>> The internet is for *everyone* and for you to suggest the type of reverse
>> censorship that you are <troll that you may be> is in of itself childish.

>So not conforming to your ideal is "childish".  Oh, excuse ME.  Let's do
>everything YOU want to do .

>> I believe people on a basic level deserve to be treated with respect and
>> decently. You have made choices to the other extreme (so it appears). You

>The only "crime" was being different than a small coterie of catish
>people.

>> have also expected others to conform to *you* which is selfishness at it's
>> best. The vision I have of *you* is the bull in the china shop. You are too
>> selfish to understand that *you* are not the center of the universe.

>And neither is your self-rightous and self-serving ideals.

>>And
>> that because we don't conform to *you* then you have the right to stampede
>> around like a moron/jerk/ass.

>NAME CALLING!! NAME CALLING!!! Now *that's* childish!  Sheesh.

>> Maybe this is where you get your jollies and think that you can be the boor
>> that you are not allowed to be in Real Life....but a big surprise here,
>> people do use the internet for real reasons, not because they don't have a
>> life <as you appear to be the example>.

>Yet another ad hominem. Pamela, this really isn't about *right* or
>*wrong*, is it?  This is really about what you *LIKE* and what you
>*DON'T LIKE*.  Please do not confuse these two concepts, for it will
>only make you look stupid.

>> I came onto this newsgroup because I needed the information that is
>> available here. I did not come here to have the type of childish behavior
>> that has been exhibited here by *you* and your ilk. From what I can tell,

>You have reverted to namecalling, so you have therefore exhibited
>childish behavior yourself.

>> the ISP cancelled service do the violations of the conditions of the
>> agreement. It had nothing to do with stifling free speech because the
>> person signed up with the service *knowingly*.

>It had everything to do with free speech.  It had to do with what you
>LIKE and what you DON'T LIKE.  And attempts were made to cancel accounts
>and get people off of the internet for NOT LIKING.  This is not the same
>as "WRONG",  yet that is surely what you and others have cloaked your
>actions with.  

>> Free speech *has* responsibilities too it.

>Then show me some thru your OWN behavior.

>> Free speech does not give you
>> the right to behave as a selfish moron.

>Which is exactly what some of the denizens here did.

>>It does give you the right to find
>> an appropriate newsgroup though for the type of conversation that you
>> enjoy.

>And it gives YOU the right to ignore and killfile.

>> But you are a troll and you are only trying to generate responses.

>And for this I thank you from the bottom of my troller's heart.

>> You could really care less how you do that. And as advocates of free speech
>> and the rights therein...well, you certainly do waste a lot of bandwidth on
>> this technology.

>HUH?  You make no sense at all.

>> Maybe you will find your fight better met in say
>> Kosovo....where the free speech is obviously being stifled by religious
>> groups there.

>So for posting the word "semen" here you would like to banish people to
>a war-torn nation?  What would you do to someone who said "jism"?

>> I suggest that you take a vacation to some sort of place
>> soon. Maybe your perspective on how the Real World is might be finally
>> turned to the "right" direction.

>And I thank you for your advice.  Sadly, I am on vacation this month and
>decided to spend all of my time posting to alt.sewing.  I figured that
>would be more fun than Kosovo.  You know, where the real pain is penis
>vagina.

>> -pam

>> --
>> Poster is a resident of Washington State.
>> Spammers be warned, Washington State has a Spam Law that is successfully
>> enforced.

>> Cheryl T <n...@private.com> wrote in article
>> <37726F38.8EDA0...@private.com>...
>> > jhar...@wwnet.com wrote:

>> > > I am sorry you have misinterpreted my reference.  I would like to
>> > > clarify and re-state, that it was not necessarily the  proper word for
>> > > the anatomy that disturbed me, but the vulgar and offensive "foul"
>> > > language that accompanied several posts.   This language is not used
>> > > to contribute or support their subject content....just used  for
>> > > reactionary purposes.  Those who choose to use foul language in this
>> > > forum are wrong to do so.
>> > >      So,  this "batty" seamstress doesn't mind reminding you to mind
>> > > your manners.  Just in case your mother hasn't told you in a
>> > > while.....take a moment out to treat others how you would like to be
>> > > treated.   If you take comfort in bantering that sort of language
>> > > about with your friends.....so be it.  If I want to read that sort of
>> > > language I have a hunch I could locate places or magazines to read it.
>> > > But I don't want to read it here.   JOY

>> > > On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:18:45 -0400, Cheryl T <n...@private.com> wrote:

>> > > >jhar...@wwnet.com wrote:

>> > > >> Ultimately we don't care if you are tracked down and punished....we
>> > > >> just want you to GO AWAY!

>> > > >>      It is against the law in the State of Michigan to use foul
>> > > >> language to women and children.

>> > > >>      I was really on the fence concerning the use of the legitimate
>> > > >> name for a body fluid (though I stated I thought you could have been
>> > > >> more discreet and tactful).....but I do not appreciate and will not
>> > > >> tolerate the use of foul language on our beloved newsgroup.
>> > > >> You are wrong to use that terminology in this forum.  JOY

>> > > >How could a medical/biological term be "foul"?

>> > You are telling me to treat others how I would like to be treated?  Hell
>> > woman, why don't you use some of this same critique on your own little
>> > group here?  I don't go around trying to get people's ISP accounts
>> > terminated because they say things I do not like.  How childish is THAT?
>> > Aren't those BAD MANNERS too?  The fact that your moralising is so
>> > selective completely invalidates everything else that you say.  What
>> > don't you tell those bitches who tried to close peoples' accounts down
>> > that that is no way to act?  Tell them that life and liberty are not
>> > popularity contests.

>> > If you do not like foul language, then the internet is not a good place
>> > for such a closed mind as yours.