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BEI Design

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Jun 29, 2009, 4:33:31 PM6/29/09
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I move we name a special kind of sewing problem for our dear
Sharon H. We could call it "the SHD" (Sharon H. DISASTER)
for short, (pronounced s__t). You all know the one I mean:
Almost finished with a garment, just a couple more seams to
serge, sew on the buttons, then final press and done. But,
after you carefully serge those last seams, you discover to
your HORROR that you took a bite out of the garment. :-(

I can't even do a neat appliqu� over the bite, as Sharon did
with the prom dress. It's on of the front of a shirt, the
print defies matching, too far to the side so no way to add
a pocket as a design feature. About the only fix I can
think of is to buy enough more fabric to cut an entire new
left front. <sigh> The darts are sewn, buttonholes made,
collar is finished and sleeves are in. That's would be an
awful lot of ripping-out, I'm not sure it's worth it for a
cotton camp shirt.

Seconds?

Beverly, tossing it aside for now and starting on the
faux-houndstooth silk jacket...


Lizzy Taylor

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Jun 29, 2009, 5:04:08 PM6/29/09
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How about a line of horizontal trim on one or both sides of the shirt?

Lizzy

Pogonip

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Jun 29, 2009, 5:24:55 PM6/29/09
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I love sergers, I really do. But they do sometimes get a mind of their
own and sneak a bit of fabric into their jaws, just for dessert, blast
them. Hang up the shirt for a few days while you work on the jacket.
Let your creative juices simmer. An applique does not have to be small,
neat, square or round. It can be rectangular, oval, or even a zig-zaggy
shape. It could even be something as ridiculous as encompassing both
sides of the front -- the cut side and the one that isn't damaged - like
a little boy with a fishing pole on one side and a cord running all the
way across to a fish on the hook on the other side. Or flowers with
bumblebees, dragonflies, butterflies scattered about both sides of the
shirt.

Or it could make a really nice dust rag.

HTH
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Joanne
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Kate XXXXXX

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Jun 29, 2009, 6:29:29 PM6/29/09
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Seconded.

When I was making my 'going away' outfit for my wedding (pretty pink
silk habutai with white collar and cuff, and a wrap skirt), my iron had
a 'moment' and scorched the back of the shirt slightly. Luckily a quick
wash saved it: the only damage was to the dressing in the fabric. Huge
Phew! moment there...

Not sure what to advise, other than chocolate.


--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
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BEI Design

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Jun 29, 2009, 9:57:00 PM6/29/09
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Lizzy Taylor wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
<snip> That's would be

> > an awful lot of ripping-out, I'm not sure it's worth it
> > for a cotton camp shirt.
>
> How about a line of horizontal trim on one or both sides
> of the shirt?

Just got back from the fabric store, they did not have ANY
of the fabric left. :-(

You got me thinking, though, thanks. The accidental cut is
about an inch away from the front left armscye. I'm using
McCalls 3541, I think I have large enough scraps to recut
the upper left front, starting just below the top of dart
and running up to the shoulder. If I work it just right, I
can make it look like it was supposed to be a shoulder
princess seam on that side, and maybe I'll continue the dart
on the right side up to the shoulder, stitching right on the
fold to make it match.

Beverly

BEI Design

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Jun 29, 2009, 10:04:27 PM6/29/09
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Pogonip wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
<snip>
> > awful lot of ripping-out, I'm not sure it's worth it
> > for a cotton camp shirt.
> >
> > Seconds?
> >
> > Beverly, tossing it aside for now and starting on the
> > faux-houndstooth silk jacket...

>
> I love sergers, I really do. But they do sometimes get a
> mind of their own and sneak a bit of fabric into their
> jaws, just for dessert, blast them.

That's not exactly the word I used. ;-}

> Hang up
> the shirt
> for a few days while you work on the jacket.

The jacket is cut out, back darts are sewn, I made a run to
TSWLTH for matching serger thread. UGH, they have gone to
some off brand with half the thread at twice the cost. No
thanks, I'll run over to The Mill End Store tomorrow.

>
> Let your
> creative juices simmer. An applique does not have to be
> small, neat, square or round. It can be rectangular,
> oval, or even a zig-zaggy shape. It could even be
> something as ridiculous as encompassing both sides of the
> front -- the cut side and the one that isn't damaged -
> like a little boy with a fishing pole on one side and a
> cord running all the way across to a fish on the hook on
> the other side. Or flowers with bumblebees, dragonflies,
> butterflies scattered about both sides of the shirt.

I was seriously going to rip it apart and cut a new left
front, but Fabric Depot had no more of the fabric, so I'm
back in think mode. Lizzy suggested adding a horizontal
band, and while I'm not sure that would work, I may have
large enough scraps to cut a new left front shoulder, making
the new bit look like a shoulder princess seam. I'll work
on it tomorrow.

>
> Or it could make a really nice dust rag.

There's always that. ;-}

Beverly


BEI Design

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Jun 29, 2009, 10:12:43 PM6/29/09
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Kate XXXXXX wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
<snip>

> > That's would be


> > an awful lot of ripping-out, I'm not sure it's worth it
> > for a cotton camp shirt.
> >
> > Seconds?
>
> Seconded.

Thank you, all those in favor, say "aye".

Those opposed, say nay.

Hearing none, the motion is carried, from now on serger foul
ups will be called "SHDs" in honor of the Queen of Creative
Patches in AR.

> When I was making my 'going away' outfit for my wedding
> (pretty pink silk habutai with white collar and cuff, and
> a wrap skirt), my iron had a 'moment' and scorched the
> back of the shirt slightly. Luckily a quick wash saved
> it: the only damage was to the dressing in the fabric.
> Huge Phew! moment there...

I have had the occasional close call with my iron as well.
Recent one was a scorch mark on the McKellar tartan!
Luckily, it came out with hydrogen peroxide and water.

> Not sure what to advise, other than chocolate.

Mmm, sounds about right, I have some chocolate pudding and
strawberries awaiting my attention.

Beverly


Kate XXXXXX

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Jun 30, 2009, 2:37:59 AM6/30/09
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BEI Design wrote:

> Mmm, sounds about right, I have some chocolate pudding and
> strawberries awaiting my attention.

mmm... Perfect! Got any champagne to go with it? Champagne goes well
with strawberries...

BEI Design

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"Kate XXXXXX" <ka...@diceyhome.free-online.co.uk> wrote in
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> BEI Design wrote:
>
>> Mmm, sounds about right, I have some chocolate pudding
>> and strawberries awaiting my attention.
>
> mmm... Perfect! Got any champagne to go with it?
> Champagne goes well with strawberries...

I thought champagne went well with just about everything.
;-) I enjoyed the strawberries and chocolate last night,
now I'm about to tackle a repair to the shirt.

Beverly


Sharon Hays

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Jun 30, 2009, 4:04:17 PM6/30/09
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BEI Design wrote:


> Thank you, all those in favor, say "aye".
>
> Those opposed, say nay.
>
> Hearing none, the motion is carried, from now on serger foul
> ups will be called "SHDs" in honor of the Queen of Creative
> Patches in AR.


Look what happens when I don't read the group for a day or so. LOL


While I'm thrilled (!?!?!?) to have an award named after me, and delighted
to be named Queen of something, I'm terribly sorry you had an {insert
colorful expletives here} moment in the sewing room. :(

And it's always the way......the only of that fabric to be had, you have.
*sigh* I can mail you some scraps from the prom dress if you would like to
applique some of that on there in an interesting shape...... I'm running
now.....

Sharon
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time and just annoys the
pig.

BEI Design

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Jun 30, 2009, 8:19:12 PM6/30/09
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Sharon Hays wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
>
>
> > Thank you, all those in favor, say "aye".
> >
> > Those opposed, say nay.
> >
> > Hearing none, the motion is carried, from now on serger
> > foul
> > ups will be called "SHDs" in honor of the Queen of
> > Creative
> > Patches in AR.
>
>
> Look what happens when I don't read the group for a day
> or so. LOL

<Waves> Hi, Queen Sharon! ;-)

> While I'm thrilled (!?!?!?) to have an award named
> after
> me, and delighted to be named Queen of something, I'm
> terribly sorry you had an {insert colorful expletives
> here} moment in the sewing room. :(

I wasn't even rushing, just plain careless. My ankles are
bruised.

> And it's always the way......the only of that fabric to
> be had, you have. *sigh* I can mail you some scraps from
> the prom dress if you would like to applique some of that
> on there in an interesting shape...... I'm running
> now.....

Gee, let's see, how would a small appliqu� of "black with
white embroidery fabric" look on my "swirled all over like
Monet's lily pad flower garden fabric" camp shirt look? Uh,
NO! But thanks. ;-)

Beverly


Sharon Hays

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Jun 30, 2009, 9:18:09 PM6/30/09
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BEI Design wrote:

> Sharon Hays wrote:
>> BEI Design wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Thank you, all those in favor, say "aye".
>> >
>> > Those opposed, say nay.
>> >
>> > Hearing none, the motion is carried, from now on serger
>> > foul
>> > ups will be called "SHDs" in honor of the Queen of
>> > Creative
>> > Patches in AR.
>>
>>
>> Look what happens when I don't read the group for a day
>> or so. LOL
>
> <Waves> Hi, Queen Sharon! ;-)

<queenly wave back>

>> And it's always the way......the only of that fabric to
>> be had, you have. *sigh* I can mail you some scraps from
>> the prom dress if you would like to applique some of that
>> on there in an interesting shape...... I'm running
>> now.....
>
> Gee, let's see, how would a small appliqu� of "black with
> white embroidery fabric" look on my "swirled all over like
> Monet's lily pad flower garden fabric" camp shirt look? Uh,
> NO! But thanks. ;-)
>
> Beverly

Well....the embroidery is actually a metallic silver....and I know that
makes ALL the difference!! LOL

Do you have any embroidery designs that would look good with it? You could
always fill in the hole with another fabric, then embroider over the top of
the whole thing. If you picked the colors to match (ha! Beverly
matching.....lookout!!!) it would be a texture thing but not necessarily a
JUMP OUT at you piece of embroidery. Duplicate it here and there on the
shirt and it would become a design choice rather than a mistake. ;) Just
one more thought to throw in the mix. But as Queen I think my opinions
carry more weight right??? LOL

DS says my birthday is over now so I can't be Queen any more. Rotten child.

BEI Design

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Jul 1, 2009, 2:38:17 AM7/1/09
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Sharon Hays wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
>
> > Sharon Hays wrote:
> > > BEI Design wrote:
<snip>

> > > Look what happens when I don't read the group for a
> > > day
> > > or so. LOL
> >
> > <Waves> Hi, Queen Sharon! ;-)
>
> <queenly wave back>

Remember: wrist, wrist, hand, hand, hand....

<more snip happens>

> Well....the embroidery is actually a metallic
> silver....and I know that makes ALL the difference!! LOL

Oh yeah, that'll look great. The bite is about 1.5" long an
inch from the armscye seam allowance, about even with the
fullest part of the (ahem) bust. So a little black and
silver "something" right there would be a big improvement.
;-}

> Do you have any embroidery designs that would look good
> with it? You could always fill in the hole with another
> fabric, then embroider over the top of the whole thing.
> If you picked the colors to match (ha! Beverly
> matching.....lookout!!!) it would be a texture thing but
> not necessarily a JUMP OUT at you piece of embroidery.

That would work great if the damage were to some other part
of the shirt, like for instance, just above the middle of
the front hem, but no way I'm ever going to make an
embroidery design look like it was intended in the area of
the damage.

> Duplicate it here and there on the shirt and it would
> become a design choice rather than a mistake. ;)

That's way more effort than I'm willing to put into what was
going to be "just a nice cool cotton shirt". I think I may
have found enough of a scrap to add a piece of fabric
starting in line with the dart and up to the shoulder seam,
and extending over to the side seam. Means tearing out the
front of the set-in (and serged dammit) sleeve and opening
the dart, but it's doable.

> Just
> one more thought to throw in the mix. But as Queen I
> think my opinions carry more weight right??? LOL

Sure. Of course. Right.

> DS says my birthday is over now so I can't be Queen any
> more. Rotten child.

Like mother like child, I always say. ;->

Beverly, wishing Sharon a Very Happy Birthday!


Pogonip

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BEI Design

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Choke!!!... Snort!!!.... Cough!!!.... You ARE EVIL!!!
;-)

Beverly


Pogonip

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Moi? *blink*

Kate XXXXXX

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Makes Madonna look kinda inadequate.

Sharon Hays

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BEI Design wrote:


LOL Yeah, and remember if you want to go for the total Lady Gaga look, you
have to stop wearing pants. She doesn't wear them. Just tiny little
shorts that look like panties.

Nice huh? (Please note overwhelming amounts of sarcasm.)

The kiddos like a few of her songs. When she comes on the radio in the car,
I usually say "is that the chick who.." "yes, Mom, (with eyeroll) she's
the one who doesn't wear pants. (Long suffering sigh)" "oh. Ok. Just
checking. You know how I forget things sometimes."

LOL!!! Great fun

Sharon Hays

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Jul 1, 2009, 8:14:48 AM7/1/09
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BEI Design wrote:

> Sharon Hays wrote:
>> BEI Design wrote:
>>
>> > Sharon Hays wrote:
>> > > BEI Design wrote:
> <snip>
>> > > Look what happens when I don't read the group for a
>> > > day
>> > > or so. LOL
>> >
>> > <Waves> Hi, Queen Sharon! ;-)
>>
>> <queenly wave back>
>
> Remember: wrist, wrist, hand, hand, hand....
>

Precisely. ;)


> That would work great if the damage were to some other part
> of the shirt, like for instance, just above the middle of
> the front hem, but no way I'm ever going to make an
> embroidery design look like it was intended in the area of
> the damage.
>

Well then go all out. Add tassels!!!

>> Duplicate it here and there on the shirt and it would
>> become a design choice rather than a mistake. ;)
>
> That's way more effort than I'm willing to put into what was
> going to be "just a nice cool cotton shirt". I think I may
> have found enough of a scrap to add a piece of fabric
> starting in line with the dart and up to the shoulder seam,
> and extending over to the side seam. Means tearing out the
> front of the set-in (and serged dammit) sleeve and opening
> the dart, but it's doable.
>

Well alright. Just make it look normal then. ;) PITA that you have to redo
the sleeve. Sorry about that.

>> DS says my birthday is over now so I can't be Queen any
>> more. Rotten child.
>
> Like mother like child, I always say. ;->

:P lol

>
> Beverly, wishing Sharon a Very Happy Birthday!

Thank you very much. It was lovely.

Sharon
---

BEI Design

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"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> BEI Design wrote:
>> Pogonip wrote:
>>> BEI Design wrote:
>>>> Sharon Hays wrote:
>>>>> BEI Design wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sharon Hays wrote:
>>>>>>> BEI Design wrote:
>>
>>> Just passing along a little inspiration.
>>> http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/celebrity-pictures-lady-gaga-jazz-hands.jpg?w=450&h=300
>>
>> Choke!!!... Snort!!!.... Cough!!!.... You ARE EVIL!!!
>> ;-)
>>
>> Beverly
>
> Moi? *blink*

Oui, VOUS, vous �tes MAUVAIS!

Beverly

BEI Design

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Sharon Hays wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:

> >
> > Choke!!!... Snort!!!.... Cough!!!.... You ARE EVIL!!!
> > ;-)
> >
> > Beverly
>
>
> LOL Yeah, and remember if you want to go for the total
> Lady Gaga look, you
> have to stop wearing pants. She doesn't wear them. Just
> tiny little
> shorts that look like panties.
>
> Nice huh? (Please note overwhelming amounts of sarcasm.)

I tell ya' the influence on our kids is gonna ruin 'em.

> The kiddos like a few of her songs. When she comes on
> the radio in the car,
> I usually say "is that the chick who.." "yes, Mom, (with
> eyeroll) she's
> the one who doesn't wear pants. (Long suffering sigh)"
> "oh. Ok. Just
> checking. You know how I forget things sometimes."
>
> LOL!!! Great fun

I'm grateful I don't have teenagers any more, I don't think
I could stand it. ;-}

Beverly


BEI Design

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Sharon Hays wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:

> > , but no way I'm ever going to make an
> > embroidery design look like it was intended in the area
> > of
> > the damage.
> >
>
> Well then go all out. Add tassels!!!

Sharon! What have I told you about disrespecting your
elders. Harrumph.

> > Means tearing out
> > the
> > front of the set-in (and serged dammit) sleeve and
> > opening
> > the dart, but it's doable.
> >
>
> Well alright. Just make it look normal then. ;) PITA
> that you have to redo the sleeve. Sorry about that.

Yeah, well this experience will make me more careful as I'm
serging in the future, so that's a Good Thing.

> > > DS says my birthday is over now so I can't be Queen
> > > any
> > > more. Rotten child.
> >
> > Like mother like child, I always say. ;->
>
> > P lol
>
> >
> > Beverly, wishing Sharon a Very Happy Birthday!
>
> Thank you very much. It was lovely.

Good, what are you now, 59? <GD&RLH>

Beverly


Sharon Hays

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BEI Design wrote:

> Sharon Hays wrote:
>> BEI Design wrote:
>
>> >
>> > Choke!!!... Snort!!!.... Cough!!!.... You ARE EVIL!!!
>> > ;-)
>> >
>> > Beverly
>>
>>
>> LOL Yeah, and remember if you want to go for the total
>> Lady Gaga look, you
>> have to stop wearing pants. She doesn't wear them. Just
>> tiny little
>> shorts that look like panties.
>>
>> Nice huh? (Please note overwhelming amounts of sarcasm.)
>
> I tell ya' the influence on our kids is gonna ruin 'em.

We're holding firm here. Usually DD only wears shorts about 1" or so above
her knee. And prefers capris. "Seen too many folks with TOO MUCH fallin'
out their shorts, Mom." LOL And DS wears shorts that are knee length.
Sometimes, DD calls his shorts capri pants. Yeah that gets him going.

>
>> The kiddos like a few of her songs. When she comes on
>> the radio in the car,
>> I usually say "is that the chick who.." "yes, Mom, (with
>> eyeroll) she's
>> the one who doesn't wear pants. (Long suffering sigh)"
>> "oh. Ok. Just
>> checking. You know how I forget things sometimes."
>>
>> LOL!!! Great fun
>
> I'm grateful I don't have teenagers any more, I don't think
> I could stand it. ;-}
>
> Beverly

I could loan you mine, like library books, for a couple weeks. That way you
would know if you could stand it or not. <batting eyes innocently>

Sharon Hays

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BEI Design wrote:

> Sharon Hays wrote:
>> BEI Design wrote:
>
>> > , but no way I'm ever going to make an
>> > embroidery design look like it was intended in the area
>> > of
>> > the damage.
>> >
>>
>> Well then go all out. Add tassels!!!
>
> Sharon! What have I told you about disrespecting your
> elders. Harrumph.
>

Do it as often as possible??? lol

>
>>
>> Thank you very much. It was lovely.
>
> Good, what are you now, 59? <GD&RLH>
>
> Beverly

Yeah, you better RLH. Now who's evil??? Don't you have some unmatched
fabric that needs dealt with??? LOL

Off to make pizza dough....or at least stuff the ingredients in the bread
machine. ;)

Sharon

Pogonip

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Jul 1, 2009, 5:46:36 PM7/1/09
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Je suis une ange.

Pogonip

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Jul 1, 2009, 5:56:15 PM7/1/09
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Sharon Hays wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
>
>> Sharon Hays wrote:
>>> BEI Design wrote:
>>>> , but no way I'm ever going to make an
>>>> embroidery design look like it was intended in the area
>>>> of
>>>> the damage.
>>>>
>>> Well then go all out. Add tassels!!!
>> Sharon! What have I told you about disrespecting your
>> elders. Harrumph.
>>
>
> Do it as often as possible??? lol
>
>>> Thank you very much. It was lovely.
>> Good, what are you now, 59? <GD&RLH>
>>
>> Beverly
>
> Yeah, you better RLH. Now who's evil??? Don't you have some unmatched
> fabric that needs dealt with??? LOL
>
> Off to make pizza dough....or at least stuff the ingredients in the bread
> machine. ;)
>
> Sharon

Love bread machines. Love, love, love. Have two at present, have worn
out five or six before. Even have a recipe in a bread machine cookbook!
LOL!

BEI Design

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Pogonip wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
> > "Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> > news:4a4b178c$1...@news.bnb-lp.com...
> > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > Pogonip wrote:
> > > > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > > > Sharon Hays wrote:
> > > > > > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sharon Hays wrote:
> > > > > > > > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > > Just passing along a little inspiration.
> > > > > http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/celebrity-pictures-lady-gaga-jazz-hands.jpg?w=450&h=300
> > > > Choke!!!... Snort!!!.... Cough!!!.... You ARE
> > > > EVIL!!! ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Beverly
> > > Moi? *blink*
> >
> > Oui, VOUS, vous �tes MAUVAIS!
> >
> > Beverly
> >
> >
> >
>
> Je suis une ange.

Splorf!

En fran�ais, c'est <SPLORF>!!!

Beverly


BEI Design

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"Sharon Hays"
> BEI Design wrote:

>>
>> I'm grateful I don't have teenagers any more, I don't
>> think
>> I could stand it. ;-}

I should have added "don't have teenagers FULL TIME any
more". I love and adore my two DGC, and they are perfect
children. ;-)

>
> I could loan you mine, like library books, for a couple
> weeks. That way you
> would know if you could stand it or not. <batting eyes
> innocently>


Thanks ever so much! Actually, I have ready access to a
pair of teens, and I'm able to return them if/when I am
through with them. (Aaak, writing that, I realized my DGS
will be no-longer-a-teenager next June. My how time flies
when you're having fun!)

Beverly

BEI Design

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"Sharon Hays" wrote
> BEI Design wrote:
>
>> Sharon Hays wrote:
>>> Well then go all out. Add tassels!!!
>>
>> Sharon! What have I told you about disrespecting your
>> elders. Harrumph.
>>
>
> Do it as often as possible??? lol

<shaking finger at Sharon> Now, see here, Missy, don't you
be gettin' sassy with your betters.!

>>> Thank you very much. It was lovely.
>>
>> Good, what are you now, 59? <GD&RLH>
>>
>> Beverly
>
> Yeah, you better RLH. Now who's evil??? Don't you have
> some unmatched
> fabric that needs dealt with??? LOL

Today was a non-sewing day, I'm having the family here on
the 4th, and I needed to do a whole bunch of outdoor
preparation. Mowed the lawns, pruned some shrubs, washed
down the deck and all the outdoor furniture.... whew!

I'm hoping to get back to the sewing room tomorrow, the silk
jacket is about 2/3 done, I need to take fabric in to have
covered buttons made (they'll match the CF of course).

> Off to make pizza dough....or at least stuff the
> ingredients in the bread
> machine. ;)

FUN! My older DD makes scratch pizza every weekend and her
family has a home-movie night (alternating choice on what
movie to watch or rent) and pizza. I think it's a lovely
tradition, bet her kids remember those special evenings
always.

Beverly

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"Pogonip" wrote

>
> Love bread machines. Love, love, love. Have two at
> present, have worn out five or six before.

I used to love making bread, but I thought at least half the
enjoyment was the kneading, punching, rolling, shaping, etc.
Of course, I didn't make it three times a week....

> Even have a recipe in a bread machine
> cookbook! LOL!

Congratulations. Self published? <BEG>

Beverly

Pogonip

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*Pffffffffffft* http://spedr.com/27z89

BEI Design

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Pogonip wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
> > "Pogonip" wrote
> >
> > > Love bread machines. Love, love, love. Have two at
> > > present, have worn out five or six before.
> >
> > I used to love making bread, but I thought at least
> > half the enjoyment was the kneading, punching, rolling,
> > shaping, etc. Of course, I didn't make it three times a
> > week....
> > > Even have a recipe in a bread machine
> > > cookbook! LOL!
> >
> > Congratulations. Self published? <BEG>
> >
> > Beverly
> >
> >
> >
>
> *Pffffffffffft* http://spedr.com/27z89

$109.85 for a bread cookbook!!!??? Wow, what's it bound
with gold leaf?

I have James Beard's "Beard on Bread", hardbound, I'm pretty
sure it cost nowhere near that amount.

Oops, I'm wrong, one seller has it listed for $249.95.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0394473450/sr=/qid=/ref=olp_tab_new?ie=UTF8&coliid=&me=&qid=&sr=&seller=&colid=&condition=new

Gah!

Beverly


Pogonip

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I've got most of her bread cookbooks and a few other Nitty Grittys. She
used to have a newsletter that was good. But that's going back 15 years
or so now. I was tickled to see one of the reviews referred to "my"
recipe specifically. That was my "year of publication." I had a
machine knitting pattern published in the U.S. machine knitting magazine
that year, too.

BEI Design

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Pogonip wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
> > Pogonip wrote:
> > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > "Pogonip" wrote
> > > >

>


> I've got most of her bread cookbooks and a few other
> Nitty Grittys. She used to have a newsletter that was
> good. But that's
> going back 15 years or so now. I was tickled to see one
> of the reviews
> referred to "my" recipe specifically. That was my "year
> of publication." I had a machine knitting pattern
> published in the U.S. machine
> knitting magazine that year, too.

Author! Author! May I have your autograph, Ma'am? ;->

Beverly


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Yes, of course, though I am the minor author in the house, you understand.

Emily Bengston

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On 7/1/09 4:56 PM, in article 4a4bdb7a$1...@news.bnb-lp.com, "Pogonip"
<nob...@nowhere.org> wrote:

> Sharon Hays wrote:
>> BEI Design wrote:
>>
>>> Sharon Hays wrote:
>>>> BEI Design wrote:
>>>>> , but no way I'm ever going to make an
>>>>> embroidery design look like it was intended in the area
>>>>> of
>>>>> the damage.
>>>>>
>>>> Well then go all out. Add tassels!!!
>>> Sharon! What have I told you about disrespecting your
>>> elders. Harrumph.
>>>
>>
>> Do it as often as possible??? lol
>>
>>>> Thank you very much. It was lovely.
>>> Good, what are you now, 59? <GD&RLH>
>>>
>>> Beverly
>>
>> Yeah, you better RLH. Now who's evil??? Don't you have some unmatched
>> fabric that needs dealt with??? LOL
>>
>> Off to make pizza dough....or at least stuff the ingredients in the bread
>> machine. ;)
>>
>> Sharon
>
> Love bread machines. Love, love, love. Have two at present, have worn
> out five or six before. Even have a recipe in a bread machine cookbook!
> LOL!

I am now on my 3rd one bread machine, this time an Oster, and I loved all of
them. I've always baked all my bread, pastries, etc; then one day, my DB
introduced me to a bread machine and I was smitten.

Nothing better to to serve than hot, home-baked bread to family & friends;
or to give a neighbor or someone ill a loaf.
Emily

BEI Design

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Pogonip wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
> > Pogonip wrote:
> > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > Pogonip wrote:
> > > > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > > > "Pogonip" wrote
> > > > > >
> >
> > > I've got most of her bread cookbooks and a few other
> > > Nitty Grittys. She used to have a newsletter that was
> > > good. But that's
> > > going back 15 years or so now. I was tickled to see
> > > one of the reviews
> > > referred to "my" recipe specifically. That was my
> > > "year of publication." I had a machine knitting
> > > pattern
> > > published in the U.S. machine
> > > knitting magazine that year, too.
> >
> > Author! Author! May I have your autograph, Ma'am? ;->
> >
> > Beverly
> >
> >
>
> Yes, of course, though I am the minor author in the
> house, you understand.

Yes, I know, I still have three of your DH's books on my
nightstand. They seem sooooo dark, I haven't been able to
make myself read them.

Beverly


BEI Design

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Yeahbut, don't you kind of miss the whole process?

Beverly


Emily Bengston

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On 7/1/09 11:44 PM, in article h2he64$vkf$1...@news.eternal-september.org, "BEI
Design" <nobeide...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:

I didn't get one for Mother's Day as requested, so I will buy my own this
weekend. Then I'll read all next week while DS is out of town, after I
finish the stuffed dolls I am making for the baby DGD. Now that she is
almost 7-months old, she "needs" some dolls.
Emily

Emily Bengston

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On 7/1/09 11:46 PM, in article h2he8j$tc$1...@news.eternal-september.org, "BEI
Design" <nobeide...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:

Yes, I use to feel nostalgic ever so often; then I'd make a loaf of plain
wheat for us; but over time, I don't feel that way very often.

Emily

BEI Design

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Emily Bengston wrote:
> "BEI Design" wrote:

> > make myself read them.
> >
> > Beverly
> >
> >
> I didn't get one for Mother's Day as requested, so I will
> buy my own this weekend. Then I'll read all next week
> while DS is out of town, after I finish the stuffed dolls
> I am making for the baby DGD. Now that she is almost
> 7-months old, she "needs" some dolls.
> Emily

Emily, if you are making a one-of-a-kind doll, one which
cannot be replaced, MAKE TWO. I speak from experience as a
grandmother who gave a (purchased) doll to my new DGD
thirteen years ago. As luck would have it, it became her
special comfort item. By the time we realized that, the
store where I bought it no longer carried that identical
doll. As the original became more and more tatty, we tried
to sneak a replacement in for DGD to love and go to sleep
with. Nothing worked, she had to have what by then was a
really wretched looking doll. If ever it had been lost,
before DGD was ready to give it up, I think she would have
been in major melt-down mode, she was a fussy baby and that
doll was the only thing which comforted her.

I experienced the same thing with my older DD: she received
a hand-loomed one-of-a-kind WOOL blanket. She latched on to
that and it was the only thing which would do for comfort or
to get to sleep. If it need to be washed, she was desolate,
because it took so long to get dry. By the time she finally
gave it up it, I had cut it into four pieces and bound it
with a different satin binding. We struggled for about 48
hours with a very unhappy baby. She knew immediately that
the little one weren't right. I dug out the ratty old
binding and re-bound two pieces. She rejected the other two,
the ones with the new binding, she knew they weren't the
real deal. She wore out the two "real" ones.

When second DD showed signs of a similar favorite (but
fortunately store-bought) I immediately went out and bought
four more *exactly* like the original. She loved her
blankies to death, and went through three of them before
giving them up. I still have the fourth one, I keep hoping
she will have a baby so I can surprise her with it. No luck
so far. :-}

Beverly


BEI Design

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Emily Bengston wrote:
> , "BEI Design" wrote:

> > Yeahbut, don't you kind of miss the whole process?
> >
> > Beverly
> >
> >
> Yes, I use to feel nostalgic ever so often; then I'd make
> a loaf of plain wheat for us; but over time, I don't feel
> that way very often.

I loved the process, and the smell of freshly baked bread.
I had to give it up, though ... we were all getting very,
ahem, round. Store bought bread is fine and not nearly so
fresh-out-of-the-oven irresistible. ;-}

Beverly


Pogonip

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Not nearly so dark as many other mystery writers. But they are in the
noir genre.

Pogonip

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If you do, I hope you'll enjoy it. I get so tickled at all of "my"
friends who buy and read his books -- and I remind him of it at the drop
of a hat. ;-)

Pogonip

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I got one of the little Zojhirushi machines, and put my Panasonic away
for special occasions. It makes a 2 cup loaf. I like it because I can
pronounce all of the ingredients. ;-) I can decide what to put in my
bread and -- mostly -- what not to use. It also makes cake and jam, but
I haven't done that yet with this one. I had a big Zojirushi some years
ago, and put it through its paces. It got to the point that nobody
would eat store bread. Another advantage is that my vegan son eats my
bread. He has a hard time finding commercial bread.

This is the machine I have now - http://spedr.com/32mn6 And the guy I
got it from.

BEI Design

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Pogonip wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
> > Pogonip wrote:

> > > >
> > > Yes, of course, though I am the minor author in the
> > > house, you understand.
> >
> > Yes, I know, I still have three of your DH's books on my
> > nightstand. They seem sooooo dark, I haven't been able
> > to make myself read them.
> >
> > Beverly
> >
> >
>
> Not nearly so dark as many other mystery writers. But
> they are in the noir genre.

Agatha Christie, Rex Stout, Dorothy L. Sayers, Ngaio Marsh,
Stephanie Barron, Margery Allingham, Leslie Charteris, and
similar are more my type. I have read every mystery each
one has written. At one time I had the complete collection
of Agatha Christie. Sold them in a garage sale. :-(

Beverly


BEI Design

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Jul 2, 2009, 2:22:07 AM7/2/09
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Don't tempt me! That looks perfect for a one-person
household.

Beverly


Pogonip

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Jul 2, 2009, 2:44:37 AM7/2/09
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Have you ever read Ross MacDonald? He would be the strongest influence
on the author. ;-)

Pogonip

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It is. It's very handy. The loaves are smaller than the bigger
machines, too, which was part of my decision to go with it. I mean, the
slices are smaller. I enjoy the first crust when it's all crispy, and
the birds tend to get the other one. I use a wooden box with a grid to
cut the bread, then take the crumbs from it for the birds, too.

Emily Bengston

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On 7/2/09 12:29 AM, in article h2hgpo$fr5$1...@news.eternal-september.org, "BEI
Design" <nobeide...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:

Thanks for the advice, Beverly. These are just outline of a doll shape
that I cut freehand when my eldest DD was little; she's now in her mid-50s.
All the girls in the family, including the six nieces, have had them.
The nieces who have daughters & grandies have continued the tradition with
my blessing.

I've always made 2-3 at first since I know they need washing often.
The ones I am doing today, have no facial features or hair. Later, I'll
make newer ones with that added.

I know 2 of the DDs still have some of theirs. When I was in FL for her
wedding, the eldest DGD told me she still has some of hers, and I know the
10-YO also has some. In fact, she is the one who reminded me I needed to
make her baby sister some.
I don't know what happened to the other DGD's, she never mentions them.

Have a great rest of the week.
Emily

Emily Bengston

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On 7/2/09 1:00 AM, in article 4a4c4cf0$1...@news.bnb-lp.com, "Pogonip"
<nob...@nowhere.org> wrote:

If DS gets his hands on it, it will most likely end up in his suitcase next
week; we enjoy the same books. Then I'll have to wait till he's finished;
but we never discuss what we're reading till both of us have finished with
them.

Emily

Emily Bengston

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On 7/2/09 1:15 AM, in article 4a4c5094$1...@news.bnb-lp.com, "Pogonip"
<nob...@nowhere.org> wrote:

The one I have now makes a small loaf, too; and it also makes an express
loaf that is much faster than regular baking. I've used it in a pinch when
necessary.

Emily

Emily Bengston

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On 7/2/09 1:18 AM, in article h2hjma$1hq$1...@news.eternal-september.org, "BEI
Design" <nobeide...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:

Sounds like our lists of authors, but I also like John Grisham.

Emily

Pogonip

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Jul 2, 2009, 3:29:23 PM7/2/09
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I'm a big believer in sharing books. I'll recommend one, but not
discuss the plot, characters, etc., with someone who plans to read it
before they've done so. By then, I may have forgotten.

Pogonip

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This is a great site to find authors of interest to you -
http://www.booksnbytes.com/

Pogonip

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Jul 2, 2009, 3:32:27 PM7/2/09
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Emily Bengston wrote:
>
> The one I have now makes a small loaf, too; and it also makes an express
> loaf that is much faster than regular baking. I've used it in a pinch when
> necessary.
>
> Emily
>

Yes, this one does that, as does my larger Panasonic. Handy for those
times when you realize you're out of bread! Yikes!

Emily Bengston

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On 7/2/09 2:30 PM, in article 4a4d...@news.bnb-lp.com, "Pogonip"
<nob...@nowhere.org> wrote:

Thanks for the site; neither DS or I have seen it before.

Emily

Pogonip

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Jul 2, 2009, 6:39:26 PM7/2/09
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You're welcome!

BEI Design

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Jul 3, 2009, 2:12:19 PM7/3/09
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Pogonip wrote:

>
> I'm a big believer in sharing books. I'll recommend one,
> but not discuss the plot, characters, etc., with someone
> who
> plans to read it before they've done so. By then, I may
> have forgotten.

I could easily re-read all the mystery novels I read in the
60s and 70s, and the plots would all be brand new. ;-}

Beverly


BEI Design

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Pogonip wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:

>
> Have you ever read Ross MacDonald? He would be the
> strongest influence on the author. ;-)

I'd have to dig through the boxes-o'-books in the basement
to be sure, but I think yes. There were a couple of other
male mystery writers I liked, I just can't remember the
names.

Beverly


BEI Design

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Emily Bengston wrote:
>, "BEI Design" wrote:
> >
> > Agatha Christie, Rex Stout, Dorothy L. Sayers, Ngaio
> > Marsh,
> > Stephanie Barron, Margery Allingham, Leslie Charteris,
> > and
> > similar are more my type. I have read every mystery
> > each
> > one has written. At one time I had the complete
> > collection
> > of Agatha Christie. Sold them in a garage sale. :-(
> >
> > Beverly
> >
> >
> Sounds like our lists of authors, but I also like John
> Grisham.
>
> Emily

There are several others I like, but I'm not a Grisham fan.
Now, Ian Fleming on the other hand.... ;-)

Beverly


Pogonip

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Jul 3, 2009, 2:31:24 PM7/3/09
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I recently got a big order of paperback books from Amazon, and was
looking forward to diving in. Imagine my chagrin when I picked up one
and started to read it -- and thought, gee this sounds awfully
familiar.......

Pogonip

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Jul 3, 2009, 2:37:49 PM7/3/09
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I lean to the women, myself. I like Joan Hess, Nevada Barr, Dana
Stabenow, Marcia Muller, J. A. Jance, but not Patricia Cornwall or the
Higgins-Clark mother and daughter. Ruth Rendall, though she is spooky
often. Elizabeth Peters. Gosh there's a bunch!

BEI Design

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Pogonip wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
> > Pogonip wrote:
> > I could easily re-read all the mystery novels I read in
> > the 60s and 70s, and the plots would all be brand new.
> > ;-} Beverly
> >
> >
>
> I recently got a big order of paperback books from
> Amazon, and was looking forward to diving in. Imagine my
> chagrin when I picked up one and started to read it --
> and thought, gee this sounds awfully familiar.......

Yeah, they can seem familiar, but I can't quite remember it
the butler done it, so I keep reading.

Beverly


Pogonip

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Jul 3, 2009, 11:42:46 PM7/3/09
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It was one by an acquaintance, which I had read only a year ago. I try
to keep up with her output, but only in paperback as they are expensive
enough without getting into the hardbacks - which don't exchange nearly
so well. Someone is going to get a nice little present.

BEI Design

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Jul 4, 2009, 12:48:54 AM7/4/09
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Pogonip wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:

> > Yeah, they can seem familiar, but I can't quite
> > remember it the butler done it, so I keep reading.
> >
> > Beverly
> >
> >
>
> It was one by an acquaintance, which I had read only a
> year ago. I try to keep up with her output, but only in
> paperback as they are expensive enough without getting
> into the hardbacks - which don't exchange nearly so well.
> Someone is going to get a nice little present.

I was at B&N recently with younger DD. While she looked for
whatever it was she wanted, I decided to see if I could find
another biography of Thomas Jefferson. I bought one when we
were at Monticello two summers ago, and it's taken me this
long to get around to reading it. Now I want to know more.
But I was put off at the price of some of them. Yikes, I
hope at least some of that is going into the author's
pocket. Remember when hardbacks were $2.95 and paperbacks
were $.50?

Beverly


Pogonip

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BEI Design wrote:
> I was at B&N recently with younger DD. While she looked for
> whatever it was she wanted, I decided to see if I could find
> another biography of Thomas Jefferson. I bought one when we
> were at Monticello two summers ago, and it's taken me this
> long to get around to reading it. Now I want to know more.
> But I was put off at the price of some of them. Yikes, I
> hope at least some of that is going into the author's
> pocket. Remember when hardbacks were $2.95 and paperbacks
> were $.50?
>
> Beverly
>
>

Yes, yes, I do. And I know where the thrift stores that sell them for
that are. The problem is that they don't have the choices B & N and
Amazon have. But I have an Amazon credit card (actually Chase, I think)
that I use for groceries and other things as well as Amazon. Nice thing
is that every so often they send me a $25 Amazon gift card based on my
use of the card. I treat all credit cards as 30-day cards, so it's not
costing me anything to do this, except that I never seem to limit my
order to $25.

BEI Design

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I had an Amazon/Chase card, but IIRC they sent me a notice
that they were closing it because I didn't use it often
enough. <smirk> I have an American Express card through
Costco, it provides various discounts depending on the
category, and they send me a check periodically which I can
use at Costco. I also use my CCs as 30-day loans and pay
them off in full every month. They only thing they make off
of me is the merchant fees. I understand those of us who
pay off our balances every month are referred to as
"deadbeats". Pretty funny, since that term used to have a
pejorative meaning aimed at those who didn't pay their bills
*at all*.

Beverly, presently sweltering in this danged heat. I have
the whole family coming for Independence Day picnic here
tomorrow and there's still a lot to get ready !!!


Pogonip

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BEI Design wrote:
> I had an Amazon/Chase card, but IIRC they sent me a notice
> that they were closing it because I didn't use it often
> enough. <smirk> I have an American Express card through
> Costco, it provides various discounts depending on the
> category, and they send me a check periodically which I can
> use at Costco. I also use my CCs as 30-day loans and pay
> them off in full every month. They only thing they make off
> of me is the merchant fees. I understand those of us who
> pay off our balances every month are referred to as
> "deadbeats". Pretty funny, since that term used to have a
> pejorative meaning aimed at those who didn't pay their bills
> *at all*.
>
> Beverly, presently sweltering in this danged heat. I have
> the whole family coming for Independence Day picnic here
> tomorrow and there's still a lot to get ready !!!
>
>

Years ago I shopped at Costco, renewed my card every year. One year I
got a notice it was time to renew and I realized that the last time I
had been in Costco was to renew the card. Hmmmm. It was good when the
two boys were still at home, but with just the old guy and me left,
Costco just isn't useful. In fact, I recently tossed a bottle of catsup
I'd gotten there - in a pack of three - some years ago. It had gotten
rather dark. The other thing that bugged me about Costco was that when
I found something we liked, and I went back to get more, they didn't
have it anymore.

BEI Design

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Jul 4, 2009, 3:07:20 AM7/4/09
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I do understand. We first started when we had one DD still
living at home, so we were shopping for three. The large
packages of cereal, multi cans of tomato sauce, and 22#
packages of extra lean ground beef (once repackaged at home
and frozen) were a bargain. I still find garden supplies,
batteries, dry cereal and soft drinks worth the price. And
the jewelry case gets my attention. They also have really
good prices on printer ink cartridges and the best price
going on tax software and priner paper. And they have very
good prices on books as well. ;-)

Beverly


Pogonip

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BEI Design wrote:
>
> I do understand. We first started when we had one DD still
> living at home, so we were shopping for three. The large
> packages of cereal, multi cans of tomato sauce, and 22#
> packages of extra lean ground beef (once repackaged at home
> and frozen) were a bargain. I still find garden supplies,
> batteries, dry cereal and soft drinks worth the price. And
> the jewelry case gets my attention. They also have really
> good prices on printer ink cartridges and the best price
> going on tax software and priner paper. And they have very
> good prices on books as well. ;-)
>
> Beverly
>
>

I've heard they have good prices on tires, too, but I don't seem to buy
tires very often. It used to be that I could get a day pass from the
credit union, but I don't know that it's still the case. In any event,
my grocery is fairly competitive, and then there's Home Depot and Lowes.

BEI Design

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"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> BEI Design wrote:
>> Pogonip wrote:
>>> BEI Design wrote:
>>>> Pogonip wrote:
>>
>>>>> Yes, of course, though I am the minor author in the
>>>>> house, you understand.
>>>> Yes, I know, I still have three of your DH's books on
>>>> my
>>>> nightstand. They seem sooooo dark, I haven't been able
>>>> to make myself read them.
>>>>
>>>> Beverly
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Not nearly so dark as many other mystery writers. But
>>> they are in the noir genre.
>>
>> Agatha Christie, Rex Stout, Dorothy L. Sayers, Ngaio
>> Marsh, Stephanie Barron, Margery Allingham, Leslie
>> Charteris, and similar are more my type. I have read
>> every mystery each one has written. At one time I had
>> the complete collection of Agatha Christie. Sold them in
>> a garage sale. :-(
>>
>> Beverly
>
> Have you ever read Ross MacDonald? He would be the
> strongest influence on the author. ;-)

Just remembered another mystery writer I like a lot: Dick
Francis! I started one of his late-80s books several nights
ago (I always read for 30-45 minutes at bedtime) and
couldn't put it down. Finished at 7:00AM. He manages to
write such NICE protagonists and such EVIL SCARY
antagonists. I think I have read all of his books.

Beverly


Pogonip

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Jul 13, 2009, 4:43:22 PM7/13/09
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BEI Design wrote:
> Just remembered another mystery writer I like a lot: Dick
> Francis! I started one of his late-80s books several nights
> ago (I always read for 30-45 minutes at bedtime) and
> couldn't put it down. Finished at 7:00AM. He manages to
> write such NICE protagonists and such EVIL SCARY
> antagonists. I think I have read all of his books.
>
> Beverly
>
>

Dick Francis has gone to the great racetrack in the sky, but I think
it's his nephew who is continuing to write in his name. Actually,
Francis' wife was his collaborator over the years, and she added a lot
to the quality of his work. I've enjoyed his books, too. He really
knew the racing world, and horses. People, too.

Kate XXXXXX

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Jul 13, 2009, 6:25:28 PM7/13/09
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Pogonip wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
>> Just remembered another mystery writer I like a lot: Dick Francis! I
>> started one of his late-80s books several nights ago (I always read
>> for 30-45 minutes at bedtime) and couldn't put it down. Finished at
>> 7:00AM. He manages to write such NICE protagonists and such EVIL
>> SCARY antagonists. I think I have read all of his books.
>>
>> Beverly
>>
>
> Dick Francis has gone to the great racetrack in the sky, but I think
> it's his nephew who is continuing to write in his name. Actually,
> Francis' wife was his collaborator over the years, and she added a lot
> to the quality of his work. I've enjoyed his books, too. He really
> knew the racing world, and horses. People, too.

He's not dead yet! Mary, his wife, dies in 2000, and he now
collaborates with younger son Felix.

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Jul 13, 2009, 6:27:47 PM7/13/09
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Mr Francis is excellent. Another of my favourite murder/mystery writers
is Catherine Aird.

Pogonip

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Jul 13, 2009, 6:45:07 PM7/13/09
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Kate XXXXXX wrote:
> Pogonip wrote:
>> BEI Design wrote:
>>> Just remembered another mystery writer I like a lot: Dick Francis!
>>> I started one of his late-80s books several nights ago (I always read
>>> for 30-45 minutes at bedtime) and couldn't put it down. Finished at
>>> 7:00AM. He manages to write such NICE protagonists and such EVIL
>>> SCARY antagonists. I think I have read all of his books.
>>>
>>> Beverly
>>>
>>
>> Dick Francis has gone to the great racetrack in the sky, but I think
>> it's his nephew who is continuing to write in his name. Actually,
>> Francis' wife was his collaborator over the years, and she added a lot
>> to the quality of his work. I've enjoyed his books, too. He really
>> knew the racing world, and horses. People, too.
>
> He's not dead yet! Mary, his wife, dies in 2000, and he now
> collaborates with younger son Felix.
>
> http://www.dickfrancis.com/site/DIFR/Templates/Home.aspx?pageid=3&cc=GB
>

Ooops! I thought it was Dick that died. Well....I was wrong once
before, you know. I thought I'd made a mistake.........

BEI Design

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Jul 13, 2009, 10:47:46 PM7/13/09
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Ah ha! She is another author I couldn't remember when I
wrote my list.

I am happy that Dick Francis is still writing. I read many
of his novels even though I'm not generally a "horsy"
person. But you don't have to understand steeplechase or
flat racing to enjoy his books. I just finished "Straight"
(c. 1989). Terrific as always.

Beverly


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