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for it.
For real!
A Modern Caveman
That's the point: one doesn't have to pay a stripper.
HC
>>paying
>>for it.
>>
>>For real!
>That's the point: one doesn't have to pay a stripper.
Are you saying that in the past year you've gotten laid more than zero times
without paying for it?
Odious
A Modern Caveman wrote:
>
> ....these men here should be able to PROVE they can do it!
>
Should the same standard not also apply to you?
WHere is your proof ray?
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> That's the point: one doesn't have to pay a stripper.
>
>
You know a place to get free Lap Dances ??!!??
Pretty Please will you post the name and address of this Place ????
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If you can't do it, then it proves that you're so pathetic that
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>
>Are you saying that in the past year you've gotten laid more than zero times
>without paying for it?
Unless you want to count incidental expenses such as travel, food, etc. (not
splurging on her but my own expenses), then yes, many times.
Still, it's interesting to note that professional athletes often talk about
their groupies the same way they do prostitutes. To them, buying women or
taking a groupie is pretty much the same thing. The recent scandal of this
type showed that if you're going to put down men who pay for sex, there will be
a lot of professional athletes on the list, but not me.
On this group if you watch how the men talk about money it becomes clear that
more of it is probably changing hands between them and the women that they
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>>
>>
>
> You know a place to get free Lap Dances ??!!??
Not at the club, though some will give you one at the bar for free.
> Pretty Please will you post the name and address of this Place ????
You miss the point: you don't have to spend ANY money on strippers to get laid
by them. As many men here have said, spending money is a hinderance.
"Stripper Gold" can be used with or without money. My personal view about
money is the same for strippers as with Foxhunting: it should be used
tactically, i.e., not spent directly on any one woman, but used instead to
improve a man's overall chances (think of the example I gave in OTF of the man
who rents a two-bedroom apartment in NYC while keeping one room empty).
I have a friend who did this and he said he could always get a woman to live
with him with no problems if he wanted. He wasn't rich but had rent control
which is the same thing (he pays about $400 a month for a two-bedroom on the
Upper East Side of NYC).
Odious
A Modern Caveman wrote:
>
> >>That's the point: one doesn't have to pay a stripper.
> >
> >Are you saying that in the past year you've gotten laid more than zero times
> >without paying for it?
>
> Unless you want to count incidental expenses such as travel, food, etc. (not
> splurging on her but my own expenses), then yes, many times.
>
Sure ray, but you've been proven in court to be a liar, so where is your
proof of all these strippers you fucked?
Or is your case of herpes your proof?
HC
>>
>>Are you saying that in the past year you've gotten laid more than zero times
>>without paying for it?
>Unless you want to count incidental expenses such as travel, food, etc. (not
>splurging on her but my own expenses), then yes, many times.
You are aware that *nobody* believes you, yes?
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> On 01 Feb 2003 06:14:27 GMT, amodern...@aol.com (A
> Modern Caveman) wrote:
>
> >That's the point: one doesn't have to pay a stripper.
>
> But Ray, surely you'd classify a woman who shows her cunt to
> anyone who'll pay her as a 'slut' or a 'whore'? Why would
> you be interested in them and not in 'quality women'?
Ahh! Nice! Hitting him where he lives! Excellent repartee, I'll give
you two points,
--
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Bryen193
>....these men here should be able to PROVE they can do it!
And the author of "Stripper Gold" shouldn't?
Actually I *have* seduced & dated strippers, which is the main reason that I
know that your characterization of strippers as smart, businesslike, hauling in
$100,000 a year, sober and sexually responsible is complete horseshit.
Strippers, in general, are the ulimate party sluts. You know, those women that
you're constantly trashing...
But just for curiousity's sake, let's say you employ your method and actually
get the type of stripper that you are looking for and she's not on drugs,
doesn't turn tricks on the side, etc. She becomes your LTR, however your LTR
spends her working hours letting hundreds of men get up close and personal with
her every body part. Are you honestly saying that this wouldn't bother you?
You, who wouldn't tolerate YOUR woman so much as *speaking* to a "player"? Now
you might say that in order to continue with you, she would have to quit, but I
doubt it, since according to you, stripping (as a career choice) only ranks
below "performing artist" on the list of things that hot woman should do.
"They all want to embrace you; they are all taken in by your frigid elegance,
your postures and poses like frozen roses." - Thomas Ligotti
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A Modern Caveman
>
>Actually I *have* seduced & dated strippers, which is the main reason that I
>know that your characterization of strippers as smart, businesslike, hauling
>in
>$100,000 a year, sober and sexually responsible is complete horseshit.
>Strippers, in general, are the ulimate party sluts. You know, those women
>that
>you're constantly trashing...
>
>But just for curiousity's sake, let's say you employ your method and actually
>get the type of stripper that you are looking for and she's not on drugs,
>doesn't turn tricks on the side, etc. She becomes your LTR, however your LTR
>spends her working hours letting hundreds of men get up close and personal
>with
>her every body part. Are you honestly saying that this wouldn't bother you?
>You, who wouldn't tolerate YOUR woman so much as *speaking* to a "player"?
>Now
>you might say that in order to continue with you, she would have to quit, but
>I
>doubt it, since according to you, stripping (as a career choice) only ranks
>below "performing artist" on the list of things that hot woman should do.
Regardless of their long-term viability, learning how to seduce them is key.
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Or have you only met them in your imagination . . . like Gordie?
Bryen193
>Regardless of their long-term viability, learning how to seduce them is key.
Not until you've made a determination about the wisdom of doing it in the first
place. So, how would you feel about a continuing relationship with a stripper?
>The ones you seduced, did you meet them at their clubs?
No. I met them away from their place of work. Of course at first I thought
that dating a stripper would be a cool thing to do. Of course that was my dick
doing the thinking...
Alex
I did.
Odious
A Modern Caveman wrote:
>
> >And the author of "Stripper Gold" shouldn't?
> >
> >Actually I *have* seduced & dated strippers, which is the main reason that I
> >know that your characterization of strippers as smart, businesslike, hauling
> >in
> >$100,000 a year, sober and sexually responsible is complete horseshit.
> >Strippers, in general, are the ulimate party sluts. You know, those women
> >that
> >you're constantly trashing...
> >
> >But just for curiousity's sake, let's say you employ your method and actually
> >get the type of stripper that you are looking for and she's not on drugs,
> >doesn't turn tricks on the side, etc. She becomes your LTR, however your LTR
> >spends her working hours letting hundreds of men get up close and personal
> >with
> >her every body part. Are you honestly saying that this wouldn't bother you?
> >You, who wouldn't tolerate YOUR woman so much as *speaking* to a "player"?
> >Now
> >you might say that in order to continue with you, she would have to quit, but
> >I
> >doubt it, since according to you, stripping (as a career choice) only ranks
> >below "performing artist" on the list of things that hot woman should do.
>
> Regardless of their long-term viability, learning how to seduce them is key.
>
LOL! Yeah doesn't matter if it works, just that people buy your crap,
right ray?
Odious
Bryen193 wrote:
>
> amodern...@aol.com (A Modern Caveman):
>
> >The ones you seduced, did you meet them at their clubs?
>
> No. I met them away from their place of work. Of course at first I thought
> that dating a stripper would be a cool thing to do. Of course that was my dick
> doing the thinking...
I get the feeling the center piece of ray's stripper gold is meeting
strippers online. Then lying to them about being a psychic or offering
them lessons in hypnosis if they'll record a tape for him etc.
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amodern...@aol.com (A Modern Caveman) wrote:
>
A Modern Caveman
>
>
>I did.
Got details?
Also, don't you have an apartment in NEW YORK CITY?
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>
>Not until you've made a determination about the wisdom of doing it in the
>first
>place. So, how would you feel about a continuing relationship with a
>stripper?
It would depend on the specific one, as it would with any woman.
>
>>The ones you seduced, did you meet them at their clubs?
>
>No. I met them away from their place of work.
Which is tangential to the concept of turning a strip club into a viable place
to find pussy (if you want that sort of thing). I see talk here about how the
normal seduction methods don't work in strip clubs, but I'm finding them easier
and easier places to operate, and not at any great cost (money is actually a
hinderance in many cases).
>Of course at first I thought
>that dating a stripper would be a cool thing to do. Of course that was my
>dick
>doing the thinking...
As opposed to how you NOW choose women?
Alex
amodern...@aol.com wrote on 2/5/03 6:17 AM:
>>> The ones you seduced, did you meet them at their clubs?
>>
>>
>> I did.
>
> Got details?
Not for you.
Maybe when YOU start meeting your own challenges of proof.
>
> Also, don't you have an apartment in NEW YORK CITY?
>
Didn't always go to my place.
A Modern Caveman
>>>
>>>
>>> I did.
>>
>> Got details?
>
>Not for you.
For the rest of the group?
>Maybe when YOU start meeting your own challenges of proof.
Or maybe not....since strippers are pretty easy to seduce, it wouldn't surprise
me to learn any man does it.
>> Also, don't you have an apartment in NEW YORK CITY?
>>
>
>Didn't always go to my place.
Which goes to show that where you lived, in those cases, wasn't relevant.
I find with strippers, they care the LEAST about how, where, or with whom I
live. Most of them have had enough domestic problems not to think so
superficially.
Still, being in NYC can be very advantageous as opposed to a smaller area.
A Modern Caveman
Actually, I tend NOT to date women who record for me (or who do phone at about
85 percent less than the going rate -- I pay them what little I do so they show
up on time more than anything), or who might, and I don't count the strippers I
meet online (most of them have walls up on the net anyway or don't admit they
are strippers).
No, what I'm talking about here is a simple PLUCK, walking into a strip club
and walking out with #s, e-mails, or whatever (I don't like walking out with
the dancers as there is that Bluto thing and it can hurt the club's rep if guys
are seen getting play).
Without question, the strip club customer has *every* advantage if he knows how
to use it. Some of them are obvious, some are subtle, but I have woven my
analysis of this game into something that is very easy to execute, and because
strippers are trained to treat ALL men as desirable, the man really doesn't
even have to have that much going for him.
The hypnosis gimmicks I do use are not even the strongest. I could think of
five or six other gimmicks that would work a lot better. Often, however, no
gimmick is required.
I should point out here that befriending the staff is not part of this gimmick,
although I'm sure someone like Mystery would find a way to work that in.
HC
>Actually, I tend NOT to date women
Monkeys?
Giraffes?
Produce one woman that would date you without payment . . . up front. He can't
do it can he?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>I don't count the strippers I
>meet online
Online strippers? Is Ray dating his hard drive again? Somebody check his
palms for hair.
Bryen193
>>Not until you've made a determination about the wisdom of doing it in the
>>first
>>place. So, how would you feel about a continuing relationship with a
>>stripper?
>
>It would depend on the specific one, as it would with any woman.
Of course, but you're not really answering the question. Under what
circumstances would it be acceptable to you to "date" or conduct an LTR with a
woman who displays her body in a sexual manner, up close and personal, to
hundreds of other men each working day? Does this factor into your decision at
all (positively or negatively), or would your decision (to date or not to date)
be based soley on other factors?
>>>The ones you seduced, did you meet them at their clubs?
>>
>>No. I met them away from their place of work.
>
>Which is tangential to the concept of turning a strip club into a viable
>place
>to find pussy (if you want that sort of thing).
Indeed. I have nothing to offer in terms of in-club pickup experience, since I
don't go to them.
>>Of course at first I thought
>>that dating a stripper would be a cool thing to do. Of course that was my
>>dick
>>doing the thinking...
>
>As opposed to how you NOW choose women?
Precisely...
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>
beaute'_d...@europa.org
says...
Hypocrite!
Vous servez de bien que votre histoire d'internet et les commentaires negatifs
precedents des danseurs exotiques ne sont pas enregistres dans l'archive.
Vous changez votre histoire comme souvent comme le vent change des directions.
M
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Got details?
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>
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>
Paul Robinson
Oh il fait plus que cela. Il change son histoire environ aussi souvent qu'il prend
une merde, qui a basé sur sa histoire de signalisation est environ 10 fois par
seconde.
A Modern Caveman
>>>stripper?
>>
>>It would depend on the specific one, as it would with any woman.
>
>Of course, but you're not really answering the question. Under what
>circumstances would it be acceptable to you to "date" or conduct an LTR with
>a
>woman who displays her body in a sexual manner, up close and personal, to
>hundreds of other men each working day?
Asked and answered: I don't date legal secretaries.
> Does this factor into your decision
>at
>all (positively or negatively), or would your decision (to date or not to
>date)
>be based soley on other factors?
See above.
>>>>The ones you seduced, did you meet them at their clubs?
>>>
>>>No. I met them away from their place of work.
>>
>>Which is tangential to the concept of turning a strip club into a viable
>>place
>>to find pussy (if you want that sort of thing).
>
>Indeed. I have nothing to offer in terms of in-club pickup experience, since
>I
>don't go to them.
I don't either, for the most part, but when I go, I get more plucks than any
man should.
Then again, can strip clubs be viable at all if it's becoming so simple to
seduce the dancers? This can't be good for their business prospects because it
defeats the purpose of the club.
>>>Of course at first I thought
>>>that dating a stripper would be a cool thing to do. Of course that was my
>>>dick
>>>doing the thinking...
>>
>>As opposed to how you NOW choose women?
>
>Precisely...
Which is how?
If you don't go for looks first, you're going for less of a degree of
difficulty.
Just as a woman wouldn't be accomplishing much from a "pickup" standpoint if
she got some fat short guy with a heart of gold to marry her, even if she's
happy with him.
You got a music gimmick anyway.
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>I don't date legal secretaries.
No kidding?
s it that there's no legal secretary blow up dolls in the catalogue?
Odious
A Modern Caveman wrote:
>
> >> The ones you seduced, did you meet them at their clubs?
> >
> >
> >I did.
>
> Got details?
Ray why should anybody take your requests for details seriously, when you
can't even produce a picture of you and a chick?
Odious
A Modern Caveman wrote:
>
> >> amodern...@aol.com (A Modern Caveman):
> >>
> >> >The ones you seduced, did you meet them at their clubs?
> >>
> >> No. I met them away from their place of work. Of course at first I
> >thought
> >> that dating a stripper would be a cool thing to do. Of course that was my
> >dick
> >> doing the thinking...
> >
> >I get the feeling the center piece of ray's stripper gold is meeting
> >strippers online. Then lying to them about being a psychic or offering
> >them lessons in hypnosis if they'll record a tape for him etc.
>
> Actually, I tend NOT to date women who record for me
LOL! You tend not to date at all, ray. Why split hairs, when you're
bald??
>(or who do phone at about
> 85 percent less than the going rate -- I pay them what little I do so they show
> up on time more than anything), or who might, and I don't count the strippers I
> meet online (most of them have walls up on the net anyway or don't admit they
> are strippers).
So in other words, they won't give you the time of day unless you pay
them.
>
> No, what I'm talking about here is a simple PLUCK, walking into a strip club
> and walking out with #s, e-mails, or whatever
Ray, you are a fucking clueless moron. You bragging about a stripper
giving you a number in the club is like some dipshit bragging about
getting a free drink in a vegas casino... like he scamed it or something.
I bet when you get that e-mail that says some chick saw your profile and
wants you to come look at her website, you probably think it is a real
chick, don't you?
There are only two reasons a stripper will give you her number in a club,
either she is letting you think you got a shot in order to get more money
out of you, or she is hooking on the side. Now ray I know you're a fool
with little experience with women, but I didn't think you were that
fucking stupid.
Not only did you buy the scam, you bought it so hard you think you got
some new hot shit method. That's just sad ray, sad.
>(I don't like walking out with
> the dancers as there is that Bluto thing and it can hurt the club's rep if guys
> are seen getting play).
Amazing how all the shit you CAN'T do also just happens to be the shit
you "don't like." They won't walk out of the club with you, because that
would make it harder to run the scam on the next pathetic loser.
>
> Without question, the strip club customer has *every* advantage if he knows how
> to use it. Some of them are obvious, some are subtle, but I have woven my
> analysis of this game into something that is very easy to execute, and because
> strippers are trained to treat ALL men as desirable, the man really doesn't
> even have to have that much going for him.
>
Ray, read the shit you are writing. You have not woven a damn thing.
You are approaching women who routinely fleece total desperate losers
like you by letting them think they have a chance. And the pathetic part
is, you're bragging about it like you scored.
A.Melon
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amodern...@aol.com (A Modern Caveman) wrote:
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See above.
Which is how?