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anitaprinz

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Nov 29, 2008, 5:40:48 PM11/29/08
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anitaprinz

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Nov 29, 2008, 5:42:48 PM11/29/08
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With the hook properly (?) positioned in the machine, the needle will not
descend properly. It keeps striking the metal of the hook rather than
descending through the holes. If you know what I'm doing wrong, please
send me email at anita...@gmail.com. Thanks.

robb

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Nov 29, 2008, 6:55:45 PM11/29/08
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"anitaprinz" <anitaprinz_at...@foo.com> wrote in
message news:4931c567$0$7750$6c36...@news.usenetserver.com...

>
> With the hook properly (?) positioned in the machine, the
needle will not
> descend properly. It keeps striking the metal of the hook
rather than
> descending through the holes. If you know what I'm doing
wrong, please
> send me email at anita...@gmail.com. Thanks.
>

I do not know that you are doing anything wrong, but i'll post my
help here for others to see.

the needle goes through holes in the needle plate. once it
descends the most that it can (dead bottom) into the bobbin case
it stops and starts ascending. Just after the ascension begins
the hook will swish past the tip of the needle just above the eye
as the needle is moving back up. The hook catches the thread loop
behind the needle to form the stitch.

At what point in that mechanism does the needle contact the hook
?

Hook to needle contact can be...

bent needle, too large needle, bent hook, needle deflection from
needle plate or thread wad , bent needle bar, needle installed
incorrectly, bad alignment between head and the base (eg. after
dropping machine) ,etc....


hth
robb

Judie in Penfield NY

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Nov 29, 2008, 9:18:28 PM11/29/08
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anitaprinz wrote:
> With the hook properly (?) positioned in the machine, the needle will not
> descend properly. It keeps striking the metal of the hook rather than
> descending through the holes. If you know what I'm doing wrong, please
> send me email at anita...@gmail.com. Thanks.
>
>

Replied privately

Suzy

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Nov 30, 2008, 12:29:40 AM11/30/08
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"anitaprinz" <anitaprinz_at...@foo.com> wrote in
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>
> With the hook properly (?) positioned in the machine, the
> needle will not
> descend properly. It keeps striking the metal of the hook
> rather than
> descending through the holes. If you know what I'm doing
> wrong, please
> send me email at anita...@gmail.com. Thanks.

This is Usenet, not e-mail. What starts on the newsgroup
STAYS on the newsgroup. Others besides yourself may
possibly benefit from public replies.


Suzy

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Nov 30, 2008, 12:33:50 AM11/30/08
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"Judie in Penfield NY" <jlluisi...@invalid.invalid>
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Why? Was there no chance at all that your information might
have been of interest to or helped others in the group?


hubops

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Nov 30, 2008, 8:10:57 AM11/30/08
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>> With the hook properly (?) positioned in the machine,
>> the needle will not descend properly.
>> It keeps striking the metal of the hook rather than
>> descending through the holes.
>> If you know what I'm doing wrong, please
>> send me email at anita...@gmail.com. Thanks.


>I do not know that you are doing anything wrong, but i'll post my
>help here for others to see.

>The needle goes through holes in the needle plate.


>once it descends the most that it can (dead bottom)
> into the bobbin case it stops and starts ascending.
>Just after the ascension begins the hook will swish
>past the tip of the needle just above the eye
>as the needle is moving back up.
>The hook catches the thread loop
>behind the needle to form the stitch.
>
>At what point in that mechanism does the needle
>contact the hook ?
>
>Hook to needle contact can be...
>
>bent needle, too large needle, bent hook, needle deflection from
>needle plate or thread wad , bent needle bar, needle installed
>incorrectly, bad alignment between head and the base (eg. after
>dropping machine) ,etc....
>hth
>robb

Thanks for the informative reply, robb.
I think that I recently ruined the plastic
shuttle gear on my Elna SU - from a
very slightly bent needle - does this seem plausible ?
or do I have other more serious problems ?
John T.

Judie in Penfield NY

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Nov 30, 2008, 7:20:42 PM11/30/08
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Suzy wrote:
>
> Why? Was there no chance at all that your information might
> have been of interest to or helped others in the group?
>
>

Are you the usenet police????

Had I thought anyone else NEEDED to know I would have replied on the
newsgroup.

Taria

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Nov 30, 2008, 8:01:25 PM11/30/08
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I was wondering why folks post that they 'reply privately'.
No criticism, I was just curious why. Actually
was thinking about it from a msg. on another group yesterday
so thought since you replied that way you could 'splain it
to me Judie.
Taria

Judie in Penfield NY

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Nov 30, 2008, 8:17:28 PM11/30/08
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Taria wrote:
> I was wondering why folks post that they 'reply privately'.
> No criticism, I was just curious why. Actually
> was thinking about it from a msg. on another group yesterday
> so thought since you replied that way you could 'splain it
> to me Judie.
> Taria
>

Mostly because I've seen others do so, especially when it seems to
involve things we can't do on usenet as it's "text only"

Next time I will just "reply privately" and keep it to myself as I
should have done.

Judie

robb

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Nov 30, 2008, 9:02:44 PM11/30/08
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"Taria" <tariaw...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ggvd17$qd6$1...@news.motzarella.org...

> I was wondering why folks post that they 'reply privately'.
> No criticism, I was just curious why. Actually
> was thinking about it from a msg. on another group yesterday
> so thought since you replied that way you could 'splain it
> to me Judie.
> Tari

The reasons people post "replied privately" is veiled as a
courtesy to the group or to the OP showing that someone has
attempted to help the OP. Another reason is the answer is of
such a personal/sensitive nature that the responder does not
want it posted publicly ? possibly other reasons ...

as i understand that is contrary to the usenet philosophy of
sharing with the community,
others may have a similar problem and find the responses helpful.

$0.02
robb

Pogonip

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Nov 30, 2008, 9:11:51 PM11/30/08
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Since USENET is archived and searchable, the answer could have been
helpful to someone else, some other time. That's why I prefer posted
responses.

Secondly, some (not saying this is the case here) people regard USENET
as their personal support, and will ask a question, requesting an email
response, because they can't be bothered to read when they don't have a
particular need. Rude people, which of course is not the case here as
far as I know.

2 cents more, not adjusted for inflation.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/

Taria

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Nov 30, 2008, 11:03:22 PM11/30/08
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Thanks Judie. I just was trying to figure out if I was missing
something. Often I do. LOL
I figure you can post anything you like. This is an unmoderated
group and your msg is yours.
taria


Judie in Penfield NY wrote:

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Dec 1, 2008, 12:04:11 AM12/1/08
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On Nov 30, 6:20 pm, Judie in Penfield NY

>
>
I've got to agree with Suzy, this Anita person should not have asked
for a private reply. If she's going to be asking for help on a public
group she should expect to read the solution on the group and not ask
for private instructions. We don't know who is lurking here that
might want to join in and are not comfortable putting their personal e-
mail address out there for every squirrel to see. It's not a "one
person NEEDED to know and she's the only one I'm telling" question, if
you can't reply and help everyone in this group if you have the answer
you don't need to be picking and choosing who is to benefit from your
knowledge. We t-r-y to help everyone, not just those who ask for a
private reply.

And before you jump down my throat with a smartass reply, NO I'm not
the internet police, but I know better than to do this and you should
too.

robb

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Dec 1, 2008, 7:05:01 AM12/1/08
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"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:493347e4$1...@news.bnb-lp.com...

oops I forgot to fix [OT] the header on my previous post ;)

I agree Joanne,

Many times i have searched usenet for solutions to a variety of
problems and many times i have found useful links, ideas and even
useful expanded search terms to use especially in older posts :)

People pop in and out of these groups , sometimes taking very
helpful information with them. Hiding their help from others or
the future posters seems rude or selfish or just .......

I've popped into some obscure groups just to get some help but i
try to stick around long enough to give some info/help back if i
can.

I guess i need to get my act together and start figuring like our
fellow usenet figurer Taria...

Quote Taria : " I figure you can post anything you like. This is


an unmoderated group and your msg is yours."

me thinks someone has missed the point of usenet. what generation
thinks this way ? i haven't kept up with the various
generational monikers and flavors since the widespread use of the
term X-gen or gen-X-ers.

well I just had an idea ...
usenet used to be a sort of round table where anyone who joined
the group took a spot at the table and either helped or was
helped. Now usenet is viewed as more of a coffee shop. You enter
a room of tall tables for two. You wonder around with your coffee
grumbling and groaning about some problem while passing by
people with the same problems, instead, you look for a friendly
or inviting face at a half-empty table that seems to say, "i
share your interest and i might be able to help you" . You stop,
maybe sit down, chat privately about the matter and then you
both walk away happy and proud to have been helpful or found the
helpful information that you needed. It is too bad those other
grumbling shmoes weren't as lucky as you. They are probably
still back there grumbling about their needle, hook, thread and
stitch problems. Loosers. :)

anyway back to reality,
robb


The Wanderer

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Dec 1, 2008, 9:48:39 AM12/1/08
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 07:05:01 -0500, robb wrote:

<snipped some very valid comments>


> anyway back to reality,

Reading the comments in the original thread, there were so many things I
was bursting say, but in the end I just had to keep on asking myself 'Am I
really adding anything useful?' Which is why this is my only comment! :-)

--
Richard

Better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool
Than to open it and remove all doubt (Mark Twain)

hubops

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Dec 1, 2008, 6:42:42 PM12/1/08
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< snips >

>I've got to agree with Suzy, this Anita person should not have asked
>for a private reply. If she's going to be asking for help on a public
>group she should expect to read the solution on the group and not ask
>for private instructions. We don't know who is lurking here that
>might want to join in and are not comfortable putting their personal e-
>mail address out there for every squirrel to see. It's not a "one
>person NEEDED to know and she's the only one I'm telling" question, if
>you can't reply and help everyone in this group if you have the answer
>you don't need to be picking and choosing who is to benefit from your
>knowledge. We t-r-y to help everyone, not just those who ask for a
>private reply.
>And before you jump down my throat with a smartass reply, NO I'm not
>the internet police, but I know better than to do this and you should
>too.


Asking for an email reply - does not necessarily mean
"private reply" nor preclude a public usenet posting.
I took it as someone who would appreciate
and be-sure-to-see an email - but might miss a usenet post,
for some reason.
I too would prefer to see the reply - for everyone's info.
.. another 2 cents worth.
John T.

Judie in Penfield NY

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Dec 1, 2008, 9:32:38 PM12/1/08
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itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

if you can't reply and help everyone in this group if you have the answer
> you don't need to be picking and choosing who is to benefit from your
> knowledge. We t-r-y to help everyone, not just those who ask for a
> private reply.
>
> And before you jump down my throat with a smartass reply, NO I'm not
> the internet police, but I know better than to do this and you should
> too.

Really??? How kind of you to point that out to me and in such a helpful
manner.

The Wanderer

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Dec 2, 2008, 2:18:33 AM12/2/08
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I'm minded of the proud mum watching her army son marching with his
comrades. 'Ooh look, my son's the only one in step!'

:-)

--
Richard

Caffeine isn't addictive as long as you keep taking it.

robb

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Dec 4, 2008, 1:11:37 PM12/4/08
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"The Wanderer" <wand...@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2ri6x3mhi388.7...@40tude.net...

> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 07:05:01 -0500, robb wrote:
>
> <snipped some very valid comments>
>
> > anyway back to reality,
>
> Reading the comments in the original thread, there were so many
things I
> was bursting say, but in the end I just had to keep on asking
myself 'Am I
> really adding anything useful?' Which is why this is my only
comment! :-)
>

Well,
i posted only a smidgen of what i desired to say and less than
what needed to be said.

The value is there if the demand were not lacking :)

Although, i did place an SRP value on my comments at $0.02
i like to think the comments had the potential for greater
value.

In an OT post it is hard to add any value

robb

ABSTAINER, n. A weak person who yields to the temptation of
denying
himself a pleasure. A total abstainer is one who abstains from
everything
but abstention, and especially from inactivity in the affairs of
others.
(
"Devil's Dictionary", Ambrose Bierce)

The Wanderer

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Dec 4, 2008, 2:01:53 PM12/4/08
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:11:37 -0500, robb wrote:


> "Devil's Dictionary", Ambrose Bierce)

A brilliant lexicon, should be on everyone's book shelf!

--
Richard

I may be omniscient, but don't expect me to know everything.

robb

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Dec 4, 2008, 7:25:18 PM12/4/08
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"The Wanderer" <wand...@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:11:37 -0500, robb wrote:
>
>
> > "Devil's Dictionary", Ambrose Bierce
>
> A brilliant lexicon, should be on everyone's book shelf!
> --
> Richard
> I may be omniscient, but don't expect me to know everything.
>

i agree and i have a well thumbed copy on my shelf.

i wish i could pick a favorite entry but there are
too many great entries to choose.

robb

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