DAMN! Those bitches are using SS on me now!
Dagda Mor
I can think about is her and picturing myself having sex with her.
This aint a ont-tis, this happened within a fuckin HOUR. This girl's a
pro. This aint right! It's like she hynotised me or something. The
worse thing is that we didnt even talk. Now, if you dont help me,
i'm gonna be one of her guys she'll have wrapped around her fingers
I know i'll get laid but it's not the way things are supposed to
happen. I'm the player dammit I dont know how this happened.
A Modern Caveman
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Dagda Mor
wrote:
>I teach women how to use hypnosis to do that to men actually.
>
Look, Ray, I know we've known each other for less than a couple of
hours but i've been wondering, if you can teach how to use hypnosis,
can to tell me what to do to reverse it or that's gonna cost me money
now wont it?
Heero Yuy
"A Modern Caveman" <amodern...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030124153018...@mb-ck.aol.com...
> I teach women how to use hypnosis to do that to men actually.
This in stark contrast of Ray's book on how to "gain total sexual control of
a woman" using hypnosis.
A Modern Caveman
>>
>Look, Ray, I know we've known each other for less than a couple of
>hours but i've been wondering, if you can teach how to use hypnosis,
>can to tell me what to do to reverse it or that's gonna cost me money
>now wont it?
Put it this way:
I began using hypnosis when I was eight (a yoga teacher had hypnotized a
class). Got good at it in my teens, and adventurous with it in my twenties.
Now I produce erotic hypnosis recordings and teach it to women as a new sexual
skill. I don't try to hypnotize them (they have to practically BEG me to do it
before I'll invest the energy), and usually just scout them for talent. I pay
them a modest wage while I train them (about 85 percent cheaper than market
value), script them, record them, and SELL the finished product.
The first file I produced was "Anonymistress," to which I own the exclusive
copyright. I gave that file away for a while, and it became so popular that
she kept recording and now has about a dozen files on the market.
The next recording, "Hellen I," has been on sale for a while, and she earns a
healthy royalty from her work. I run the site like a record company and have
more productions planned. Instead of trying to make a fortune with any one
file, accumulating several profitable ones seems to be the way to go.
As a gimmick, however, it can't be beat. Women enjoy playing around with it,
especially if you're good and creative, but that won't come overnight.
A good, strong, recording should make you immune to most other women.
A Modern Caveman
>
>This in stark contrast of Ray's book on how to "gain total sexual control of
>a woman" using hypnosis.
Which book was that?
I've been teaching this to women for quite some time and even sell some of the
better work.
It's profitable and a nice erotic toy that gets me about 90 percent of my
quality play.
A.Melon
http://www.ray-gordon.com/ (now over 19,000 hits)
In an effort to inform the many people on Usenet who have been offended, provoked, harassed or
otherwise puzzled by the individual calling himself "Ray Gordon", the above website was created
to detail some of his behaviors, opinions, mental illness, and his tendency to proclaim himself
an expert on pretty much everything. The site is NOT affiliated with Gordon Parker and he has
made numerous threats of legal action against it.
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In article <20030124153018...@mb-ck.aol.com>
amodern...@aol.com (A Modern Caveman) wrote:
I teach women how to use hypnosis to do that to men actually.
Ray Gordon: BACK by popular demand!
Limited time only!
Everything you need to know about women. FREE!
A.Melon
http://www.ray-gordon.com/ (now over 19,000 hits)
In an effort to inform the many people on Usenet who have been offended, provoked, harassed or
otherwise puzzled by the individual calling himself "Ray Gordon", the above website was created
to detail some of his behaviors, opinions, mental illness, and his tendency to proclaim himself
an expert on pretty much everything. The site is NOT affiliated with Gordon Parker and he has
made numerous threats of legal action against it.
New visitors to alt.seduction.fast are welcomed and directed to the main website
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In article <20030124183242...@mb-fg.aol.com>
amodern...@aol.com (A Modern Caveman) wrote:
>
Put it this way:
A.Melon
http://www.ray-gordon.com/ (now over 19,000 hits)
In an effort to inform the many people on Usenet who have been offended, provoked, harassed or
otherwise puzzled by the individual calling himself "Ray Gordon", the above website was created
to detail some of his behaviors, opinions, mental illness, and his tendency to proclaim himself
an expert on pretty much everything. The site is NOT affiliated with Gordon Parker and he has
made numerous threats of legal action against it.
New visitors to alt.seduction.fast are welcomed and directed to the main website
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In article <20030124183341...@mb-fg.aol.com>
amodern...@aol.com (A Modern Caveman) wrote:
Which book was that?
Hypnotic Phantom
>I teach women how to use hypnosis to do that to men actually.
>
Ray,
As I've stated in the HS chatroom, on Alt.hypnosis, and other places...
I doubt you could hypnotize a narcaleptic on NyQuil!
HP
To fight in just causes.
To be merciful at all times.
To put the services of Ladies foremost.
Le Morte De Arthur
Odious
A Modern Caveman wrote:
>
> >>I teach women how to use hypnosis to do that to men actually.
> >>
> >Look, Ray, I know we've known each other for less than a couple of
> >hours but i've been wondering, if you can teach how to use hypnosis,
> >can to tell me what to do to reverse it or that's gonna cost me money
> >now wont it?
>
> Put it this way:
>
> I began using hypnosis when I was eight
LOL!
Manic compensation mode kicking into overdrive there ray?
A Modern Caveman
>sexual
>>skill. I don't try to hypnotize them (they have to practically BEG me to do
>it
>>before I'll invest the energy), and usually just scout them for talent. I
>pay
>>them a modest wage while I train them (about 85 percent cheaper than market
>>value), script them, record them, and SELL the finished product.
>
>"beg" you to hypno-zap them, & <chuckle> "YOU" "PAY"
>them a "modest wage" while they "train" <chuckle>.. wait..
>
>..and you "deny" them this 'joy.. HAHAHAHA
You missed what I said: I pay them to TRAIN to RECORD, then I SELL the
recordings.
>(yuk) then you "sell" this end product..to other "women" who can't
>bow at your feet for $$ only to be denied.. hehehehehehe
Nice misrepresentation. Shows your ignorance quite well.
>wait..there's more... ..bring da band on down behind me, boys...
>
>>The first file I produced was "Anonymistress," to which I own the exclusive
>>copyright. I gave that file away for a while, and it became so popular that
>>she kept recording and now has about a dozen files on the market.
>
>You produced a BDSM hypno tape, "copy-righted" it..(hahaha)..
>..hohohoho.. yet you "gave that "..file.." away.. Hold on..
Yes. It was a joint project done to promote free recordings and make them
longer. Very popular.
>Wait for it... ...2...3...4...
>
>>The next recording, "Hellen I," has been on sale for a while, and she earns
>a
>>healthy royalty from her work. I run the site like a record company and
>have
>>more productions planned. Instead of trying to make a fortune with any one
>>file, accumulating several profitable ones seems to be the way to go.
>
>" "Helen I" "..??? is there a "v2" coming out soon..?? <hehehehe>
My site explains that, or will.
>You and this "helen" have been selling this joke now for awhile, SHE
>is earning a "healthy" royalty from HER work.. You now run a
>"record company" (yuk yuk) type biz. Yet you won't make a "fortune"
>on this "file"..u want to ...wait...blah blah blah.. This is rich..
The file has more than justified its existence financially.
>In the mean time, you threaten to sue 100+ people and beg
>the court to pay for it.. U ought to 'git' u sum "fortune"..grp-ie.
>
><insert loud rimshot here>
>
>>As a gimmick, however, it can't be beat. Women enjoy playing around with
>it,
>>especially if you're good and creative, but that won't come overnight.
>
>You now say it's a fake, a "gimmick".. & it seems to be a good one.
>"Women" buy it...yet this art takes time.. Years, weeks..what..?
You're misinterpreting: MEN buy it, not women.
>>A good, strong, recording should make you immune to most other women.
>
>And to the whole end, this crap is to make "them" immune to
>other women.. those you "deny" a "modest" wage to...?
Your ignorance continues to show.
>Sure Gordon... Does it work on you dollies..did they "buy" the file?
>
>are u "immune" to them now...? Where is thier pix on your site...?
Learn to UNDERSTAND what you read before you go making a fool out of yourself.
Ray Gordon: BACK by popular demand!
Limited time only!
Everything you need to know about women. FREE!
A Modern Caveman
>Manic compensation mode kicking into overdrive there ray?
More like JEALOUSY mode in you.
Oh wait, anything to deflect from the topic at hand, I forgot.
Dagda Mor
wrote:
>Put it this way:
>
>I began using hypnosis when I was eight (a yoga teacher had hypnotized a
>class). Got good at it in my teens, and adventurous with it in my twenties.
>
>Now I produce erotic hypnosis recordings and teach it to women as a new sexual
>skill. I don't try to hypnotize them (they have to practically BEG me to do it
>before I'll invest the energy), and usually just scout them for talent. I pay
>them a modest wage while I train them (about 85 percent cheaper than market
>value), script them, record them, and SELL the finished product.
>
>The first file I produced was "Anonymistress," to which I own the exclusive
>copyright. I gave that file away for a while, and it became so popular that
>she kept recording and now has about a dozen files on the market.
>
>The next recording, "Hellen I," has been on sale for a while, and she earns a
>healthy royalty from her work. I run the site like a record company and have
>more productions planned. Instead of trying to make a fortune with any one
>file, accumulating several profitable ones seems to be the way to go.
>
>As a gimmick, however, it can't be beat. Women enjoy playing around with it,
>especially if you're good and creative, but that won't come overnight.
>
>A good, strong, recording should make you immune to most other women.
Alright But the question that remain is: is there life on mars? I mean
the question that remain is: is it legal to hynotize somebody without
them knowing and then having sex with them? The same goes with NLP.
I recall a message from you ray or another big poster from 3 years
back here in ASF saying that "If you use some sort of nlp or
hynotizing techniques to have sex with a girl and his father finds out
he's gonna get so mad may end up dead." I may not remember correctly
or mix it up with something it but I'm still concern about those two
technique being legal and to what extend.
A Modern Caveman
>>
>
>Ray,
>
>As I've stated in the HS chatroom, on Alt.hypnosis, and other places...
>
>I doubt you could hypnotize a narcaleptic on NyQuil!
Like your opinion matters?
Hellen is the one whose work I sell.
Heero Yuy
> >
> >Manic compensation mode kicking into overdrive there ray?
>
> More like JEALOUSY mode in you.
>
> Oh wait, anything to deflect from the topic at hand, I forgot.
NOTE: Gordon Parker has been known to project his miserable neurotic habits
onto other, more sane people.
Paul Robinson
> Learn to UNDERSTAND what you read before you go making a fool out of yourself.
Some part of me wants to give you ten points for making the most hysterically
funny statement you've ever made because it was so obvious as that it also applies
to someone else, so I won't give you any points but I will respond to it with just
three words,.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
--
Paul Robinson "Above all else... We shall go on..."
"...And continue!"
"If the lessons of history teach us anything it is
that nobody learns the lessons that history teaches us."
James King
> [Gordon,] Learn to explain things better..but either way, it's a joke..
Gordon will never, ever stoop to explaining things better, even though he
knows he's capable of doing so.
It is so against his online character to be clear and concise without
resorting to lame subjective insults that I believe it is impossible for
him to do so.
I suspect his online character is at least partly representative of his
character offline.
James King
--
The Shadow Radio Theater -- http://www.shadowradio.org
A.Melon
Everything you need to know about A Modern Caveman. FREE!
http://www.ray-gordon.com/ (now over 19,000 hits)
In an effort to inform the many people on Usenet who have been offended, provoked, harassed or
otherwise puzzled by the individual calling himself "Ray Gordon", the above website was created
to detail some of his behaviors, opinions, mental illness, and his tendency to proclaim himself
an expert on pretty much everything. The site is NOT affiliated with Gordon Parker and he has
made numerous threats of legal action against it.
New visitors to alt.seduction.fast are welcomed and directed to the main website
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amodern...@aol.com (A Modern Caveman) wrote:
A.Melon
http://www.ray-gordon.com/ (now over 19,000 hits)
In an effort to inform the many people on Usenet who have been offended, provoked, harassed or
otherwise puzzled by the individual calling himself "Ray Gordon", the above website was created
to detail some of his behaviors, opinions, mental illness, and his tendency to proclaim himself
an expert on pretty much everything. The site is NOT affiliated with Gordon Parker and he has
made numerous threats of legal action against it.
New visitors to alt.seduction.fast are welcomed and directed to the main website
http://www.fastseduction.com
Most seduction discussion has been relocated to the forums on this website, as
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amodern...@aol.com (A Modern Caveman) wrote:
A.Melon
Everything you need to know about A Modern Caveman. FREE!
http://www.ray-gordon.com/ (now over 19,000 hits)
In an effort to inform the many people on Usenet who have been offended, provoked, harassed or
otherwise puzzled by the individual calling himself "Ray Gordon", the above website was created
to detail some of his behaviors, opinions, mental illness, and his tendency to proclaim himself
an expert on pretty much everything. The site is NOT affiliated with Gordon Parker and he has
made numerous threats of legal action against it.
New visitors to alt.seduction.fast are welcomed and directed to the main website
http://www.fastseduction.com
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In article <20030125055917...@mb-de.aol.com>
amodern...@aol.com (A Modern Caveman) wrote:
>
Like your opinion matters?
Odious
A Modern Caveman wrote:
>
> >>I teach women how to use hypnosis to do that to men actually.
> >>
> >
> >Ray,
> >
> >As I've stated in the HS chatroom, on Alt.hypnosis, and other places...
> >
> >I doubt you could hypnotize a narcaleptic on NyQuil!
>
> Like your opinion matters?
>
Regardless of his opinion, you are still completely full of shit, ray.
Odious
Though I do wonder what exactly, in his fevered dementia, makes him
believe he has something of which I would be jealous. What it it that he
has going for him that he thinks inspires envy?
A Modern Caveman
>
>Gordon will never, ever stoop to explaining things better, even though he
>knows he's capable of doing so.
>
>It is so against his online character to be clear and concise without
>resorting to lame subjective insults that I believe it is impossible for
>him to do so.
>
>I suspect his online character is at least partly representative of his
>character offline.
I suspect there's a guy here who's a little WHIPPED.
Ray Gordon: BACK by popular demand!
Limited time only!
Everything you need to know about women. FREE!
Paul Robinson
> >> [Gordon,] Learn to explain things better..but either way, it's a joke..
> >
> >Gordon will never, ever stoop to explaining things better, even though he
> >knows he's capable of doing so.
> >
> >It is so against his online character to be clear and concise without
> >resorting to lame subjective insults that I believe it is impossible for
> >him to do so.
> >
> >I suspect his online character is at least partly representative of his
> >character offline.
>
> I suspect there's a guy here who's a little WHIPPED.
Me too. Perhaps he's so whipped because he hates his birth name and posts
under an altered form of it because he's so ashamed of his birth name. Maybe
it's because it's the same last name as a famous woman bank robber. No, not
Ma Barker, but a woman who's first name is like that of a song, "My ---- rides
over the ocean."
Or maybe it's because he can't even do his last name as expressed in this lame
joke. "What do you do if you get a woman alone with you when you're driving
in your car? Park her."
(I thought that joke up.)
A.Melon
http://www.ray-gordon.com/ (now over 19,000 hits)
In an effort to inform the many people on Usenet who have been offended, provoked, harassed or
otherwise puzzled by the individual calling himself "Ray Gordon", the above website was created
to detail some of his behaviors, opinions, mental illness, and his tendency to proclaim himself
an expert on pretty much everything. The site is NOT affiliated with Gordon Parker and he has
made numerous threats of legal action against it.
New visitors to alt.seduction.fast are welcomed and directed to the main website
http://www.fastseduction.com
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In article <20030126130818...@mb-mg.aol.com>
amodern...@aol.com (A Modern Caveman) wrote:
>
James King
<postm...@paul.washington.dc.us> wrote:
> A Modern Caveman wrote:
>
> > >> [Gordon,] Learn to explain things better..but either way, it's a joke..
> > >
> > >Gordon will never, ever stoop to explaining things better, even though he
> > >knows he's capable of doing so.
> > >
> > >It is so against his online character to be clear and concise without
> > >resorting to lame subjective insults that I believe it is impossible for
> > >him to do so.
> > >
> > >I suspect his online character is at least partly representative of his
> > >character offline.
> >
> > I suspect there's a guy here who's a little WHIPPED.
>
> Me too. Perhaps he's so whipped because he hates his birth name and posts
> under an altered form of it because he's so ashamed of his birth name. Maybe
> it's because it's the same last name as a famous woman bank robber. No, not
> Ma Barker, but a woman who's first name is like that of a song, "My ---- rides
> over the ocean."
>
> Or maybe it's because he can't even do his last name as expressed in this lame
> joke. "What do you do if you get a woman alone with you when you're driving
> in your car? Park her."
>
> (I thought that joke up.)
Good joke. May I award points?
Notice that Gordon had to resort to a lame subjective insult, rather
than actually explain things clearly and concisely without insults. It
supports the hypothesis that he is unable to explain things clearly.
And it furthers the suspicion that his online character and offline
character are similar, if not identical.
James King
(or James' fiance ... ya never know)
Odious
A Modern Caveman wrote:
>
> >> [Gordon,] Learn to explain things better..but either way, it's a joke..
> >
> >Gordon will never, ever stoop to explaining things better, even though he
> >knows he's capable of doing so.
> >
> >It is so against his online character to be clear and concise without
> >resorting to lame subjective insults that I believe it is impossible for
> >him to do so.
> >
> >I suspect his online character is at least partly representative of his
> >character offline.
>
> I suspect there's a guy here who's a little WHIPPED.
>
Are you talking about the whipping Judge Kelly gave you?
____________________________________________________________
From: amodern...@aol.com (A Modern Caveman)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: 27 Jul 2002 06:08:01 GMT
Message-ID: <20020727020801...@mb-fg.aol.com>
"The judge's opinion is all that matters, now isn't it?"
____________________________________________________________
So what was the Judge's opinion...
"As plaintiff is proceeding Pro Se and is, ostensibly
neither an attorney nor well-versed in the law and procedure
involved in the pursuit of his claim, this Court recommends
that he seek counsel before proceeding further in what appears
to be a complex action."
(Oh, ouch... so much for Ray's claims to be a legal expert. A judge's
opinion is that ray doesn't know what he is doing. Gosh who else said
that ray didn't understand RICO? Seems to me someone said something like,
"I've read RICO. Ray does not understand the law at all." Looks like the
judge agrees.)
and
"Nor does Plaintiff cite to any law to support his legal assertion
that he is entitled to a TRO. Rather, Plaintiff offers one mere
conclusory statement that he is likely to prevail on the merits
of his claim and that the continued publication of the RayFAQ
website will cause irreparable harm to Plaintiff, not limited to
damage to his reputation, employment, and investment prospects.
Without more than mere conclusions, this Court cannot consider
and weigh the factors necessary for the issuance of a TRO.
Accordingly, Plaintiff's Motion for Temporary Injunctive Relief
is DENIED."
(Only has conclusions, and nothing to support them... gosh looks like the
Judge noticed the same behavior from ray that so many here notice. THat
he has a hell of a lot of claims, but nothing backing them up other than
his own insistence.)
and
"Specifically, Plaintiff's excuse that he did not learn of this
Court's ruling for two weeks on his IFP motion is disingenuous.
According to this Court's docket report, Plaintiff's IFP motion
was filed on September 10, 2002, decided on September 12, 2002,
and the order mailed to him on September 16, 2002. On September
18, 2002, just eight (8) days after Plaintiff filed his IFP motion,
Plaintiff submitted his $150.00 filing fee to the Clerk of Court,
presumably in response to this Court's denial of his IFP motion.
Plaintiff misrepresents the alleged delay, as the docket report
clearly indicates that he knew of the decision prior to the passage
of two weeks' time."
(Oh "misrepresents" and "disingenuous" it would seem that again the
Judge's opinion, which ray values so much, is supporting what most here
have known for years. Ray is a liar who will knowingly misrepresent the
truth in his favor, even to a federal judge. If he'll lie like that to a
judge, what makes you think he wouldn't lie on usenet or to a customer...
that is if he had a customer.)
and
"Notwithstanding the force of authority requiring
personal service under Rule 45, Plaintiff has not demonstrated
that he has expended any effort whatsoever to identify the
Defendants or to serve the subpoenas upon the ISPs and, thus,
his assertion that the costs are prohibitive and beyond his
means is mere speculation."
(In the judge's opinion, ray tried to present mere speculation as fact.
Looks like another of the judge's opinions supports what ASFers have said
about ray all along. He makes crap up, then acts like it's fact.)
And remember: "The judge's opinion is all that matters, now isn't it?"
Paul Robinson
> In article <3E3428EB...@paul.washington.dc.us>, Paul Robinson
> <postm...@paul.washington.dc.us> wrote:
>
> > A Modern Caveman wrote:
> >
> > > >> [Gordon,] Learn to explain things better..but either way, it's a joke..
> > > >
> > > >Gordon will never, ever stoop to explaining things better, even though he
> > > >knows he's capable of doing so.
> > > >
> > > >It is so against his online character to be clear and concise without
> > > >resorting to lame subjective insults that I believe it is impossible for
> > > >him to do so.
> > > >
> > > >I suspect his online character is at least partly representative of his
> > > >character offline.
> > >
> > > I suspect there's a guy here who's a little WHIPPED.
> >
> > Me too. Perhaps he's so whipped because he hates his birth name and posts
> > under an altered form of it because he's so ashamed of his birth name. Maybe
> > it's because it's the same last name as a famous woman bank robber. No, not
> > Ma Barker, but a woman who's first name is like that of a song, "My ---- rides
> > over the ocean."
> >
> > Or maybe it's because he can't even do his last name as expressed in this lame
> > joke. "What do you do if you get a woman alone with you when you're driving
> > in your car? Park her."
> >
> > (I thought that joke up.)
>
> Good joke. May I award points?
Absolutely. We'll do a settlement at the end of the year and see who gets the most
points.
> James King
> (or James' fiance ... ya never know)
Well, if you're not James, I'm tempted to say something here but I won't. I know,
I'll let my alter ego do it for me:
"Oh, by the way, ma'am, would you mind if I asked you something that you might
find insulting?"
"Yes, I'd be interested in having sex again with you 246, but not tonight, I'm
already seeing someone. Actually, Tom asked me. In a couple of days would be all
right."
"Well, give my best friend a couple extra climaxes for me while you're at it
since I can't do it to him."
- 246 to Joan 20319 in Paul Robinson's "Instrument of God"