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Vance Lear

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Mar 1, 2004, 8:47:47 PM3/1/04
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People have noticed that Ray likes to be a woman online. He has
expressed his reasons, but could there really be something more behind
it? Could there evidence that there is?

Yes.

Ray is proud that his hypnosis 'products' are developed through and
because of his personal experience with them - they are good because
Ray responds to them. They are, examined critically, an expression of
his fantasy about hypnosis, power and women and that means they say
something about him. From his website:

#
HELLEN I ($21.95) is 26:30 in length, and includes a deeper trance,
unawareness that you are hypnotized, arm levitation, LIGHT
FEMINIZATION, orgasm-on-cummand, and long-term conditioning (triggers
for reinduction). Hellen I was digitally recorded on a Sony MZ-B100
minidisc recorder. The sound quality is superior to PC microphones.
#

HELLEN II ($35.95) is 41:23 in length, and includes extended deep
trance, arm levitation, STRONGER FEMINIZATION, unawareness that you
are hypnotized, orgasm-on-cummand, and deeper conditioning/triggers.
Hellen II was recorded professionally in a studio and has excellent
sound quality.

Note the feminization in the ads above. I have capitalized it. Ray
has feminization fantasies; at one time, he had a feminization chat
room on Yahoo! Not surprisingly, it didn't go anywhere.

Women represent almost mystical power to Ray. He is in love with it
and fears it at the same time. It is not unusual to for someone in
this psychological double bind to run down the physical representation
of that power (referring to them as cunts, whores, etc.) and desiring
to take on their attributes to share in that power.

Vance Lear

HC

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Mar 1, 2004, 8:52:44 PM3/1/04
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From: seaml...@yahoo.com (Vance Lear)

Correction . . .

Vance Lear, Genius

Much better ;-)

As it pertains to Porker, you are most definitely a genius. You have him
pegged.

You are quickly replacing Norman Lear as my favorite Lear of all time. And
that's saying a lot considering the work of art All in the Family was.

LeModernCaveman

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Mar 1, 2004, 9:31:06 PM3/1/04
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Metrosexual!


HeeroYuy

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Mar 1, 2004, 10:02:28 PM3/1/04
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"LeModernCaveman" <lemoder...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Metrosexual!

I looked it up, and "metrosexual" is not found in any dictionary I
referenced... perhaps you can provide a definition to this odd word.

Bryen193

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Mar 1, 2004, 11:58:12 PM3/1/04
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"HeeroYuy" h@h.h:

>I looked it up, and "metrosexual" is not found in any dictionary I
>referenced... perhaps you can provide a definition to this odd word.

You won't find it because it's relatively new slang. It's "Metro" as in
"metropolitan", and it describes a sensitive, fashionable, sophisticated,
almost effeminate sort of heterosexual male whose style could be easily
confused with that of gay culture. Some women are wild about that archetype,
and some wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. The poster "metrosexual" is
former Manchester United player David Beckham.


"There is only one real antidote to the anguish engendered in humanity by its
awareness of inevitable death: erotic joy." Gilles Neret
++++ http://www.angelfire.com/80s/ashenthorn/index.html ++++

LeModernCaveman

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Mar 2, 2004, 12:00:51 AM3/2/04
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I sell feminization, but do not practice it.

Slight difference.


LeModernCaveman

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Mar 2, 2004, 12:00:30 AM3/2/04
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>>I looked it up, and "metrosexual" is not found in any dictionary I
>>referenced... perhaps you can provide a definition to this odd word.
>
>You won't find it because it's relatively new slang. It's "Metro" as in
>"metropolitan", and it describes a sensitive, fashionable, sophisticated,
>almost effeminate sort of heterosexual male whose style could be easily
>confused with that of gay culture. Some women are wild about that archetype,

Yep.

>and some wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.

Yep.

>The poster "metrosexual"
>is
>former Manchester United player David Beckham.

With honorable mention to Adrian Brody.

John C. Randolph

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Mar 2, 2004, 3:48:31 AM3/2/04
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Vance Lear wrote:
>
> People have noticed that Ray likes to be a woman online.

He's an attention junkie, and anyone pretending to be female in a chat
room will at least get *some* attention until they're figured out..

-jcr

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LeModernCaveman

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Mar 2, 2004, 8:11:17 AM3/2/04
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>> I sell feminization, but do not practice it.
>>
>> Slight difference.
>
>Ah, I understand. You are past practice and are now into performance. You're
>right. That's different!

I don't perform it either.


kwyn...@ne.net

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Mar 2, 2004, 9:11:30 AM3/2/04
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In article <20040301235812...@mb-m01.aol.com>, Bryen193 says...

>
>"HeeroYuy" h@h.h:
>
>>I looked it up, and "metrosexual" is not found in any dictionary I
>>referenced... perhaps you can provide a definition to this odd word.
>
>You won't find it because it's relatively new slang. It's "Metro" as in
>"metropolitan", and it describes a sensitive, fashionable, sophisticated,
>almost effeminate sort of heterosexual male whose style could be easily
>confused with that of gay culture. Some women are wild about that archetype,
>and some wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. The poster "metrosexual" is
>former Manchester United player David Beckham.

Southpark took on "metrosexuals" and it was wildly hilarious.

Kate

kwyn...@ne.net

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Mar 2, 2004, 9:13:07 AM3/2/04
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In article <20040302000051...@mb-m04.aol.com>, LeModernCaveman
says...

>
>I sell feminization, but do not practice it.
>
>Slight difference.

I'm not even going to try to quess what you mean by that.

K

>
>


JJT

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Mar 2, 2004, 12:21:59 PM3/2/04
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>In article <20040302000051...@mb-m04.aol.com>, LeModernCaveman
>says...
>>
>>I sell feminization, but do not practice it.

Wrong, oh pimp'er of 'helen'...

You once posted that you went online as a female
to fool some loser "..lawyer.." into hiring/screwing you..

Your actions, then, made you think of (again) killing yourself..

I'll look up the post, and repost it here sometime if anyone cares..

Sounds to me, IMHO, you not only 'practice it, but it RULES yer soul..

HA HA HA


JJT


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>>Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:58:08 -0400
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>>WARNING: If Oedipus, Krusty or Tusky respond to this message in any way,
>>I will return to ASF immediately. If they want me off that newsgroup
>>they can stay the hell out of my threads.
>>
>>Read up. I post this not for myself, because I don't care what people
>>think of me. I post this for my METHOD, because it's being destroyed by
>>attacks on its creator.
>>
>>I am going to clear the record on a few things here:
>>
>>1. I DID wish death on Michelle's daughter Cierra. I did so in an
>>attempt to snap her back to reality after she had used others' defamation
>>of me as leverage to get me to want her. Why did I "hurt" her? I DID
>>NOT TALK TO HER. That's correct: my crime with Michelle was not falling
>>back in love with her after she had fallen in love with me for four
>>months, IMing me constantly, E-mailing me constantly, BEGGING me to love
>>her the way I "loved" "Dominique" (these two are in quotes because I
>>neither loved her nor necessarily knew her).
>>
>>2. Wishing death on someone is not a crime. The words were spoken in
>>anger, after MONTHS of provocation

Vance Lear

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Mar 2, 2004, 9:56:44 PM3/2/04
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lemoder...@aol.com (LeModernCaveman) wrote in message news:<20040301213106...@mb-m04.aol.com>...

> Metrosexual!

I think you think you've slammed me. Is this where I should say
'Ouchy!'

Metrosexual, huh? My, my.

Let me repost Bryen193's observations on what a metrosexual is:

"You won't find it because it's relatively new slang. It's "Metro" as
in
"metropolitan", and it describes a sensitive, fashionable,
sophisticated,
almost effeminate sort of heterosexual male whose style could be
easily
confused with that of gay culture."

I take exception only to the effiminate and fashionable qualifications
in Bryen193's post. I am guilty, and proudly so of everything else,
and what is implied by the everything else. I am, as a person, what
you have to disparage since you can't even aspire to it.

Metrosexual? Possibly. Cultured, educated, sensitive to others,
appreciative of aesthetics, creative and a whole bunch of other stuff
not geared to 'bronk busting' ballsyness', yes. I also climb
mountains, have sailed to Hawaii and back single-handed twice, done
all but 175 miles of the Pacific Crest Trail, solo, at 28 days per
section, swam with whales in the Gulf of California, and talked to
Koko the Gorilla in La Honda, CA, have reached 7,000 feet in a
hang-glider from the ground off Fort Funston here in San Francisco.

I am up for artist at residence for 2005 at the Yerba Buena Center for
the Arts here, which really must make me less than a man in your eyes.
But then, again, who cares what the blind man sees? You run down
Aards poetry with ballless arrogance, but who cares what the deaf
hear?

Metrosexual? I can live with it. I would not be willing to give up
anything because some clown has decided on a label.

The Caveman

He can smirk,
behind his hiding hand
the rotten teeth,
fetid breath
and death.

The joke is beyond him.

Vance Lear


By the way Aard, I am not much for poetry, but not bad stuff, dude.

aardvark9084

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Mar 2, 2004, 10:29:37 PM3/2/04
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"Vance Lear" <seaml...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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thanks for the thumbs up on the poetry, vance. rock on, my brother!

i am so very grateful that none of live up (it's down, really) to the
measure of what *ray thinks* a man is.

you do more before 9a than ray has done his entire life.

it will be a cold day in hell indeed when any grubby, uncouth, racist,
paranoid, slant headed (did his mom fuck gumby?), hypocritical, lying, woman
hating, mental defect of a scumbag banging his cup against the curb begging
for a handout from productive human beings, gets to define what being a man
is.

ray is unfit to judge anyone on earth and he knows it.

aardvark


Ray Gordon

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Mar 4, 2004, 8:37:50 AM3/4/04
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It is the most efficient way to catch men in the act of sexual harassment
and employment discrimination.

When HUD does it, they call them "testers."

--
Everything you need to know about women. FREE!

http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
The Seduction Library

http://www.cybersheet.com/hotties.html
Why Hotties Choose Losers


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HC

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When YOU do it its called CROSS DRESSING you freak.

HeeroYuy

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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
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> It is the most efficient way to catch men in the act of sexual harassment
> and employment discrimination.
>
> When HUD does it, they call them "testers."

I believe that it is more commonly known as "entrapment" and is not a legal
way to catch criminals.

Ray Gordon

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Mar 4, 2004, 10:16:31 AM3/4/04
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It has been ruled a very legal way of catching discriminators.

You seem almost sympathetic to civil rights violators. How sad.

--
Everything you need to know about women. FREE!


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HC

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Mar 4, 2004, 10:56:39 AM3/4/04
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Ray also watches Regis & Kelly and Oprah.

He's a walking fem demographic.


kwyn...@ne.net

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Mar 4, 2004, 11:43:03 AM3/4/04
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In article <20040304105639...@mb-m19.aol.com>, HC says...

>
>Ray also watches Regis & Kelly and Oprah.
>
>He's a walking fem demographic.

Easy there bucko - I don't watch those people & I'm totally "fem." That's
housewife stuff. You can't watch those programs if you have a job. I work.

K
>
>


kwyn...@ne.net

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Mar 4, 2004, 11:46:07 AM3/4/04
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In article <jLH1c.52212$C65....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>, Ray Gordon says...

>
>It has been ruled a very legal way of catching discriminators.
>
>You seem almost sympathetic to civil rights violators. How sad.
>
>--
Are you sure you're not just into cyber-cross-dressing? Do you dress up all
"girly" at home before doing these "sting" operations?

K


kwyn...@ne.net

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Mar 4, 2004, 11:47:41 AM3/4/04
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In article <SVG1c.5098$e06....@fe3.columbus.rr.com>, HeeroYuy says...

You have to know about the law to know that I quess.

K
>
>


HC

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From: kwyn...@ne.net

All I said was that he fits the "fem" demographic, like a glove actually. That
you don't has no bearing on how much HE does.

And you are correct . . . employed people are rarely watching Regis and Kelly.


HeeroYuy

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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
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> It has been ruled a very legal way of catching discriminators.

Care to cite that?

>
> You seem almost sympathetic to civil rights violators. How sad.

I'm not, but to break the law to catch criminals is NOT how to get them
locked up. It's an easy way for them to walk and YOU to be Bubba's new
fuck-toy. Still, one has to wonder the true reason behind your "disguises."

kwyn...@ne.net

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In article <20040304114750...@mb-m22.aol.com>, HC says...

Regis is a dork. Remember Kathy Lee G.? God what a stupid cow she was! My mom
watched that stuff. She was the world's last housewife. Damn, I wish I had a
housewife. I've got a sink full of dirty dishes and my laundry basket is
overflowing. (No lesbianism suggested here.)

Kate
>
>


aardvark9084

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Mar 4, 2004, 12:35:15 PM3/4/04
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"HC" <thehc...@aol.com> wrote in message
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agree 100%

ray loves to project his lack of balls and estrogenic fantasies on the
group. claiming that his targets "aren't much of a man" and such other
tripe.

his message board where he, his male sock (ovid), and his girlie sock are
the only inhabitants, also feature a soap opera message forum. ray loves his
stories and the chance to chat among his invisible "friends".

the house fraus and ray can get as pissed off as they want towards me but
the sad fact remains is that people that have no life or career (and are too
poor for digital cable for that matter) are wasting their days away with
their noses stuck in network tv's daytime vaginal outpourings.

he actually thinks that women are the way they are portrayed on tv. lifetime
has it's heroines of it's cheesy movies as nothing more than victims of men
and their "exploits" and ray buys into it hook, line and stinker. it would
be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.

this stumbling, inept waldo has spun off an entire universe of women in his
head. chycks that don't reject him or call his a freak or a stalker. if the
elcetricity in ray's dungeon ever went out for more than a week and he
couldn't logon to the net, watch network daytime tv, or misuse the phone
lines in general, he'd end up hanging himself in the basement with a lamp
cord.

the biggest sham of the 21st century is a so-called expert on laying women
that won't leave his home to get them and is more likely than not right now
to be kicked back on his filthy sofa wearing a kotex mini-pad in his
skidmarked underoos, smoking a virginia slims cigarette, and breathlessly
watching "the view".

it's as disgusting as it is sad.


aardvark


Ray Gordon

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Mar 4, 2004, 12:39:10 PM3/4/04
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Look up "HUD" and "testers" for starters.

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Ray Gordon

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You have an awfully active imagination.

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aardvark9084

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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
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> You have an awfully active imagination.

i prefer the term "actively awful" when it comes to *my* imagination.

<i snipped your spam, ray, & left the rest of the text intact>

aardvark

I M Constantine

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>From: kwyn...@ne.net
>Date: 3/4/2004 11:46 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <j3J1c.5325$_4....@www.newsranger.com>

>Are you sure you're not just into cyber-cross-dressing? Do you dress up all
>"girly" at home before doing these "sting" operations?

>K

This 'famed' cross-dresser springs to mind when contemplating his "sting"
operations, K ...

http://tinyurl.com/2gd7s


Alex

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Mar 4, 2004, 4:10:39 PM3/4/04
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in article OiG1c.11713$YN5....@nwrdny03.gnilink.net, Ray Gordon at
r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 3/4/04 8:37 AM:

> It is the most efficient way to catch men in the act of sexual harassment
> and employment discrimination.
>
> When HUD does it, they call them "testers."


Except HUD actually USES the evidence they collect.

kwyn...@ne.net

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In article <20040304150420...@mb-m20.aol.com>, I M Constantine
says...

Eeeuuwww...very creapy!

K

>
>


John C. Randolph

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Mar 6, 2004, 11:14:06 PM3/6/04
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Ray Gordon wrote:
>
> It is the most efficient way to catch men in the act of sexual harassment
> and employment discrimination.

In chat rooms?

> When HUD does it, they call them "testers."

HUD sends people to apply in person for job openings.

-jcr

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