> Here is the basic outline I am using

> 1) Initial screening.  Make sure that she is at least in my area and
> reasonable age.  If possible, get a pic.  I usually start in the chat
> room asking "Is anyone from XXXX" in yahoo or looking up someone in
> the area in ICQ

> 2) Fluff.  Talk about what she does for fun, her work, whatever else
> she has enough interest to go into.  If she brings up something
> negative, redirect it to positive thoughts.  When you have her
> interest, she is actively responding to you (no one word answers, this
> is a sign that you are one of several people she is talking to), go to
> step three.

> 3) EV.  Chat allows you to be very direct, ask her if she dates a lot,
> what kind of guys she likes.  Or (preferably) transition into this
> from the fluff.  Online EV isn't that much different than IRL.  Once
> you have a pretty good idea of what makes her tick, go for the cube.

> 4) The cube seems to work just as good online as IRL.  Sometimes you
> have to lead a bit more, as its hard to get someone to use thier
> imagination through the computer.  Get the answers and interpret.
> Make sure to ask her where you were wrong, as this will fix any
> misconceptions you have about her character.

> 5) After the cube, you might be able to close right then.  Depends on
> how amazed she is with your insights.  If she isn't blown away,
> continue the conversation displaying the values you now know she has.
> When she starts to display interest in you (Are you taken, you are
> such an interesting guy, etc.) close.

> 6) When you close, I try to have the same attitude as others preach in
> setting up MLTRs.  There is no resistance, because its perfectly
> normal to meet people from chat rooms.  Make it coffee or drinks in a
> public place, after all you don't know that SHE isn't a psycho.

> Why online PU?

> Many posters will tell you (rightly) that there are many problems with
> working online.  Amoung these are a high flake factor, that it can be
> a crutch keeping you from working IRL, that by its very nature that it
> devalues your Alpha status - after all, you have to meet chicks on the
> net.

> I worked online because of my location.  I live in a rural area.
> There is no street.  There is one mall, mostly filled with senior
> citizens.  One club within 80 miles and it sucks ass so bad they have
> Ladies Night on friday.  I've had days where going out to dept.
> stores, the mall, etc. for 3-4 hours and making NO approaches, because
> I saw NO HBs.  Plus there is a cultural thing here, people don't make
> friends easily.  They tend to hang out with the same people they went
> to High School with.  So I used what resources I did have, the net.

> On the problems I illustrated, I have the following solutions.

> Flaking - this seems to me to simply be the same solution as anywhere
> else.  Generate enough interest and she won't flake.  The cube helps
> immensly here IMHO.  Who else can get such insights into her mind?  If
> she does flake, use the apology method - call her up and apologize for
> standing her up.  There was a friend that called and I couldn't tell
> her no. :)

> Crutch - this isn't an issue for me, as I have and still do work IRL.
> Anyone looking to the net to avoid the initial discomfort of
> approaching is going to be disappointed, as you can't fuck her over
> the internet, you are going to have to meet IRL to get anywhere.

> de-Alphaing.  My solution here is thus - I am not online to pick up
> chicks!  I am merely killing time.  If its on a weekend, I'm killing
> time before I go out to a club/party.  Since if she's online its
> likely all she's doing that night, you have demonstrated that you are
> MORE active and social than she is.  If she gets in line, she might
> just have something more interesting to do next weekend than sitting
> in front of her computer.

> I've only tested this theory since last weekend.  Have two meetings
> this week, after two approaches.  Closed one in about fifteen minutes.
>  I would have done more, but hell I don't have time for any more
> meetings this week.  I'll let you guys know how it goes.  If anyone
> else has some thoughts or questions, or want to try this themselves,
> I'd surely appreciate it.

> maddman

> > Here is the basic outline I am using

> > 1) Initial screening.  Make sure that she is at least in my area and
> > reasonable age.  If possible, get a pic.  I usually start in the chat
> > room asking "Is anyone from XXXX" in yahoo or looking up someone in
> > the area in ICQ

> > 2) Fluff.  Talk about what she does for fun, her work, whatever else
> > she has enough interest to go into.  If she brings up something
> > negative, redirect it to positive thoughts.  When you have her
> > interest, she is actively responding to you (no one word answers, this
> > is a sign that you are one of several people she is talking to), go to
> > step three.

> > 3) EV.  Chat allows you to be very direct, ask her if she dates a lot,
> > what kind of guys she likes.  Or (preferably) transition into this
> > from the fluff.  Online EV isn't that much different than IRL.  Once
> > you have a pretty good idea of what makes her tick, go for the cube.

> > 4) The cube seems to work just as good online as IRL.  Sometimes you
> > have to lead a bit more, as its hard to get someone to use thier
> > imagination through the computer.  Get the answers and interpret.
> > Make sure to ask her where you were wrong, as this will fix any
> > misconceptions you have about her character.

> > 5) After the cube, you might be able to close right then.  Depends on
> > how amazed she is with your insights.  If she isn't blown away,
> > continue the conversation displaying the values you now know she has.
> > When she starts to display interest in you (Are you taken, you are
> > such an interesting guy, etc.) close.

> > 6) When you close, I try to have the same attitude as others preach in
> > setting up MLTRs.  There is no resistance, because its perfectly
> > normal to meet people from chat rooms.  Make it coffee or drinks in a
> > public place, after all you don't know that SHE isn't a psycho.

> > Why online PU?

> > Many posters will tell you (rightly) that there are many problems with
> > working online.  Amoung these are a high flake factor, that it can be
> > a crutch keeping you from working IRL, that by its very nature that it
> > devalues your Alpha status - after all, you have to meet chicks on the
> > net.

> > I worked online because of my location.  I live in a rural area.
> > There is no street.  There is one mall, mostly filled with senior
> > citizens.  One club within 80 miles and it sucks ass so bad they have
> > Ladies Night on friday.  I've had days where going out to dept.
> > stores, the mall, etc. for 3-4 hours and making NO approaches, because
> > I saw NO HBs.  Plus there is a cultural thing here, people don't make
> > friends easily.  They tend to hang out with the same people they went
> > to High School with.  So I used what resources I did have, the net.

> > On the problems I illustrated, I have the following solutions.

> > Flaking - this seems to me to simply be the same solution as anywhere
> > else.  Generate enough interest and she won't flake.  The cube helps
> > immensly here IMHO.  Who else can get such insights into her mind?  If
> > she does flake, use the apology method - call her up and apologize for
> > standing her up.  There was a friend that called and I couldn't tell
> > her no. :)

> > Crutch - this isn't an issue for me, as I have and still do work IRL.
> > Anyone looking to the net to avoid the initial discomfort of
> > approaching is going to be disappointed, as you can't fuck her over
> > the internet, you are going to have to meet IRL to get anywhere.

> > de-Alphaing.  My solution here is thus - I am not online to pick up
> > chicks!  I am merely killing time.  If its on a weekend, I'm killing
> > time before I go out to a club/party.  Since if she's online its
> > likely all she's doing that night, you have demonstrated that you are
> > MORE active and social than she is.  If she gets in line, she might
> > just have something more interesting to do next weekend than sitting
> > in front of her computer.

> > I've only tested this theory since last weekend.  Have two meetings
> > this week, after two approaches.  Closed one in about fifteen minutes.
> >  I would have done more, but hell I don't have time for any more
> > meetings this week.  I'll let you guys know how it goes.  If anyone
> > else has some thoughts or questions, or want to try this themselves,
> > I'd surely appreciate it.

> > maddman

> Me: "You know, every now and then a certain woman tells me that, but
> then, mothers saying things like that about their sons."

> We laughed.

> HB8: "Hey, I know what you mean!" "Only my mother embarrasses me
> sometimes when she does that."

> Me: "Don't tell me...In front of a prospective man she sees to match
> you up with?"
> HB8: (Laughs) "Yes, that's precisely what my mother does!"

> (I kinoed her, but not to anchor her)

> At this point, HB8's girlfriend had approached the car and looked at
> me a little suspicious. She seemed to have wondered who I was by the
> look I'd seen on her face. HB8's girlfriend was an HB8.9

> HB8 explained to HB8.9 what had been taken place between us. This
> eased her suspicion a little about me.

> HB8: "So where were you headed this late at night?"
> Me: "Pretty much the same thing you two are about to do."
> HB8: "Clubbing?"
> Me: "No, over to get a bite to eat."
> HB8: "Yeah, where to?"
> Me: "Turn around and see for yourself."
> HB8: "Wow, we just passed through that street and didn't even see that
> restaurant there..."
> Me: "Even with such attractive eyes I think the two of you must have,
> I could see that to heads aren't necessarily better than one...But
> then, with those sunglasses you two have on...it's know wonder how
> those pretty eyes couldn't see anything; much less compete to see in
> the dark." (I smiled)

> (I had Neged both HBs)

> Me: "A little price you pay to look cool?"

> HB8 and HB8.9 laughed.

> HB8.9: "Well, sometimes that does happen."
> HB8: "Yeah, but not when you're starving!"
> Me: "Yes, especially when the she lioness in your tummy growls."

> (I kinoed HB8's stomach as we'd heard it faintly rumble. No anchor,
> just a neg. HB8 had blushed a slight.)

> We laughed.

> HB8 turns to HB8.9 and told her that she was very hungry...

> Me: "Like a tigress out for prey, but it's not your fault...your just
> in the middle of it all."

> HB8 and HB8.9 looked at my slightly puzzled.

> Me: "Her mind says have some patience, her mouth says it better be
> good, and her tummy says just bring it on baby!" But as for you,
> you're just in the middle trying to mind your own business."

> We laughed.

> HB8: "No shit, that's precisely how I feel right now."

> We laughed again.

> Me: "I'll tell what, you have a sense of humor, but do you have a
> sense of adventure as well?"

> I'd asked HB8.

> Me: "Would you say you're the adventurous type of person?"
> HB8: "Why yes, I am."
> Me: "Ok...well, give me an idea what you would consider right now to
> do that you could say would be adventurous...and prove you have a
> sense of adventure in you as you claim to have."

> HB8 was silent and seemed to be thinking for a while.

> Me: "Let me make this easier for you. What if I'd asked you to do
> something small, common, and make it into something...adventurous
> right now?"

> Hb8.9: "I would stand on the hood of my car and dance."
> Me: "How much is that statement true?"

> I extend an open palm of my hand towards the hood of the car.

> HB8 smiled at HB8.9 and mimicked my gesture to the hood of the car.
> HB8.9 had looked at HB8 a little surprised then turned the radio of
> her car on. HB8.9 then jumped out of the car and onto the hood. She
> then had begun to dance to the music on the radio.

> We laughed.

> HB8.9 jumped off the hood and asked...

> HB8.9: "How's that for a sense of adventure."
> Me: "Hmmm...that was good...but it probably would have been a little
> better if you'd shaken your hips more."

> (I neged HB8.9 and at the same time leaving an open opportunity for
> me. I'll explain this technique in another post in detail about negs.
> Credit to Alphahot1 on this technique)

> Me: "And you? How about if I help you out in some way?" I'd asked HB8.
> HB8: "Like how?"
> Me: "Kiss me here." (I had pointed to my right cheek. Credit to
> Mystery on this technique)
> HB8 "Ok...(She smiled, blushed, and looked over to HB8.9 who had her
> palm opened and extended towards me.) Ok."

> HB8 leaned over the car door and kissed me on the right cheek.

> Me: "Well, that was nice, but somehow it didn't seem like you made
> that common kiss to seem...more adventurous?"

> (I had neged her)

> I then pointed to my left cheek. HB8 hesitated and looked at HB8.9
> again, but only to had seen HB8.9 repeat the same gesture again. HB8
> reached over and kissed my left cheek.

> Me: "What do you think?" I had asked HB8.9's opinion.
> HB8.9: "I think she almost had it there."
> Me: "Yes, she almost had it there. But it was a good kiss though."

> (I had neged HB8)

> I looked at HB8 and POINTED to my lips for her to kiss. HB8 at this
> point hadn't looked to HB8.9 for any support to bail her out of it.
> And HB8 of course hadn't wanted to look bad in front of her
> girlfriend. So, she'd reached out both hands, pulled me in, and gave
> me a long kiss to try and out do her girlfriend. After 30 seconds,
> we'd finished kissing.

> Me: "I think she has out done you there." I had told HB8.9

> HB8.9 LOOKED at HB8 and signaled me to go around to the other side of
> the car where she'd been. I'd gone around the car and had stood next
> to HB8.9. She reached over to where I'd been standing and gave me a 30
> second tongue down. As the 30 seconds were up, WE looked at HB8 who
> seemed a little ticked. She quickly lifted her blouse up exposing her
> tits to me. HB8.9 I'd seen that she wasn't about to let herself be out
> done, so turned to me and lifted her blouse up as well, but shook her
> exposed tits. Guess what, HB8 had REACTED back by having re-exposed
> her tits, shaken them, and added some bounce for emphasis. At this
> point, I'd wanted to laugh out loud as I'd watched to best girlfriends
> compete with each other, trying to prove who was the more adventurous
> one.

> Me: "Hey, I tell you what...let's call it a draw between the two of
> you." I had suggested.

> We laughed. But I could tell they weren't quite satisfied with the
> decision. So I told them I'd invite them both to my apartment so that
> I could cook for them something that seemed normal, into something
> more interesting and challenging to their taste buds -- rather than
> having to eat those things HB8.9 bought at the filling station. They
> agreed.

> We'd arrived 5 minutes later to my apartment and I'd begun to make
> them Italian sauce on spaghetti. As I'd planned and knew what would
> happen, it turned out they took over to cook for me instead. They were
> at it trying to compete again, but this time for my approval as to who
> was the better adventurous one. ; )

> One thing I learned from an uncle of mine, and that is that for some
> people, Italian sauce on spaghetti can act as an aphrodisiac. How much
> this is true, well, I could say as for me, it has that kind of affect
> on me.

> Afterwards we'd played more games and had drunk half a bottle of Jack
> Daniels. I made sure they didn't have too much to drink. For me,
> personally, I like it better when women still have their senses or
> half of them, so that way they can remember the next day what they'd
> experienced with me, so they'd want to come back for more.

> The night finished with a threesome and they stayed over until the
> next day. Oh incidentally, they even tried to compete with each other
> with who can please me better or fuck me better. I'll say this much
> about them...they sure were two too very competitive females. But you
> know, the funny part of it all, neither of the two found out who was
> the better adventurous one.  ; )

> TantraX7 (a.k.a.Tomahawk)

> "She's so conceited -- when she turns away from her mirror, she thinks
> she's cheating!"

> Ok, here we go.

> You want to give her a reason why she should come out with you, have an excuse,
> AND make her want to come with you.
> The first, is a reason for the invitation, the second is the DESIRE to come with
> you. Give her those two, and she will be out in a second.

> You: Hey, sorry not called you earlier, i was helping my friend at club XYZ,
> rewire the deck. it is the big show tonight, and we needed to test the speakers.
> You: sorry for being late.
> [pause]
> You: i was thinking, i have a three hours free time before the party, do you
> wanna come over to the mall food court and share a chinnesse?
> Her: [yaaabadabadooo]

> Make up some shit man, they are just chicks, not the justice department.

>http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/04_She_Is_Interested/home.shtml

>> My room is a fucking mess.