It just occurred to me while I was responding to another post that
when I'm stroking a girls leg and trying to time my transition from
harmless (?) kino to blatant, I'm trying to make you sexually aroused
kino, that I look at how much she's spread her legs when I've moved
further up her leg vs. close her leg.  Closed leg meaning, "I'm not
aroused enough yet" or open leg meaning, "go for it."

I was wondering what other body language posturing others might look
for say, before making certain moves, such as kissing.

Mainiac, have you done any research in this aspect of psychology?

Rograd

http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/02_How_to_Get_Started/bodylanguage...

from formhandle's site

 >http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/02_How_to_Get_Started/bodylanguage...

 I dont really agree with looking for negative or positive reaction shit. I
mean ya know when its going well becuase its SOOOO fucking obvious that there
is a good dynamic between you and her and if its "going bad" from a body
language perspective then itll just make you afraid to close when she could
have just happened to have "bad body language"  with you and still wanted to
fuck. The ONLY way this could be helpful is if it was dead on 100% accurate and
it would help you to not close to early before getting her fired up and even
then youll know when its good.

  You dont need to know the bad if you can spot the presence of the good. In
the absence of good body language and dynamic between the two of you  you need
to create it not react to the bad body language. Any reaction to the bad will
be to either pull back and retreat or lose confidence.
 As far as watching your own body language,  I think its best to focus on the
words between you and keep your focus there. Nothing influences someone more
than thier mind and when people interact with someone what they say is taken in
far more than thier posture or simillarity. Thats why even if you are ugly as
long as you keep talking youll eventually get in the fluff door.

On 22 May 2001 23:22:25 GMT, gunwit...@cs.com (Gunwitch1) wrote:

This is a great comment. If you are worried about body language, you
will be sabotaging yourself even if she is just a shy or closed person
and actually was interested. If she's making it totally obvious from a
body language POV, chances are she's telling you in words to basically
fuck off as well. You shouldn't miss bad signals, don't waste brain
cycles watching for them.

Yeah what he said.

This is probably true for people who have no problem interacting and
communicating with others in general, or with chicks in general, but
for people who aren't very skilled socially, they may need to spend a
bit of time consciously practicing this stuff, like mirroring, eye
contact, etc., until it becomes second nature. If we want to talk
about what's been studied and re-studied, body language and intonation
of voice are 93% of the communication received. That leaves 7% for
what words you are actually using. This is why we try not to talk on
the phone or on email if possible, and set up in person meets instead.
Incidentally, 55% are facial expression and body language, and 38%
tone and pace of speech. I wish I had a book with citations but you
will find this in most intro social psych books. Also ugliness as you
put it doesn't matter much after a very short (but important) initial
period after which you can start charming your way into her pants. :)
See my post somewhere on the 3s rule and if it could be detrimental.

-Will

On Tue, 22 May 2001 06:08:20 GMT, Rograd <pennam...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Some of this stuff is old and basic - but still a good indicator.  

Flicking or playing with hair - she likes you
Leaning forward - she is interested in what you are saying
Turning her body towards you - same as above
Accidently carassing you hand
Alot of kino
Good eye contact
Stretching (this one I think is hit or miss - but it does seem like
flirting when they stretch in front of me and push their chest outward
-mmmmm.)

Don't always use crossed arms, crossed legs as a SINGLE INDICATOR of
how she feels.  If you do, you will be missing out.  Talk to her,
watch her.  Pick up the subtle cues.  If you think she is being
CLOSED, use some rapport builders to get her to open up.

David Johnson
http://mindiscovery.itgo.com
NLP & SS

Here's a few more, with some Kino tips tossed in for good measure:

 - looking up at you through while her face is tilted downwards (sort of a
"shy" look, also an instinctively seductive look because it emphasizes the
eyes and length of eyelashes).
 - caressing things - if you notice her running her fingertips across the
table, or up and down her leg, or seems to be almost caressing something
she's holding... this is usually a good thing, as I've found it often
indicates a state of arousal. Not to be confused with fidgeting though...
this is a smoother, more languid and relaxed movement than fidgeting.
 - if you reach up to brush her hair out of her eyes or something like
that (I play with girls' hair all the time), make sure to "accidentally"
brush the part of her head between the eye and the temple. If she feels
safe or comfortable, she'll usually rub her face up against your hand like
a cat, or at least tilt her head towards your hand (this is a throwback to
infanthood... babies instinctively lean their heads towards whatever side
of their face is being touched, because it's usually their mother's
breast). Even if she doesn't totally trust you yet, the sensation tends to
draw up subconscious feelings of warmth and safety.

~DAB(RAFC)

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