Ray files suit against Viacom, Mystery, and Venusian Arts Corp.
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
The case number is 08-cv-3630 in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
federal court.
Claims include Lanham Act, Antitrust violations, and Fair Housing Act
violations.
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Arist" VH-1 show: http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
Alfred E. Neumann
news:Q5WdnTFmnvlLuArV...@pghconnect.com:
> Read the actual filing here:
>
> http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
>
> The case number is 08-cv-3630 in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
> federal court.
>
> Claims include Lanham Act, Antitrust violations, and Fair Housing Act
> violations.
>
Shouldn't you have proof-read the thing?
"titled the balance" my ass
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
> Shouldn't you have proof-read the thing?
>
> "titled the balance" my ass
Spellchecker missed it.
--
An Old Friend
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
> > Shouldn't you have proof-read the thing?
> >
> > "titled the balance" my ass
>
> Spellchecker missed it.
Given your Usenet posts, you should get a new spellchecker.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
An Old Friend
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
> Read the actual filing here:
>
> http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
>
> The case number is 08-cv-3630 in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
> federal court.
>
> Claims include Lanham Act, Antitrust violations, and Fair Housing Act
> violations.
<snicker>
Vance
<r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
> > Shouldn't you have proof-read the thing?
>
> > "titled the balance" my ass
>
> Spellchecker missed it.
>
How did you come up with this gem of English usage?
"While there are no laws about revealing information to the public,
even if it
harms the information, ...."
What court was it that complimented you on your writing?
Pentalope
> Read the actual filing here:
>
> http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
>
> The case number is 08-cv-3630 in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
> federal court.
>
> Claims include Lanham Act, Antitrust violations, and Fair Housing Act
> violations.
>
Just read through it. Will fail due to EXACTLY the SAME reasons as ALL
his previous lawsuits failed - mere allegations with no link to the real
world...
Ray, why not just go on holiday and take a new direction? Aren't you
tired of wasting your life on USENET?
Pentalope
Shhh!!! It's more fun when the JUDGE points that out ... ;)
Vance
<r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
> Read the actual filing here:
>
> http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
>
> The case number is 08-cv-3630 in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
> federal court.
>
> Claims include Lanham Act, Antitrust violations, and Fair Housing Act
> violations.
>
You have managed to prove, again, that your knowledge of and about the
law is flawed. Gordon, you have a law school right down the street
from you. Why don't you trade some of your 'valuable' seduction
training (worth thousands <snicker>) and have a law student look over
your work product. Maybe, just maybe, they might have a valuable
pointer or two for you.
They would be more valuable to you than you will be to them, but who
says it has to be equitable?
Pentalope
> Claims include Lanham Act, Antitrust violations, and Fair Housing Act
> violations.
>
"As plaintiff is proceeding Pro Se and is, ostensibly
neither an attorney nor well-versed in the law and procedure
involved in the pursuit of his claim, this Court recommends
that he seek counsel before proceeding further in what appears
to be a complex action."
"Nor does Plaintiff cite to any law to support his legal assertion
... Rather, Plaintiff offers one mere conclusory statement that he is
likely to prevail on the merits of his claim... Without more than mere
conclusions, this Court cannot consider and weigh the factors necessary"
Thurdust
with a 22 line sig:
Thurdust
> Gordon Roy Parker, disguised as Ray Gordon, wrote in a 10 line article
> with a 22 line sig:
>
> > Read the actual filing here:
>
> >http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
Say, Gordon, wasn't there a bit in that letter that contained your
9/11 rants? Why did you feel the need to remove that portion of the
letter in your latest kooksoot?
And why do you think that Mr. Trunk wrote the letter, and then had
Wintermute mail it to your mother? If Mr. Trunk wrote said letter, why
wouldn't he mail it? And why do you think that JJTj is working for
Mystery, Ross Jeffries and/or Mr. Trunk? Also, tell us about the
second, similar letter that contained the note saying that it was
being sent to your neighbors.
Also, you think you're entitled to $30,000,000.00 (THAT'S THIRTY
FUCKING MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS!) because some people made fun of you
on Usenet? And that one (or more) of these people sent your mother a
letter?
Also, why are you filing this Pro Se? Can't you just direct one of the
lawyers in Ray's international team of lawyers (RITOL) to sue for you?
>
> > The case number is 08-cv-3630 in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
> > federal court.
>
> > Claims include Lanham Act, Antitrust violations, and Fair Housing Act
> > violations.
>
Also, shame on JJTj for making all those shill dollars and not telling
the rest of us how to get in on the action. Shame, JJTj.
JJTj
>And why do you think that Mr. Trunk wrote the letter, and then had
>Wintermute mail it to your mother? If Mr. Trunk wrote said letter, why
>wouldn't he mail it? And why do you think that JJTj is working for
>Mystery, Ross Jeffries and/or Mr. Trunk? Also, tell us about the
>second, similar letter that contained the note saying that it was
>being sent to your neighbors.
I didn't bother to read grp-ie's crap, till I read this post.
Parker, you better be able to *PROVE* I am a paid shill, that
I work for this 'Mr. Trunk'. Since you can't, as I am not
paid by anyone, and don't even know who 'Mr. Trunk' is, should
I have to get involved in any of this, be prepared for counter suit.
In fact, I will call the court this week, and see how I can get
you to PROVE your lies. Parker, it's a shame you have nothing
to ask for damages in this matter. But you made a major mistake.
>Also, shame on JJTj for making all those shill dollars and not telling
>the rest of us how to get in on the action. Shame, JJTj.
In fact, if anyone can (this included you Parker) can prove I have
ever collected $one from any source involved in this k00ksuit, I will
pay them $10k cash. Come on grp-ie. Step right up. Back your mouth.
I can prove you to be the child molesting, hate monging, herpes infested
faggot who wants to marry 13 yr olds, wants to kill yourself as a woman,
and yes, so much more. You can't prove anything. No, you can prove what
I say because I use your own words as proof. Your own big mouth.
JJTj
From: ask...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Guess what? Ray won't talk to me!!! =)
Date: 1998/03/19
Message-ID: <6esj9d$7a...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Newsgroups: alt.sports.gymnastics
As for being her Number One Fan, I claimed that title during our blowout
over Bela. What's not to love about a 13 year-old with the intensity of
Madonna? Couldn't help it.
--------------------
From: ray...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Confirm it or SHUT UP!
Date: 1998/04/05
Message-ID: <6g7jat$v9...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Newsgroups: alt.sports.gymnastics
Whether you choose to believe it or not, the story is true. Dominique
Moceanu really is An American Slave. To cheer her gymnastics is to root for
child abuse, and that is something I refuse to do. To punish her for her
personality that cries out that she is an abused child is also a crime in my
book, and that is why she has my unconditional love, and why she always
will, whether she loves me enough to want to marry me, whether she hates me
enough to want to kill me, or both.
___________________________________________________
From: sotw...@mindspring.com (Ray Gordon)
Subject: Time to cast a spell
Date: 16 Dec 1997 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <3496fd63...@news.mindspring.com>
X-Server-Date: 16 Dec 1997 22:21:43 GMT
Reply-To: sotw...@mindspring.com
Organization: ICN
Newsgroups: alt.sports.gymnastics
I am a psychic. When I can't find justice any other way, I cast a
spell. Here's another one:
I command the heavens to make this true: Any person who criticizes me
from this point forward will experience the following:
1. If they have a child in gymnastics, that child will suffer a
paralyzing injury in the gym;
2. If they do not have a child in gymnastics, their favorite gymnast
will suffer the same injury.
I do this not to wish injury on anyone, but to tell the Gods that I
have had enough of this criticism, and that if my request in the name
of God for people to begin looking at both sides of this story is not
heeded, then I will ask God to teach a lesson to those who ignore my
request.
Just so you know, I made a similar request regarding Tabitha a year
ago, she ignored it, and her son wound up ill in the hospital for the
entire summer. That is when she made her false allegations against me
which have led to what you see here.
Anyone else want to try me? If I turn out to be right, you will have
no one to blame but yourselves.
Don't mess with a psychic.
------------- Gordon Roy Parker on the day of 9/11 ------------------
>>"There was no significant loss of life in those towers. Not
>>a one."
>> - Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001
>>"This attack happened in my HOMETOWN, a hometown I do not
>>live in or work in because of illegal behavior. I hope those
>>who swiped my ability to live there enjoy the message they got from GOD
>>today.........."
>> - Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001
>>"In that building existed little more than a bunch of companies
>>which hire "office whores" and the like. I have no sympathy for
>>employment discriminators, and if someone had to die in this attack, I
>>couldn't think of a better group of people for the terrorists to pick."
>> - Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001
>>"Now you know what it's like to see your horrors mocked the way mine
>>have been. That's not mental illness, that's a political message,
>>apparently delivered quite brilliantly."
>> - Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001
>>"There was no significant loss of life in those towers. Their own
>>evil is what prevented me from being among the dead, and which added the
>>"Unknown Office Whore" to their numbers because god forbid some loser
>>executive would have to hire a man.Those corporations could have hired
>>me, put me to work in that building, let me live in NYC, and experience
>>all of the fun that's going on up there now."
>> - Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11
------ Gordon Roy Parker threatening children, the sick and elderly --------
>>Subject: Re: May Lissa's Mom DIE PAINFULLY ANDROT IN HELL****
>>x-no-archive: yes
>>Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:13:02 -0600
>>From: ray...@hotmail.com
>>Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
>>Newsgroups: alt.sports.gymnastics
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> ****Disclaimer: I was discriminated against on the basis of
>>gender today and told point-blank that this was the reason. Having been
>>taunted by the WHOREDENS and by Lissa over this, I consider it only fair
>>to return similar sentiments. When I get a full apology from Lissa, and
>>from Dave, and his website and RayFAQ go down, I will CONSIDER changing
>>my attitude.
>> Ray, first of all STOP CURSING, KIDS READ THIS TOO!! Dave, lol!
>>HA HAHA! dang! oh shit! maaaaaan...! lol! hmmmaaaa! Ray's gonna sue you!
>>looool!!!! [laughing] shit.... hire me as your lawyer. he he ha ha ha...
>>loooll
>> <----Stop Cursing? FUCK YOU. FUCK GYMNAST WHORES TOO. They
>>know DAMN well what goes on and what harmed me and they LAUGH at it.
>>May they all do a GOMEZ on vault and have the ambulance do a GRIVICH on
>>the way to the hospital if they are going to laugh at my career road
>>blocks, sexual road blocks that they CLAIM to disapprove of...except
>>when they need a job, so then it's okay to show a little ass, as long as
>>the boss doesn't try to touch that ass. FUCK THEM. They're moral
>>GARBAGE! They know it too; that's why they can't stand hearing it; if
>>it weren't true they wouldn't care. They're good for ONE THING and ONE
>>THING only, and they know that too. If they want me to be nice to them,
>>let them undo a few years of damage and apologize for THEIR attitudes.
>>They bring this shit on themselves with their arrogance. Spoiled BRATS.
>> You think my suing Dave and Dominique is a joke? Keep laughing.
>>Please. I'd love it if you did. You want to be Dave's lawyer? Go right
>>ahead. You punks think this is playtime; you're in for an awfully rude
>>shock. I gave fair warning. Dave(and Dominique through Dave) said "Go
>>for it." I will. I'll go for every last ounce of gold that resides in
>>both their scumbag pockets.
>> See, I was being a NICE GUY about this before. I decided not to
>>be NICE anymore. I get really FUCKING PISSED OFFwhen people mock my
>>pain, enough to where I start focusing my energy on THEIR pain. Lissa's
>>pain. The pain of watching her mother die the same death my secretarial
>>career died. Yes, that death. I know what it's like to watch something
>>you love die. Watching my father die right in front of my eyes at age
>>12 wasn't as painful as watching women get sexually harassed by their
>>bosses, but that was nothing compared to the pain of seeing women mock
>>the issue, like it were okay, like they couldn't have the courage to do
>>the right thing.
>> Lissa, watch your mom fade away and think of mycareer, and then
>>think of the fact that I can revive my career. Noone will be able to
>>revive your mom. No one. She's DYING, and she's DYING slowly. Does she
>>even remember your name anymore? I don't think so.....you think Dave's
>>such a nice guy? I don't. Hedoes that page for you, Missy, Dominique,
>>and all those wonderful girls who worship him. You think he's going to
>>get away with it? He's not. If you want to see God's punishment for your
>>treatment of me, watch it in your mom.
>> My last spell went to Jaycie's knees. She still competing?
>>Nope. The next one goes to Lissa's mom. Note her condition today and
>>see how she progresses from here. Don't mess with a psychic. After
>>this one is done I'll start REALLY wishing for some Gomez action on the
>>vault, and I'll start naming names and focusing ALL of my psychic energy
>>on it.
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> X-Admin: n...@aol.com
> From: iteachhypno...@aol.come4menow (Ray Gordon)
> Newsgroups: alt.romance
> Date: 20 Feb 2001 00:04:52 GMT
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Subject: AMAZING PROOF WOMEN ARE WHORES
> Message-ID: <20010219190452...@ng-bd1.aol.com>
> Xref: sn-us alt.romance:325108
>
>
> I go online as a female secretary looking for work again.
>
>
> Idiot lawyer solicits me for a job.
>
>
> Gives me his REAL name.
>
>
> His pic.
>
>
> The name of his firm.
>
>
> The name of the previous secretary he "wore out" before firing her.
>
>
> And a TON of other evidence which I could EASILY use to verify his
> identity.
>
>
> I thought about all the "Defenders of women" and how SILENT they'd be
> EVEN IF I posted all the evidence here.
>
>
> Never mind that he SOLICITED A PROSTITUTE in addition to
> discriminating.
>
>
> This is a very good-looking man. Very successful.
>
>
> What you folks would call a "winner."
>
>
> I wonder what God would call him?
>
>
> Of course, people would STILL say it's MY attitude, even in the face
> of evidence like this.
>
>
> Nothing makes me suicidal more quickly than to see this up front.
>
>
> I believe suicide should be a fundamental legal right.
>
>
> Suicide on demand.
>
>
> My body, my choice.
>
>
> A lawsuit can make that a reality. If I win, EVERY person gets the
> right to end their lives at any time for any reason.
>
>
> I think of all the neurotic women who would go off the deep end at
> some point under that law and how the gene pool would self-cleanse so
> quickly.
>
>
> I do have pity for the people who know these truths and ignore them,
> and what God will do to them for trying to blame me and for ignoring
> what happens to "women" while pretending to be their defenders.
>
>
> DISCLAIMER: I left USENET but have returned as "one-way Ray." I post
> but refuse to respond to people who can't handle truth about women and
> who feel compelled to lie about me.
** You admitted (see below) you ".wished."
** a child would die, JUST to get revenge on
** her mother for her crime of ".loving you."
SO, the question is, Mr. Gordon Roy Parker:
".how old was Michelle's daughter Cierra
when you "wished" she would die, and if
your "wish" could come true, what would
you "wish" to happen to her.. ?????? ."
...Usenet records seem to note her age at 6 or 7...
..again..PLEASE..for the record... Tell us all..
Does this refresh your memory, Mr. Parker..?
>>Path: news.alt.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!mail2news
>>Cc: cave...@nni.com
>>Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:58:08 -0400
>>Subject: Ray Takes FULL RESPONSIBLITY For The Michelle Mistake
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>>WARNING: If Oedipus, Krusty or Tusky respond to this message in any way,
>>I will return to ASF immediately. If they want me off that newsgroup
>>they can stay the hell out of my threads.
>>Read up. I post this not for myself, because I don't care what people
>>think of me. I post this for my METHOD, because it's being destroyed by
>>attacks on its creator.
>>I am going to clear the record on a few things here:
>>1. I DID wish death on Michelle's daughter Cierra. I did so in an
>>attempt to snap her back to reality after she had used others' defamation
>>of me as leverage to get me to want her. Why did I "hurt" her? I DID
>>NOT TALK TO HER. That's correct: my crime with Michelle was not falling
>>back in love with her after she had fallen in love with me for four
>>months, IMing me constantly, E-mailing me constantly, BEGGING me to love
>>her the way I "loved" "Dominique" (these two are in quotes because I
>>neither loved her nor necessarily knew her).
>>2. Wishing death on someone is not a crime. The words were spoken in
>>anger, after MONTHS of provocation
Main Entry: mo·lest
Pronunciation: m&-'lest
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French molester, from
Latin molestare, from molestus burdensome, annoying; akin to
Latin moles mass
1 : to annoy, disturb, or persecute especially with hostile
intent or injurious effect
2 : to make annoying sexual advances to; especially : to
force physical and usually sexual contact on
- mo·les·ta·tion /"mO-"les-'tA-sh&n, "mä-, -l&s-/ noun
- mo·lest·er /m&-'les-t&r/ noun
Alex
creator of absolutely nothing at r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 8/4/08 11:52
AM:
> Read the actual filing here:
>
> http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
>
> The case number is 08-cv-3630 in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
> federal court.
>
> Claims include Lanham Act, Antitrust violations, and Fair Housing Act
> violations.
Once again, long on assumptions and conclusions and short on facts and
evidence.
This going to be yet another non-starter.
But at least fr00t l00p is more concise (only 36 pages this time) and
nothing about the Sopranos or Batman.
Krus T. Olfard
I rather liked "Defendant Viacom made a “deal with the devil”".
Does he think he is a telly lawyer standing before the jury box and amazing
them with his language?
--
I'm an opinionated bastard. Everything I post is my opinion. If you do not
like my opinions then killfile me - if you like my opinions then send me
money.
The KTO Dictionary of Subjective Language
Tard: n Someone whose actions/words make her/him look like an idiot in
public but s/he is too disconnected to reality to realize it.
Krus T. Olfard
> You really should have read this
> http://www.aboutfalseadvertising.com/index1_files/False%20Advertising%2
> 0Primer.pdf prior to filing this suit. Where is your market study
> showing the Court how much money you had before Viacom came into your
> life, vs how much money you make now? No study? You can't prove
> damages, case dismissed.
>
The false advertising portion of Lanham has some very clear criteria
that need to be met.
His constant spew about Lanham Act violations very clearly ignore this.
Frisco Del Rosario
Alex <alex...@gmail.com> wrote:
> more concise (only 36 pages this time) and nothing about the Sopranos or Batman.
I'm disappointed. A Batman reference would've most timely given that
"The Dark Knight" is still #1.
Krus T. Olfard
news:Q5WdnTFmnvlLuArV...@pghconnect.com:
> Read the actual filing here:
>
> http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
>
> The case number is 08-cv-3630 in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
> federal court.
>
> Claims include Lanham Act, Antitrust violations, and Fair Housing Act
> violations.
>
Where else have I seen such a huge amount of unverified claims? Well, in
gordy roy's other kooksuits, I suppose. And in his posts to usenet.
Actually, from gordy roy parker, newzloon and legal buffoon, himself, no
one else.
Just imagine that your mind was such that this filing would seem valid to
you - kinda scary, ain't it.
John C. Randolph
<r...@cybersheet.com> said:
> Read the actual filing here:
>
> http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
Thirty-six pages.
Never learn, do you?
-jcr
John C. Randolph
> Where is your market study showing the Court how
> much money you had before Viacom came into your life, vs how much money you
> make now? No study? You can't prove damages, case dismissed.
It wouldn't even get that far. This one will get bounced for the same
reasons as all his other kooksuits, namely that they're incompetently
written.
-jcr
Thom E. Geiger
wrote:
>Where else have I seen such a huge amount of unverified claims? Well, in
>gordy roy's other kooksuits, I suppose. And in his posts to usenet.
>Actually, from gordy roy parker, newzloon and legal buffoon, himself, no
>one else.
It'll be interesting to see what happens with CA's anti-SLAPP laws,
seeing that Gordon Roy Parker claims, in this very complaint and every
other kooksoot complaint, to operate a commercial business himself,
which should put him as vulnerable to CA's anti-SLAPP laws as he
thinks Venusian Arts is to PA law.
As much as I've learned about pro se defense in the last 5 years, I
have yet to make my first amicus curiae submission to a federal court,
but given that porker has filed the same lies and libel about me to
another federal court, I think I'll see how far I get with one this
time. It will be especially interesting since gorgon has accused
others of libel and perjury, when he has committed both in this latest
complaint.
The time for prefiling restrictions is now and I hope at least one
defendant will move for them. I know I will ask for same in the amicus
curiae.
Oh, and the fact that you have never paid the court ordered costs from
the CA3 appeal will be mentioned prominently, porker, you child
obsessed shithead.
Thom E. Geiger, Domain Name Owner
Ray-Gordon.com
Ray-Gordon.net
Newsloon.com
Legal exhibit submitted by Gordon Roy Parker into the public record in PAED case #03-cv-6396
http://www.HeavyData.net/exhibit-c-parker-v-LTSC-03-cv-6396-EDPA--rayFAQ.zip
Don't buy anything from any business trying to use SLAPP lawsuits to
stop criticism of the company, owners, officers or products.
Guido Gump Parker blames a baseball bat death threat on his own mother, Penny "Skull Crusher" Parker:
>The "baseball bat" remark was made by my mom in response to a gymnastics
>groupie who harassed half of the national team, with help from several chat
>hosts and gymnastics coaches and hackers.
Odious
"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:Q5WdnTFmnvlLuArV...@pghconnect.com...
> Read the actual filing here:
>
Oh man... this is going to be bad for gordo.
"105. Several hours after Mrs. Marcos called Plaintiff, Mr. Trunk posted a
message to
ASF in which he claimed that Plaintiff had "harassed" Mrs. Marcos (a lie,
likely not originated
by Mrs. Marcos), and that he could wind up at "Gitmo" because she was in the
military.
106. The only way Mr. Trunk could have known about the conversation was
through
Mrs. Marcos telling her son, who told him. This establishes a clear
conspiratorial link between
Mr. Marcos, Mr. Trunk, and, by extension, Defendant Mystery and Ross
Jeffries, who was
seeking to gain favor with Defendant Mystery by having "his people" (Trunk)
target Plaintiff."
So would this be perjury? Since I have no clue who Mrs. Marcos is...
I assume gordo is referring to this post I made....
__________________________________________
From: "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam>
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: How stupid can gordita be....
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 15:17:57 -0700
A guy who publicly applauded Al Qaeda's attack on the world trade center and
cheered the thousands of dead Americans, would have to be really really
stupid to then go and start threatening women who are active duty in the
military.
And to do so with such a shity firewall on his mommy's computer.
Really really dumb.
Does Penny have any idea what you've gotten her into?
Maybe she should be notified before you land her in Gitmo?
__________________________________________
Gordo just swore to the court that "Mr. Trunk posted a message to ASF in
which he claimed that Plaintiff had "harassed" Mrs. Marcos (a lie, likely
not originated by Mrs. Marcos), and that he could wind up at "Gitmo" because
she was in the military."
Not only did I not mention any Mrs. Marcos.... I clearly said, ."Maybe she
[Ray's Mom] should be notified before you land her in Gitmo?"
But here's the really tragic part for gordo.... I was referring to a woman
I'd chatted with online, who was active duty military, and who gordo had
threatened and harassed. We were chatting, and the subject of weirdoes on
AOL came up and she started telling me about this kook who tried to get her
into some dom and sub role playing routine and when she wasn't into his
weird demands, he flipped out and started threatening to fuck with her life,
get her fired, get her kids taken away etc. I said, damn that sounds like
someone I know... and jokingly said, his name wasn't ray gordon was it.
YES! How do you know him.... then she starts thinking I am gordon, because
apparently he'd used several screen names to contact her after she tried
blocking him.
Once I explained how I knew of Gordo... she told me all about their
interaction, and it was the same story we've heard about gordo over and over
again.
So I dropped that little active military comment about her, not whoever Mrs.
Marcos is.
But apparently gordo was harassing so many women in so many ways, he wasn't
sure who the fuck I was referring to.
But that sure didn't stop him from making an assumption then swearing under
penalty of perjury it was factual.
But it gets worse for poor gordo....
"107. In April 2007, at the direction of Defendant Mystery, Ross Jeffries
and Mr.
Trunk directed a third party, "Wintermute" (a former UPenn student who had
previously
threatened Plaintiff in 2001) to mail a letter from Illinois (where
Wintermute was) to Plaintiff's
mother, threatening her with potential legal consequences if she continued
to allow Plaintiff to
live with her, and provided her internet access."
Directed? Gordo is claiming that Ross, Mystery, and I collectivly
instructed Wintermute to send that letter.... LOL!!!!
And why'd you cut out your 9-11-01 comments from the letter, gordo?
"109. At the time this directly threatening letter (legal consequences) was
mailed to Plaintiff's mother,"
Um, gordo, how many "directly threatening letter (legal consequences)" have
you send to my father, AFTER having been instructed to limit any
communication to proper legal channels?
"110. The reference to "when she passes on" regarding his mother, led
Plaintiff to post
a message to ASF shortly thereafter stating that his mother had been
harassed by an offline letter
that contained what could easily have been construed as a death threat."
Again, by whom? The "passes on" comment falls far short of even your own
publicly stated standard for what you believe constitutes a threat.
"<-----------Be specific as to which threats. USENET is archived. Go
ahead,
try to find a threat, please. According to the FBI, a threat has to be a
specific statement of intent to commit a specific harm against a specific
individual. WORDING IS VERY IMPORTANT. "
So not only are you knowingly misrepresenting facts, but doing so having
previously publicly demonstrated that you're aware of the standard for what
constitutes a threat. You can't feign ignorance on this one gordo....
" In response to this allegation, Mr. Trunk posted a message that stated
that he had seen the letter sent to Plaintiff's
mother, and then described its contents."
That would be this post here....
__________________________________________________________
From: "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam>
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: So I've seen the "Death Threat" now...
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:11:54 -0700
And I understand why gordo won't post it.... because there's no death threat
at all.
In fact there's nothing in the letter even close to an implication of a
threat... other than the threats ray has made that are quoted in the letter
for his mother to see. However those are clearly marked as quotes from
gordo, not statements being made in the letter by the author. The only
statement in the letter even mentioning death is a statement that gordo's
mom should consider what gordo will do for support after she's gone, and no
longer around to care for him. If gordo took this letter to the police and
said it was a death threat, they'd laugh him out of the station. So it is
no wonder he has to come to ASF to scream and cry and make threats.
Again it is clear that gordo is a desperate liar, trying to intimidate
people and threaten people to keep them from informing his mother about his
actions, and the liability in to which he is placing her.
And gordo.... what are you going to do for support when your mother is no
longer around to take care of you?
________________________________________________________
Gordo apparently forgot to read the subject line.... "Subject: So I've seen
the "Death Threat" now..."
Gordo claims he's mailed a death threat... many posters say prove it, post
quotes, or scan it... myself included.
Gordo refuses to be specific about what he claims was a death threat.
Then several of the folks who were asking for Gordo to quote this supposed
threat, get e-mails containing an alleged copy of this letter, then post
about it on ASF. Myself included.... which is why I clearly stated, that I
could comment on the content, NOW that I'd seen it.
Yet somehow to gordo this is proof I wrote it?
" Another individual working in concert with Mr. Trunk,
John J. Tashjian, Jr. of Massachusetts (another paid-poster/shill), then
posted the entire contents
of the letter. Plaintiff had never revealed the contents of the letter to
anyone.
111. Plaintiff avers, upon information and belief, that Defendant Mystery
and Ross
Jeffries authorized the letter, Mr. Trunk composed it, and Wintermute mailed
it, at Mr. Trunk's
direction."
What ifnormation gordo? Your entire pleading is assumptive and not only
unsupported by the facts but directly contradicted by the facts.
"120. Mr. Trunk (OdiousX) has received pecuniary compensation from
Defendants
Mystery/VAC in the form of access to their "inner circle" and waiver of any
fees for materials or
coaching, plus other unspecified compensation which will be shown at trial.
Plaintiff therefore
alleges a respondeat-superior relationship between Defendants Odious and
Mystery."
LOL!!!!!
What gordo doesn't seem to grasp in his little wet dream is that there is no
connection to discover... the "plus other unspecified compensation which
will be shown at trial." he is so sure he can uncover with discovery, isn't
there.
Odious
"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:p9CdnbWppuwAtArV...@pghconnect.com...
>
>> Shouldn't you have proof-read the thing?
>>
>> "titled the balance" my ass
>
> Spellchecker missed it.
>
Apparently so did the amazing 100 wpm error free super secretary...
Odious
"Vance" <Vance...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d196707a-49c2-4362...@a2g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 4, 9:08 am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
<r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
> > Shouldn't you have proof-read the thing?
>
>
None... what they said was that his claims were so weak, his writing didn't
make a difference. Gordo just selectively quoted the statement, then lied
and claimed it was praise.
>> 4 The District Court did not abuse its discretion in denying Parker's
>> requests for additional discovery, see, e.g., Brumfield v. Sanders, 232
>> F.3d 376, 380 (3d Cir. 2000), appointment of counsel was unwarranted
>> given Parker's abilities as a writer and presenter of arguments and the
>> relative weakness of his claims, see Darden v. Illinois Bell Telephone
>> Co., 797 F.2d 497, 500-03 (7th Cir. 1986), and Parker established no
>> legal entitlement to be paid out of the Public Interest Civil Litigation
>> Fund.
Odious
"Thurdust" <thur...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0c068e45-7e6a-43d3...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 4, 2:25 pm, I crossposted to AUK:
> Gordon Roy Parker, disguised as Ray Gordon, wrote in a 10 line article
> with a 22 line sig:
>
> > Read the actual filing here:
>
> >http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
>Say, Gordon, wasn't there a bit in that letter that contained your
>9/11 rants? Why did you feel the need to remove that portion of the
>letter in your latest kooksoot?
>
Isn't that evidence tampering? Or would that be perjury?
>And why do you think that Mr. Trunk wrote the letter, and then had
>Wintermute mail it to your mother? If Mr. Trunk wrote said letter, why
>wouldn't he mail it?
Apparently gordo isn't too clear on the word NOW or what it means... either
that or he is again intentionally lying to the courts about the content of
what was posted.
>And why do you think that JJTj is working for
>Mystery, Ross Jeffries and/or Mr. Trunk?
That's what I'd like to know.... because according to gordo i can get free
seminars adn training from Mystery, which is news to me.
>Also, you think you're entitled to $30,000,000.00 (THAT'S THIRTY
>FUCKING MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS!) because some people made fun of you
>on Usenet? And that one (or more) of these people sent your mother a
>letter?
No, don't you get it, Gordo believes that Mystery's fame and success belongs
to him.
The whole complaint boils down to this assumption by gordo, that he should
be rich and famous and successful, and the only reason he isn't is some vast
conspiracy to steal his work and suppress his success.
I like how he asks for 30 million.... and the cost of a new suit.
LOL!!!
Odious
"JJTj" <boring@bite_me.con> wrote in message
news:n52f945pgf19q5m9b...@4ax.com...
>
>>And why do you think that Mr. Trunk wrote the letter, and then had
>>Wintermute mail it to your mother? If Mr. Trunk wrote said letter, why
>>wouldn't he mail it? And why do you think that JJTj is working for
>>Mystery, Ross Jeffries and/or Mr. Trunk? Also, tell us about the
>>second, similar letter that contained the note saying that it was
>>being sent to your neighbors.
>
> I didn't bother to read grp-ie's crap, till I read this post.
>
> Parker, you better be able to *PROVE* I am a paid shill, that
> I work for this 'Mr. Trunk'. Since you can't, as I am not
> paid by anyone, and don't even know who 'Mr. Trunk' is, should
> I have to get involved in any of this, be prepared for counter suit.
>
I'm Mr. Trunk.... apparently according to gordo, you work for me or I work
for you.... or we both work for Ross who works for Mystery.... or Mystery
works for Ross and we're just subcontractors.
I'm not even sure Gordo has a single coherent thread stitching the pieces of
this fantasy together, let alone evidence to support his delusional claims.
He really seems to think he'll be granted discovery and uncover some vast
conspiracy based on nothing but his insistence there's a vast conspiracy.
Alex
<Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote:
> What gordo doesn't seem to grasp in his little wet dream is that there is no
> connection to discover... the "plus other unspecified compensation which
> will be shown at trial." he is so sure he can uncover with discovery, isn't
> there.
Gordon's playbook has become embarrassingly obvious.
1. Act like an ass on many usenet groups.
2. Accuse those who tell you you're being an ass of conspiracy
3. File k00ks00ts alleging all kinds of malfeasance, claiming you'll get
unlimited discovery to "prove" the allegations.
4. Bluster about how the court system will punish your enemies
5. Get dismissed for lack of coherence
6. Call it a rainout
7. Repeat
If it weren't so pathetic, I might actually mention how what fr00t l00p
really wants is information (like names and addresses) to stalk and harass
his critics with.
Plus, he's hoping someone else will throw a few bucks at him to go away.
It's way past time for this show to close.
My attorney is amazed he hasn't been committed yet (never mind sanctioned).
John C. Randolph
> Isn't that evidence tampering? Or would that be perjury?
I think that if he wants to introduce a document into evidence, he
doesn't get to edit it to try to make himself look better.
Not that this will ever get to trial, but still.
-jcr
Krus T. Olfard
news:LMPlk.8484$Bt6....@newsfe04.iad:
The problem with claiming to be a 100 wpm error-free super secretary is
that you are just begging people to point out every typo you make.
That is the kind of logic that is totally lost of gordy roy parker.
Frisco Del Rosario
"Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote:
> I'm not even sure Gordo has a single coherent thread stitching the pieces of
> this fantasy together, let alone evidence to support his delusional claims.
>
> He really seems to think he'll be granted discovery and uncover some vast
> conspiracy based on nothing but his insistence there's a vast conspiracy.
SHH. Gordon Roy's getting close enough to the truth as it is. So cool
it, Brother Odious.
::secret handshake::
Dave U. Random
Alex <akau...@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>
> On 8/4/08 11:25 PM, in article 1MPlk.8483$Bt6....@newsfe04.iad, "Odious"
> <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote:
>
> > What gordo doesn't seem to grasp in his little wet dream is that there is no
> > connection to discover... the "plus other unspecified compensation which
> > will be shown at trial." he is so sure he can uncover with discovery, isn't
> > there.
>
> Gordon's playbook has become embarrassingly obvious.
>
> 1. Act like an ass on many usenet groups.
> 2. Accuse those who tell you you're being an ass of conspiracy
> 3. File k00ks00ts alleging all kinds of malfeasance, claiming you'll get
> unlimited discovery to "prove" the allegations.
> 4. Bluster about how the court system will punish your enemies
> 5. Get dismissed for lack of coherence
> 6. Call it a rainout
> 7. Repeat
He also deliberately baits people, constantly. And the moment anyone
takes his bait, he leaps into victim mode and plays it up to no end.
JJTj
>>>And why do you think that Mr. Trunk wrote the letter, and then had
>>>Wintermute mail it to your mother? If Mr. Trunk wrote said letter, why
>>>wouldn't he mail it? And why do you think that JJTj is working for
>>>Mystery, Ross Jeffries and/or Mr. Trunk? Also, tell us about the
>>>second, similar letter that contained the note saying that it was
>>>being sent to your neighbors.
>> I didn't bother to read grp-ie's crap, till I read this post.
>> Parker, you better be able to *PROVE* I am a paid shill, that
>> I work for this 'Mr. Trunk'. Since you can't, as I am not
>> paid by anyone, and don't even know who 'Mr. Trunk' is, should
>> I have to get involved in any of this, be prepared for counter suit.
>I'm Mr. Trunk.... apparently according to gordo, you work for me or I work
>for you.... or we both work for Ross who works for Mystery.... or Mystery
>works for Ross and we're just subcontractors.
Oh, I did not know that. If what grp-ie says is true, either you own me
money, I owe you money, 'Mystery' n Ross owe us both money, regardless,
checks are long long overdue no matter who owes what. I WANT MY $$$$$$ !!
>I'm not even sure Gordo has a single coherent thread stitching the pieces of
>this fantasy together, let alone evidence to support his delusional claims.
You expected anything else?
>He really seems to think he'll be granted discovery and uncover some vast
>conspiracy based on nothing but his insistence there's a vast conspiracy.
...which hasn't been paid in years..
In fact, we should pay grp-ie for supplying us all with a good laugh.
JJTj
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
discussion I post to, so this is no shock.
It would certainly be interesting, though it'd be up to the court to decide
anything relating to it. \
--
An Old Friend
When it becomes clear to the court that Mr. Parker misrepresented the
evidence, it may be disallowed for that very reason.
That is, if the courts decide to entertain this particular lawsuit.
Thom E. Geiger
\"pivot\"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
Usually, for the most part, amici curiae are offered by individuals
who are not mentioned in the complaint, but by experts, witnesses,
people who have knowledge or information that might affect the outcome
of the case and/or the judge's decision. In my case, I have been
mentioned and lied about in every LTSC kooksoot complaint Gordon Roy
Parker has filed in PAED and Delaware.
Now, given that I have knowledge and information about the veracity
of charges and accusations made against me in those complaints,
including proof of their false nature (which is not subject to
interpretation, but is clear and convincing on its face), I will at
least make the effort. If nothing else, it will be a part of the
learning process of dealing with serial frivolous litigants such as
gorgon.
Oh, and there's still the matter of the unpaid court mandated costs
from CA3 that porker has steadfastly refused to abide by. We may
finally get to see which of us the courts will agree with about the
costs.
So, where's my money, porker, you child obsessed pervert?
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
Taz'sDaddy
> "JJTj" <boring@bite_me.con> wrote in message
>
> news:n52f945pgf19q5m9b...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> >>And why do you think that Mr. Trunk wrote the letter, and then had
> >>Wintermute mail it to your mother? If Mr. Trunk wrote said letter, why
> >>wouldn't he mail it? And why do you think that JJTj is working for
> >>Mystery, Ross Jeffries and/or Mr. Trunk? Also, tell us about the
> >>second, similar letter that contained the note saying that it was
> >>being sent to your neighbors.
>
> > I didn't bother to read grp-ie's crap, till I read this post.
>
> > Parker, you better be able to *PROVE* I am a paid shill, that
than his other suits.
But here is the funniest thing: for this huge "mafia" to be a such a
powerful conspiracy, why doesn't it include David DeAngelo?
He's pulling down 20 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR; that dwarfs all of us
"mafia" chiefs by orders of magnitude COMBINED.
Uh...uh....uh.....
Isn't that like suing the Mob, but ignoring Al Capone?
Hmmmmm....
RJ
P.S. I read in the complaint that Ray's Mom died of cancer in 2007,
for which I can only sincerely say, (and I'm sure genuine compassion
will actually only provoke Ray): I'm sorry you had to witness that,
Ray.
I lost my Mom to liver cancer in 2007 and my Dad died of congestive
heart failure in June. Losing a parent is hard-damned hard. To watch
them suffer is something I would not wish on anyone-Ray, included.
Genuine condolences on the loss of your mother, Gordo. That kind of
thing goes beyond rivalries and battles and into the realm of seeing
everyone as human.
Alex
1bcc0821-4885-4831...@p31g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
"Taz'sDaddy" <sandw...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> Genuine condolences on the loss of your mother, Gordo. That kind of
> thing goes beyond rivalries and battles and into the realm of seeing
> everyone as human.
And if Parker were able to see others as human, the last decade would have
been very different for several people.
Odious
"Taz'sDaddy" <sandw...@ca.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1bcc0821-4885-4831...@p31g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 4, 8:43 pm, "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote:
> "JJTj" <boring@bite_me.con> wrote in message
>
> news:n52f945pgf19q5m9b...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> >>And why do you think that Mr. Trunk wrote the letter, and then had
> >>Wintermute mail it to your mother? If Mr. Trunk wrote said letter, why
> >>wouldn't he mail it? And why do you think that JJTj is working for
> >>Mystery, Ross Jeffries and/or Mr. Trunk? Also, tell us about the
> >>second, similar letter that contained the note saying that it was
> >>being sent to your neighbors.
>
> > I didn't bother to read grp-ie's crap, till I read this post.
>
> > Parker, you better be able to *PROVE* I am a paid shill, that
>I read the damn thing. It is even more erratic and incomprehensible
>than his other suits.
>
His deterioration since his mother's passing has been growing more and more
pronounced.
>But here is the funniest thing: for this huge "mafia" to be a such a
>powerful conspiracy, why doesn't it include David DeAngelo?
Because mystery became what ray believed he would become... Gordo really
believes that Mystery's success belongs to him... and that the only reason
he's not the guy with a TV show, is that some vast conspiracy took it from
him.
Odious
"Alex" <akau...@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote in message
news:C4BFC9F3.91EC%akau...@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com...
Ross is certainly more magnanimous with gordo than I would be, given what
Gordo has said about Ross' situation.
Thom E. Geiger
<sandw...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>On Aug 4, 8:43 pm, "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote:
>> "JJTj" <boring@bite_me.con> wrote in message
>>
>> news:n52f945pgf19q5m9b...@4ax.com...
>>
>P.S. I read in the complaint that Ray's Mom died of cancer in 2007,
>for which I can only sincerely say, (and I'm sure genuine compassion
>will actually only provoke Ray): I'm sorry you had to witness that,
>Ray.
>
>I lost my Mom to liver cancer in 2007 and my Dad died of congestive
>heart failure in June. Losing a parent is hard-damned hard. To watch
>them suffer is something I would not wish on anyone-Ray, included.
>
>Genuine condolences on the loss of your mother, Gordo. That kind of
>thing goes beyond rivalries and battles and into the realm of seeing
>everyone as human.
My feelings of compassion are limited to Penny Parker, deceased or
not, and not with her deviant offspring. Gordon Roy Parker never once
exhibited any human compassion for his own mother and went so far as
to blame her for his own actions and anti-social behavior.
Lest we forget, parker has also never exhibited any compassion of any
type, to any degree whatsoever, for mothers whose children had died at
the WTC, the parents of children who died by suicide and who can
forget his famous punch line of "do a Grivich on the way to the
hospital".
Parker filed suit against me when I was having surgery for cancer at a
regional cancer center and when I had a friend bring the papers to the
hospital for me to sign, requesting a delay for medical reasons, he
fought it. In spite of his acclaimed psychic prowess and skill as a
caster of spells, I lived anyway (almost didn't) and, as the saying
goes, at that time I was a little inactive, but now I'm back home. I'm
very happy and very healthy and I plan to do as much as is humanly
possible to ensure that Gordon Roy Parker will live out his days on
this Earth seeing his own words and deeds follow him everywhere he
shows his face.
Yes, I do feel sympathy for Penny Parker, for everything life put her
through, for everything the worthless asshole of a son put her
through, but I do NOT feel sorry for Gordon Roy Parker, In fact, I've
had my own psychic enlightenment and I now know I was spared for one
purpose and that is to make Gordon Roy Parker's life as miserable as
possible. In some small way, poetic justice and karma for all he put
his mother through.
Thom E. Geiger
wrote:
>His deterioration since his mother's passing has been growing more and more
>pronounced.
Like I posted before, Gordon Roy Parker was, if not the most, one of
the most horrible things to ever happen to Penny Parker. He didn't
give a flying shit about his own mother, even to the point of using
her to blame for his own juvenile rantings. In parker's world, its all
about him, even when it came to his own mother. To GRP, Penny Parker
was just like rest of the human race, we're all just bit players in
gordy's play. His mother didn't die, she just left the stage and his
psychopathic show must go on.
Krus T. Olfard
news:5tqk94h9qct4l80hv...@4ax.com:
>>Genuine condolences on the loss of your mother, Gordo. That kind of
>>thing goes beyond rivalries and battles and into the realm of seeing
>>everyone as human.
>
> My feelings of compassion are limited to Penny Parker, deceased or
> not, and not with her deviant offspring. Gordon Roy Parker never once
> exhibited any human compassion for his own mother and went so far as
> to blame her for his own actions and anti-social behavior.
>
Just goes to show that RJ is the real man of the two.
Taz'sDaddy
>
> Because mystery became what ray believed he would become... Gordo really
> believes that Mystery's success belongs to him... and that the only reason
> he's not the guy with a TV show, is that some vast conspiracy took it from
> him.
Or because DeAngelo never posts here and therefore is not perceived
as someone who is challenging Gordo.
In any case, I'm back to being productive and focused. You all should
be too. I don't see how anyone can have a productive, happy life and
spend so much time on Usenet.
You'd be better off and more useful to volunteer at a soup kitchen or
a cat rescue group than waste time here.
Bye all....
Meklar
> On 4-Aug-2008, "Ray Gordon, Court Fool" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
>
> > Read the actual filing here:
>
> >http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
>
> > federal court.
>
> > Claims include Lanham Act, Antitrust violations, and Fair Housing Act
> > violations.
>
> You really should have read thishttp://www.aboutfalseadvertising.com/index1_files/False%20Advertising...
> prior to filing this suit. Where is your market study showing the Court how
> much money you had before Viacom came into your life, vs how much money you
> make now? No study? You can't prove damages, case dismissed.
>
> Filing against Mystery again? Has he been to Philly and subjected himself
> to Pa law? If not, you don't have personal jurisdiction over him, Case
> Dismissed or even worse for you, Moved to California, where they have laws
> to powder your behind for filing meritless lawsuits.
>
> All those people you just libeled in your pleading can sue you, I think some
> of them will. RJ for one has to be tired of you, and he's got a record of
> lawsuits against those who defame him which you certainly did. You also
> just gave Thom Geiger a reason to sue you, and the list goes on.
>
> Probably the stupidest of all your lawsuits. 0-22 coming up
>
I've tried reading his entire pleading but can't get past some glaring
issues that crop up almost from the beginning.
Throughout the pleading Gordon refers to one of the defendants, Erik
von Markovik, as Mystery. Yet unlike Viacom Internation, Inc. or
Venusian Arts Corporation, which he properly indicates a shorthand
notation ("Viacom" or "VH-1" for the former and "VAC" for the latter),
he does not use the same type of inference for von Markovik. Yet he
consistently refers to him as Mystery. In all of the court pleadings
and briefings that I have read, individuals are referred to by either
their full name or by their last name after the first reference to
them is made in the document, not by nicknames, aliases or AKA's.
Gordon's continued reference to von Markovik as Mystery seems very out
of place and, unlike those of us who visit ASF, is probably going to
be a cause of confusion for someone unfamiliar with the history.
In Paragraphs 2, 3 and 4, Gordon names the defendants and states that
they "can be served at the address listed for it in the caption."
Isn't it the job of the Plaintiff, in this case Gordon Roy Parker of
4247 Locust Street, #119, Philadelphia, PA 19104, to serve the
defendants? Telling the court where they can be served isn't really
relevant since it's his job to do so.
Ignoring the rest of the first 16 paragraphs, since while amusing they
aren't worth going into detail about. I found paragraphs 17 through 28
to be typical Gordon Roy Parker; very verbose without any actual proof
to support them.
P 17. I'm sure Gordon has actual proof that "Several “gurus,”
including Defendant Mystery, had been approached for years by various
producers, yet had turned them down so as not to “betray” their
internet fan and revenue base." You know, actual signed affidavits
saying this was the case. Otherwise this is just hearsay. The same
applies to the second part of this section regarding von Markovik's
reason for agreeing to the show.
P 18. Seems to be supposition and assumption as to why Viacom would
invest money in the show. Here's a channel that has shows like "Rock
of Love" and "The Two Corey's" and Gordon's stating they are
desperate? They aren't desperate, they just don't have any real taste
and are catering to their market.
P 19. Proof in the form of signed, sworn affidavits from the "rank-and-
file “seduction community” members" to back up this claim?
BTW, if paragraphs 21 to 28 are intended to outline specifics to the
charges in Paragraph 20 then they really should be sub-paragraphs,
just to avoid confusion.
P 21. Since when is signing two releases relevant? Just because you,
Gordon Roy Parker, state that the club outlined the compensation for
the people appearing on the show, just because someone is compensated
for an appearance doesn't make them a paid actor. It be something as
simple as having their drinks covered. Or it could have said that they
weren't going to be compensated by the club at all.
But in any event, you of course have certified copies of those
releases to back up your statements? Remember, saying that it was
posted on the VH-1 forum is not conclusive proof.
And of course Gordon, you have a signed, sworn statement from the
model who went public? Otherwise it's all hearsay. Also, in order for
someone to be considered an actor they need to be members of the SAG.
Otherwise they or the show they are appearing on can be fined.
Technically anyone who's not a member of SAG is not, officially, an
actor.
P 22. And there is proof that "Evan" worked for a seduction advice
website? Would that include any actual proof that "Evan" was involved
in the seduction advice aspect and wasn't, for example, a
receptionist, IT support or some other position that wasn't directly
involved with the content? And that this person is the Ex-girlfriend
of an Ex-roommate and Ex-partner of von Markovik's is relevant how?
And there is actual proof, not just supposition and hearsay?
P 23. There are thousands of "professionally-trained actors" out in
the world, most of them in LA or NYC. That doesn't mean they aren't
aspiring, it just means that they have the training. Someone could
easily be an aspiring actor even with training because it means they
haven't been successful yet.
P 24. And in which "reality" is the person in question considered a
club DJ? Since a lot of DJ's have day jobs, they have to in order to
support themselves, are you saying it's not possible for him to be a
"cameraman" or "video game programmer"? If I worked for the local
cable access channel, which I do part time, I could be considered a
cameraman and if I liked to program video games, which I do, I could
also be a "video game programmer." The fact that neither of those are
my chosen profession doesn't mean I couldn't be labeled as such,
especially since they sound cooler than what I really do. Oh, and of
course you have actual proof of this and not just posts from a web
site or forum, even though those are a bastion of truth we know.
P 25. Like P 24, you are saying a model can't also be a photographer.
Yeah, sucks to live in a world where a person can only have one job.
So, which are you Gordon, a seduction guru, sports bettor/handicapper,
gymnastics coach, professional chess player? Based on your own logic,
pick the one that should be used to describe you since obviously you
can't be considered to have more than one profession.
P 26. The fact that someone has "major Hollywood studios" for clients
as a graphic designer doesn't mean that he has to have "far greater
interpersonal skills than that of the “socially awkward” persona
presented at the beginning of the show." You are assuming that and
just making as ass out of yourself again. Does he own the design
studio? Does he interact with the clients? Or does he just do the
graphic design work and leave the other stuff to other people?
Even if he interacts well in a business environment who's to say he
can do the same in a social environment? I know a number of people who
can interact easily with people at work but who are not comfortable at
all at a social gathering. One does not necessarily indicate the
other. But of course you have proof of this, such as signed statements
and the like?
P 27. Once again, proof please. You know the laws relating to all
strip clubs in the United States of America (that's how you should
refer to the country since technically we're not America, we're the
USA), do you? Unless specific conditions are met it's not
prostitution, and those vary from state to state and county to county.
Just leaving her place of employment is not proof of this. If she
wanted to leave early and her employer didn't have a problem with that
she could leave whenever she wanted to with whoever. Unless you can
prove that "[N]o strip club in America allows dancers to walk out with
customers during their shift..." with absolute proof this one is going
to be hard to get a court to accept.
P 28. Of course you have proof, otherwise this could be construed as
libel. You are claiming that von Markovik defrauds his customers via
deception, which impugns his name, reputation and business. If you
can't provide proof then you could easily face a counter suit. Unlike
you I'm sure von Markovik could actually prevail in suit which would
not be good for you.
This just covers the first 28 paragraphs on 7 pages. I haven't been
able to weed my way through the remaining 116 paragraphs on the next
27 pages. If I do get through them I might post my comments here,
since I'm curious what other people think of Gordon Roy Parker's
little suit.
I do feel sorry for the judge who has to review this since he's going
to have to respond to everything that's in here. I'd send him a fruit
basket just to give him the extra energy he's going to need to do
that, but I wouldn't want to be seen as attempting to influence the
judge. :)
Meklar
Not a lawyer, but then again neither if Gordon Roy Parker, the
Plaintiff in this suit.
Paul Robinson
value" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
> Read the actual filing here:
>
> http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
>
> The case number is 08-cv-3630 in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
> federal court.
>
> Claims include Lanham Act, Antitrust violations, and Fair Housing Act
> violations.
I'm not a lawyer, but I personally would move to dismiss - and someone
here will know the exact section of the FRCP - in that your lawsuit
fails to state a claim to which the court can grant relief.
"I have on occasion wanted to express an opinion that you would not be
qualified to shovel shit in a manure factory but I have to take that
back as you do an excellent job of shoveling shit here every day." -
Paul Robinson to Ray Gordon, May 27, 2003, at
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.legal/browse_thread/thread/b92c3c82ed1b613/5bdcf7e068abc180
You can't pro-se file a class action which I think if you were arguing
that they have damaged the public by some falsity in their
programming, even if you had grounds to file against them, would, I
think require a class action, not a personal lawsuit. And I don't
think you represent any sort of class to which you have grounds to
sue.
Also I think the claim that the court in Pennsylvania having
jurisdiction over them is bogus based on *International Shoe*
(International Shoe Co. v. Washington 326 U.S. 310 (1945)), and I
think it also lacks jurisdiction under Quill Corp. v. North Dakota,
504 U.S. 298 (1992). Merely selling by mail or website to someone in
a state is not sufficient to make the party who operates that website
or is selling by mail subject to the jurisdiction of that state. There
has to be minimum contacts: an agent or office there.
Further, I don't see how anything they've done has had an effect on
you, personally. Your life would have exactly zero change as a result
of the broadcast of their program. I would also argue you lack
standing to sue as you were not damaged by anything they did and will
not suffer damages as a result of their actions, presuming for the
sake of argument that they did anything which is in violation of law.
As for your claims of plagiarism I think you're claiming copyright
protection on your ideas, not on the expression of them, and even if
they did use your ideas - which I would be really surprised if it was
the case that you thought up everything first - it's still not
actionable because ideas are not protected, only the expression, for
copyright purposes. If you had a patent on some method that might be
another matter, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office has been
relatively lax in granting overbroad patents that should never have
been allowed.
At best from what I read in your lawsuit - to the extent I read it, I
think I quit after 15 or 20 pages. there may be grounds for the
Federal Trade Commission to act if you're claiming the program was
fraudulent or staged but even that's probably a stretch as there are
First Amendment issues dealing with creation of entertainment
programs. Now, if you're claiming violation of the laws against
running rigged game shows that's an entirely different matter which
the FTC, FCC, DOJ or some other agency might have grounds to prosecute
or perhaps file a civil claim, but again, that would be the government
acting over a violation of law, and you still would not have standing
to intervene.
You're lucky you're a pro-se, if some lawyer had filed this piece of
crap you're foisting on the courts, (s)he'd be hit with sanctions for
filing a lawsuit that (1) they knew or should have known was baseless
and that (2) they clearly must have known that the court lacks
jurisdiction to handle. If anything, this should have been filed in
one of the jurisdictions where at least one of the parties is a
resident. Filing it in New York or even California would have been
far better than in Pennsylvania, although it's still a groundless
lawsuit to begin with. There is definitely no grounds to file in PA
and even you should know that.
Hell, I'd argue for sanctions anyway then let you try to argue that
they're not warranted. Especially in view of your constant practice
of filing groundless lawsuits.
In short, your attempt to hitch onto a gravy train is going to get
derailed very soon. "As usual, the Ray Gordon Litigation Train derails
again in a spectacular crash, or it will once Google gets the same
decision in psychopath Gordon Roy Parker's attempt to extort money
from them." - Paul Robinson, January 28, 2006 at
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.seduction.fast/browse_thread/thread/4196f61a344f76c4
----
Paul Robinson <pa...@paul-robinson.us> "Above all else... We shall go
on..."
_"And continue!"_
"The lessons of history teach us - if they teach us anything - that
nobody learns the lessons that history teaches us."
Taz'sDaddy
> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:27:58 -0700 (PDT), "Taz'sDaddy"
>
>
>
> <sandwor...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 4, 8:43 pm, "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote:
> >> "JJTj" <boring@bite_me.con> wrote in message
>
> >>news:n52f945pgf19q5m9b...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> not, and not with her deviant offspring. Gordon Roy Parker never once
> exhibited any human compassion for his own mother and went so far as
> to blame her for his own actions and anti-social behavior.
> Lest we forget, parker has also never exhibited any compassion of any
> type, to any degree whatsoever, for mothers whose children had died at
> the WTC, the parents of children who died by suicide and who can
> forget his famous punch line of "do a Grivich on the way to the
> hospital".
Don't let the worst of us dictate where YOU go with your
attitude. Because someone else is horrible, ugly and vicious, do you
want to let their coloring(metaphorically only) determine yours?
Yes, abhor the behavior and by all means protect and stop it.
But personally hating the other EMOTIONALLY BONDS YOU TO THEM AS
STRONGLY AS BEING IN LOVE WITH THEM.
Ahab and the whale...Ahab and the whale.
Why let someone take a moment of your precious life focus now that
you have beaten cancer? You have a new lease; savor every moment on
enjoying every breath and working on your own happiness and
prosperity.
Let garbage men take out the garbage.
>
> Parker filed suit against me when I was having surgery for cancer at a
> regional cancer center and when I had a friend bring the papers to the
> hospital for me to sign, requesting a delay for medical reasons, he
> fought it. In spite of his acclaimed psychic prowess and skill as a
> caster of spells, I lived anyway (almost didn't) and, as the saying
> goes, at that time I was a little inactive, but now I'm back home. I'm
> very happy and very healthy and I plan to do as much as is humanly
> possible to ensure that Gordon Roy Parker will live out his days on
> this Earth seeing his own words and deeds follow him everywhere he
> shows his face.
Sick, twisted and vile on his part. Do you really want to come from
the same place and let a nutjob determine where YOU come from?
This all comes down to choice. Only you can make that choice. Parker
can't. Parker will NEVER see his own words and deeds as being
anything other than just, true and right. You may cause him pain, but
you will never get him to connect that pain with his having done
anything wrong. He's incapable of seeing himself in that way.
INCAPABLE.
So it will just be about you making yourself feel at cause by
inflicting, however justly, rather than being at effect by being
inflicted upon by Parker.
But it won't make you happier And it won't stop Parker. You'll
just feed him. The worst thing you can do to a narcissist is to ignore
them. Far better channel your anger chopping wood. Or go work in an
orphanage. Bring smiles and promote life. Leave Gordon to his own
darkness.
Peace...and get off Usenet, for good. You are like Batman to his
Joker. He is taking far too much of your time, energy and focus.
Peace all..
RJ
>
> Yes, I do feel sympathy for Penny Parker, for everything life put her
> through, for everything the worthless asshole of a son put her
> through, but I do NOT feel sorry for Gordon Roy Parker, In fact, I've
> had my own psychic enlightenment and I now know I was spared for one
> purpose and that is to make Gordon Roy Parker's life as miserable as
> possible. In some small way, poetic justice and karma for all he put
> his mother through.
>
> Thom E. Geiger, Domain Name Owner
> Ray-Gordon.com
> Ray-Gordon.net
> Newsloon.com
>
> Legal exhibit submitted by Gordon Roy Parker into the public record in PAED case #03-cv-6396http://www.HeavyData.net/exhibit-c-parker-v-LTSC-03-cv-6396-EDPA--ray...
Thom E. Geiger
<sandw...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> Let garbage men take out the garbage.
Yes, but I AM a garbage man and whether as a combat veteran, nightclub
bouncer, bail bond enforcement or compusec network administrator, I
have taken out the trash my whole life. It's what I do and who I am.
There is no emotional attachment at all and never has been in any of
my job fields.
When Parker first started his crap with me, I had just been diagnosed
and spent most of his kooksoots undergoing treatments and surgery, so
I never had the time, the energy or the attention to take care of
business like I would have liked to- yet, as sick as I was, I still
beat him. That is not the case now.
Now I am healthy and have sufficient time to dedicate to legally
dealing with the asshole. I have a gift for it, when it comes to
dealing with psychos, and Gordon Roy Parker is a flyweight compared to
the REAL ones I have dealt with. 45 minute backyard chases, running
down a two time knife carrying loser who skipped out on a $75K bond,
who'll do anything it takes to keep from going back to prison. Taking
Parker down is just another thing that needs doing. Nothing more,
nothing less.
Thom E. Geiger, Domain Name Owner
Ray-Gordon.com
Ray-Gordon.net
Newsloon.com
Legal exhibit submitted by Gordon Roy Parker into the public record in PAED case #03-cv-6396
http://www.HeavyData.net/exhibit-c-parker-v-LTSC-03-cv-6396-EDPA--rayFAQ.zip
Taz'sDaddy
> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:11:56 -0700 (PDT), "Taz'sDaddy"
>
> > Let garbage men take out the garbage.
>
> Yes, but I AM a garbage man and whether as a combat veteran, nightclub
> bouncer, bail bond enforcement or compusec network administrator, I
> have taken out the trash my whole life. It's what I do and who I am.
> There is no emotional attachment at all and never has been in any of
> my job fields.
> When Parker first started his crap with me, I had just been diagnosed
> and spent most of his kooksoots undergoing treatments and surgery, so
> I never had the time, the energy or the attention to take care of
> business like I would have liked to- yet, as sick as I was, I still
> beat him. That is not the case now.
>
> Now I am healthy and have sufficient time to dedicate to legally
> dealing with the asshole. I have a gift for it, when it comes to
> dealing with psychos, and Gordon Roy Parker is a flyweight compared to
> the REAL ones I have dealt with. 45 minute backyard chases, running
> down a two time knife carrying loser who skipped out on a $75K bond,
> who'll do anything it takes to keep from going back to prison. Taking
> Parker down is just another thing that needs doing. Nothing more,
> nothing less.
>
> Thom E. Geiger, Domain Name Owner
> Ray-Gordon.com
Very well. At least do it elegantly and with style.
RJ
93/93
> Ray-Gordon.net
> Newsloon.com
>
> Legal exhibit submitted by Gordon Roy Parker into the public record in PAED case #03-cv-6396http://www.HeavyData.net/exhibit-c-parker-v-LTSC-03-cv-6396-EDPA--ray...
Thom E. Geiger
<sandw...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>Very well. At least do it elegantly and with style.
>
>RJ
>93/93
I'd love to RJ, but I'm not the F-22 model- no high tech, not graceful
or quiet, definitely not stealthy. I'm more of the A-10 Warthog
version- slow, noisey as hell, the equivalent of flying visegrips- I'm
not elegant, but I can get the job done.
Thom E. Geiger, Domain Name Owner
Ray-Gordon.com
Ray-Gordon.net
Newsloon.com
Legal exhibit submitted by Gordon Roy Parker into the public record in PAED case #03-cv-6396
http://www.HeavyData.net/exhibit-c-parker-v-LTSC-03-cv-6396-EDPA--rayFAQ.zip
JJTj
>I'd love to RJ, but I'm not the F-22 model- no high tech, not graceful
>or quiet, definitely not stealthy. I'm more of the A-10 Warthog
>version- slow, noisey as hell, the equivalent of flying visegrips- I'm
>not elegant, but I can get the job done.
>
>Thom E. Geiger, Domain Name Owner
>Ray-Gordon.com
>Ray-Gordon.net
>Newsloon.com
The only time to kick somebody is when they are down..
The only place to kick them is below the belt..
Parker deserves nothing less...
JJTj
------ Gordon Roy Parker threatening children, the sick and elderly --------
>>Subject: Re: May Lissa's Mom DIE PAINFULLY ANDROT IN HELL****
>>x-no-archive: yes
>>Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:13:02 -0600
>>From: ray...@hotmail.com
>>Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
>>Newsgroups: alt.sports.gymnastics
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> ****Disclaimer: I was discriminated against on the basis of
>>gender today and told point-blank that this was the reason. Having been
>>taunted by the WHOREDENS and by Lissa over this, I consider it only fair
>>to return similar sentiments. When I get a full apology from Lissa, and
>>from Dave, and his website and RayFAQ go down, I will CONSIDER changing
>>my attitude.
>> Ray, first of all STOP CURSING, KIDS READ THIS TOO!! Dave, lol!
>>HA HAHA! dang! oh shit! maaaaaan...! lol! hmmmaaaa! Ray's gonna sue you!
>>looool!!!! [laughing] shit.... hire me as your lawyer. he he ha ha ha...
>>loooll
>> <----Stop Cursing? FUCK YOU. FUCK GYMNAST WHORES TOO. They
>>know DAMN well what goes on and what harmed me and they LAUGH at it.
>>May they all do a GOMEZ on vault and have the ambulance do a GRIVICH on
>>the way to the hospital if they are going to laugh at my career road
>>blocks, sexual road blocks that they CLAIM to disapprove of...except
>>when they need a job, so then it's okay to show a little ass, as long as
>>the boss doesn't try to touch that ass. FUCK THEM. They're moral
>>GARBAGE! They know it too; that's why they can't stand hearing it; if
>>it weren't true they wouldn't care. They're good for ONE THING and ONE
>>THING only, and they know that too. If they want me to be nice to them,
>>let them undo a few years of damage and apologize for THEIR attitudes.
>>They bring this shit on themselves with their arrogance. Spoiled BRATS.
>> You think my suing Dave and Dominique is a joke? Keep laughing.
>>Please. I'd love it if you did. You want to be Dave's lawyer? Go right
>>ahead. You punks think this is playtime; you're in for an awfully rude
>>shock. I gave fair warning. Dave(and Dominique through Dave) said "Go
>>for it." I will. I'll go for every last ounce of gold that resides in
>>both their scumbag pockets.
>> See, I was being a NICE GUY about this before. I decided not to
>>be NICE anymore. I get really FUCKING PISSED OFFwhen people mock my
>>pain, enough to where I start focusing my energy on THEIR pain. Lissa's
>>pain. The pain of watching her mother die the same death my secretarial
>>career died. Yes, that death. I know what it's like to watch something
>>you love die. Watching my father die right in front of my eyes at age
>>12 wasn't as painful as watching women get sexually harassed by their
>>bosses, but that was nothing compared to the pain of seeing women mock
>>the issue, like it were okay, like they couldn't have the courage to do
>>the right thing.
>> Lissa, watch your mom fade away and think of mycareer, and then
>>think of the fact that I can revive my career. Noone will be able to
>>revive your mom. No one. She's DYING, and she's DYING slowly. Does she
>>even remember your name anymore? I don't think so.....you think Dave's
>>such a nice guy? I don't. Hedoes that page for you, Missy, Dominique,
>>and all those wonderful girls who worship him. You think he's going to
>>get away with it? He's not. If you want to see God's punishment for your
>>treatment of me, watch it in your mom.
>> My last spell went to Jaycie's knees. She still competing?
>>Nope. The next one goes to Lissa's mom. Note her condition today and
>>see how she progresses from here. Don't mess with a psychic. After
>>this one is done I'll start REALLY wishing for some Gomez action on the
>>vault, and I'll start naming names and focusing ALL of my psychic energy
>>on it.
dman
<r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
> Read the actual filing here:
>
> http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
>
I almost fell asleep when I started to read that
Your call as to if the reason was
a) it is after 2am here
b) you are plain boring
> The case number is 08-cv-3630 in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
> federal court.
>
> Claims include Lanham Act, Antitrust violations, and Fair Housing Act
> violations.
>
> --
> Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
>
> Finding Your A-Game:http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
> Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy (FREE!)
> The book Neil Strauss and VH-1 STOLE The Pivot From
>
> Click HERE: for the ORIGINAL pivot chapter:http://www.cybersheet.com/pivot.pdf
>
> Here's my Myspace Page: And Pickup Blog (FREE advice)http://www.myspace.com/snodgrasspublishing
>
> Don't rely on overexposed, mass-marketed commercial seduction methods which
> no longer work. Learn the methods the gurus USE with the money they make
> from what they teach.
>
> Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS:http://www.dirtyscottsdale.com/?p=1187
>
> My lawsuit against Viacom, Mystery, and Venusian Arts Corp. over "The Pickup
> Arist" VH-1 show:http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
Dman, http://www.AKLair.com
Thurdust
Odious wrote:
> "Thurdust" <thur...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0c068e45-7e6a-43d3...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 4, 2:25 pm, I crossposted to AUK:
> > Gordon Roy Parker, disguised as Ray Gordon, wrote in a 10 line article
> > with a 22 line sig:
> >
> > > Read the actual filing here:
> >
> > >http://www.cybersheet.com/lawsuit-viacom.pdf
>
> >Say, Gordon, wasn't there a bit in that letter that contained your
> >9/11 rants? Why did you feel the need to remove that portion of the
> >letter in your latest kooksoot?
> >
>
> Isn't that evidence tampering? Or would that be perjury?
Upon further review, Gordon also excised the parts of the letter that
referred to Tabitha Hassel. I wonder why Gordon wouldn't want that
info to be submitted to a court?
For those who want to know more about Tabitha Hassel, check out
message <5321li$q...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> or
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.hypnosis/msg/19450f02ce03007c
>
> >And why do you think that Mr. Trunk wrote the letter, and then had
> >Wintermute mail it to your mother? If Mr. Trunk wrote said letter, why
> >wouldn't he mail it?
>
> Apparently gordo isn't too clear on the word NOW or what it means... either
> that or he is again intentionally lying to the courts about the content of
> what was posted.
>
> >And why do you think that JJTj is working for
> >Mystery, Ross Jeffries and/or Mr. Trunk?
>
> That's what I'd like to know.... because according to gordo i can get free
> seminars adn training from Mystery, which is news to me.
>
>
>
> >Also, you think you're entitled to $30,000,000.00 (THAT'S THIRTY
> >FUCKING MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS!) because some people made fun of you
> >on Usenet? And that one (or more) of these people sent your mother a
> >letter?
>
> No, don't you get it, Gordo believes that Mystery's fame and success belongs
> to him.
>
> The whole complaint boils down to this assumption by gordo, that he should
> be rich and famous and successful, and the only reason he isn't is some vast
> conspiracy to steal his work and suppress his success.
>
> I like how he asks for 30 million.... and the cost of a new suit.
I interpreted that as the cost of this latest k00ks00t, but maybe the
boy could use a shiny new suit to wear to court. Maybe we could start
some sort of fund to help him achieve this goal?
What kind of costs does a per se plaintiff incur?