OT. Need new washer
Olwyn Mary
paperwork I discovered that it is 14 years old (how did that happen? My
new washer!!)I decided I might as well buy a new one.
I want another top-loader for various reasons, so I need recommendations
from others who have ones they like. The current one, although highly
recommended, is a Sears model, and the bad thing about it is that it
twists the clothes into ropes. I am hoping for one which does not do
that. I don't want TOL - in my book, more bells and whistles = more
things to go wrong. I just need hot, warm or cold water settings and
regular or gentle wash. Everything else I can set up manually.
Thanks for any relevant input.
Olwyn Mary in New Orleans.
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Emily Bengston
On 6/3/08 10:56 PM, in article b7e15$48461240$30...@news.teranews.com,
"Olwyn Mary" <olwy...@aol.com> wrote:
I've always had Kenmore from Sears, but two of my DD have Frigidaire brand
and are both very happy with them. Sorry I can't be more help.
Emily
Taria
> http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/media?id=6114749
If you can't see it they liked a GE model of
top loader.
HTH, Taria
Pogonip
comments that caught my attention was that the top loaders have been
tweaked because of their heavy water use, and they don't work as well as
they used to. I don't know where that information came from, but it
might be worth looking into. The front loaders use less water (and
soap/detergent), are easier on the cloth, and there are more choices now.
Look carefully at the Kenmores - I think they're still made by Whirlpool.
--
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The Wanderer
> Olwyn Mary wrote:
>> My washing machine is malfunctioning, and as when I looked up the
>> paperwork I discovered that it is 14 years old (how did that happen? My
>> new washer!!)I decided I might as well buy a new one.
>>
>> I want another top-loader for various reasons, so I need recommendations
>> from others who have ones they like. The current one, although highly
>> recommended, is a Sears model, and the bad thing about it is that it
>> twists the clothes into ropes. I am hoping for one which does not do
>> that. I don't want TOL - in my book, more bells and whistles = more
>> things to go wrong. I just need hot, warm or cold water settings and
>> regular or gentle wash. Everything else I can set up manually.
>>
>> Thanks for any relevant input.
> There was a recent discussion of this on another group, and one of the
> comments that caught my attention was that the top loaders have been
> tweaked because of their heavy water use, and they don't work as well as
> they used to. I don't know where that information came from, but it
> might be worth looking into. The front loaders use less water (and
> soap/detergent), are easier on the cloth, and there are more choices now.
Can't comment about top loaders, they're virtually unknown in the UK.
I bought a Maytag when we refitted the kitchen last year, *very* impressed!
Extremely simple to use, it comes with a choice of just 4 programme buttons
that should meet most everyday requirements, but the programmes are
manually configurable for temperature, spin speed, etc. Having said that,
we've never had to alter any of them.
It uses very little detergent, not much water, and doesn't tangle clothes.
It's *quiet*, even at 1800 spin speed! It has two doors, the outer
drop-down is extremely useful when unloading the washing.
Having said all of that, I have an idea they do make top loaders as well.
--
Richard - The older I get, the better I used to be!
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net
Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply
> This was a good consumer spot on the local news:
>> http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/media?id=6114749
> If you can't see it they liked a GE model of
> top loader.
I would not recommend getting a GE -- rumor has it on the newswire that
they are planning on getting out of the major appliance business.
Kate XXXXXX
Unfortunately my new washer is a front loader (I much prefer them), and
isn't available where you are, but it IS fabulous! I got this one:
http://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/Washing+Machine+Parts/ISE/ISE5+-+1600rpm+AAA+Washing+Machine+-+5+Year+Warranty.html
After six weeks with no washer, it swallowed 21 loads in 3 days,
including 7 loads of towels on the boil wash, without a hitch. It
doesn't tangle the clothes and is very ecconomical to run. It's also
dad easy to use! :D
--
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Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
Lizzy Taylor
> It's also
> dad easy to use! :D
So easy even a man can use it??? ;-)
Lizzy
Kate XXXXXX
Viviane
the go in Australia and I rather liked the flexibility of adding clothes on
the go, etc. However when we needed a new machine a few years back, front
loaders were starting to get popular so that's what we got. They are
cheaper to run, use less water, are more gentle on clothes and wash better.
I'd never go back to a top loader.
We got LG and it has been great, although it is at the washing machine
hospital right now with a broken bearing. I can't wait for it to come back
later this week although I hope I won't get near Kate's record of number of
loads.
BTW I can finally see this ng again after a gap of a couple of years. Don't
know why I lost access to it but it's good to see all the familiar names.
Now I won't have to email Kate directly for advice. Thanks for being so
helpful Kate.
"Olwyn Mary" <Olwy...@AOL.com> wrote in message
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Kate XXXXXX
> After being used to front loaders in England, I found that top loaders were
> the go in Australia and I rather liked the flexibility of adding clothes on
> the go, etc. However when we needed a new machine a few years back, front
> loaders were starting to get popular so that's what we got. They are
> cheaper to run, use less water, are more gentle on clothes and wash better.
> I'd never go back to a top loader.
>
> We got LG and it has been great, although it is at the washing machine
> hospital right now with a broken bearing. I can't wait for it to come back
> later this week although I hope I won't get near Kate's record of number of
> loads.
We looked at LG, but parts are hard to come by, and I liked the ISE
philosophy.
Six weeks was a bit difficult! Luckily I have a towel mine... ;P
>
> BTW I can finally see this ng again after a gap of a couple of years. Don't
> know why I lost access to it but it's good to see all the familiar names.
> Now I won't have to email Kate directly for advice. Thanks for being so
> helpful Kate.
You are very welcome, as always! And so is anyone else, too... :)
Taria
has been a big turn around in major appliance companies
by and large in the last few years. Maytag is now really
Fridgidare. Go figure.
Taria
Kate XXXXXX
> that is a problem worth thinking about. I think there
> has been a big turn around in major appliance companies
> by and large in the last few years. Maytag is now really
> Fridgidare. Go figure.
While this site is aimed at the UK market, there is a LOT of background
information about the different companies.
ISE was set up more or less in pritest at the main manufacturers. Their
own machines are built in a couple of places by independant
manufacturers, to their very rigid specifications. Read and see what
you think. Most of the guys offering their advice and experience
working as service engineers have or do work on mainstream appliances.
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/index.php
Olwyn Mary
What I want is a top-loader with different water levels, different
water temp options, and which does not tangle the clothes into twisted,
interwined ropes. Does anyone have such a machine? (Consumer Reports
does not help me here, as they test their machines with small squares of
fabric, not large items of clothing or linens).
Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply
top-loaders with standard agitators are least likely to twist clothing
into ropes, but I bet the answer is in the type of agitation it does,
and you might want to do some research on which types of machines do
which types of agitation and go from there.
Phaedrine Stonebridge
Olwyn Mary <Olwy...@AOL.com> wrote:
> My washing machine is malfunctioning, and as when I looked up the
> paperwork I discovered that it is 14 years old (how did that happen? My
> new washer!!)I decided I might as well buy a new one.
>
> I want another top-loader for various reasons, so I need recommendations
> from others who have ones they like. The current one, although highly
> recommended, is a Sears model, and the bad thing about it is that it
> twists the clothes into ropes. I am hoping for one which does not do
> that. I don't want TOL - in my book, more bells and whistles = more
> things to go wrong. I just need hot, warm or cold water settings and
> regular or gentle wash. Everything else I can set up manually.
No doubt you'll hear many people rave about front loaders so I thought
I'd share another view. After two years using a front loader (TOL
Bosch), I have very mixed feelings about them. In fact, I'm not sure
I'll ever get another one... and I emphasize the "not sure" part because
some of my concerns may be brand related.
Not long ago, I learned that more than 80% of water usage in the US goes
into crop irrigation and that the vast majority of that is very
wasteful, overhead irrigation. I admit that made me very resentful that
American women (well we're mostly the ones who do the laundry) seem to
be shouldering the brunt of the responsibility for reducing water usage.
This mostly takes the form of front-loading washers, low water
dishwashers and low-flow faucets. I've seen many people complain about
DW detergent residue problems. And I don't know anyone who appreciates
having to wait longer for the same amount of water to come out of the
darn faucet.
Things I like about my front loader include faster, adjustable spin
cycle, lower power consumption, less detergent and larger load capacity.
What a convenience it is for washing quilts and duvets. My list of
concerns is much longer, however. I do not like all the bending over
(and I do have a pedestal). Light knows I bend over enough doing other
things. I hate that long items like long shirt sleeves get the laundry
all tangled up in a big ball in the tub, throwing the machine off
balance. Then I have to stop it, untwist and remove all the laundry,
and reload it so it can finish spinning properly. Even when I do the
shirts alone, I still have the problem, though to a lesser degree. And
that defeats several of the alleged "features" of FLWs.
More problems. My machine simply does not use enough water under any
cycle or setting. Either the clothes don't get clean enough or the
detergent isn't rinsed out properly (I use only liquid). Early on, I
was starting to get little holes in the clothes from detergent--- and I
was using only 1 - 3 TB per load! So, I have to add water manually to
each load and I have to set it to run the bleach cycle w/o bleach so the
clothes get sufficient water for rinsing. In addition, I now have to
presoak many more things to get them clean.
Another problem is not being able to manually adjust the time of the
soak cycle. One - two hours is all you get; the machine decides. I
cannot leave the clothes soak all night unless I manually turn the
machine off and start it again. I do that often.
In short, I've come to mostly hate my front-loading Bosch and would
certainly not recommend that brand of anything. I never had ANY of
these problems with my Maytag top loader. What a pity Maytag was bought
out. I sincerely hope that others have had better experiences with
their FLWs. I'd like to think there are actually good ones.
Phae
--
"The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time
with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson
Taria
months old so probably the same or similar model. Like support
from Janome, Bosch is pretty rotten. I got laughed at by
the kid at the Bosch consumer line because I tried using the
amount of soap listed on the machine. That was really irritating.
The most annoying thing was the beeper. I programmed that
away and it has help a LOT.
Mine gets clothes clean. I had to call after initial install
and have it leveled. That took care of the balance problem but
I don't have the pedestal. I only use 2 tbsp. of the 2x He
laundry soap. Any more and it foams over. I do hit the extra rinse
cycle for really full loads. Since I am in the So Cal desert the
water savings was the primary reason for going over to the
fl machine. I feel pretty ripped off somtimes. Folks with the
Costco Whirlpool FL seem a lot happier than we are Phae. They
were out of that when I had to have a new machine.
I miss my top load Maytag. I should have kept that when I moved.
Taria
Pogonip
> that is a problem worth thinking about. I think there
> has been a big turn around in major appliance companies
> by and large in the last few years. Maytag is now really
> Fridgidare. Go figure.
>
> Taria
>
Maytag on April 1, 2006. The Maytag name will still be used on
rebranded Whirlpool appliances.
Pogonip
> Right now, for various reasons, a front loader is simply not an option.
> What I want is a top-loader with different water levels, different
> water temp options, and which does not tangle the clothes into twisted,
> interwined ropes. Does anyone have such a machine? (Consumer Reports
> does not help me here, as they test their machines with small squares of
> fabric, not large items of clothing or linens).
>
GE has a new line of top-loading washers without a center agitator.
They also include a heater to raise the water temperature. They're
pricier, but may be worth the investment.
<http://products.geappliances.com/ApplProducts/Dispatcher?REQUEST=SPECPAGE&SKU=WPGT9360EWW&SITEID=GEA>
Mary Fisher
"Olwyn Mary" <Olwy...@AOL.com> wrote in message
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I've been curious to read this post because I wondered why a new washer was
needed and why you just didn't go to the local hardware shop for one - or
was the washer a special size?
Didn't think of a washing machine, just a round metal or rubber thing with a
hole in the middle.
I'll go and knit!
Mary
Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply
http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/14/news/companies/GE_auction.ap/index.htm
Phaedrine Stonebridge
Taria <tariaw...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I really would never buy another Bosch machine again. Mine is 20
> months old so probably the same or similar model. Like support
> from Janome, Bosch is pretty rotten. I got laughed at by
> the kid at the Bosch consumer line because I tried using the
> amount of soap listed on the machine. That was really irritating.
Yes, Bosch support is really pathetic. First, my machine was not
installed properly. Finally, the store sent a Bosch serviceman out. He
said he leveled the machine but neglected to lock the rear levelers (or
something like that) so, for a time, the machine was creeping all over
the place. After reading over the installation manual, my husband
discovered it had not been properly installed and rebalanced it himself.
The machine instruction manual is also terrible. Basically, it's
written for the third grade level and just tells you things like "Push
the button two times..." or "Be sure to plug it in...". It explains
nothing important like how the cycles actually work or what kind of
clothing each cycle is meant for, whether it used hot or cold water,
etc. Awful! Like someone wrote it who never did laundry in his entire
life. And when you call with questions, they just refer you back to the
same incompetently written manual. So much for German technology. :(
Our 3 year old Bosch dishwasher is an equal pain in the rear. (It is
very quiet however) I buy the smallest box of DW detergent I can get
and it has to be Cascade Complete (the kind Bosch says you have to use).
Very often I'll have to throw away as much as half a box because the DW
will only work with very new detergent. Bosch says it's not their fault
my (*urban*) grocery sells "old" detergent. My grocery says they do no
such thing. I've been using dishwashers for many years and have never
had this problem before. In addition, the control panel has been
replaced once and is starting to malfunction again. Last time it was
under warranty still but I had to pay labor (or was it the part?) which
came to just under $150. I'll wash dishes by hand before I ever get
another Bosch. So sorry to rant Taria... just had to get that off my
chest.
Phae
> The most annoying thing was the beeper. I programmed that
> away and it has help a LOT.
> Mine gets clothes clean. I had to call after initial install
> and have it leveled. That took care of the balance problem but
> I don't have the pedestal. I only use 2 tbsp. of the 2x He
> laundry soap. Any more and it foams over. I do hit the extra rinse
> cycle for really full loads. Since I am in the So Cal desert the
> water savings was the primary reason for going over to the
> fl machine. I feel pretty ripped off somtimes. Folks with the
> Costco Whirlpool FL seem a lot happier than we are Phae. They
> were out of that when I had to have a new machine.
> I miss my top load Maytag. I should have kept that when I moved.
> Taria
Pogonip
I guess I'd better hang onto that washboard....
Olwyn Mary
> The last time we got a new washer - 5 years ago - it was a
> kenmore super duty large capacity. Good machine. Will do
> queen size quilts with room to spare for a couple of tops
>
> The trick to not having stuff wrapped around the centre is
> to put different sized things in the machine. ie -
> washclothes with towels. fat quarters with yardage. jeans
> with underwear.
>
> take care
> Liz
I do all those things. The clothes still get twisted, particularly
sheets and long-sleeved shirts, no matter what else I put in with them.
Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply
>
> I guess I'd better hang onto that washboard....
I am SOOO dying for one of these babies:
http://www.lehmans.com/jump.jsp?itemID=4084&itemType=PRODUCT&path=1%2C2%2C673%2C674
Pogonip
The quoted testimonial from "Cheryl" in Gerlach caught my eye. I'm
trying to imagine someone leaving the washer outside by the creek year
round. My first thought was that it was a joke. What keeps Gerlach
going, I guess, is Burning Man.
Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply
(secondhand is all I can afford) and I finally gave up on trying to find
a washer that wouldn't break practically right away and we spent about
six months washing all our laundry by hand in buckets with the
occasional trip to the laundromat to catch up until I finally found one
in good shape that has been working for 2 years so far and no signs of
going bad yet.
Pogonip
> Well, for a while we were having really bad luck buying washing machines
> (secondhand is all I can afford) and I finally gave up on trying to find
> a washer that wouldn't break practically right away and we spent about
> six months washing all our laundry by hand in buckets with the
> occasional trip to the laundromat to catch up until I finally found one
> in good shape that has been working for 2 years so far and no signs of
> going bad yet.
That's good, but if you ever find yourself in that situation, get a big
bucket with a snug lid -- like those really large paint buckets. You
put your wash in with the water and detergent, put the lid on tight, and
put it in the back of your car or truck while you drive wherever you had
to go anyway. Then when you get home, drain, rinse, and hang to dry.
Sharon Hays
> My washing machine is malfunctioning, and as when I looked up the
> paperwork I discovered that it is 14 years old (how did that happen? My
> new washer!!)I decided I might as well buy a new one.
>
> I want another top-loader for various reasons, so I need recommendations
> from others who have ones they like. The current one, although highly
> recommended, is a Sears model, and the bad thing about it is that it
> twists the clothes into ropes. I am hoping for one which does not do
> that. I don't want TOL - in my book, more bells and whistles = more
> things to go wrong. I just need hot, warm or cold water settings and
> regular or gentle wash. Everything else I can set up manually.
>
> Thanks for any relevant input.
>
> Olwyn Mary in New Orleans.
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Two of my friends have top loaders with no central agitator. They both LOVE
the machines. My next door neighbor just got one a few weeks ago. She said
it was time to trade in the 20 yo washer and dryer. ;) I will double
check which one she got. The set they have "talks" to each other. So you
don't have to set the dryer. It will automatically adjust itself to
whatever type of load you washed. You can also set it however you'd like.
More bells & whistles than you want, I know. But kinda spiffy innit???
lol
I'll try to double check brands for you. But you might want to look at that
type of style. One of the gals that has this type is a quilter. She says
she can toss yardage in the washer and no tangling.
Sharon
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time and just annoys the
pig.
Ron Anderson
"Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply" <sam...@TRASHsonic.net> wrote in
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> Well, for a while we were having really bad luck buying washing machines
> (secondhand is all I can afford) and I finally gave up on trying to find a
> washer that wouldn't break practically right away and we spent about six
> months washing all our laundry by hand in buckets with the occasional trip
> to the laundromat to catch up until I finally found one in good shape that
> has been working for 2 years so far and no signs of going bad yet.
>
Back in 1991 a friend gave my wife and I a Whirlpool Commercial washer (coin
operated). He and his wife had purchased it from someone they knew that had
apartments and was upgrading the appliances. That had it as least 10 years.
At some point I had to replace a broken wire. Actually twice, the second
time I used a heavier grade of wire and it has not broken since (knocking on
wood). At some point we got tired of putting the quarters in so I broke into
the lock box and put a knob from a sewing machine on the control and marked
the cycles.
I just can not bring myself to replace it.
--
Ron Anderson A1 Sewing Machine
18 Dingman Rd Sand Lake, NY 12153
http://www.a1sewingmachine.com
Joy Beeson
wrote:
> Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote:
> > Pogonip wrote:
> >>
> >> I guess I'd better hang onto that washboard....
> >
> > I am SOOO dying for one of these babies:
> >
> > http://www.lehmans.com/jump.jsp?itemID=4084&itemType=PRODUCT&path=1%2C2%2C673%2C674
> >
>
> The quoted testimonial from "Cheryl" in Gerlach caught my eye. I'm
> trying to imagine someone leaving the washer outside by the creek year
> round.
I think that "hand washer" and "washing machine" refer to different
objects -- that she bought the hand washer to fill in until the
washing machine could be installed -- probably because her well needed
work -- and found it so efficient that she hasn't bothered to take the
automatic machine out of storage. No doubt the hand washer is carried
down to the creek along with the dirty clothes in a cart or wagon, and
hauled back along with the clean clothes.
I had a similar experience with parking my keyboard on a cardboard
box, shimmed to the exact height with a packet of ledger paper.
But I've really got to get around to buying -- or having made -- a
piece of furniture. I need more bookshelves, and the cat has torn a
hole in the box. <Takes yardstick down from over door, writes "21
3/4"" on shopping list.> And hey, a furniture store just opened next
door to my supermarket.
My aunt used to use a gadget very like their "rapid washer" -- a sort
of steel plunger with baffles inside -- when her well was out of
whack, which seemed to be most of the time. She could get enough
water out of it, but not fast enough to run an automatic. I believe
that standard washers (what we have retronymed "wringer washers") were
still available at the time, but I was too young to ask why she didn't
have one.
Joy Beeson
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The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.
Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply
>
> That's good, but if you ever find yourself in that situation, get a big
> bucket with a snug lid -- like those really large paint buckets. You
> put your wash in with the water and detergent, put the lid on tight, and
> put it in the back of your car or truck while you drive wherever you had
> to go anyway. Then when you get home, drain, rinse, and hang to dry.
Our method was to treat spots with stain remover, put soap in bucket,
fill half-full with water, agitate by hand, add clothing and fill to
top, agitate more, let soak for at least an hour, agitate again by hand,
spot-scrub to remove stains, rinse and wring twice, and hang to dry.
But I will keep the traveling-wash method in mind, although I hardly
ever go anywhere.
Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply
used, though.
Pogonip
The nice thing about the travel method is that it does the agitation for
you. But I understand, I don't go anywhere but grocery shopping and an
occasional trip to Target anymore. Maybe Home Depot. ;-)
Oh...wait....I _have_ a washer...I don't need to go.
Pogonip
> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:04:50 -0700, Pogonip <nob...@nowhere.org>
> wrote:
>> The quoted testimonial from "Cheryl" in Gerlach caught my eye. I'm
>> trying to imagine someone leaving the washer outside by the creek year
>> round.
>
> I think that "hand washer" and "washing machine" refer to different
> objects -- that she bought the hand washer to fill in until the
> washing machine could be installed -- probably because her well needed
> work -- and found it so efficient that she hasn't bothered to take the
> automatic machine out of storage. No doubt the hand washer is carried
> down to the creek along with the dirty clothes in a cart or wagon, and
> hauled back along with the clean clothes.
To be fair to Cheryl, there are some folks around who are living "off
the grid." Gerlach is one spot where that's possible, since the grid
there isn't very big.
There's a place off the Pyramid Lake Highway where there are several
families living that way. They moved out there onto sizable chunks of
land before the developers went out that way. It would have been so
costly to run electricity there that they use solar, wind, and
generators to power their homes. Some did it without reducing the
quality of life at all. We have abundant sunshine and wind, so it's
possible to make a lot of power. The generators help on cloudy days,
rare though they are. The biggest problem is the batteries. If you can
connect to the power company, you sell back in the daytime, draw at
night and break even or better.
melinda
> My washing machine is malfunctioning, and as when I looked up the
> paperwork I discovered that it is 14 years old (how did that happen? My
> new washer!!)I decided I might as well buy a new one.
> I want another top-loader for various reasons, so I need recommendations
> from others who have ones they like. The current one, although highly
> recommended, is a Sears model, and the bad thing about it is that it
> twists the clothes into ropes. I am hoping for one which does not do
> that. I don't want TOL - in my book, more bells and whistles = more
> things to go wrong. I just need hot, warm or cold water settings and
> regular or gentle wash. Everything else I can set up manually.
> Thanks for any relevant input.
> Olwyn Mary in New Orleans.
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
I don't know if Fisher & Paykel are available where you are
but I love mine, one of the most water efficent top loaders
around. They're made in New Zealand, I believe.
--
Melinda
<http://cust.idl.com.au/athol>
Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply
>
> I don't know if Fisher & Paykel are available where you are
> but I love mine, one of the most water efficent top loaders
> around. They're made in New Zealand, I believe.
Fisher & Paykel make washing machines? wow... they must be a pretty
diverse company, because they also make medical equipment (I transcribe
sleep studies, and F&P is one of the two major brands of CPAP masks used
there)
The Wanderer
wrote:
> melinda wrote:
>>
>> I don't know if Fisher & Paykel are available where you are
>> but I love mine, one of the most water efficent top loaders
>> around. They're made in New Zealand, I believe.
>
> Fisher & Paykel make washing machines?
And dish washers - twin drawer, like two separate d/ws in one case, and
it's good.
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> On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:21:00 -0700, Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply
> wrote:
>
>> melinda wrote:
>>> I don't know if Fisher & Paykel are available where you are
>>> but I love mine, one of the most water efficent top loaders
>>> around. They're made in New Zealand, I believe.
>> Fisher & Paykel make washing machines?
>
> And dish washers - twin drawer, like two separate d/ws in one case, and
> it's good.
>
>
That is the coolest dishwasher!! If I had a space for one....and money
to buy it. Meanwhile, I have an 18" portable to go with my 24" stove
in my little (little being the operative word here) kitchen.