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j_k_james

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May 31, 2002, 11:36:53 AM5/31/02
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Russia's bogus 'email brides'
break the hearts - and wallets - of Western men

Observer Worldview

Nick Paton Walsh Moscow
Sunday May 5,2002
The Observer


He was a chauffeur aged 48 in Baltimore and she was a 28-year- old in Kiev.
Anthony DiMario first fell for Oksana Stolyarenko two months ago.

They made contact through an internet agency and began exchanging emails.
Although they never met, she sent him her pictures and frank, articulate emails.


Only a month later, DiMario stood in the arrivals lounge of Dulles airport,
Maryland, his dreams in tatters, having wired $3,350 (£2, 280) of his savings to
Oksana's 'agent' in Kiev.

DiMario is one of hundreds of men who have fallen victim to the scams of 'email
brides' on the internet.

Experts say the vast majority of 'email brides' are scams designed to lure
Western men into parting with cash. And they are the topic of a Hollywood film,
released next month. In Birthday Girl, Nicole Kidman plays a Russian who travels
to England to live with banker Ben Chaplin, after he orders her with a credit
card on the Net. Chaplin soon discovers that the woman lied about not speaking
English and is involved in a complex fraud.

DiMario first sensed trouble when Oksana suggested she visit him in Baltimore as
a student. 'She said she needed $1,850 for visas, a flight and medical tests,'
he said.

He was suspicious, but agreed when Oksana's agency, Kiev's Paradise of Angels
Internet Club, put him in touch with previous clients and assured him that he
would recoup most of the money when Oksana was granted state student benefits in
America.

'There seemed like nothing to lose, so I wired the money,' said DiMario. He was
delighted. 'I was divorced two years ago and it is so hard to meet single women
at my age.'

But just as Oksana was due to leave Kiev, she called in a panic, saying the
airline had turned her away. She had to have $1,500 in cash in 'security money'
to clear US Customs. 'She said the rule was new and I had waited so long that I
wired it.'

DiMario waited in vain for her arrival or emails but Oksana had vanished, as had
her agent. 'I began investigating and came across a site about Russian bride
scams. There I found pictures of "Oksana", using four aliases. The pictures she
gave me were not of her, but of a popular Russian model, Anna Smirnova. Oksana
was a real person, but nothing like who I thought she was.'

Paradise of Angels Internet Club could not be reached for comment. 'Ninety per
cent of these "agencies" are scams,' said Chris Berry-Dee, 50, a British
criminologist, based in Portsmouth. 'Normally, with one of these agencies, a
letter comes back very quickly. Two or three letters later, the girl asks to
come and visit. But these are often just standard emails that agencies churn
out.

'The men are then asked to pay for gifts, translators and registration fees.
They are invited on tours to the former Soviet Union to meet these women and the
organisers then make excuses when the girl does not turn up at the hotel.

'On some of these sites, there are thousands of interested men but very few
women available. Logically, they have to be in touch with several men at once.'

While the FBI receives many complaints about these services, others insist that
'email brides' are driven by more innocent desires and simply prefer the life
and manners of Western men.

'They are more reliable,' said Svetlana, 24, from Tchimkent, Kazakhstan, who is
using a dating service based in Leeds. 'I have met a few foreign men through the
internet but it is hard to find a good man, no matter the country.'

John Weedon, 50, an accountant from Cambridge, met his wife, Irina, from
Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, over the internet and now runs the website A Russian Bride
to help Irina's friends in Bishkek find Western men.

'It's amazing how many Russian women want to get out of the former Soviet Union.
There are thousands of interested older men. Russian women don't seem to mind
older men,' he said.


Ronn

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May 31, 2002, 2:08:27 PM5/31/02
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Normal
Everything is a scam.
Marriage is a scam.
Women are a scam.
Taxes are a scam.
freedom is a scam.

Did you not know this.

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Ronn

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May 31, 2002, 3:07:28 PM5/31/02
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Try C.O.D.

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Win At Betting

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May 31, 2002, 3:59:04 PM5/31/02
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Actually, Aaron's idea of going to the country ON YOUR OWN is the best one.

Then you meet the women who aren't mercenary but who still want out of the
country.


Ray Gordon, GENIUS
http://www.cybersheet.com

Mr Looney Bin

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May 31, 2002, 9:38:27 PM5/31/02
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He did...Conned On Delivery (Of Cash)

MLB

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Mr Looney Bin

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May 31, 2002, 9:39:32 PM5/31/02
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We need to contact the reporter about Shane Neff...

his RW asked for a divorce...30 minutes after she
got her green card.

LOL!

MLB

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Win At Betting ADVISORY

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May 31, 2002, 8:19:31 PM5/31/02
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In article <20020531155904...@mb-bj.aol.com>

winatb...@aol.com (Win At Betting) wrote:
>
> Actually, Aaron's idea of going to the country ON YOUR OWN is the best one.
>
> Then you meet the women who aren't mercenary but who still want out of the
> country.
>
>
> Ray Gordon, GENIUS


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Actually means Cash on Delivery of Baby with DNA matching payer.

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j_k_james

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You can read about Shane Neffs mail order bride from hell at

http://www.match-seeker.com/shane.htm


In article <oBVJ8.4475$b73...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>, Mr Looney Bin says...

zed

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j_k_james <nos...@newsranger.com> wrote in message news:<pMMJ8.20198>

> Paradise of Angels Internet Club could not be reached for comment. 'Ninety per
> cent of these "agencies" are scams,' said Chris Berry-Dee, 50, a British
> criminologist, based in Portsmouth. 'Normally, with one of these agencies, a
> letter comes back very quickly. Two or three letters later, the girl asks to
> come and visit. But these are often just standard emails that agencies churn
> out.
>
> 'The men are then asked to pay for gifts, translators and registration fees.
> They are invited on tours to the former Soviet Union to meet these women and the
> organisers then make excuses when the girl does not turn up at the hotel.
>
> 'On some of these sites, there are thousands of interested men but very few
> women available. Logically, they have to be in touch with several men at once.'
>

Before you quote this "criminologist" (when does having written a
couple of pulp/trade books based on readily-available information make
one a criminologist?)you'd best check out:

http://www.womenrussia.com/story9.htm

seems he's now a shill for the Russian Bride industry. (plus he's
posted a very padded vitae and knocked about 10 years off his age)

There is no doubt there are many women who want out of that life. If
you choose to bring one out, stand by for being dumped as soon as the
baby is born, the paperwork for citizenship is signed and sealed, or
she finds someone closer to her age.

If you want to read a sad tale of woe regarding several attempts at
bringing home a Russian bride, run a Google search on "Indle Anastasia
King". Eye opener.

z.zed

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