now trying to decide what to do next to avoide the
aforementioned projects)
Jeff Zephyr
>>From: e...@drizzle.com (Elf Sternberg)
>
>> Nah, I was writing a *long* time before I started posting
>>anything to alt.sex.stories. I was writing because I wanted to write,
>>because I had a hundred thousand stories inside me. I can't imagine
>>having writer's block-- I can imagine being too depressed to write; I've
>>been there-- but writer's block, where you have _nothing_ to write
>>about, sounds weird to me.
>
>
>I envy you this. It made me think. I don't think I run out of things to write
>about, I think it's more that I have trouble "just doing it." Why even as I'm
>writing this I have at least 4 other projects I should be or could be writing,
>but I'm not.
>
>Is that writer's block or merely writer's laziness? Or maybe I could call it
>writer's procrastination. I can't decide.
Lazy procrastination, that is what it is ;-)
>Des (who's even now trying to decide what to do next to avoide the
>aforementioned projects)
I'm afflicted with the same thing, sort of. It is odd, because I
keep *thinking* about things to write. It is just the actual writing
activity which I never find enough time for.
Norm DePloom
"Jeff Zephyr" <jeff...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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to do it.
Crimson Dragon
> Why did you start writing?
<---===***===--->
"Crimson?"
The voice appeared from the steam, soft and sultry.
The girl looked up, her eyes scanning through the warm fog.
"I know you're there," she whispered. Her fingers brushed
the condensation ineffectually from the mirror. She squinted,
running fingertips through her sopping hair tediously
releasing the tangles.
"Crimson?"
The voice became more distinct, more female, more insistent.
The girl ignored the voice, towel-drying her hair, but
allowing the brunette locks to drip over her bare shoulders.
With a sigh, she ran the towel over her skin, drying herself
from her throat to her bare toes. The voice wouldn't leave
her, not without persuasion.
At last, she wrapped the red towel around her breasts.
"Crimson?" The disembodied voice drifted into the forlorn.
Most of the steam had drifted away, leaving the empty tiles
to watch her. Her image stared back at her from the
streaked mirror. She was alone, but never alone.
"Yes?" the girl inquired sweetly.
"Why?"
She looked perplexed as she stepped from the bathroom.
The texture of the carpet tickled her bare feet.
"Why what?" The girl's voice echoed through the empty
hallway as she walked.
The voice followed her.
"Why do you love me?"
"Love you?"
"You allow me to stay. Encourage me. You write."
The girl thought about it for a moment. Her Muse, usually
demanding and sassy, fell unusually quiet. The crimson towel
tumbled, crumpled in a heap by the door to the study. The
girl settled into her chair, leaning back, her bare legs
crossed in a comfortable pose. A finger tucked her damp hair
daintily behind her ear.
"Because," the girl paused as if uncertain. "Because, I need you,
and I wouldn't be complete without you," the girl finally
whispered.
The girl leaned forward, her pruned fingertips kissing the
keys. She lost herself in another world, fingers softly
tapping in a blur. A gentle smile graced her lips, fighting
through the emotions that flowed within her as she typed,
consumed by the text and imagination.
'"Crimson?"'
'The voice appeared from the steam, soft and sultry.'
..
<---===***===--->
I know I must write -- writing gives me a sense of catharsis
that I'm not sure that I could live without. Why do I write?
Might as well ask me why I breathe or make love. I could not
survive without. Not anymore.
Writing allows me self-expression, self-exploration, and
provides a safe escape where there wasn't any before.
Why did I start? Probably, because she demanded it. The
images weren't going away. Now, they release me with the
stroke of an imaginary pen. But there are so many images,
aren't there?
The real mystery isn't why I write, but rather why I share my
writing with the world, revealing myself, and accepting
vulnerability because of it. Writing is simply a part of me --
necessary, enjoyable, and cathartic. I would write whether
others knew that I did, or not. I could not part with my Muse
for the world.
What isn't necessary is to post my musings for the world to
observe in a flash of exhibitionistic candour.
Why do I share my words?
Why do I happily share my worlds with everyone who cares to read?
I honestly don't know.
- Crimson
(dcri...@yahoo.com)
http://www.asstr.org/~Crimson_Dragon
http://members.tripod.com/~Dragon_Of_Crimson
Jeff Zephyr
wrote:
>Normie asked, in all innocence, something to the effect of:
>> Why did you start writing?
>
> <---===***===--->
>
>I know I must write -- writing gives me a sense of catharsis
>that I'm not sure that I could live without. Why do I write?
>Might as well ask me why I breathe or make love. I could not
>survive without. Not anymore.
>
>Writing allows me self-expression, self-exploration, and
>provides a safe escape where there wasn't any before.
>
>Why did I start? Probably, because she demanded it. The
>images weren't going away. Now, they release me with the
>stroke of an imaginary pen. But there are so many images,
>aren't there?
>
>The real mystery isn't why I write, but rather why I share my
>writing with the world, revealing myself, and accepting
>vulnerability because of it. Writing is simply a part of me --
>necessary, enjoyable, and cathartic. I would write whether
>others knew that I did, or not. I could not part with my Muse
>for the world.
>
>What isn't necessary is to post my musings for the world to
>observe in a flash of exhibitionistic candour.
>
>Why do I share my words?
>
>Why do I happily share my worlds with everyone who cares to read?
>
>I honestly don't know.
That was very wonderful ;-)
I know that I answered (and truthfully) with the "I could write
better than that!" thing, but that was a gut reaction. It explained
one of the reasons, but not why I actually went and did it. Being
*able* to do better is to be hoped for. Or at least, to do something
you find better for your desires.
Turning that desire into actual stories is another matter. It
takes a lot of work, and made me respect those whose efforts didn't
meet my standards. At least, they went and wrote, then dared to post
them for everyone to see!
Not only that, posting is sending them out into the void. Even if
you get some responses, they are only a smattering of those who might
look at them. I appreciate feedback, but don't require it. I'm sure
I could keep on writing even if nobody bothered to tell me my stories
were good.
Katie McN
Thank you for saying what I wanted to say but couldn't find words to
express.
Kisses Crimson,
MK
--
It's me! Your pal,
Katie McN <ka...@katiemcn.com>
Read all my stories at:
www.asstr.org\~Katie_McN\
Conjugate
celia batau <pinat...@bigplanet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Norm DePloom" <normdeploo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0CTt7.75168$Ed3.16...@typhoon.we.rr.com...
> > When I started reading sex stories on the internet my reaction to most
> (98%
> > ?) was 'I can write a better story than that.' I finally decided I had
to
> > put my keyboard where my mouth was and started writing a couple.
> >
> > I must admit that positive responses from woman still have a tendency to
> > surprise me.
Let's see, do you mean "start to write sex stories," or "start to write any
kind of fiction" or something else? If general fiction, I remember when I
was very young, perhaps 8 or 9, hearing my parents complain that one of
their favorite authors was dead and so they wouldn't have the pleasure of
awaiting a new novel. So I decided to write a story for them. It was, I
suspect, truly awful, but I have almost no memory of it in any detail.
Then, of course, when I was 14 or so, I started to write short SF stories
and tried to get them published. I got quite a nice collection of
rejections, including some nice hand-written notes from a few editors who
mostly used form rejections. Alas, when I went away to graduate school,
time for writing diminished and the market changed. Then, some years ago, I
found myself after many years of hard work in possession of a graduate
degree which was utterly useless; I could not even get a temporary job for
my first year after graduation. So I started on a novel. It went fairly
well, until I finally got a job, got back into the swing of work, and
haven't worked regularly on the Magnum Opus since.
Now, as for sex stories, I've been reading ASS and its fellows for more
years than I care to admit to. In those days there was no spam, and no
moderated newsgroups. In those ancient long-gone days, the porn was about
like it is today, except perhaps a wee bit more literate as the only folks
with 'net access then were mostly academic or professional people. But not
significantly more literate. I don't remember quite why I started writing
erotica, of which I had formerly been only a consumer. But I didn't start
until a couple of years ago. It was a combination of a couple of things.
One was a desire for approval and praise (no sarcastic comments here,
please; the job I was in was sufficiently unpleasant that a few nice e-mails
from a few fans were great). One was a desire to give back to the group.
Another was the hope that I might be able to outdo at least the worst of the
semi-literate unreadables (and I clearly can; but then, I believe some
domestic animals or artificial intelligence projects could manage as much).
That was when I took my current nym and I have only five stories for it.
And an idea for a nasty little Haloween story that never got written, oh,
two years ago? Or only one....
Conjugate
wondering where the rough sketch for that halloween idea got to
Stubby Buroak
>I could not even get a temporary job for
>my first year after graduation. So I started on a novel. It went fairly
>well, until I finally got a job, got back into the swing of work, and
>haven't worked regularly on the Magnum Opus since.
I wonder if SF/F first books have generally taken longer calendar-wise
to write, simply because for most of them there's not the same level of
needing to fit with current events and society.
Just a brain spasm.
Stubby
Hecate
>In article <9pavei$d2ur$1...@news3.infoave.net>
> "h. jekyll" <h_jeky...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>>So it's unanimous. All of us thought we could write better sex than we were
>>reading, more realistic, more stylistic, more heat, more something.
>
> Nah, I was writing a *long* time before I started posting
>anything to alt.sex.stories. I was writing because I wanted to write,
>because I had a hundred thousand stories inside me. I can't imagine
>having writer's block-- I can imagine being too depressed to write; I've
>been there-- but writer's block, where you have _nothing_ to write
>about, sounds weird to me.
It isn't where you have nothing to write. It's where you have lots to
write but can't. Hope that helps :)
--
Hecate
Why eat in, when you can eat out?
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Hecate
hypothesized that:
>When I started reading sex stories on the internet my reaction to most (98%
>?) was 'I can write a better story than that.' I finally decided I had to
>put my keyboard where my mouth was and started writing a couple.
>
>I must admit that positive responses from woman still have a tendency to
>surprise me.
<g> I started writing when I was teenager X years ago ;-). I had a
few short stories published. Then, things happened. I stopped. Then
about 1998 I found ASSD. Yes, I know that's the wrong way round <g>.
Then I found ASSM/ASS after I found EMCSA. I read some of the stories
and thought "Hmmm, have they stopped using punctuation and white space
nowadays?". Then I met Katie. She kept nudging me, in her inimitable
way, to write again. So I did.
Thank you, Katie. XXXXXXX
ragged-gothic
What is ECMSA, Hecate?
ragged-gothic
-------------------
in holy remembrance
in scarlet bliss
Conjugate
news:qf8w7.54788$L8.16...@news2.rdc1.bc.home.com...
> Hecate wrote:
Big snip:
> > Then I found ASSM/ASS after I found EMCSA. I read some of the stories
>
> What is ECMSA, Hecate?
It's Electronic Mind-Control Stories Archive, I think. Check out ASSTR and
see; I believe it's hosted therefrom.
Conjugate
> ragged-gothic
> -------------------
> in holy remembrance
> in scarlet bliss
I can understand "holy remembrance," but what is "scarlet bliss"? Sounds
scary....
Hecate
>What is ECMSA, Hecate?
>
Erotic Mind Control Stories Archive. It's hosted on the ASSTR servers.
Address is:
:)
Iago
>Hi, ragged-gothic <demimonde{@}home{.}com>, you hypothesized that:
>
>
>>What is ECMSA, Hecate?
>>
>Erotic Mind Control Stories Archive. It's hosted on the ASSTR servers.
>Address is:
>
>http://www.mcstories.com/
>
> :)
>
Damn! She beat me on the buzzer!! ;-)
-Iago
Anoninsac
respond to the original post???)
How I started writing erotic stories.
I was in bed one night in that half-awake state when I saw a scene. It
involved an escort and a man. It was the climatic scene (climax scene
lol) of a play. It was vivid in detail and I 'knew' her story. My mind
telescoped into the past and then the future and the whole story lay
before me. I woke and quickly sketched the play in three scenes.
But when I sat down to write the play I realized I didn't know
anything about being an escort. I could write what I knew about the
story, but the details, the emotional context of her life, I didn't
know. I felt that the play lacked realism. So I started hanging around
several web sites.
At first, most of the women treated me as a guy to hustle. When they
realized I wasn't there to be a client most blew me off. But a couple
of the women when they saw I was serious about learning about the
business took me under their wing and explained the life. What it was
like, how it worked and the emotional life of a 'working' girl. I
learned the peculiar language of the 'hobby.' I read client guides on
how it works from the guy's perspective and escort guides on how it
works from the girl's perspective, the sadness, the dangers, the
problems and the fulfillment possible. While most women hate the
'life' a few actually enjoy it. The details of the play come from
these sources. After a few months I could sling the slang.
So I wrote my play. I had several ladies read it and they came back
with suggestions on making it more realistic. One woman I met who had
been an escort was working on her Ph.D. in Literature at a
Pennsylvania college and offered many good suggestions about the play.
She also was complimentary about it. I think the play is pretty good
and I hope I can get somebody to produce it one of these days.
Having met some nice ladies I, well to say became friends is an
exaggeration, at least became online friends. One lady, Adele, liked
reading 'bedtime stories.' She said if I was a writer why couldn't I
write her a bedtime story, and make it erotic thank you very much.
Well, a guy has to take up a challenge like that. Three's Company was
written for her. That was my first story. I also met a lady in a chat
room whose husband was a regular at the ranches. She invited me to
meet her on one of their trips to Reno. She said what's good for the
gander certainly is good for the goose. Several of the Reno stories
were written for or about her, Brianna, A Foursome. Not long after
that she decided to give brothels a try herself. A Friendly Fuck was
written for her when she tried working in a brothel for two weeks.
No, I didn't go to Reno to meet her. Darn.
All these stories and not one was real. They are about women I have
never met in the flesh, only through the Internet. It's almost sad.
Yeah, I went window shopping in the red light district of Amsterdam.
But I was with a bunch of middle aged American women who wanted to see
it. Even if I was tempted, which I was not particularly, I could just
see me saying to the ladies, 'Excuse me could you hold my coat while I
boff this tart.' And it's true that we used to have our squadron
parties downstairs at the AnabellaHaus brothel in Germany. But I never
went upstairs. I guess those stairs were too steep for me. A house
full of women wanting to make the beast with two backs and I get the
willies. What a wimp.
I have always wondered what it would be like… I feel another story
coming on.
After writing several brothel stories for various ladies I had the
bug. So I wrote a story for myself. It was a fantasy story, my
fantasy. Tammy was the story. I liked it so I wrote another and
another. Many of the stories start with a real incident. Xandra for
instance, the first half page is real. But after that, it's all
fiction. It's too bad that of all the stories only one actually
happened. Geez, is that a bad track record or what.
So here I was with a bunch of stories complete. I came across ASSM and
the FAQ. Wow, it looks easy to publish on ASSM. I think I'll give it a
try. So I published there, have been reading other author's stories
and now I have a new source of ideas… Seducing a sexy woman like
Desdmona ;-) Now I have a site on ASSTR. Who woulda thunk it???
ragged-gothic
Thanks for the explanation, Hecate. :) I've actually
seen this website before, at least a couple of years ago,
and I had forgotten all about it.
Duran Castore
> ?) was 'I can write a better story than that.' I finally decided I had to
> put my keyboard where my mouth was and started writing a couple.
>
> I must admit that positive responses from woman still have a tendency to
> surprise me.
(hope this post doesn't go to the limbo)
(hope this post isn't too late)
Hi folks,
When yet a teen, not so long ago, I could read erotic magazines ("Ele
Ela", not much different of Playboy or Penthouse), and read the readers'
letters in its Forum. A few of the stories were good, but most were
simple and repetitive (suck, fuck, anal, done). As I grew, and got
writing experience, I discovered: "I could write better stories than
this yucky thing." So, about 1998, I begun to write sex stories, slowly,
with effort.
Then, about 1999, I found alt.sex.stories, and was fascinated by the
quality of the stories there. Only then, I had models for good erotica
writing.
Since then, I write erotica, on and off, and post a few stories.
That's it,
---------------------------------------
Duran Castore (duran_...@yahoo.com)
Eye
at
> Thanks for the explanation, Hecate. :) I've actually
> seen this website before, at least a couple of years ago,
> and I had forgotten all about it.
>
> ragged-gothic
If you have the time, check it out again. The writing gets better
every year. And some genre conventions have been shaken, not stirred.
.-)
Eye
Jim Dogget
This is so much fun to read this thread and couldn't come at a more
fitting time. I had written some stuff when I was a kid for myself
and once or twice when older, and usually when stuck in some out of
the way hotel. Right now I am on sabbatical and in a govt.rest house
in Africa with nothing to do but read or write or dream about a
sailing trip. I found Captain Steve and Jennifer Doalfer on ASSM and
thought they were wonderful. So then I decided to write a story for
my wife, who is miles away and who I only get to see every 2 or 3
weeks. The result is "Bareboaters" of which Chapter One is done. Now
I've got to get up the nerve to show it to my wife, and then the nerve
to show it to you guys. I hope she will love it but she might be
really pissed. She knows it's in the works, but she's nervous someone
will find it on my computer.
What sort of reaction have you all had when writing for a spouse or
lover?
BTW thinking up our identities has been as much fun as anything. The
Doggets are the bad side of the family in Edward Rutherfurd's "London"
saga (and that is how you spell Rutherfurd. So since yesterday I'm Jim
Dogget.
Thanks to all of you
Jim
"Paulinusfang" <paulin...@lycos.com> wrote in message news:<3bb9b5de$0$8508$cc9e...@news.dial.pipex.com>...
> Morning,
>
> I'm new to this group but an old intermittent player on ASSM as both
> Paulinusfang and Stewart Warmling.
>
> I started, if anyone is interested, when I was encouraged by two lady
> writers from the group. I had responded to a story called "Frankie & Adam"
> about two years ago. They encouraged me....in more ways than one. I'm still
> writing occasionally and now married to one of the two lady authors.
>
> I look forward to the antics here,
>
> Cheers all
>
>
> Paulinusfang/Stewart Warmling
>
>
> Norm DePloom <normdeploo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0CTt7.75168$Ed3.16...@typhoon.we.rr.com...
> > When I started reading sex stories on the internet my reaction to most
> (98%
> > ?) was 'I can write a better story than that.' I finally decided I had to
> > put my keyboard where my mouth was and started writing a couple.
> >
> > I must admit that positive responses from woman still have a tendency to
> > surprise me.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Fella me amabo te.
> > Norm DePloom
> > ;-})>
> >
> >
Stasya T. Canine
wrote:
>Hello everybody
Hello back. :)
>What sort of reaction have you all had when writing for a spouse or
>lover?
>
Mine or theirs?
Not that it matters. If I got to the point of writing something,
we've all viewed it as something very special, and treasured , for
many reasons.
>BTW thinking up our identities has been as much fun as anything. The
chuckling...
This nym was something I picked almost on an impulse for reasons I
thought were good ones at the time. Still eminently valid but with
hindsight I wish I'd created a different one.
The other nyms I've used over the years have had a bit more thought
put into them. I've also had some fun and frustration, too, as I
tried to match the name to the personality I was building. (I once
spent a bit of time on some talkers--as a human, a furry, or an
animal--depending on whatever was suitable at the time.)
---
"Give a minute...
Give the gift of friendship to a stranger."
--Stasya T. Canine, September 14, 2001--
~~~
http://storiesonline.net/Stasya_T_Canine
http://www.furnation.com/Nikkolai - Furry, general audience
Jeff Zephyr
wrote:
>Hello everybody
Welcome to the funhouse (tm)!
>This is so much fun to read this thread and couldn't come at a more
>fitting time. I had written some stuff when I was a kid for myself
>and once or twice when older, and usually when stuck in some out of
>the way hotel. Right now I am on sabbatical and in a govt.rest house
>in Africa with nothing to do but read or write or dream about a
>sailing trip. I found Captain Steve and Jennifer Doalfer on ASSM and
>thought they were wonderful. So then I decided to write a story for
>my wife, who is miles away and who I only get to see every 2 or 3
>weeks. The result is "Bareboaters" of which Chapter One is done. Now
>I've got to get up the nerve to show it to my wife, and then the nerve
>to show it to you guys. I hope she will love it but she might be
>really pissed. She knows it's in the works, but she's nervous someone
>will find it on my computer.
Well, writing for your wife/lover is a nice thing to do, especially
if you tell interesting stories. That is my prime reason for writing
now (OK, I could just tell her the stories, but writing is more
permanent, and works when I'm not around).
As for finding stuff on the computer, there are security measures,
including the very simple password-protected zip files. That won't
stop a determined file-hunter sort of person, but will block any
casual checking. I have a number of them on my system completely
unrelated to sex stories (proprietary company stuff and such things),
so a few more won't seem unusual.
>What sort of reaction have you all had when writing for a spouse or
>lover?
Write some more, please?
>BTW thinking up our identities has been as much fun as anything. The
>Doggets are the bad side of the family in Edward Rutherfurd's "London"
>saga (and that is how you spell Rutherfurd. So since yesterday I'm Jim
>Dogget.
I've always been a Z person, that's my main explanation. There are
others, of course, but that is a good one to start.
Norm DePloom
| >Doggets are the bad side of the family in Edward Rutherfurd's "London"
| >saga (and that is how you spell Rutherfurd. So since yesterday I'm Jim
| >Dogget.
|
| I've always been a Z person, that's my main explanation. There are
| others, of course, but that is a good one to start.
|
nom de plume, I need a good nom de plume...". It just became Norm DePloom
as I thought about it.
Gary Jordan
My story's a little different. I called upon my vast powers of imagination,
then looked at my driver's licence...
Gary Jordan
"Old submariners never die. They just go down longer."
"This communicating of a man's self to his friend works two contrary effects,
for it redoubleth joys, and cutteth griefs in half." - Francis Bacon, Essays
Pedro Vila
I've always liked that one.
I think you beat a few
people to the punch.
I wanted a clever nomenclature,
But I ended up watching too
much "This old house"
as a kid.
Bob Vila had a mexican brother.
That's where he got his
cheap supplies.
Pedro Vila
"I kin get it for ya real cheap, mang."
Jeff Zephyr
wrote:
>Norm added:
>
>>"Jeff Zephyr" <jeff...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:3be1a587$0$35574$272e...@news.execpc.com...
>>| On 1 Nov 2001 01:14:02 -0800, jim_d...@hotmail.com (Jim Dogget)
>>|
>>| >BTW thinking up our identities has been as much fun as anything. The
>>| >Doggets are the bad side of the family in Edward Rutherfurd's "London"
>>| >saga (and that is how you spell Rutherfurd. So since yesterday I'm Jim
>>| >Dogget.
>>|
>>| I've always been a Z person, that's my main explanation. There are
>>| others, of course, but that is a good one to start.
>>|
>>As I worked on my first story I kept thinking over and over "I need a good
>>nom de plume, I need a good nom de plume...". It just became Norm DePloom
>>as I thought about it.
>
>My story's a little different. I called upon my vast powers of imagination,
>then looked at my driver's licence...
If I did that, everyone would think I'd made it up as an alias :-)
I wanted people to think that I had *some* imagination.
den...@tanstaafl.zipcon.net
forth, saying:
>On 02 Nov 2001 05:55:32 GMT you talked about...
>
>>My story's a little different. I called upon my vast powers of
>imagination,
>>then looked at my driver's licence...
>
>To be honest, mine was the result of a misunderstanding. <g>
>
>Regards,
Ummm... what is your 'sig' supposed to be/say? Agent renders it into
a series of odd characters.
(One hopes that Knickers doesn't dance to Chubby Checker's big hit...)
-denny-
"I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him
with a terrible resolve ... "
-- Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, Dec. 8th, 1941
Jeff Zephyr
>On Fri, 03 Nov 2001 21:11:14, sara...@yahoo.co.uk (Knickers) held
>forth, saying:
>
>>On 02 Nov 2001 05:55:32 GMT you talked about...
>>
>>>My story's a little different. I called upon my vast powers of
>>imagination,
>>>then looked at my driver's licence...
>>
>>To be honest, mine was the result of a misunderstanding. <g>
>>
>>Regards,
>
>Ummm... what is your 'sig' supposed to be/say? Agent renders it into
>a series of odd characters.
I don't know, but Knickers is posting with *Stargate* !!! I didn't
know anyone was even trying to use that for email/news anymore. I
haven't used THOR (another nice Agent-like app, and a reason that I
went with Agent on the PC even though (sigh) it doesn't have scripting
like THOR).
I still use my Amiga, but not for net stuff. The PC is just easier
to use that way/
>(One hopes that Knickers doesn't dance to Chubby Checker's big hit...)
>
>
>-denny-
>
>"I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him
>with a terrible resolve ... "
>-- Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, Dec. 8th, 1941
--
Nikolai
Jeff Zephyr wrote:
>
> On 02 Nov 2001 05:55:32 GMT, pjc...@aol.come.to.bed (Gary Jordan)
> wrote:
>
> >Norm added:
> >
> >>"Jeff Zephyr" <jeff...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:3be1a587$0$35574$272e...@news.execpc.com...
> >>| On 1 Nov 2001 01:14:02 -0800, jim_d...@hotmail.com (Jim Dogget)
> >>|
> >>| >BTW thinking up our identities has been as much fun as anything. The
> >>| >Doggets are the bad side of the family in Edward Rutherfurd's "London"
> >>| >saga (and that is how you spell Rutherfurd. So since yesterday I'm Jim
> >>| >Dogget.
> >>|
> >>| I've always been a Z person, that's my main explanation. There are
> >>| others, of course, but that is a good one to start.
> >>|
> >>As I worked on my first story I kept thinking over and over "I need a good
> >>nom de plume, I need a good nom de plume...". It just became Norm DePloom
> >>as I thought about it.
> >
> >My story's a little different. I called upon my vast powers of imagination,
> >then looked at my driver's licence...
>
> If I did that, everyone would think I'd made it up as an alias :-)
> I wanted people to think that I had *some* imagination.
>
I got mine because of a character I played in a game. For some reason,
everyone thought my character was Russian, and started calling
'Nicholas' 'Nikolai' and it kinda went from there...
-Nikolai
Vershnyk
wrote in news:3be333c1$0$43576$272e...@news.execpc.com:
> On 02 Nov 2001 05:55:32 GMT, pjc...@aol.come.to.bed (Gary Jordan)
> wrote:
>
>>
>>My story's a little different. I called upon my vast powers of
>>imagination, then looked at my driver's licence...
But when you don't have a driver's license, you have no choice other
than use of imagination. And that may result in something everybody
can see in 'From' line :).
> If I did that, everyone would think I'd made it up as an alias
> :-)
> I wanted people to think that I had *some* imagination.
(lol) So, you really are John Z.* Smith, aren't you?
* You said you always was a Z person :)
--
Vershnyk
Ray
"Vershnyk" <vers...@nym.alias.net> wrote in message
news:200111071110...@nym.alias.net...
Naw, his RL name is probably Zebidiah Zimmermann <g>
Ray
Jeff Zephyr
You...
I shouldn't say anything, that way no one else will figure it out
:-)
den...@tanstaafl.zipcon.net
forth, saying:
>> (lol) So, you really are John Z.* Smith, aren't you?
>>
>> * You said you always was a Z person :)
>>
>
>Naw, his RL name is probably Zebidiah Zimmermann <g>
No, Zeb Carter. (middle name John, and he is originally from
Virginia...)
Jeff Zephyr
>On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 10:26:16 -0500, "Ray" <ray1031@_cac.net> held
>forth, saying:
>
>>> (lol) So, you really are John Z.* Smith, aren't you?
>>>
>>> * You said you always was a Z person :)
>>>
>>
>>Naw, his RL name is probably Zebidiah Zimmermann <g>
>
>No, Zeb Carter. (middle name John, and he is originally from
>Virginia...)
That is what happens when I talk too much, dropping hints here and
there on the newsgroup. Fortunately, it isn't like there are random
readers who might actually *know* who I am (outside of sex story
groups) around here, is it? :-)
Vershnyk
wrote in news:3be9d35c$0$65162$272e...@news.execpc.com:
> On Wed, 07 Nov 2001 12:57:30 -0800, den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 10:26:16 -0500, "Ray" <ray1031@_cac.net> held
>>forth, saying:
>>
>>>Naw, his RL name is probably Zebidiah Zimmermann <g>
>>
>>No, Zeb Carter. (middle name John, and he is originally from
>>Virginia...)
>
> That is what happens when I talk too much, dropping hints here and
> there on the newsgroup. Fortunately, it isn't like there are
> random readers who might actually *know* who I am (outside of sex
> story groups) around here, is it? :-)
But we know.
All this guessing is just smoke screen to cover the fact of our
knowledge and confuse casual onlookers.
:-)
--
Vershnyk
Jeff Zephyr
Fortunately for me, they are are easily confused. Even this highly
revealing post won't clue them into the secret :-)
Sagittaria
> That is what happens when I talk too much, dropping hints here
> and
> there on the newsgroup. Fortunately, it isn't like there are
> random readers who might actually *know* who I am (outside of sex
> story groups) around here, is it? :-)
>
Would it be so bad if they did? How about everyone else? How would
you feel if a coworker, family member, potential employer, school
teacher, your teenage child, or whoever, discovered your posts here and
on ASSM? Do you deliberately try to hide your identity online?
--
---->Sagittaria<----
!gc
Jeff Zephyr
<sagit...@softhome.net> wrote:
>Jeff Zephyr <jeff...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:3be9d35c$0$65162$272e...@news.execpc.com:
>
>> That is what happens when I talk too much, dropping hints here
>> and
>> there on the newsgroup. Fortunately, it isn't like there are
>> random readers who might actually *know* who I am (outside of sex
>> story groups) around here, is it? :-)
>>
>
>Would it be so bad if they did? How about everyone else? How would
>you feel if a coworker, family member, potential employer, school
>teacher, your teenage child, or whoever, discovered your posts here and
>on ASSM? Do you deliberately try to hide your identity online?
Yes.
OK, not perfectly, but I do take care about some details. In large
part, this is because I decided that it would be good to do a life
story tale, and I would rather not embarrass any of the other people
in it by identifying them indirectly by making it clear who *I* am.
Now, that isn't a big part of the potential readers, I'm sure. But
it is something I am concerned about. My family, most especially.
After all, they appear often in the stories, and they might not take
well my portrayal -- even if I am being 100% honest and correct (hard
to be sure about one's own perceptions, but I try).
Especially, my parents, who don't really know that much about my
childhood, and would never let me live down all that I've did -- if
they didn't disown me or worse. Recently, my father brought up the
incident in JZL11_11 (not yet out). He *knew* about that one, and
still seemed a bit upset about it -- yet as you might notice, I have a
lot of other chapters, and those we managed to keep secret.
Outside of the JZL series, just in the area of sex story writing, no
big deal. If I used a different nym for those stories, I would even
feel comfortable with telling *most* of the above people about doing
it. Or at the least, if they found out I wouldn't be too embarrassed,
or harmed.
That is a hazard of doing "true stories." I have had fleeting
thoughts of presenting them entirely as fiction (and my disclaimers
give me an out to say that if caught -- but those involved might doubt
that claim), and not trying to do them as part of a full life story.
But one reason for doing it as that kind of tale is that the links
between the relationships, continuity, and the exploration of my own
feelings works much better as a single tale, not trying to use it
merely as inspiration. My memory is pretty good about some things,
like how a given lover looked when we first went out, or how each new
person taught me something new.
On the other hand, there are some current friends who know that I
have an interest in erotic stories and writing them. But I haven't
spread around my online identity, for the reasons above.
Uther Pendragon
> Jeff Zephyr <jeff...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:3be9d35c$0$65162$272e...@news.execpc.com:
>> there on the newsgroup. Fortunately, it isn't like there are
>> random readers who might actually *know* who I am (outside of sex
>> story groups) around here, is it? :-)
> Would it be so bad if they did? How about everyone else? How would
> you feel if a coworker, family member, potential employer, school
> teacher, your teenage child, or whoever, discovered your posts here and
> on ASSM? Do you deliberately try to hide your identity online?
Jeff has already answered this for himself.
As for me, I put a fair amount of effort into hiding my other identity.
First of all, I have opponents who wouldn't mind spreading the word that
"[Uther] writes dirty stories on the Internet. You know the sort I mean."
Second, I don't think [Mrs. Uther] would be terribly pleased.
--
Uther Pendragon FAQs http://www.nyx.net/~anon584c
anon...@nyx.net fiqshn http://www.asstr.org/~Uther_Pendragon
Gary Jordan
>Sagittaria <sagit...@softhome.net> wrote:
>> Jeff Zephyr <jeff...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:3be9d35c$0$65162$272e...@news.execpc.com:
>
>>> there on the newsgroup. Fortunately, it isn't like there are
>>> random readers who might actually *know* who I am (outside of sex
>>> story groups) around here, is it? :-)
>
>> Would it be so bad if they did? How about everyone else? How would
>> you feel if a coworker, family member, potential employer, school
>> teacher, your teenage child, or whoever, discovered your posts here and
>> on ASSM? Do you deliberately try to hide your identity online?
>
>Jeff has already answered this for himself.
>
>As for me, I put a fair amount of effort into hiding my other identity.
>
>First of all, I have opponents who wouldn't mind spreading the word that
>"[Uther] writes dirty stories on the Internet. You know the sort I mean."
>
>Second, I don't think [Mrs. Uther] would be terribly pleased.
I guess I 'came out of the closet' because:
First, my boss and coworkers know about my hobby. I recently got a 10% raise,
but I don't think the issues are connected. I did autograph copies of my
stories for one of them. <G>
Second, there is no Mrs. Gary anymore, the children are old enough to know,
*do* know, and profess not to be emabarrassed. (We won't tell my granddaughter
just yet.)
Third, I have received two e-mails asking if I was that Gary Jordan they went
to school with back in <fitb> (one yes, one no). The "yes" was very surprised,
since that wasn't the way she remembered me. ("You used to be so shy. You
were the only boy I knew who wasn't always thinking about sex." She didn't
know me very well at all, but I *was* shy.)
Gary Jordan
"Old submariners never die. But sometimes, they're out of their depth."
den...@tanstaafl.zipcon.net
held forth, saying:
>As for me, I put a fair amount of effort into hiding my other identity.
>
>First of all, I have opponents who wouldn't mind spreading the word that
>"[Uther] writes dirty stories on the Internet. You know the sort I mean."
>
>Second, I don't think [Mrs. Uther] would be terribly pleased.
The second of these points could lead to a very long thread, and would
demand the alt.callahans keyword, "WORMS" -- so I won't address it
other than to say I'm somewhat surprised.
Me, I don't write, and have never bothered to try to anonymise myself.
<shrug> I have no particular reason to, so I don't.
Anoninsac
> Jeff Zephyr <jeff...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:3be9d35c$0$65162$272e...@news.execpc.com:
>
> > That is what happens when I talk too much, dropping hints here
> > and
> > there on the newsgroup. Fortunately, it isn't like there are
> > random readers who might actually *know* who I am (outside of sex
> > story groups) around here, is it? :-)
> >
>
> Would it be so bad if they did? How about everyone else? How would
> you feel if a coworker, family member, potential employer, school
> teacher, your teenage child, or whoever, discovered your posts here and
> on ASSM? Do you deliberately try to hide your identity online?
I guess all I have to do is point to my handle to answer the second
question lol. I have 'revealed' myself to other writers who I believe
would be discreet. Would it be a problem at work? Yeah, probably.
After all, I am a staid, conservative, finance guy and work to
maintain that image. No children so no problem. Church might be an
issue lol.
Sven the Elder
The first is not a problem thought the knowledge of who I am would now cost
me my present job.
A to your second point - well the present Mrs Sven did find out and we have
that in common, LOL - you could indeed say she wasn't very pleased. In fact
I thought I was dead! But that as they say was another story and also a
little while ago now. Lets just say we got over it, eventually! <smile>
Take care
Sven ( who almost didn't get any more (further?) Elder than he then was!
:-)
On 15/11/01 6:01 am, in article 10058037...@irys.nyx.net, "Uther
Conjugate
news:10058037...@irys.nyx.net...
>
> As for me, I put a fair amount of effort into hiding my other identity.
>
> First of all, I have opponents who wouldn't mind spreading the word that
> "[Uther] writes dirty stories on the Internet. You know the sort I mean."
Several responses come to mind. "Why that rascal Mordred! Is there no
depth to which he will not sink!" Or perhaps, "Yes, Mr. President, and your
secret is safe with us." Less amusingly, maybe something like "Don't worry,
Osama; your opponents can't do much worse than what they've already
accomplished."
> Second, I don't think [Mrs. Uther] would be terribly pleased.
To say nothing of what would happen if somebody tipped off the little
Utherlets.
Conjugate
who puts token effort into concealing his true identity, until people find
out
about the X-ray vision and vulnerability to Kryptonite.
Sagittaria
>
> Second, I don't think [Mrs. Uther] would be terribly pleased.
>
Gosh, that opens up a whole 'nother line of discussion. I could see
someone hiding their internet activities from their parents (or
children), but it's kind of depressing to think of hiding them from
one's SO.
Sagittaria
news:2001111513521...@nym.alias.net:
> A good article WRT using alternative identities on Usenet is here:
><http://www.privacyresources.org/frogadmin/Pol_EN_Mor.html>
>
> P.S. What does image on your X-Face mean?
Thanks. Can't get to it right now -- I'm having some strange computer
behavior. But it sounds interesting.
The picture is a stylized or caricature of a woman smiling (her bangs
cover her eyes). It's a lot clearer in color.
Jeff Zephyr
<sagit...@softhome.net> wrote:
>Uther Pendragon <anon...@nyx.net> wrote in
>news:10058037...@irys.nyx.net:
>
>
>>
>> Second, I don't think [Mrs. Uther] would be terribly pleased.
>>
>
>Gosh, that opens up a whole 'nother line of discussion. I could see
>someone hiding their internet activities from their parents (or
>children), but it's kind of depressing to think of hiding them from
>one's SO.
I don't know if that is what Uther meant. Maybe it meant that
having *others* find out about this activity would displease her?
In my case, one of the reasons I got around to writing stories was
because I told them to my SO. Writing them down was just a way to
make it easier to share them.
Vershnyk
in news:Xns915ACCE4F...@127.0.0.1:
> The picture is a stylized or caricature of a woman smiling (her
> bangs cover her eyes). It's a lot clearer in color.
Oh, I suspected this, but wasn't sure. It may have been your picture,
or even
some obscene symbol, given the nature of this group :)
Thanks for clarification.
--
Vershnyk
Anne747
>Would it be so bad if they did? How about everyone else? How
>would you feel if a coworker, family member, potential employer,
>school teacher, your teenage child, or whoever, discovered your
>posts here and on ASSM? Do you deliberately try to hide your
>identity online?
I think most people have to worry about potential employers and current ones.
You just don't know that all of them can distiguish 'personal time' from 'work
time'.
Some of my family know about the writing (but not the website), and some
friends know about one or both. Those I've been involved with almost always
know about both.
It basically comes down to who knows how much detail about my private life, and
sexual preferences. I don't usually discuss sexual details at work, so the
writing wouldn't come up.
Now, as to do I hide my identity online - yes. Early experiences with some
very creepy guys taught me the value of keeping specific details to myself.
And made me learn the value of an email address that doesn't allow pings.
Anne
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>And made me learn the value of an email address that doesn't allow pings.
I meant fingers instead of pings.
Jeff Zephyr
<conj...@butter.toast.net> wrote:
>Uther Pendragon <anon...@nyx.net> wrote in message
>news:10058037...@irys.nyx.net...
>>
>> As for me, I put a fair amount of effort into hiding my other identity.
>>
>> First of all, I have opponents who wouldn't mind spreading the word that
>> "[Uther] writes dirty stories on the Internet. You know the sort I mean."
>
>Several responses come to mind. "Why that rascal Mordred! Is there no
>depth to which he will not sink!" Or perhaps, "Yes, Mr. President, and your
>secret is safe with us." Less amusingly, maybe something like "Don't worry,
>Osama; your opponents can't do much worse than what they've already
>accomplished."
Heh heh :-)
>> Second, I don't think [Mrs. Uther] would be terribly pleased.
>
>To say nothing of what would happen if somebody tipped off the little
>Utherlets.
Sure, could you just see the reaction at school when their friends
go on about "You're Daddy is a perverted sex story writer!"
OTOH, how much worse is that than letting the kids find out you were
a porn actor or something like that?
>who puts token effort into concealing his true identity, until people find
>out
>about the X-ray vision and vulnerability to Kryptonite.
Well, there seem to be a bunch of people around like that. So I
don't know how much of a giveway that one is :-)
Uther Pendragon
treated as married -- which treatment includes some privileges
extended by society and those other than the spouse -- owe,
thereby, obligations to others than their spouses to obey the
general rules for married folk.
I was corrected, and corrected withut contradiction. The married
partnership is *not* obliged to keep any rules which they may
have excluded from the wedding vows.
Now Sagittaria sees an exception.
Sagittaria <sagit...@softhome.net> wrote:
> Uther Pendragon <anon...@nyx.net> wrote in
> news:10058037...@irys.nyx.net:
> > Second, I don't think [Mrs. Uther] would be terribly pleased.
> >
> Gosh, that opens up a whole 'nother line of discussion. I could
> see someone hiding their internet activities from their parents
> (or children), but it's kind of depressing to think of hiding
> them from one's SO.
So that a married person is *obliged* to be open about one's
Internet activities with one's spouse.
That is in line with the marriage vow:
"Will you love her, honor her, keep her and inform her of all
your postings, in sickness and in health, ...."
- = -
As Jeff pointed out, what I said was that [Mrs. Uther] wouldn't
be pleased if my participation in the ASS* forum became known.
However, no, I don't tell her. I barely tell her about some of my
posting under my own name.
- = -
Somebody posted that they hadn't written anything on ASSD of
which they were ashamed. Either that person was naive, or he
has an enviable set of acquaintances.
I'm not afraid of my friends reading "He Doesn't Love Her Like I
Do." I think it is a sensitive story; it might make them think
I was a sensitive person. I *am* afraid of their being told that
I wrote a story of a young girl having sex with a dog.
Vinnie Tesla
was kind of depressing, not immoral.Take it as a compliment--that you
should have to hide such lovely and romantic stories as yours from
your spouse.
--Vinnie
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 22:48:27 GMT, quoth the Uther Pendragon
<anon...@nyx.net>:
Jeff Zephyr
>Just grabbing a quote from the original message (I think) to reply...
>
>>Would it be so bad if they did? How about everyone else? How
>>would you feel if a coworker, family member, potential employer,
>>school teacher, your teenage child, or whoever, discovered your
>>posts here and on ASSM? Do you deliberately try to hide your
>>identity online?
>
>I think most people have to worry about potential employers and current ones.
>You just don't know that all of them can distiguish 'personal time' from 'work
>time'.
Those of us whose positions have some public evaluation or exposure
are more likely to worry about that. The fact is that for some
people, they *would* lose their job, maybe even their career, if it
came out.
One reason that I never got into politics, you know?
The other is that I don't like lying, and trying to play a
politician (OK, it isn't mostly hurtful lies, but often politeness,
but the need to keep things secret in order to get things done is
bothersome).
>Some of my family know about the writing (but not the website), and some
>friends know about one or both. Those I've been involved with almost always
>know about both.
I keep the website secret (except from my SO), but the writing is
less so. Not exactly what I do with it, but the idea that I do have
some interest in it and have tried writing things (not mentioning
posting, though) has come up. Two of my siblings are aware of that
part, but we don't get to talking about our childhood adventures much.
Therefore, trying to bring up the fact that I'm writing about it seems
a bit difficult. If it is hard to talk about, reading about it will
force that, and make it even more difficult.
OTOH, maybe someday I (or the others) won't feel that way.
But in my case, I don't just risk exposing me, but also them.
Actually, I suspect that any writer has some risk of that, if their
characters can reasonably be construed to be representations of people
they know. It matters not that the stories are pure fiction, if your
acquaintance-readers assume that it is not!
>It basically comes down to who knows how much detail about my private life, and
>sexual preferences. I don't usually discuss sexual details at work, so the
>writing wouldn't come up.
That applies too. I like talking about sex, like we do here, but it
isn't something that I'd bring up with professional friends. If they
turned into personal ones, that might change.
>Now, as to do I hide my identity online - yes. Early experiences with some
>very creepy guys taught me the value of keeping specific details to myself.
>And made me learn the value of an email address that doesn't allow pings.
(Fingers, ID, easy tracing, those are what you want to avoid).
Yes, this part is a good idea. There are creepy people out there,
for real.
Conjugate
Jeff Zephyr <jeff...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3bf6ef1c$0$30975$272e...@news.execpc.com...
> On 17 Nov 2001 14:01:39 -0000, Vershnyk <vers...@nym.alias.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On 15 Nov 2001 16:34:47 GMT, Jeff Zephyr <jeff...@hotmail.com>
> >wrote in news:3bf3f042$0$35571$272e...@news.execpc.com:
Big snip...
> >> But you could have used an entirely different nym, and some other
> >> Ukrainian could be posting here.
> >
> >That's what I would tell to someone who would've discovered ASSD on
> >my PC (not very likely, but possible). "It's not me, I'm just
> >lurker reading for the sake of literature and improving my English". :)
>
> That works for me. There are enough people on the net that it is
> believable.
I'm reminded of the old stories of the Bastard Operator From Hell. There's
one in which he is publically answering questions on the way he's running
the (mainframe) system. He calmly responds to one question by finding the
individual's user-id, looking up the record, and saying, "Oh, yes, you spend
a lot of time on the alt.sex.with.sailors.dressed.in.mums.clothing group,
don't you?" Upon being told hastily that the presence on the newsgroup is
"for research," he replies, "Hmmm...do a lot of story posting for a
researcher, don't you?"
Conjugate
Jeff Zephyr
wrote:
>Some time ago, I wrote that I felt people who wanted to be
>treated as married -- which treatment includes some privileges
>extended by society and those other than the spouse -- owe,
>thereby, obligations to others than their spouses to obey the
>general rules for married folk.
>
>I was corrected, and corrected withut contradiction. The married
>partnership is *not* obliged to keep any rules which they may
>have excluded from the wedding vows.
Some people think that way. But the problem with that is that
*other* people can have their own differences in wedding vows and
expectations, and there is no way you can live up to all of them.
Especially the contradictory ones/
>Now Sagittaria sees an exception.
>
>Sagittaria <sagit...@softhome.net> wrote:
> > Uther Pendragon <anon...@nyx.net> wrote in
> > news:10058037...@irys.nyx.net:
>
> > > Second, I don't think [Mrs. Uther] would be terribly pleased.
> > >
> > Gosh, that opens up a whole 'nother line of discussion. I could
> > see someone hiding their internet activities from their parents
> > (or children), but it's kind of depressing to think of hiding
> > them from one's SO.
>
>So that a married person is *obliged* to be open about one's
>Internet activities with one's spouse.
>
>That is in line with the marriage vow:
>"Will you love her, honor her, keep her and inform her of all
>your postings, in sickness and in health, ...."
Yes, that is the one :-)
One little honest thing is that sometimes, your SO doesn't care
enough about such things to want to know about them. Even if told,
you might be very disappointed to have the revelation to be dismissed
iwth a "That's nice, dear. Now, what should we have for dinner?"
> - = -
>
>As Jeff pointed out, what I said was that [Mrs. Uther] wouldn't
>be pleased if my participation in the ASS* forum became known.
>
>However, no, I don't tell her. I barely tell her about some of my
>posting under my own name.
I don't keep postings secret, but we don't read over each other's
shoulders either. Not without an invitation, anyway.
>Somebody posted that they hadn't written anything on ASSD of
>which they were ashamed. Either that person was naive, or he
>has an enviable set of acquaintances.
Or both. When you feel it is safe to tell all your friends, it may
be that none has yet given you the reasons that some of us other folks
decline to do so.
OK, I'm not ashamed. I just think that some people might take it
the wrong way.
>I'm not afraid of my friends reading "He Doesn't Love Her Like I
>Do." I think it is a sensitive story; it might make them think
>I was a sensitive person. I *am* afraid of their being told that
>I wrote a story of a young girl having sex with a dog.
That could be a problem for some people.
I know that one of my key criteria for very good friends is
tolerance, openness, and acceptance of differences in lifestyle. It
is darned hard to get along (for me at least) well with someone who
isn't that way. Otherwise, at some point, if we talk about pasts (or
even present) something will come up which will be too much, and
things might turn ugly.
Online, anonymity is great. If you run into someone who decides
that you are sick, perverted, and evil, at least they won't run by
your house shooting, threaten to have your kids taken away (OK, they
might do that -- but it is hard to do if they don't know you), or
other annoyances. In RL, the risks are very real.
Even if you think this is just an intersesting fun hobby, there are
others who truly think it is evil.
den...@tanstaafl.zipcon.net
saying:
>Oops, when I said:
>
>>And made me learn the value of an email address that doesn't allow pings.
>
>I meant fingers instead of pings.
>
>Anne
There she goes again--confusing fingers with other things.
Jeff Zephyr
At that point, it becomes harder to explain, for sure :-)
Still, I can try: "I have to provide some input in order to get
useful responses. It doesn't mean that it isn't for research" "-)
Anne747
>There she goes again--confusing fingers with other things.
:P
I had a great comeback, but decided against it.... well....
Sometimes they're almost the same size!