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Pogonip

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Jul 21, 2008, 5:17:37 AM7/21/08
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Friday was my birthday. A big one. With a zero. And a large number
before the zero. Beverly knows. I'm blazing a trail.

I got a call from my older son, said he was on his lunch break but
wanted to call to wish me a happy birthday because he would be out later
that day. I thanked him, and told him to go get his lunch while he
could. He mentioned that my younger son would probably call in the evening.

I had no sooner hung up the phone than there was a knock on the front
door. I went to see who it was, and it was my two boys!!!!

They had flown in from Seattle, and called from the cab on their way
from the airport.

I have never been so surprised in my fairly long life. What a treat!

We visited and went out to dinner together and had a great time.

Of course, they got together with friends Saturday, each going his own
way to see different people. But they reported to me that at some time
Saturday evening, they wound up in the same bar. That has never
happened to them in Seattle, and it isn't like there aren't a lot of
nightspots in Reno.

Today I took them to the airport to go home, thanking them for the best
birthday present ever. Plus, they'll be back in two weeks when the
older one is helping the younger one move back to Reno.
Whooooopeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/

Mary Fisher

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Jul 21, 2008, 5:50:12 AM7/21/08
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"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> Friday was my birthday. A big one. With a zero. And a large number
> before the zero. Beverly knows. I'm blazing a trail.
>
> I got a call from my older son, said he was on his lunch break but wanted
> to call to wish me a happy birthday because he would be out later that
> day. I thanked him, and told him to go get his lunch while he could. He
> mentioned that my younger son would probably call in the evening.
>
> I had no sooner hung up the phone than there was a knock on the front
> door. I went to see who it was, and it was my two boys!!!!
>
> They had flown in from Seattle, and called from the cab on their way from
> the airport.
>
> I have never been so surprised in my fairly long life. What a treat!

Worth getting old for :-)

Belated greetings!

Go on, tell us the first figure ... my next one will be 7 :-)

Mary


IMS

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Jul 21, 2008, 7:14:37 AM7/21/08
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Happy belated birthday, Joanne! What a wonderful surprise; yes those
boys are great....and they love their mom :)

-Irene

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:17:37 -0700, Pogonip <nob...@nowhere.org>
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Juno

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Jul 21, 2008, 9:33:39 AM7/21/08
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Happy Birthday Joanne, What a great surprise. "Ain't" kids great!! You
know you did everything right for them and now they are doing fight for you.
Juno

Emily Bengston

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Jul 21, 2008, 9:57:06 AM7/21/08
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On 7/21/08 4:50 AM, in article
48845c55$0$18188$4c56...@master.news.zetnet.net, "Mary Fisher"
<mary....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

I will hit the double 7 in a few months, meaning the 8 will arrive sooner
than desired. Some days, though, I still think I'm the age of my youngest
DD, mid 50s.
Emily

BEI Design

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Jul 21, 2008, 11:20:47 AM7/21/08
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Pogonip wrote:
> Friday was my birthday. A big one. With a zero. And a
> large number before the zero. Beverly knows. I'm
> blazing a trail.

Happy (Very Big Number) Birthday Joanne, you old fart. ;->

Congratulations on rearing such wonderful sons.

Beverly, a very slightly younger old fart


The Wanderer

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Jul 21, 2008, 1:17:23 PM7/21/08
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:17:37 -0700, Pogonip wrote:

> Friday was my birthday. A big one. With a zero. And a large number
> before the zero. Beverly knows. I'm blazing a trail.

So does this make you officially a Grumpy Old Woman?


--
Richard - The older I get, the better I used to be!

the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Pogonip

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Jul 21, 2008, 2:45:09 PM7/21/08
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Mary Fisher wrote:
>
> Worth getting old for :-)
>
> Belated greetings!
>
> Go on, tell us the first figure ... my next one will be 7 :-)
>
> Mary
>
>

I just beat you to it. ;-)

Pogonip

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Jul 21, 2008, 2:46:22 PM7/21/08
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Thank you, Beverly, but please show a little more respect for your
elders. ;-)

Pogonip

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Jul 21, 2008, 2:47:13 PM7/21/08
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Emily Bengston wrote:
>>
>>
> I will hit the double 7 in a few months, meaning the 8 will arrive sooner
> than desired. Some days, though, I still think I'm the age of my youngest
> DD, mid 50s.
> Emily
>

Yes, age ain't nuthin' but a number, as the Uppity Blues Women have
sung. Anyway, 70 is the new 40.

Pogonip

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Jul 21, 2008, 2:47:56 PM7/21/08
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Juno wrote:
>>
> Happy Birthday Joanne, What a great surprise. "Ain't" kids great!! You
> know you did everything right for them and now they are doing fight for
> you.
> Juno

Thank you. But I'm not so sure about that -- I think they turned out
right in spite of me. ;-)

Pogonip

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Jul 21, 2008, 2:49:20 PM7/21/08
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The Wanderer wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:17:37 -0700, Pogonip wrote:
>
>> Friday was my birthday. A big one. With a zero. And a large number
>> before the zero. Beverly knows. I'm blazing a trail.
>
> So does this make you officially a Grumpy Old Woman?
>
>

Absolutely! Have been for 40 years already! LOL!! My stepdaughter
says I'm a crone. Then quickly mentions that she's referring to the
Maiden-Mother-Crone hierarchy.

Mary Fisher

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Jul 21, 2008, 3:07:12 PM7/21/08
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"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> Emily Bengston wrote:
>>>
>>>
>> I will hit the double 7 in a few months, meaning the 8 will arrive sooner
>> than desired. Some days, though, I still think I'm the age of my
>> youngest
>> DD, mid 50s.
>> Emily
>>
>
> Yes, age ain't nuthin' but a number, as the Uppity Blues Women have sung.
> Anyway, 70 is the new 40.

I'd rather be 70!

Mary


Mary Fisher

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Jul 21, 2008, 3:07:43 PM7/21/08
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"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> Juno wrote:
>>>
>> Happy Birthday Joanne, What a great surprise. "Ain't" kids great!! You
>> know you did everything right for them and now they are doing fight for
>> you.
>> Juno
>
> Thank you. But I'm not so sure about that -- I think they turned out
> right in spite of me. ;-)

That's what I used to say about ours :-)

Mary


Mary Fisher

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Jul 21, 2008, 3:08:32 PM7/21/08
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"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> Mary Fisher wrote:
>>
>> Worth getting old for :-)
>>
>> Belated greetings!
>>
>> Go on, tell us the first figure ... my next one will be 7 :-)
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>
> I just beat you to it. ;-)

Show-off!

Mary


Mary Fisher

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Jul 21, 2008, 3:08:53 PM7/21/08
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"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> BEI Design wrote:
>> Pogonip wrote:
>>> Friday was my birthday. A big one. With a zero. And a
>>> large number before the zero. Beverly knows. I'm
>>> blazing a trail.
>>
>> Happy (Very Big Number) Birthday Joanne, you old fart. ;->
>>
>> Congratulations on rearing such wonderful sons.
>>
>> Beverly, a very slightly younger old fart
>
> Thank you, Beverly, but please show a little more respect for your elders.
> ;-)

Hurrah! Well said :-)

Mary


Mary Fisher

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Jul 21, 2008, 3:10:20 PM7/21/08
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"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> The Wanderer wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:17:37 -0700, Pogonip wrote:
>>
>>> Friday was my birthday. A big one. With a zero. And a large number
>>> before the zero. Beverly knows. I'm blazing a trail.
>>
>> So does this make you officially a Grumpy Old Woman?
>>
>>
>
> Absolutely! Have been for 40 years already! LOL!! My stepdaughter says
> I'm a crone. Then quickly mentions that she's referring to the
> Maiden-Mother-Crone hierarchy.

Our 'children' used to refer to us as the Aged Parents. That was in the
1970s.

Now they have 'children' of 23yo down :-)

Crones rule!

Mary


needles Mcgee

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Jul 21, 2008, 3:54:18 PM7/21/08
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Hi- delurking to - happy birthday - and your story made me misty.

lissa

BEI Design

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Jul 21, 2008, 4:47:21 PM7/21/08
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Pogonip wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
> > Pogonip wrote:
> > > Friday was my birthday. A big one. With a zero. And
> > > a large number before the zero. Beverly knows. I'm
> > > blazing a trail.
> >
> > Happy (Very Big Number) Birthday Joanne, you old fart.
> > ;-> Congratulations on rearing such wonderful sons.
> >
> > Beverly, a very slightly younger old fart
> >
> >
>
> Thank you, Beverly, but please show a little more respect
> for your elders. ;-)

Being nine months and twenty-four days older doesn't count
towards being an "elder". ;-ş

Beverly

Sharon Hays

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Jul 21, 2008, 5:17:42 PM7/21/08
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Happy Birthday Joanne!!! That was a FABULOUS story about your sons. What
great guys. Sounds like you had a glorious birthday. :)

Hope you remembered at some point to put on your Queen of the Universe
tiara. I try to remember to put mine on about 10 minutes after breakfast
on my birthdays. ;)

Sharon
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time and just annoys the
pig.

Juno

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Jul 21, 2008, 5:23:47 PM7/21/08
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Pogonip wrote:
> Juno wrote:
>>>
>> Happy Birthday Joanne, What a great surprise. "Ain't" kids great!! You
>> know you did everything right for them and now they are doing fight
>> for you.
>> Juno
>
> Thank you. But I'm not so sure about that -- I think they turned out
> right in spite of me. ;-)

Nah, Like my kids, They thrived on healthy neglect and that's doing
right for them. A lot of love and a little indulgence.
Juno

Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 2:58:27 AM7/22/08
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When I was 40, I had my second son. Should such a thing happen now, I'd
stick my head in the oven. Or I'd be like this:

> With all the new technology regarding fertility, a 65 year-old woman gave birth to a baby.
>
>
> When she was discharged from the hospital, her relatives came to visit. "May we see the new baby?" one asked.
>
> "Not yet," said the 65 year-old mother.
>
> Soon, 10 minutes had passed and another relative asked, "May we see the new baby now?"
>
> "Not yet," said the mother.
>
> Another 19 minutes later, they asked again, "May we see the baby now?"
>
> "No, not yet," replied the mother.
>
> Growing very impatient, they asked, "Well, when CAN we see the baby?"
>
> "When it cries," she told them.
>
> "WHEN IT CRIES??" they demanded.
>
> "Why do we have to wait until it CRIES??"
>
> "Because," she told them, "I forgot where I put it...."

Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 2:59:58 AM7/22/08
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It's not like I planned it, or did anything. I was just minding my own
business, and *pow*!

Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 3:05:44 AM7/22/08
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I'm detecting a common thread here... ;-)

Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 3:06:31 AM7/22/08
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So we not only sew, but we have a very similar child-raising
"philosophy"! ;-)

Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 3:07:13 AM7/22/08
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Thank you, I can tell you agree!

Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 3:08:39 AM7/22/08
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But who's counting? Hehehe, Mary agrees with me. Why, I could have
been ahead of you in school and everything! I graduated high school in
1955. Were you just a junior that year? See?

Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 3:10:28 AM7/22/08
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Sharon Hays wrote:
>
>
> Happy Birthday Joanne!!! That was a FABULOUS story about your sons. What
> great guys. Sounds like you had a glorious birthday. :)
>
> Hope you remembered at some point to put on your Queen of the Universe
> tiara. I try to remember to put mine on about 10 minutes after breakfast
> on my birthdays. ;)
>
> Sharon

Omigosh! I really need one of those!

It was the most wonderful birthday ever. Those boys had plotted and
schemed and planned this months in advance, and I didn't have a clue.
They're great boys....well, men, I guess now. But they're still *my* boys.

Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 3:11:17 AM7/22/08
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Indeed!

Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 3:12:08 AM7/22/08
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needles Mcgee wrote:
> Hi- delurking to - happy birthday - and your story made me misty.
>
> lissa

Me, too!!! Now that you've delurked, stick around! We have a lot of
fun here. And sew. But fun, too.

BEI Design

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Jul 22, 2008, 3:31:10 AM7/22/08
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Pogonip wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
> > Pogonip wrote:
> > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > Pogonip wrote:
> > > > > Friday was my birthday. A big one. With a zero.
> > > > > And a large number before the zero. Beverly
> > > > > knows. I'm blazing a trail.
> > > > Happy (Very Big Number) Birthday Joanne, you old
> > > > fart. ;-> Congratulations on rearing such wonderful
> > > > sons. Beverly, a very slightly younger old fart
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Thank you, Beverly, but please show a little more
> > > respect for your elders. ;-)
> >
> > Being nine months and twenty-four days older doesn't

> > count towards being an "elder". ;-ţ


> >
> > Beverly
> >
> >
> >
>
> But who's counting? Hehehe, Mary agrees with me.

You're both wrong! Nyaaaa...

> Why, I
> could have been ahead of you in school and everything! I
> graduated high school in 1955. Were you just a junior
> that year? See?

Actually, spring of '55 I was a sophomore, I graduated in
1957 (just had out 50th reunion last fall). And no, I was
never held back. ]:-| My BD is in May, so I didn't start
first grade until I was 6 plus a couple of months and I had
just turned 18 when I graduated 12 years later. As I recall
the '55 batch of seniors were all kinda snooty and full of
themselves. ;->

Beverly


Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 4:24:19 AM7/22/08
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BEI Design wrote:
> Pogonip wrote:
>> BEI Design wrote:
>>> Pogonip wrote:
>>>> BEI Design wrote:
>>>>> Pogonip wrote:
>>>>>> Friday was my birthday. A big one. With a zero.
>>>>>> And a large number before the zero. Beverly
>>>>>> knows. I'm blazing a trail.
>>>>> Happy (Very Big Number) Birthday Joanne, you old
>>>>> fart. ;-> Congratulations on rearing such wonderful
>>>>> sons. Beverly, a very slightly younger old fart
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Thank you, Beverly, but please show a little more
>>>> respect for your elders. ;-)
>>> Being nine months and twenty-four days older doesn't
>>> count towards being an "elder". ;-ş

>>>
>>> Beverly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> But who's counting? Hehehe, Mary agrees with me.
>
> You're both wrong! Nyaaaa...
>
>> Why, I
>> could have been ahead of you in school and everything! I
>> graduated high school in 1955. Were you just a junior
>> that year? See?
>
> Actually, spring of '55 I was a sophomore, I graduated in
> 1957 (just had out 50th reunion last fall). And no, I was
> never held back. ]:-| My BD is in May, so I didn't start
> first grade until I was 6 plus a couple of months and I had
> just turned 18 when I graduated 12 years later. As I recall
> the '55 batch of seniors were all kinda snooty and full of
> themselves. ;->
>
> Beverly
>
>
Only to lowly sophomores. Probably because you weren't showing the
proper respect to your elders. I can see that you haven't changed,
either. It's "live and learn" -- try to keep up.

;-ş

Mary Fisher

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Jul 22, 2008, 4:30:58 AM7/22/08
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"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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...

>>
>
> When I was 40, I had my second son. Should such a thing happen now, I'd
> stick my head in the oven. Or I'd be like this:
>
>> With all the new technology regarding fertility, a 65 year-old woman gave
>> birth to a baby. When she was discharged from the hospital, her
>> relatives came to visit. "May we see the new baby?" one asked. "Not yet,"
>> said the 65 year-old mother.
>>
>> Soon, 10 minutes had passed and another relative asked, "May we see the
>> new baby now?"
>>
>> "Not yet," said the mother.
>>
>> Another 19 minutes later, they asked again, "May we see the baby now?"
>>
>> "No, not yet," replied the mother.
>>
>> Growing very impatient, they asked, "Well, when CAN we see the baby?"
>>
>> "When it cries," she told them.
>>
>> "WHEN IT CRIES??" they demanded.
>>
>> "Why do we have to wait until it CRIES??"
>>
>> "Because," she told them, "I forgot where I put it...."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Send funds for new keyboard via Paypal please!

Where's my hanky, I can't see through water ......................

Mary

Mary Fisher

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Jul 22, 2008, 4:33:16 AM7/22/08
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"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> Mary Fisher wrote:
>> "Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>> news:4884...@news.bnb-lp.com...
>>> Mary Fisher wrote:
>>>> Worth getting old for :-)
>>>>
>>>> Belated greetings!
>>>>
>>>> Go on, tell us the first figure ... my next one will be 7 :-)
>>>>
>>>> Mary
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I just beat you to it. ;-)
>>
>> Show-off!
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>
> It's not like I planned it, or did anything. I was just minding my own
> business, and *pow*!

I know .. it sneaks up ...

But it's good!

Mary

Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 4:36:21 AM7/22/08
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Mary Fisher wrote:
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!
>
> Send funds for new keyboard via Paypal please!
>
> Where's my hanky, I can't see through water ......................
>
> Mary

That was pretty much my reaction, too.

Mary Fisher

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"BEI Design" <nobeide...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote in message
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Bev, I'm no mathematician but it seems that our birhdays might be close ...
and I always imagined that all you lot were young flibbertygibbets!

Mary


Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 4:56:26 AM7/22/08
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Mary Fisher wrote:
>
> I know .. it sneaks up ...
>
> But it's good!
>
> Mary


It beats the alternative.

Juno

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Jul 22, 2008, 10:57:25 AM7/22/08
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Pogonip wrote:
> Juno wrote:
>> Pogonip wrote:
>>> Juno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> Happy Birthday Joanne, What a great surprise. "Ain't" kids great!!
>>>> You know you did everything right for them and now they are doing
>>>> fight for you.
>>>> Juno
>>>
>>> Thank you. But I'm not so sure about that -- I think they turned out
>>> right in spite of me. ;-)
>>
>> Nah, Like my kids, They thrived on healthy neglect and that's doing
>> right for them. A lot of love and a little indulgence.
>> Juno
>
> So we not only sew, but we have a very similar child-raising
> "philosophy"! ;-)

You got it. They only exception is that you probably sew a lot better
than I do.

BEI Design

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Jul 22, 2008, 11:28:15 AM7/22/08
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Mary Fisher wrote:
> "BEI Design" wrote:

> > Being nine months and twenty-four days older doesn't
> > count towards being an "elder". ;-ş
>
> Bev, I'm no mathematician but it seems that our birhdays
> might be close ... and I always imagined that all you lot
> were young flibbertygibbets!
> Mary

Ma,

My BD is May 12. And I AM a young flibbertygibbet!

Beverly

BEI Design

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Jul 22, 2008, 11:30:11 AM7/22/08
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Oh, my elders got all the respect they EARNED. I still
respect those who EARN it. ;-D

Beverly


Mary Fisher

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"BEI Design" <nobeide...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote in message
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In that case you're (gets out fingers ... and toes ....... no, not enough)
younger than me.

nyer nyer!

Mine's the last day of winter.

I'm content to be an old flibbertygibbet :-)

Mary


Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 2:45:58 PM7/22/08
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No. I use much the same philosophy there. I sew for function. I like
to make clothes because I can make things very comfortable the way I
like them, not the way the magazines and TV, etc., say they should be.
I also like to take shortcuts. I am not good with fiddly things.

Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 2:49:07 PM7/22/08
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Oh! Cut!!! How sharp thy tongue!!! I would be bleeding here, had I
not been so sure that I have earned respect due to my advanced age,
experience, and excellent judgment in matters of import.

Mary Fisher

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Jul 22, 2008, 2:49:31 PM7/22/08
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"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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...


>>>
>>> So we not only sew, but we have a very similar child-raising
>>> "philosophy"! ;-)
>>
>> You got it. They only exception is that you probably sew a lot better
>> than I do.
>
> No. I use much the same philosophy there. I sew for function. I like to
> make clothes because I can make things very comfortable the way I like
> them, not the way the magazines and TV, etc., say they should be.

And we're not that shape anyway :-)

Thank goodness!

Mary


Mary Fisher

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Jul 22, 2008, 2:51:26 PM7/22/08
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"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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...

>>
>> Oh, my elders got all the respect they EARNED. I still respect those who
>> EARN it. ;-D
>>
>> Beverly
>
> Oh! Cut!!! How sharp thy tongue!!! I would be bleeding here, had I not
> been so sure that I have earned respect due to my advanced age,
> experience, and excellent judgment in matters of import.

No, thy respect is earned because of thy wisdom, which inevitabely comes
with age.

Oh what joy to sit in a corner and have people come and pay respects and ask
advice and ...

.. well, we can dream :-)

Mary


Juno

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Jul 22, 2008, 2:55:48 PM7/22/08
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Pogonip wrote:
> Juno wrote:
>> Pogonip wrote:
>>> Juno wrote:
>>>> Pogonip wrote:
>>>>> Juno wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Happy Birthday Joanne, What a great surprise. "Ain't" kids great!!
>>>>>> You know you did everything right for them and now they are doing
>>>>>> fight for you.
>>>>>> Juno
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you. But I'm not so sure about that -- I think they turned
>>>>> out right in spite of me. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Nah, Like my kids, They thrived on healthy neglect and that's doing
>>>> right for them. A lot of love and a little indulgence.
>>>> Juno
>>>
>>> So we not only sew, but we have a very similar child-raising
>>> "philosophy"! ;-)
>>
>> You got it. They only exception is that you probably sew a lot better
>> than I do.
>
> No. I use much the same philosophy there. I sew for function. I like
> to make clothes because I can make things very comfortable the way I
> like them, not the way the magazines and TV, etc., say they should be. I
> also like to take shortcuts. I am not good with fiddly things.

Oh, I'm so glad! I sew for fun and function. since my granddaughter
consider me the Sewing Machine Queen, nothing much else matters. I try
for a credible job but no longer let my need for perfection get in the
way.It use to take me for ever to complete anything, but have learned
that most of what I considered substandard is a lot better than anything
I've ever bought in RTW.
Juno

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Mary Fisher wrote:

>> Thank you. But I'm not so sure about that -- I think they turned out
>> right in spite of me. ;-)
>

> That's what I used to say about ours :-)


I always say that if my children turn out as improved over how they were
raised as I did, they will be outstandingly phenomenal people.

My youngest is filling the bill. My 3rd is coming within sight of the
goal. My oldest is a special needs child and my expectations for him
are a little lower than the rest, because he just doesn't get it half
the time. And my 2nd is going through a construction site right now,
and if she doesn't pick up nails in her tires or anything that will ruin
her, she will come out okay on the other side.

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BEI Design wrote:
>
> Being nine months and twenty-four days older doesn't count
> towards being an "elder". ;-ş


Well, I think my sister has always thought, even at child-type ages,
that her being 15 months older makes her the elder by far, whereas my
parents always said they considered us basically equals.

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Pogonip wrote:
>
> No. I use much the same philosophy there. I sew for function. I like
> to make clothes because I can make things very comfortable the way I
> like them, not the way the magazines and TV, etc., say they should be. I
> also like to take shortcuts. I am not good with fiddly things.

A person after my own heart. Don't care anywhere near as much for the
process as I do for the finished result.

Olwyn Mary

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Ditto. People are always astonished when they see me in something new,
and then say "But you LIKE to sew, don't you?" and I swiftly reply "No,
I just like the results." As far as I am concerned, it is another
household chore, like cooking delicious, elegant meals which cater to
dh's diabetes and keep his glucose level exactly where the doc wants it
while allowing him to "eat like a king".

Olwyn Mary in New Orleans.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

BEI Design

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...and your superior intellect and fabulous looks? ;->

Beverly


Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 9:45:43 PM7/22/08
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Mary Fisher wrote:
>
> No, thy respect is earned because of thy wisdom, which inevitabely comes
> with age.
>
> Oh what joy to sit in a corner and have people come and pay respects and ask
> advice and ...
>
> .. well, we can dream :-)
>
> Mary
>
>

We are very, very good at that!

Pogonip

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Yeah! That, too! How could I have forgotten? I hope that's not a baby
crying....... *phew* No, it's the cat.

Pogonip

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Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote:

I have heard twins talking about which one's the elder, and why that
means they get to pick first. ;-)

Pogonip

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Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote:

The hardest part is watching them re-invent the wheel. Go through all
the rites of passage on their own, unable or unwilling to take counsel
from those of us who have BTDT long ago. Just like we did.

Pogonip

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Jul 22, 2008, 9:56:26 PM7/22/08
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Indeed! Some of those people look scary! One of the judges on Design
Star on HGTV (ok, I'm a sucker, I watch) - the fashion designer - looks
like a refugee. Poor woman. I want to feed her. LOL!

Pogonip

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Juno wrote:
> Oh, I'm so glad! I sew for fun and function. since my granddaughter
> consider me the Sewing Machine Queen, nothing much else matters. I try
> for a credible job but no longer let my need for perfection get in the
> way.It use to take me for ever to complete anything, but have learned
> that most of what I considered substandard is a lot better than anything
> I've ever bought in RTW.
> Juno

When I aimed for perfection, nothing ever met my standards. I'd work
and work and throw it away in a fit of pique. It's no good! But now, I
can live with a crooked seam - or a pucker - it's not like anything is
all that fitted anymore, I wouldn't dare fit to this lumpy person, and
besides, it wouldn't be comfy!

Sewing for fun! That's a much better idea!

Pogonip

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Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote:

There is that. Few parts of the process are all that entertaining. I
think that's why I like to treadle -- it gives me something to do while
I wait for the seam to be done.

Pogonip

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I hereby pronounce this a gathering of Great Minds that Think Alike.

BEI Design

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Pogonip wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:

> > ...and your superior intellect and fabulous looks? ;->
> >
> > Beverly

>
> Yeah! That, too! How could I have forgotten? I hope
> that's not a baby crying....... *phew* No, it's the cat.

ROTFLMAO!


BEI Design

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Pogonip wrote:
> Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote:
> > BEI Design wrote:
> > >
> > > Being nine months and twenty-four days older doesn't
> > > count towards being an "elder". ;-ş
> >
> >
> > Well, I think my sister has always thought, even at
> > child-type ages, that her being 15 months older makes
> > her the elder by far, whereas my parents always said
> > they considered us basically equals.
>
> I have heard twins talking about which one's the elder,
> and why that means they get to pick first. ;-)

I'm a twin. I'm older (by about 6 minutes). Therefore, I
pick first, there is no arguing about it. ;-ş

Beverly


Pogonip

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She must be part Siamese - she has That Voice, you know. Really does
sound like a baby sometimes. Skeery! I'm sure I don't have a new one.

Pogonip

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Thank you for proving my point. ;-ş

BEI Design

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Pogonip wrote:
> BEI Design wrote:
> > Pogonip wrote:
> > > Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote:
> > > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > > Being nine months and twenty-four days older
> > > > > doesn't count towards being an "elder". ;-ş
> > > >
> > > > Well, I think my sister has always thought, even at
> > > > child-type ages, that her being 15 months older
> > > > makes her the elder by far, whereas my parents
> > > > always said they considered us basically equals.
> > > I have heard twins talking about which one's the
> > > elder, and why that means they get to pick first. ;-)
> >
> > I'm a twin. I'm older (by about 6 minutes). Therefore,
> > I pick first, there is no arguing about it. ;-ş Beverly
> >
> >
>
> Thank you for proving my point. ;-ş

You're welcome. :-|

Beverly


Mary Fisher

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"Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply" <sam...@TRASHsonic.net> wrote in
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That's so that they don't have to admit to forgetting whose birthday is
which :-)

Mary


Mary Fisher

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"BEI Design" <nobeide...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> I'm a twin. I'm older (by about 6 minutes). Therefore, I pick first,
> there is no arguing about it. ;-ş

It won't get better if you pick it ...

Mary
>


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Pogonip wrote:
>
> The hardest part is watching them re-invent the wheel. Go through all
> the rites of passage on their own, unable or unwilling to take counsel
> from those of us who have BTDT long ago. Just like we did.

Well, seeing as though I was raised in an extremely cloistered
environment and it has left its mark on me, the hardest thing for me is
having them flounder with situations or circumstances that are way above
my head, because it reminds me of my own limitations.

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Mary Fisher wrote:
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>> Well, I think my sister has always thought, even at child-type ages, that
>> her being 15 months older makes her the elder by far, whereas my parents
>> always said they considered us basically equals.
>
> That's so that they don't have to admit to forgetting whose birthday is
> which :-)


Not in this case. It was more a case of either supreme avoidance,
extreme guilt, and/or burying the head in the sand and trying to pretend
problems away. Which was involved depended on the parent (guilt was
more my dad's thing and the head in the sand thing was more my mom's)
and the situation involved.

Pogonip

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Is this Melinda Meahan under a new name, perchance? If so, I've been
missing you and wondering how you were faring. If not, please excuse
the error. ;-)

Lizzy Taylor

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... but the scab is irresistible. ;-)

Lizzy

Mary Fisher

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"Lizzy Taylor" <li...@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> wrote in message
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I used to eat mine ... but you didn't want to know that :-)

Mary


Lizzy Taylor

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You are not the only one that has given up that habit, but I know people
that still do - the male of the species can be *so* revolting!

Lizzy

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