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AbsolutXero

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Sep 1, 2001, 11:30:18 PM9/1/01
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Mystery:
You claim that stories are integral components of the successful pickup.
I agree. But truthful stories require truthful events, and exciting stories
require an exciting lifestyle. The very fact that I am here shows that my
life is lacking. Should I lie or stretch the truth (in these stories) to
attract the women I desire and project the confident image I want?

BTW: Ethics aren't an issue.

Thank you for your enlightening opinions. I am a devoted fan.

-- AbsolutXero


Pimp For A Living

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Sep 2, 2001, 3:04:26 AM9/2/01
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Hey,

Check this out... I am not Mystery, but totally, do this.. Make an
exciting life for yourself. Then there will be no lies. Chicks do not care
about lies. The fact that you are here shows that your life is lacking?
Well, I don't know about you, but I had many fine women all up on me
tonight. So think this through... Go out and make a good life for yourself.
That is the key. Who cares what anyone else thinks is cool or worthwhile? Go
out and do what interests you, no matter what... And always go out and get
those Asian girls... Yes, do that...Do not lie, whatever you do. If you want
to be a dumbass, then go ahead and lie, otherwise, tell the truth, and if
she doesn't like it, then she can kiss your ass while you go find another
girl who does. Honesty is always the best policy, so go out and mash on them
hoes. And next the ones who can't be bothered.

PFAL

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Rio

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Sep 2, 2001, 7:16:50 AM9/2/01
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You have to get a life before you will have good stories that are your own.
This means GETTING THE FUCK OUT OF THE HOUSE and finding something to get
into.

When you have things to talk about... things that you want other people to
know about.... it becomes simple to tell the stories and exaggerate them...
throw in a bit of pattern langauge... and there you go.

My stories (and I have a Word doc full of them) all relate to some part of
the Maniac plan. In which case it's easy... I just go up and start telling
them about the cool thing that happened to me the other day where.... blah
blah blah blah

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Mystery

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Sep 2, 2001, 7:54:28 AM9/2/01
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like a comedian, many bits come from reality but the comedian learns that
removing parts that arent funny and changing things to make it more funny
are a part of the game. Same with YOUR routines. Maybe a story is a year
old, but you can say, "Earlier today ..." just to make your routine concise.
It doesnt matter that it was a year ago so you remove that fromt the
routine. Maybe your friend was driving the car but its funnier and more
concise if you say YOU were. Change the stories any way you like. If you
want to concoct entire stories, hell, do it! Remember, a carefully
constructed first impression, conveying and demonstrating the 5
characteristics of an alphamale will get you the girl.

Mystery

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Mystery

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Sep 2, 2001, 7:59:02 AM9/2/01
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you know what will help you make a good life? strongly consider doing the
photo routine on women. See, you will need to take the time to take those
adventurious photos that you will be showing the girls. It takes time to
make these photos so you have to schedule weekly adventurous outings so you
can stage some good photo ops. rock climbing, being on stage, skiing,
water-skiing, hanging with friends, eating great food, meeting your idols,
hanging with HBs, etc. Not only will you LIVE a great life, but you will
RECORD these moments for the photo routine. And then ... you dont have to
TELL your target how adventurous and amazing your life is; you can just SHOW
the pix (saying you JUST got them developed) ... great for strippers too!

mystery


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Pimp For A Living

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Sep 2, 2001, 11:33:11 AM9/2/01
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I like the photo idea. I have never been one to snap up a great deal of
photographs, as I usually just lose them, but that sounds like a reasonable
idea. The thing is, though, do you take those around with you, or do you
keep them at home and show them when you get the girl back to your house?
Maybe keep them in the car?

PFAL

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AbsolutXero

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Sep 2, 2001, 5:27:30 PM9/2/01
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Pimp, check this out:
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=1&mn=949
90388139257

-- AbsolutXero

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Brother Ketel

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Sep 3, 2001, 6:37:50 PM9/3/01
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Rio makes a good point. First, GO OUT AND GET A LIFE. Seriously, start
getting involved with non-ASF things that interest you: sailing, motorcycle
racing, whatever. This is enormously important. After all, you are trying to
convey to women that you have a rich, rewarding life and she has to PROVE
she's worth your time/attention, etc. Can't really do this properly if
you're faking your way through here.

Secondly, I recommend that all of you get in a habit of WRITING THINGS DOWN.
Hear a good joke? Write it down. Heard a great quote from a movie? Write it
down. Came up with an interesting thought? Write it down. Then, get in the
habit of reviewing your notes. I keep a Word doc of all the funny quotes,
jokes and stories I have either come up with myself , experienced, or heard
from other sources. I cannot possibly recall how many times I have been able
to rehash some of that material in opportune times.

It's a great habit to get into.

Ketel

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Volfik

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Sep 3, 2001, 6:58:36 PM9/3/01
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On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 20:30:18 -0700, AbsolutXero <ri...@qwest.net> wrote:
>Mystery:
> You claim that stories are integral components of the successful pickup.
>I agree. But truthful stories require truthful events, and exciting stories
>require an exciting lifestyle. The very fact that I am here shows that my
>life is lacking.

Well, I'm here too and i don't think *my* life is lacking.

> Should I lie or stretch the truth (in these stories) to
>attract the women I desire and project the confident image I want?

Hmmm. Remember, women can detect bullshit, too. And outright lies, usually
better than men can.

I personally wouldn't do this (OK, maybe a few minor lies and halftruths,
but certainly not making up stories wholesale), I don't think I'm
a good enough actor. I doubt if you are too, since you come across
as having low self-esteem.


--
Volfik

Bet For A Living

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Sep 4, 2001, 11:13:41 AM9/4/01
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>you know what will help you make a good life? strongly consider doing the
>photo routine on women. See, you will need to take the time to take those
>adventurious photos that you will be showing the girls. It takes time to
>make these photos so you have to schedule weekly adventurous outings so you
>can stage some good photo ops. rock climbing, being on stage, skiing,
>water-skiing, hanging with friends, eating great food, meeting your idols,
>hanging with HBs, etc. Not only will you LIVE a great life, but you will
>RECORD these moments for the photo routine. And then ... you dont have to
>TELL your target how adventurous and amazing your life is; you can just SHOW
>the pix (saying you JUST got them developed) ... great for strippers too!

That is SO lame...propaganda.


Ray Gordon, Author
The Nice-Guy Graveyard: Where men go to bury their kindness and be the jerk
women love
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html

Bet For A Living

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Sep 4, 2001, 11:15:41 AM9/4/01
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>like a comedian, many bits come from reality but the comedian learns that
>removing parts that arent funny and changing things to make it more funny
>are a part of the game. Same with YOUR routines. Maybe a story is a year
>old, but you can say, "Earlier today ..." just to make your routine concise.
>It doesnt matter that it was a year ago so you remove that fromt the
>routine. Maybe your friend was driving the car but its funnier and more
>concise if you say YOU were. Change the stories any way you like. If you
>want to concoct entire stories, hell, do it! Remember, a carefully
>constructed first impression, conveying and demonstrating the 5
>characteristics of an alphamale will get you the girl.

Unless I warn her of what you're doing and why....then she thinks you're a LAME
LOSER.

Discl...@helferlein.net

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Sep 4, 2001, 5:51:56 PM9/4/01
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(Regulars : you can filter this message via the author name
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Disclaimer re : 'Bet For A Living' aka Ray Gordon (fake name) aka
Gordon Roy Parker (real name)

Also posts as 'dev...@no-id.com' from where he spams the group with
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IF YOU ARE NEW to this group please take note:

Gordon Roy Parker currently makes frequent daily posts to the following
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In all 4 groups, the opinion of many participants is that Gordon is an
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daily. In all four groups many are of the opinion that Gordon's posts
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Gordon Roy Parker suffers from a mental illness called
"Manic/Depression" sometimes also called 'Bi-Polar Disorder'. He has
himself stated this. This disorder is characterized by alternating
periods of mania and depression. In a manic phase the sufferer
experiences a euphoric high and experiences delusions of both grandeur
and superior abilities. The cycle then gradually swings to the
depressive phase, where the sufferer can experience crippling
depressive symptoms. It should be noted that Gordon Roy Parker has
indeed made past usenet posts in which he threatened to kill himself.

Some people also think Gordon Roy Parker has a narcissistic personality
complex. A narcissistic personality has the following traits:

1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g, exaggerates
achievements and talents,

2. expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate
achievements

3. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power,
brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

4. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be
understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status
people (or institutions)

5. requires excessive admiration

6. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her
expectations

7. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to
achieve his or her own ends

8. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the
feelings and needs of others

9. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of
him or her shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Gordon seems to try to engage in ANY conversation and be recognized.
He often makes off-topic posts, flames others with insults or makes
otherwise provocative and inflamatory statements.

Many would agree that Gordon's predicament is unfortunate. Lots of
people have mental illnesses and are able to lead productive and
fulfilling lives. But it would seem that, rather than obtain adequate
treatment for his problem and explore his issues with a therapist to
hopefully move his life in a positive direction, Gordon instead insists
on spending every available waking moment on usenet where he has
alienated himself from most of the remaining usenet population by being
as disruptive, vengeful and taunting as possible. He has sometimes made
in excess of 60 usenet posts in a single 24 hour period (eg 64 posts on
Aug 31 2001 alone), yet still tells people that he's busy working on
numerous projects and filing numerous legal actions. One could wonder,
with the time he spends on usenet, how he has time for anything else
from an actual job to actually filing one of the many legal actions
that he constantly says are imminent, to eating and sleeping.

Gordon is 34 years old, admits to having herpes and has claimed that
all women are whores and "cunts". This statement, since it includes all
women, would imply his own mother is a whore and a "cunt". Yet he still
seems to feel qualified to offer unsolicited advice, even when
specifically requested not to, and spams the groups with ads for his
website and products. The fact that all his advice and products are
given and sold under a phony name ie "Ray Gordon" says an awful lot.

While some people think Gordon's condition is unfortunate and would
wish him the best if he sought treatment, they feel his current
behavior detracts from the functioning of our group. Please be aware
that responding to his posts may encourage him to post further.
Consider not replying to his inflamatory posts, or even filter his
posts out of your newsreader listings.

Remember, all the info you need is free. Knowledgeable people with
experience will help you out and they won't try to sell you something
in the process.

Two great and REPUTABLE sites to get you started are:
http://www.fastseduction.com/
http://www.pickupguide.com/

If you wish to filter out Gordon's posts, as well as those of other
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(Regulars : you may filter this message via the author name
"Disclaimer")

Disclaimer re: "Bet For A Living" aka "Ray Gordon" (a fake name) aka

Gordon Roy Parker (real name)

Also posts as dev...@no-id.com, from which he spams the group with

conspiracy theories regarding a man by the name of Ross Jeffries.

IF YOU ARE NEW to this group then take note:

Gordon Roy Parker currently makes frequent daily posts to the following
usenet groups:

alt.seduction.fast
alt.romance
alt.hypnosis
alt.sports.gymnastics

In all four groups, the opinion of many participants is that Gordon is

an idiot. In all four groups Gordon threatens to sue people, sometimes
daily. In all four groups many are of the opinion that Gordon's posts

detract from the functioning and purpose of the group and that he has

emotional problems. The alt.hypnosis group ALSO posts a disclaimer
after each of his posts.

Gordon Roy Parker suffers from a serious mental illness called

"Manic/Depression" sometimes also called "Bi-Polar Disorder". He has
himself stated this. This disorder is characterized by alternating
periods of mania and depression. In a manic phase the sufferer
experiences a euphoric high and experiences delusions of both grandeur

and superior abilities. The cycle then gradually changes to the
depressive phase where the sufferer can experience crippling depressive

symptoms. It should be noted that Gordon Roy Parker has indeed made
past usenet posts in which he threatened to kill himself.

Some people also think Gordon Roy Parker has a very narcissistic

personality complex. A narcissistic personality has the following
traits:

1. has a grandiose sense of self importance (e.g., exaggerates
achievements and talents,

2. expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate
achievements

3. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power,
brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

4. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be
understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status
people (or institutions)

5. requires excessive admiration

6. has a sense of entitlement, i.e. unreasonable expectations of

especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her
expectations

7. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to
achieve his or her own ends

8. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the
feelings and needs of others

9. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of
him or her shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Gordon seems to try to engage in ANY conversation and be recognized.
He often makes off-topic posts, flames others with insults or makes
otherwise provocative and inflamatory statements.

Many would agree that Gordon's predicament is unfortunate. Lots of
people have mental illnesses and are able to lead productive and
fulfilling lives. But it would seem that, rather than obtain adequate

treatment for his problem and explore his issues with a trained

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Mystery

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Sep 8, 2001, 9:33:25 AM9/8/01
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the photo routine: you keep the photos in your POCKET in the development
envelope and say you JUST got them back from the photomat.

mystery

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Mystery

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having a notebook is a PUA NECCESSITY!

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