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Sunny
wrote:
> if you are Looking for Your Favorite Wedding Dresses and don't know to
> where? i recommend this wedding dresses online store. share buy Favorite
> wedding dress experiences i bought wedding dresses from this website last
> my wedding dress is custom-made. the delivery is very fast.i'm live in new
> york, i'm very satisfied to my wedding dress. the quality is very good and
> the price is reasonable.Fabric: High quality thick bridal satin. they have
> been dressing brides and their bridal parties for more than 10 years .
> they have their factory and do wholesale business, retail and oem theirs
> factory offers wedding dresses , designer wedding dresses , wedding gowns
> , bridesmaid dresses, flower girl dresses, prom dresses, quinceanera
> dresses, online.
>
> so,i recommend this website.
>
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Does anyone from the regular board audience have thoughts about the
use of the term "custom made". I am feeling very frustrated by hearing
about all these "custom made" dresses that are no more than merely,
custom *fitted*, not custom designed. It seems that "custom made" is a
phrase the industry has latched on to create hype about something that
they would, hopefully, offer anyway (who wants a wedding dress that's
a little baggy in the bust and a little too tight in the hips
anyway?!) :) Just curious if there's a better phrase for what's oft
advertised but rarely delivered.
I was a very very fortunate bride. My friend and I selected a pattern
together and from there, we truly custom designed how she would make
it and then she custom constructed it and, of course, custom fitted
it, with lots of love added in throughout the process. I feel that
when other brides say they have a "custom made" dress, they won't be
able to fathom what it means to have one truly made for you with love.
I wish everyone were so lucky! It also strikes me as sad that in an
industry that is so closely related to love, that it's so clear how
little love is in the industry itself.
Kate XXXXXX
>
> Does anyone from the regular board audience have thoughts about the
> use of the term "custom made". I am feeling very frustrated by hearing
> about all these "custom made" dresses that are no more than merely,
> custom *fitted*, not custom designed. It seems that "custom made" is a
> phrase the industry has latched on to create hype about something that
> they would, hopefully, offer anyway (who wants a wedding dress that's
> a little baggy in the bust and a little too tight in the hips
> anyway?!) :) Just curious if there's a better phrase for what's oft
> advertised but rarely delivered.
I'm thinking 'made to order in 'your' size' looks like a better
description for these gowns. Isn't this what ALL the wedding gown
manufacturers do? You go to the shop, try on several different styles,
and order your gown. They send off a whole batch of orders each
week/month, and the factory (usually somewhere in China these days)
churns them out *in the size ordered*. Three months after you went into
the shop and placed the order, your badly fitting gown arrives, and you
then pay the shop a few hundred MORE dollars/punds/shekels to get it
altered to fit... Call me cynical if you like...
Looking at the fabrics on the site, the choice it about as good as you'd
expect for colour, and the fabrics are all the cheap end of the
polyester market... This bunch seems to be passing on a nice saving to
the customer by cutting out the shop bit. This may save time as well.
>
> I was a very very fortunate bride. My friend and I selected a pattern
> together and from there, we truly custom designed how she would make
> it and then she custom constructed it and, of course, custom fitted
> it, with lots of love added in throughout the process. I feel that
> when other brides say they have a "custom made" dress, they won't be
> able to fathom what it means to have one truly made for you with love.
> I wish everyone were so lucky! It also strikes me as sad that in an
> industry that is so closely related to love, that it's so clear how
> little love is in the industry itself.
'Custom' made doesn't mean the same to me, a dressmaker, as couture or
bespoke. These both imply designed and made exclusively for a single
customer and never to be repeated. 'Custom made' would be to make a
commercial pattern for a customer, paying great attention to fit and
finish, and using many couture techniques. The design would not be
unique to that one customer, though we *would* probably personalize it
in the details of fabric choice and embelishment apllied. Couture made
or bespoke means to me that I help the customer design their garments
and choose fabrics and embellishments, and that these garments will be
exclusive to that customer. I'll never make something the same again.
Never take your eye off the dollars! NO-ONE who is going to last is in
business to make wedding dresses, hats, soap, washing machines, bread...
They are in it to make money and the product or service they provide
is their way of paying the bills. Some of these things are hand crafted
with love AS WELL, but that isn't why they are sold.
OK, you really CAN call me cynical.
--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
Sparafucile
> 'Custom' made doesn't mean the same to me, a dressmaker, as couture or
> bespoke. These both imply designed and made exclusively for a single
> customer and never to be repeated. 'Custom made' would be to make a
> commercial pattern for a customer, paying great attention to fit and
> finish, and using many couture techniques. The design would not be
> unique to that one customer, though we *would* probably personalize it
> in the details of fabric choice and embelishment apllied.
I agree; and find this to be true with men's clothing: one chooses a
particular suit or shirt; the tailor alters the pattern to your fit,
and will add some custom detailing, but no major changes. This service
is available in the US in any good men's store and not terribly
expensive.
> Couture made
> or bespoke means to me that I help the customer design their garments
> and choose fabrics and embellishments, and that these garments will be
> exclusive to that customer. I'll never make something the same again.
Likewise in men's clothing; and the cloth is often draped over the
buyer, followed by a number of fittings and any detail can be chosen.
In the US, this is available only at a few bespoke tailors, and shirts
are $400 and up; suits $5000 or so.....
--
Ciao,
Serge
“I love cats because I take pleasure in my home; and little by
little, the cats become its visible soul.”
Jean Cocteau, 1889-1963
11/30/2008 2:00:47 PM
Emily Bengston
On 11/30/08 6:50 AM, in article
a95ea000-8fb0-47d3...@3g2000yqs.googlegroups.com, "Sunny"
<seit...@gmail.com> wrote:
REPLY tp above:
When the shop can say they have been in business for over 50-years, then
maybe I would believe their advertisement.
BEI Design
<strip spam>
>
> When the shop can say they have been in business for over
> 50-years, then maybe I would believe their advertisement.
Would you believe: domain name is registered in China on
October 7, 2007 and is already desperate enough to send spam
through newsgroups on 11/8/08 using a sockpuppet.
WHOIS - shopforlover.com
Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Dates: Created 12-oct-2007 Updated 21-sep-2008
Expires 12-oct-2009
DNS Servers: NS11.IXWEBHOSTING.COM NS12.IXWEBHOSTING.COM
Registrant:
wei zhang
No.79.1002.South Huangxing Road ShangHai China.
shanghai, NA 200090
CN
Domain name: SHOPFORLOVER.COM
Oh, and forward full headers to in...@sewgirls.com, they do
seem to take action against abusers of their system.
Beverly
Sunny
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:37:23 +0000, Kate XXXXXX wrote:
> > Couture made
> > or bespoke means to me that I help the customer design their garments
> > and choose fabrics and embellishments, and that these garments will be
> > exclusive to that customer. I'll never make something the same again.
>
Because I think you're a bunch that will appreciate it... here's her
blog of making my dress (I'm so proud! and lucky!!!) :)
Wedding Dress Saga: http://weddingdresssaga.blogspot.com/
Thanks Bev (below) for the investigative work. These spammers are A-N-
N-O-Y-I-N-G!!!!!
Take care, everyone,
-Susan
BEI Design
>
> Thanks Bev (below) for the investigative work. These
> spammers are A-N- N-O-Y-I-N-G!!!!!
My pleasure, Sun! And, for what it's worth, here is the
response to my abuse report from the sewgirls.com admin:
<quote>
Thank you again, [nym expunged].
I have terminated the spammer account. Also, we've added
some spam
protection features that will hopefully drastically reduce
this type of spam
coming from / showing up at our site.
Thank you again,
Sincerely,
Dmitriy
http://www,sewgirls.com/
<end quote>
So, taking the time to report these abusers may actually get
results. Time will tell.
Beverly
Sunny
wrote:
> Sunny wrote:
>
> > Thanks Bev (below) for the investigative work. These
> > spammers are A-N- N-O-Y-I-N-G!!!!!
>
> My pleasure, Sun! And, for what it's worth, here is the
> response to my abuse report from the sewgirls.com admin:
>
Nice job Bev! I used to try to use the spam reporter through the
Google reader but gave up when I couldn't tell if it did anything.
Spam seemed to subside, but it always seems to come back in spurts.
So is this group hosted through sewgirls? I don't even remember how I
found it anymore, I just get emails that new messages have been posted
and they show up in a google reader.
Thanks + take care!
-Susan (aka Sunny) :)
Juno B
Sunny, a word to the wise. Beverly gets very testy sometimes when people
call her Bev. She's been known to jump off the computer screen and bite,
lol. As to finding this group we are a usenet group, Check your
newsreader for alt.sewing and join us first hand rather than second hand
through Sew Girls.
Juno
BEI Design
> Sunny wrote:
> > On Dec 2, 1:54 pm, "BEI Design"
> > <nobeidesigns...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > Sunny wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Bev (below) for the investigative work. These
> > > > spammers are A-N- N-O-Y-I-N-G!!!!!
> > > My pleasure, Sun! And, for what it's worth, here is
> > > the response to my abuse report from the sewgirls.com
> > > admin:
> >
> > Nice job Bev! I used to try to use the spam reporter
> > through the Google reader but gave up when I couldn't
> > tell if it did anything. Spam seemed to subside, but it
> > always seems to come back in spurts. So is this group
> > hosted through sewgirls? I don't even
> > remember how I found it anymore, I just get emails that
> > new messages have been posted and they show up in a
> > google reader. Thanks + take care!
> > -Susan (aka Sunny) :)
>
> Sunny, a word to the wise. Beverly gets very testy
> sometimes when people call her Bev.
" By Jove, I think she's got it." You know me very well.
Funny, how she didn't catch a clue when I addressed her as
"Sun"... ;-)
> She's been known to
> jump off the computer screen and bite, lol.
Nah, I don't bite I just activate the killfile....
> As to finding
> this group we are a usenet group, Check your newsreader
> for alt.sewing and join us first hand rather than second
> hand through Sew Girls. Juno
Seconded!
Beverly
Taria
name than get wacky. Most folks use a familiar name as a polite gesture
not as an insult. Too bad.
Killfile isn't a bad thing.
Taria
Kathleen
> Too bad she just can't kindly note that she prefers to go by her whole
> name than get wacky. Most folks use a familiar name as a polite gesture
> not as an insult. Too bad.
> Killfile isn't a bad thing.
Actually, I'm with Beverly on this. "Polite" is addressing people as
they prefer to be addressed. In person, this is the name they use when
introducing themselves, in text, as they sign their name. Abbreviating,
or assigning nicknames to someone you've only just met is presumptuous.
Kathleen
(Not Kathy, Kate, or Kat)
Juno B
believe it was done in a joking manner, without hostility, perhaps you
should take a deep breath, relax and enjoy the world a bit more.
I also noted that you did not state a preference to how you wanted to be
addressed so I'll continue to call you Tar until you Kindly note another
preference. My preference is, as I will kindly note,
Juno
BEI Design
> Too bad she just can't kindly note that she prefers to go
> by her whole name than get wacky. Most folks use a
> familiar name as a polite gesture not as an insult.
"Wacky"??? May I assume then, that you will be fine if
folks start addressing you as "Tar" "Tara" "Tiara" or
"Aria"? Surely you won't be offended, you'll think of them
as being extra friendly, right?
Question, how did you gather your information about what
"most folks" do?
Using a name other than the one provided by an acquaintance
is anything but a "polite gesture". Being "familiar" is for
family and friends.
> Too bad. Killfile isn't a bad thing.
> Taria
Indeed.
Beverly
BEI Design
> Kathleen wrote:
> > Taria wrote:
<snip>
> >
> > Actually, I'm with Beverly on this. "Polite" is
> > addressing people as they prefer to be addressed. In
> > person, this is the name they use when introducing
> > themselves, in text, as they sign their name.
> > Abbreviating, or assigning nicknames to someone you've
> > only just met is presumptuous.
Precisely! ;-)
> > Kathleen
> > (Not Kathy, Kate, or Kat)
> >
> Well Tar, Since I'm the one who made the correction not
> Beverly and I do believe it was done in a joking manner,
> without hostility, perhaps you should take a deep breath,
> relax and enjoy the world a bit more. I also noted that
> you did not state a preference to how
> you wanted to be addressed so I'll continue to call you
> Tar until you Kindly note another preference. My
> preference is, as I will kindly note, Juno
Thanks, darlin'! ;-)
Bevelry
The Wanderer
> Using a name other than the one provided by an acquaintance
> is anything but a "polite gesture". Being "familiar" is for
> family and friends.
>
I'm 100% with you on this one, although I think there's even more to this
than is immediately apparent.
For 20 odd years when I was working I always gave my surname when answering
the telephone. The company I worked for went through a 'modernisation'
phase in the 1970s, using an American firm of management consultants. One
of their recommendations was that *everyone* from the MD downwards should
move towards a 'first name' philosophy when talking to the customer. I
hated it and refused to comply - as did my wife, who also worked for the
same company!
In my book, my first name belongs to me. It's for me to invite others to
use it, which I did once I'd found out how this group works and generally
how friendly it is.
Sadly common courtesy and politeness seem to have died out.
And another thing, I *hate* guys who answer the 'phone as 'This is *Mister*
whatever speaking'. Mr is a common politeness of address afforded to
others, it's not a title to be assumed by an individual.
Now I'll climb down off me 'Obby 'Orse!
Of course, you do realise how I'd address you, Beverley, if I ever had the
pleasure to meet and get to know you in person? Repeatedly! Just for
mischief! :-)
--
Richard
Inertia keeps me going!
Pogonip
Do you know how many ways there are to spell "Joanne"? Wow. Many! Add
a last name that has seen many changes historically, and appears in many
guises, even though the "correct" version is splashed across a certain
line of low-priced sporting goods and sportswear.... well, the mind
boggles. But my all-time favorite was when a co-worker in the state
agency where I worked gave my name to a client....and thereafter, I
received mail addressed to "Jonnie Mae Green." OK, so she didn't have
the best Palmer Method cursive.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
Taria
Actually Beverly, you are the only one until the rest of your
little cheering party chimed in that has ever called me
that. It isn't correct but sometimes folks just
make mistakes and I allow for that. There is a reason
this group is so little used. I had forgotten but I
have been reminded. I'm outta here.
Taria
Suzy
"Taria" <tariaw...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:gh9o3c$uhq$1...@news.motzarella.org...
<SNORT> Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out!
:-D
Joy Beeson
<khhfmde...@charter.net> wrote:
> Abbreviating,
> or assigning nicknames to someone you've only just met is presumptuous.
I might add that gratuitously lengthening a name also is presumptuous.
--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
BEI Design
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:28:17 -0800, BEI Design wrote:
>
>
> > Using a name other than the one provided by an
> > acquaintance
> > is anything but a "polite gesture". Being "familiar"
> > is for
> > family and friends.
> >
>
> I'm 100% with you on this one, although I think there's
> even more to this than is immediately apparent.
Really? What? Do tell!
> For 20 odd years when I was working I always gave my
> surname when answering the telephone. The company I
> worked for went through a 'modernisation' phase in the
> 1970s, using an American firm of management consultants.
> One of their recommendations was that *everyone* from the
> MD downwards should move towards a 'first name'
> philosophy when talking to the customer. I hated it and
> refused to comply - as did my wife, who also worked for
> the same company!
>
> In my book, my first name belongs to me. It's for me to
> invite others to use it, which I did once I'd found out
> how this group works and generally how friendly it is.
>
> Sadly common courtesy and politeness seem to have died
> out.
We think much alike on this subject.
> And another thing, I *hate* guys who answer the 'phone as
> 'This is *Mister* whatever speaking'. Mr is a common
> politeness of address afforded to others, it's not a
> title to be assumed by an individual.
>
> Now I'll climb down off me 'Obby 'Orse!
> Of course, you do realise how I'd address you, Beverley,
> if I ever had the pleasure to meet and get to know you in
> person? Repeatedly! Just for mischief! :-)
And I shall graciously refer to you as "Richarde", and I'm
pretty sure the pleasure would be mutual. ;-)
Beverly
Sunny
> " By Jove, I think she's got it." You know me very well.
> Funny, how she didn't catch a clue when I addressed her as
> "Sun"... ;-)
Actually, that's why I came back with "Bev"! :)
Kathleen
> On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:43:38 -0600, Kathleen
> <khhfmde...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Abbreviating,
>>or assigning nicknames to someone you've only just met is presumptuous.
>
>
> I might add that gratuitously lengthening a name also is presumptuous.
>
Sure. It is, however, a parent's perogative to address offspring by the
full version of the spawn's name as a sign of serious annoyance.
I substitute teach and these days most of the younger children go by
their full name. Micheal, Susan, David, Katherine, Robert, not Mike,
Sue, Davey, Kate or Bob.
Juno B
Becca and now at age 4 1/2 she has told the family that her name is
Rebecca and that's what she wants to be called. So that's what we call
her. She told me the other day that Rebecca is a very nice name and she
likes it. I had to agree with her. I can remember as a child people
called me Junie and I hated it. I don't think I got the nerve to tell
them that my name was Juno until I was a teenager. I really think that
we all deserve to be called by the name we prefer.
Juno
Pogonip
>>
> My youngest granddaughter's name is Rebecca, We have always called her
> Becca and now at age 4 1/2 she has told the family that her name is
> Rebecca and that's what she wants to be called. So that's what we call
> her. She told me the other day that Rebecca is a very nice name and she
> likes it. I had to agree with her. I can remember as a child people
> called me Junie and I hated it. I don't think I got the nerve to tell
> them that my name was Juno until I was a teenager. I really think that
> we all deserve to be called by the name we prefer.
> Juno
If you recall, back in the 1970s, women decided that they would not be
taken seriously if called by a nickname, especially one that ended in a
"y" so there was a big movement to be called by one's full given name.
It got to the point that I fully expected General Mills to start
referring to their icon as "Elizabeth Crocker." Imagine Elizabeth Boop?
Chatty Catherine? Barbara and Ken? I don't know if it worked or not.
People tended to take me seriously, and very few people called me by
any nickname anyway. ;-) It might have had something to do with the
badge, handcuffs and .357 I carried.
Juno B
>
>
>
> People tended to take me seriously, and very few people called me by
> any nickname anyway. ;-) It might have had something to do with the
> badge, handcuffs and .357 I carried.
That'll do it every time
Juno
Kate XXXXXX
Snort! ;)
I EARNED the nick-name the kids gave me in my first teching job... I
rapidly became one that you DID hand homework in to on time, that you
DID behave well for in class, and that you DID NOT CHEEK - not if you
wanted to home as something other than a small greasy lump on the
carpet, anyway. I didn't yell. I didn't need to. But they called me
Miss McDragon!
Kay Lancaster
<khhfmde...@charter.net> wrote:
> Sure. It is, however, a parent's perogative to address offspring by the
> full version of the spawn's name as a sign of serious annoyance.
It is amazing how fast one's spouse will put down the sewing scissors they
were preparing to use on cardboard when addressed loudly with their full
name... >;-)
doofy
Then there was Lorena Bobbitt....
Pogonip
Ahh, but she had a slow learner.
Kathleen
I substitute teach and always write my name on the board, but I tell my
elementary classses that I also answer to Missus H, Ma'am, Teacher, and
Um Excuse Me. Missus H is the hands down favorite.
Some of my kids' friends' parents encourage their children's schoolmates
to call them by their first names, a practice I've never really cared
for. By my preference, and because I frequently run into my kids'
friends in a teaching setting they call me Mrs. Hansen in and out of school.
Janice G
My daughter-in-law is a Rebecca. My son and her family call her Becca.
However, every time I begin to say "B" ecca I automatically say
"Becky", which she does not care for. So I call her Rebecca because I
love her and don't want to offend her by this rather weird verbal block
of mine.
Names are important. When someone introduces themself to me, I use the
name they give me.
I'm a Janice, not a Jan. I answer to Jan, but reluctantly.
BEI Design
<snip>
> I'm a Janice, not a Jan. I answer to Jan, but
> reluctantly.
I understand! I'm Beverly, not Bev. I answer to Barbara
(my twin's name) occasionally, to Bev not so much. ;->
Beverly
Kate XXXXXX
called Catherine... I think they mean someone else!
It's a nice name. It's a pretty name. I like the name a lot... I just
never use it!
Only family get to call me Katie.
Kathleen
I went to Spain last year with my mom and sister and we did a bus tour
of the country, with side trips to Gibraltar and Morocco. While in
Morocco we had a traditional local meal with music and a lady came
around to do henna tattoos. Myself and a girl from New York were the
only ones who went for it.
It was kind of scary. She applied the henna paste with a large bore
syringe and needle, and I sat very still while she did it. She topped
the damp paste with some sort of glittery powder and we were given to
understand that it must be left in place for several hours.
As it dried it got kind of itchy, but having used henna on my hair many
moons ago, I recognized the sensation and ignored it. I was dozing on
the bus ride back to our hotel in Spain when my sister elbowed me.
"Hey. Nicole is calling you."
And so she was, but since only my birth family ever call me "Kathy" it
simply didn't register. Her henna was itching and she wanted to know if
she'd contracted some sort of horrible mehndi disease from a shared
henna applicator. I told her it was normal, but if it was bothering her
that much to go wash it off.
I was subbing for a high school spanish class and showed them the
pictures I had posted to the Kodak EasyShare website. When we got to
the ones of the mehndi tattoos there was a collective, "Oooohhhh" from
the girls in the class.
Emily Bengston
On 12/5/08 10:45 PM, in article vsn_k.40148$kn7....@newsfe08.iad,
"Kathleen" <khhfmde...@charter.net> wrote:
This reminds me of a DSIL, when the 1st DGD was born, he asked me what name
I preferred they teach her to call me. I quickly said, "She can call me
anything, as long as she does call me." I am in TX and they were in TN.
Like most teachers, I was called by many names, especially when I taught 1st
grade; many had difficulty pronouncing my name.
Emily