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Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:42:32 -0500
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Subject: NEW VISITORS READ THIS FIRST (A.S.F. FAQ) [part 2 of 2]
[part 2 of 2]

Q:"What is a 'neg' or 'neg hit'?"

A: It's an approach/attract theory from Mystery. A negative remark
towards a girl designed to break her indifference to you by showing
her that you are indifferent to her beauty (or other striking
features). Not an insult, that would be bad. More like "Those are
interesting nails - are they real?" or "It's really cute how your
nose wiggles when you talk - look, there it goes again!
&lt;chuckle&gt;". No more than 2 negs on an average HB (7-9/7-9), a
maximum of 3 on a super HB (10/10). Negs are pretty much a necessity
for 10s or strippers (whether they're 10s or not - simply because
they are in an environment which is condusive to them thinking they
are 10s).

Negs to anything below an everage HB is generally BAD unless the
chick is giving off vibes that she THINKS she is a 9/10.

Q:"What is the 3s (3 second) rule?"

Note: The "3s / 3 second" rule was originally coined by Mystery on
ASF. A description is also available in the acronym page at
http://www.fastseduction.com/acronyms.shtml.

A: FWIW, the 3S Rule is generally considered to be operant in almost
all situations. IOW, it's not the 3 Second Nightclub Rule, the 3
Second Bus Stop Rule, the 3 Second Street Rule, etc...

The 3S Rule is basically a guideline for making a decisive move on
an HB Target, as soon as is practicable, and without hesitation.
Hesitation is usually a sign of weakness, indecision, and lack of
confidence. Since confidence is something that almost all women
desire in, and find attractive about men, the rule is meant to serve
as a principle of moving quickly to show strength, confidence and
intent, and therefore attractiveness... Almost all AFCs will sit and
watch a girl, wondering if they should approach, and eventually
talking themselves out of making said approach. A PUA will not
hesitate.

One other thing. This may seem contrary to the spirit of the 3S
rule, but it is nonetheless a field-proven tenet: 3 seconds is only
a guideline. Sometimes it takes more than three ticks to get to an
HB, or to get in a position to do something that would require the
rule to be in effect. So, it's really a precept of approaches to do
something ASAP, or risk losing stature in the eyes of some HB.

~Jack, ASF, 1999/11/12

Q:"How can I know if she likes me?"

A: Watch her body language. Listen to her responses to you. If/how
she touches you. Her facial expressions. Is she twirling her hair?
Licking her lips? Hips facing you? Complimenting you? Listening
attently? Nodding her head in agreement with you? Leaning into you?
Touching your arm or hands (anywhere) or your back? Starting to talk
about sensual/sexual things? Eyebrows raised a bit? Eyes wide open?
Smiling? Teeth when smiling? Head slightly tilted? Eyes and
attention remains on you?

If you've got her number and have called her more than once to set
up a date and she keeps cancelling or making excuses, she DOES NOT
like you. That, or she's doing "The Rules" (some chick guide book)
and you probably don't want to get with her anyway. If she never
returns your calls, she DOES NOT like you. If you've spent a lot of
time with her but have not sexed her and she dumps all her life shit
on you, you have become her grilfriend and are in LJBF land. She
might like you, but she won't have sex with you.

Q:"How do I get a woman who is not interested, to go out with me?"

A: You can't, but that's obvious. She has to have some interest in
you in order to "go out" with you so the real question should be
"How do I get a woman interested in me so that she'll want to go out
with me?" The steps to doing that are all over this FAQ.

Q:"What do I do if she says she has a boyfriend?"

A: First of all, in your initial meeting with a woman, don't go out
of your way to ask if she has a boyfriend unless it is part of the
conversation. Asking about it will give her the impression that
you're trying to get with her and your approach will lose some
strength. A woman will introduce the boyfriend (real or not) into
the conversation in 2 ways:

1. "I have a boyfriend." This is usually given as a response to you
asking her for something ("Can I have your number?", "Let's go
out.", "Let's get to know each other better.", etc.). If that is her
first response, you have not done enough work to attract her or you
have supplicated to her (asked her for something - her number, a
date, whatever) and did not structure an opportunity for HER to get
with YOU rather that YOU trying too hook up with HER. At this point,
don't give up (especially if you seem to be setting up some good
rapport). Rather, regroup, refocus, and reframe the situation in
your mind. Don't make her boyfriend mention a big deal and simply
keep building up your personality. Don't TELL her you're a
super/great/awesome guy. SHOW her by your actions, your mannerisms,
your confidence. Give her the subtle impression that whoever ger
boyfriend is, he doesn't have what you have. He can't offer what you
offer. Then, instead of supplicating to her again (asking for
number, blah blah), structure an opportunity. If she doesn't take
the bait, move on.

2. "Yeah, blah blah, my boyfriend did that the other day. Blah
blah." A lot of the time when a woman mentions her boyfriend (real
or not) in this way (as part of her conversation rather than as an
excuse for not getting with you), she is doing 2 things. She is
asserting her desireability and quality, and she is testing to see
your reaction. Treat it as simply part of the conversation.
Remember, just because a chick says she has a boyfriend does not
mean he makes her happy, satisfies her, or is meaningful to her at
all. Wommen CHOOSE to be with someone and they can CHOOSE to not be
with that someone and be with you. Your job is to attract her, get
her excited about you, then structure an opportunity for her to get
with you.

Q:"How do I get a woman's phone number?"

A: Don't ask her for it. Yes, this doesn't sound right, does it? But
the best way to get a number (a REAL number) is to not ask but
rather structure an opportunity for her to get with you, after
you've already done the work of fascinating, attracting, and
seducing her. Once she is excited about you, she will fall over
herself to give you her number once you've structured an opportunity
for her. You can do that with some NLP negation (you: "Hm, I've got
to go. It's been nice talking with you. It's too bad we won't be
able to have an interesting conversation like this again..." her:
"Of course we can, here's my number!") or you can do it by asking
her a to provide a suggestion as to how you could hook up again
(you: "It's been nice talking with you. Can you think of a way we
can get together and do this another time?" her: "Sure, here's my
number!").

Further: Often when structuring the opportunity she will say "Well,
How about you give me your phone number". The proper response to
this is either to say "All right, lets go ahead and EXCHANGE
numbers" and pull out your pen. Or else agree, write down your phone
number, and then hand her a pen and paper ... she will reciprocate.
It is understood. Either way, you absolutely want her number. If she
will not give it over, you have done something wrong. Don't trust
her to call you, it wont happen.

~toecutter, 2001/01/17

Also, here is something to think about: Don't bother getting a
woman's number if you can fuck her in the next hour. Get the number
after. Or, if you can't fuck her but can immediately set up a coffee
meeting nearby, go for that. Remember, the purpose of getting a
number is to get with her. If you know for sure you can get with her
in the next hour, why bother with the number?

Further: the above is a good rule to live by, but remember that
getting a number is an intermediate close. When you have the number,
it is locked into her mind that it is an ongoing relationship, you
can still get her home or go for the coffee after getting the number
if you structure it properly (like you would with a male friend,
i.e. you need his number because you have to call him for
something.) It is never too early to get a number.

~toecutter, 2001/01/17

Q:"What do I do or say if when I ask a women for her number, she
says 'Why don't you give me YOUR number?' in a way that she is
giving me a hard time to get her number or outright refusing to give
it?"

A: See previous question fo a possible answer. This is almost as bad
as getting the "I have a boyfriend." response. Same as that
situation, it means you have not done enough work to attract her or
you have supplicated to her (asked her for something - her number, a
date, whatever) and did not structure an opportunity for HER to get
with YOU rather that YOU trying too hook up with HER.

If you think you've built up some good rapport but if she insists on
getting your number rather than you getting hers, reframe it for her
and say "I don't give my number out because I find that some women
just collect the numbers as some sort of game - comparing their pile
their girl friends'. I don't play those games." If necessary, add
that you keep a hactic schedule and if she's the one doing the
calling then she'll probably establish a lasting relationship with
your answering machine. However, if you get her number, you'll be
able to call her when you have the time to talk.

If she still resists, offer to trade numbers OR get her e-mail
address (or trade) instead (these days, it's almost as good -
sometimes better depending on the chick).

You may find that none of the above works to your liking. If you
still have time (still have her attention) at this point, don't give
up (especially if you seem to be setting up some good rapport).
Rather, regroup, refocus, and reframe the situation in your mind.
Don't make what she said a big deal and simply keep building up your
personality. Don't TELL her you're a super/great/awesome guy. SHOW
her by your actions, your mannerisms, your confidence. Give her the
subtle impression that other men don't have what you have. They
can't offer what you offer. Then, instead of supplicating to her
again (asking for number, blah blah), structure an opportunity for
her to give you hers. If she doesn't take the bait, move on.

Q:"How do I know the phone number she gave me is legit?"

A: Uhhh... call it? Seriously, though, here are some useful tips:

If she gives you her number verbally for you to write, wait a few
seconds after you've written it down and then ask her to repeat it
to make sure you've "written it down right". If the numbers don't
match, she's spewing a garbage number at you. Call her on her BS.
Best case, she is impressed by your backbone, apologizes, and gives
you her real number. Worst case, you show a woman that you have a
spine and don't let women walk all over you.

If she writes the number down herself, wait til she hands you the
number then pretend you can't read it and ask her to repeat the
number to you verbally. If the numbers don't match, she's spewing a
garbage number at you. Use the same advice as above.

Rather than calling her on her BS right away, make it seem like
you're onto her game without getting pissed and simply play along
with it and keep building rapport. Turn it around so that she starts
actually wanting to give you her real number and then, before you
go, give her the indication that you will call her to hook up later.
Then laugh and say "Unless, of course, the number you gave me was
BS...". Pause. Giver her a chance to humiliate herself by admitting
the previous number was false and handing you her real number. Worst
case? You're no better off than before and she gives you another
bogus number. Best case? You've given her a second chance (how great
of you... what a man) to get with you and you can reassure her that
you're not a typical guy and you understand why she might feel the
need to give out bogus numbers.

Q:"After getting a woman's phone number, when should I call, what
should I say, how do I set up a date?"

A: Before dealing with phone numbers, here is something to think
about: Don't bother getting a woman's number if you can fuck her in
the next hour. Get the number after. Or, if you can't fuck her but
can immediately set up a coffee meeting nearby, go for that.
Remember, the purpose of getting a number is to get with her. If you
know for sure you can get with her in the next hour, why bother with
the number?

OK, now that specific knowledge is out of the way, when do you first
call and how to set up a date? Don't call too damn soon (same day).
That's just sad and desperate. Deciding when to call after that day
should be based on how much you think she's already interested and
how attracted to you she was when you left her. if she seemed VERY
interested, it is probably OK to call the next day (at least 24-36
hours after fist meeting) and your SOLE goal is to set up a time &
place. A first meeting should NOT be a "date" but rather meeting her
for coffee or drinks somewhere. There is no need to fluff over the
phone. If she seemed interested but was not already hot for you, a
couple days is good. You may need to re-build her interest when she
talks to you on the phone. You have to be congruent with what you
were like when she first met you. That means if you were an amazing
flirt when you first met, you should be a bit flirtatious over the
phone. But just enough to leave her wanting more and then set up a
time/place to meet. Finally, get off the phone before she does. Just
say "OK, great, I have to go now - I'll see you later. Bye.
&lt;click&gt;"

If when trying to set up a meeting, she seems to begin to initiate
the "flakeout" routine ("Oh, can I call you back - what's your #?
I'm not sure when I'm available... blah blah blah") just tell her
that you called to set up a meeting and if you can't get her to
agree to anything NOW then maybe it's not worth getting together AT
ALL. Set up your rules for her. Make sure she knows you don't take
BS from anyone. Doesn't matter what her excuse is, don't believe it.
Women will say, and have said everything under the sun as an excuse
to flake out. "I'm flossing my cat.", "My roommate needs help
building a bomb.", "My landlord is coloring my hair to match the
drapes..." whatever... just realize that whatever they say other
than "OK, let's meet at X at X time" is a flakeout and it's your job
to not take her BS, give her your rules, and then let her decide
what she wants to do. If she wants to LOSE the opportunity to spend
time with you, that's HER choice. However, if she's smart she will
commit to something before you hang up.

Further: There is two schools of thought on this one. First up, the
probability of the # not blurring is much higher if you give her
some rules when you hand over your number in the exchange, and rule
# 1 is that when you call or if she calls you you will say just as
she has to say "Hi, &lt;PUA name&gt;, I am so glad you called, I was
just thinking about you." This works well because it sets the frame
for the rest of the conversation, and if she lives up to the rule,
then you know you can be short and sweet as above.

She doesn&#146;t follow the rule, and you have a possible blur on
your hands. Treat these as if they are fresh approaches. It is going
to take a good 15 minutes to get it back. Fluff, pattern, entertain.
Anchour it on your voice. Move it towards phone sex. See David
Shade's post: "Re: Seducing Girls/Women on AOL (was Need Help/Advice
and Fast!!!)" available at http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-
bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=1&mn=482977842

~toecutter, 2001/01/17

Q:"What's a good message to leave on my answering machine?"

A: "Hi, I'm not here to pick up the phone so leave your name and
number so I can get back to you later."

Q:"What do I do If I get her answering machine?"

A: Hang up. Unless you have a STRONG reason to believe that she will
definitely return your call in the next half hour, or unless you
have something EXTRAORDINARY to tell her, don't leave any messages.
And, if nobody has ever told you before, call-blocking is your
friend. You must make the assumption that every woman you will ever
call has Caller ID and screens her calls. Most areas in the US,
dialing *67 before making a call enables call blocking on your phone
number (it won't show up on a Caller ID device). Some phone
companies let you place a permanent block on your phone number.

Further: The telcos are now offering a service where if you *67 it,
the call goes straight to voice mail. Also, if you can not get onto
her, and the # is starting to go stale (about a week old), then it
is time to leave a message, and the right sort of message to leave
(with tonality working for you) is: "Hi this is &lt;PUA name&gt;
from &lt;place where you met&gt; last &lt;Monday&gt;, my number is
&lt;phone number&gt;. It is a pity I missed you. I was speaking to
someone about you the other day and they said that you .."
&lt;click, you hang-up mid sentence&gt;. If that doesn&#146;t get a
return phone call, nothing would have. (on the return phone call say
the person said that she had beautiful eyes, say you agree and
transition into an eyes pattern). If she doesn't call you can go
back to your *67 trying to get her.

~toecutter, 2001/01/17

Q:"What do I do if she gives me a beeper number instead of her phone
number or e-mail address?"

A: Drop her.

Q:"Where should I meet or take her when setting up a second meeting
(after a number close)?"

A: If she already seems hot and horny for you, then by all means
invite her to your place (for whatever...do whatever you like to do
like watch a movie, cook dinner, show her your pictures from your
last trip to TimBucktu). Otherwise, you'll want to set up a more
casual, non-intimidating meeting place where she will feel
comfortable and safe. That means a public place, but also one that
is condusive to to your seduction. Also, try to avoid the weekends
and go for something more in the line of meeting at a cafe on the
weekdays (afternoon or early evening). This will minimize the impact
of "date" expectations and you will both be more at ease. Doing this
also saves you from big expenses, especially if you do a lot of PUs.
Generally, you want to think of this event as a second opportunity
to screen her and to let her get a better appreciation of you. If it
doesn't work out, you haven't lost anything. Otherwise, you can
confidently move onto the next step which is to set up a more
significant meeting or take her home right away if you manage to
really do a good job seducing her.

Q:"Who pays? Should I pay? When should I pay? When should I not
pay?"

A: The default rule (for PUAs) is to not pay for anything except
yourself. "No play, no pay." However, this rule can (and should) be
superseded by whatever the circumstance entails but not to the
extent that you are going out of your way to impress or supplicate
to her.

### For newbie AFCs ###

Not paying for chicks is SECONDARY. The main thing is to seduce them
with your mental game and this "rule" about paying is just to
prevent you from doing what that that guy from the article "How not
to PU" on Maniac's site did (see
http://www.pickupguide.com/badpu1.htm). You DON'T pay for trips to
Paris and you DON'T buy them clothes and jewelry! As for coffee,
it's too insignificant an expense to risk putting her in a bad state
from which AFC newbies can't pull her from.

Our "rules" are in the function of seducing woman fast. They're not
designed for saving you money, nor for showing the bitches who's the
king.

When you tell a chick "I expect you to pay that.", she'll start
thinking. What's she going to think? That it's a good thing you're
making her pay for her own? Not likely. That it doesn't matter?
Possible. That it's a BAD thing? Most probably she will experience a
moment of discomfort and insecurity.

Not that the chick is a gold digger, it's simply a bad state
breaker. She's going to think about (even for 5 seconds) why you
won't pay for her coffee...

"Is he telling me he doesn't like me?"
"Is he too poor to afford coffee?"
"Is he a cheap skate?"

Now, I can pull her out of that state. So can NYC, Maniac, and other
PUAs, they can BOUNCE the chick around like a basketball and still
get pussy. How about some newbie? What is he going to think when he
says that after the "date" rapport went to hell and the chick
complained she was tired or whatever? What went wrong? So, the
primary advice to newbies is: not paying for chicks is secondary to
seducing them. Once you get good at attracting and seducing them,
the understanding about "who should pay" rules comes naturally.

~thx, 2001/01/20 (paraphrased)

Still don't get it? Want this point explained in-depth, along with
the basic reasoning behind the importance of such a topic? Then read
the following archived post from toecutter:

http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=1...

### For AFCs/RAFCs miscellaneous situations ###

Co-workers having coffee: It is the expected that each person pay
for their own drink.
Co-workers having drinks: It is the expected that each person pay
for their own drink. Or to take turns buying drinks.
New HB + you having coffee: Play it by ear, but expect to pay. No
big deal. Coffe & a snack is usually only a few dollars.
New HB + you having drinks: Play it by ear, but expect to pay the
first round. Let her pay the second, thjen play it by ear from
there.
First date: PUAs don't "date" girls they aren't already fucking.

One way to diffuse a situation where you are paying for a first
coffee meeting, especially if the subject comes up, just be playful
and say "I'll get it this time, you can get it next time."

### For PUAs in miscellaneous situations ###

Well, PUAs already know the score on this...

Q:"How do I get a woman (or women) to come back to my place the same
day I meet her/them?"

A: Give her an excuse to go to your place. You want to show her the
photos &lt;of what ever you were talking about&gt; / play her some
music / have a drink (alcohol especially after closing time) /
forgot your coat / haven&#146;t eaten, and you only have a stomach
for &lt;certain food that you have in your fridge&gt; / play with
your leggo set, whatever.

~toecutter, 2001/01/17

Q:"How do I get a woman (or women) to come back to my place after
we've gotten together one or more times?"

A: See the answer to the previous related question. Invite to see a
video, cook her dinner, etc. (cooking her dinner under these
circumstances is not AFC, it is organizing a meeting on your turf
... get candles burning [that burn at different speeds so the room
gets darker as the night goes on]. You choose the music, the food
[texture baby all the way], etc.)

~toecutter, 2001/01/17

Q:"How do I treat or deal with a woman who doesn't call back or
cancels dates?"

A: It's probably too late. You didn't provide her with your rules up
front. You probably also did not do enough to attract her.

There are some things you can do to set you up to rebound the
situation. Toecutter has posted some good info about this, available
at:

http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=1...
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=1...
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=1...

Q:"How can I avoid a woman telling me 'Let's just be friends.'?"

A: Don't ever supplicate to her. Don't put her on a pedestal. Don't
become her doormat. Don't try to be her girlfriend. Don't become her
girlfirend. Don't act asexual. Always understand that when first
meeting a woman, you must make sure the impression you give is not
one of "nice guy doormat" but rather "strong, dominent, confident,
secure man". Then make sure to make your SOI known (either directly
or through sub-text) and be sure to excite her imagination about
you. Then turn the table around on her and make sure she gets the
impression that you are screening her to be with you rather than the
other way around.

Q:"How do I turn a 'friend' into a 'lover', how can I get out of
LJBF ('Let's Just Be Friends') land, or I've just been LJBF'd - what
do I do?"

A: Once in LJBF land with a particular woman, it's almost impossible
to get out. Rather, you should consider using the LJBF to your
advantage. Hang out with this woman and have her around when you're
out clubbing, bar-hopping, at a restaurant, wherever. Completely
accept the fact that you'll never sleep with this woman and simply
use her as "social proof" when attracting other women. Other women
will see you as more attractive and desirable if they see you with
another woman. The better looking your LJBF girl, the better for
you. In fact, you may even want to introduce the idea of "winging"
with this LJBF woman directly to her: she can help you attract other
women while you help her attract other men. If, however, you're
still adamant about seducing an LJBF woman, read the next Q&A.

Q:"What does 'elicit values' mean? How does one elicit values?"

A: Some guys call this screening but it's also used to get things
from her like mirror and trance words. While in conversation with a
women, you need to ask her questions which lead to her end values
and specific trance words. That will help you lead the conversation
by mirroring back those values and words to her and will also help
you determine if she even qualifies to spend time with you. For
example, you don't simply want to ask "What do you like to do for
fun?" and then leave her answer at that. You want to take her anser
and dig deeper.

Don't know how that works? Watch Jay Leno or David Letterman when
they're interviewing someone. You want to keep asking more and more
deeper questions until you finally get to her value structure and
the specific words that her mind hinges on. Furthering the example,
she says "I like to go fishing with my family." and then you ask
"What specifically you find the most enjoyable about that?" She
might say "Every time my family does it, we have a great time, and
laugh a lot." You ask "So you like to laugh with your family?" She
says "Yeah, it's a great way to escape and laugh and let go." You
say "Yeah, it is great to laugh with your family - my family is like
that. Are you able to escape and let go in other ways in your life?"
She says "Yeah, I like to go to the wharf for lunch and watch the
birds, it's a great way to escape in the middle of the day."

So now after that brief convo, you've established that she likes her
familiy, she likes to laugh and have fun, her familiy is fun, she
likes the water, and enjoys escaping her days by doing something
relaxing. You've also got some trance words and phrases: "great
(time)" "escape" "let go". If you take those values of hers and feed
them back within your own stories and also emphasise her trance
words, you will gain faster and stronger rapport with her and will
more easily be able to capture and lead her imagination, lead her
state.

Q:"What is the 'bitch shield'? How do I bypass it?"

A: The bitch shield is a natural reaction the really hot chicks
(specifically 9s, especially 10s, and usually strippers/dancers)
build up. It's perfectly understandable for her to brush off the
guys who approach. If she's in a crowded club or bar, she has dozens
of guys a night coming up and kissing her ass, buying her drinks,
telling her she's beautiful. She knows she's beautiful. She's been
told that so many times it's as true as saying "the sky is blue".
She can't sleep with, or even have time to get to know all the guys
that come onto her -- there aren't enough hours in the day, even if
she was madly attracted to every single one of them. So she's become
good at brushing guys off. She assumes (rightly so) that every guy
that talks to her would give his right arm to fuck her. She's
probably dying to be swept off her feet, but there's no challenge.
It's like playing Quake on God mode. Its fun at first, but quickly
gets boring.

The way to bypass this is a neg hit. A neg is a neutral comment. Its
not an insult, merely a way of demonstrating that you aren't
impressed (or intimidated) by her beauty. Some examples: "That's so
cute, your nose wiggles when you talk", "I love your hair, is it
dyed?", "Your nails look great. Are they real?" For the last two, if
the hair/nails are dyed/fake, follow up with "oh... well, they look
nice."

You aren't kissing her ass, in fact you might have noticed something
wrong with her perfect form. You might not even want to fuck her!
This confuses the hell out of her, and gets her interested in you.
What's up with this guy? Why isn't he telling me I look like an
angel and buying me drinks like all the other guys (AFCs) do? For a
10, Mystery recommends 3 negs to bring the shield all the way down.
Once its down, you can talk to her like a human being, rather than a
peasant worshipping his goddess.

Note: These are NOT to be used on chicks without a bitch shield.
Doing so will destroy her self esteem.

~maddman75, 2000/11/25

Special note on 10s and how they view their world when it comes to
meeting men: coming soon.

Q:"What is supplication?"

A: Supplication is offering to do something for an HB, while
expecting something from her, such as more time to spend with her,
sex, or any other favor. If you do something for an HB, expecting
anything in return, or in the hopes of showing her that you are a
nice guy that will do things for her, hoping that she will spend
more time with you, you are supplicating. Supplication is also
considered to include gifts, dinners, drinks, flowers, or any other
token meant to buy your way into her good graces. If you wouldn't do
it for no reason for a male friend, then it is probably
supplication.

~Jack 2000/11/17

Q:"What is NLP?"

A: Neuro-Linguistic Programming. Its a branch of psychology that
involves the use of everyday language to induce emotional states
into the person you are talking to. It uses ambiguities, descriptive
words, and subtle mispronunciations to create different emotional
states. It forms the basis for Ross Jeffries' Speed Seduction
coursework and seminars (see below) and is a powerful seduction
tool.

Some people will initially balk at using NLP to seduce, but after
you learn a bit about it you learn to recognize it in other
situations. It's used to get candidates into office, convert
people's religion, sell products, and start wars. Using it to get a
little ass seems almost benign, doesn't it?

~maddman75, 2000/11/25

Q:"What is an 'alpha male'?"

A: Among most primate tribes, there are two types of males. Most of
the pack are beta males. They have no real power, and mate
infrequently. The most dominate male is the alpha. He mates with all
the females, whenever he wants. He is the leader of the pack. The
other apes flock to him, even the beta males.

Humans share some of the same behavior. I'm sure you knew a guy like
this in high school. Coolest guy around. Did whatever he wanted,
whenever he wanted. More girls than he could handle. Relaxed,
comfortable, confident, in control. That is the alpha male, and its
who you need to be to be a PUA.

  Never apologize for your desires
  Never worry about consequences
  Show no fear of talking to people you don't know
  Know that you are the prize
  Say and do what others wish they had the balls to say and do

~maddman75, 2000/11/25

Note: The term "alpha male" has been used most predominantly in the
sciences when referring to wolf packs.

Q:"What is a 'takeaway'?"

Set it up by giving her something she wants, something that makes
her feel good, fascinated...ect... (not money or gifts!) When you
sense her anticipation then you take it away.

example: You just read her a poem. She asks for more. You say, oh
sorry we'll have to do it tommorrow I have to get to class now.

It's simaliar to what a dick tease would do.

~whoisthis19 (greg), 2001/1/10

Q:"What is seduction?"

A: The classical definition of seduction is a means of communication
(verbal or physical) which leads a woman to have strong desires to
have sex with the man who is seducing her. The ASf definition of
seduction is any reasonable method which provides a man with the
ability to consistently get women that he wants to want to have sex
with him. The trick to being a good seductionist is not being able
to use a specific general technique or method and do it perfectly
but rather to find what works best fot you and practice, practice,
practice. Go out into the field and try new things. Find out what
works for you. Use the techiques guys post about as a basis to try
new things, not as something you repeat like a robot.

Q:"Where and how do I start using all this new knowledge?"

A: Everywhere! Try not to let any opportunity slip by. Remember
anytime you go anywhere and do anything you could have an
opportunity to meet an HB. For sarging, try the local malls, book
stores, coffee shops, bars, clubs, or anywhere else you can find a
gathering of people.

How? - here's Mystery's formula: Find, Meet, Attract, Close. Start
wherever you are lacking. If you have no problem starting a
conversation, work on Attract, study eliciting values, storytelling,
mirroring, etc. If talking to strangers (esp. women) makes you
nervous, work on Meet. Go out to the local mall, say hi and smile to
women until this doesn't bother you any more. Just start -
experience will give you your baseline and let you know where you
need work.

~maddman75, 2000/11/25

Q:"How do I ask her if she has a STD (Sexually Transmitted
Disease)?"

A: If it's a concern to you, bring it up before having sex with her.
Some women simply aren't honest about it (due to fear,
embarrassment, or something else) and you should always wear a
condom (duh). Here is a web site about STDs:

http://www.unspeakable.com/std-index.html

Q:"How can I date more than 1 woman at a time?"

A: If you are thinking ONS types or multiple FBs, it doesn't take
much other than your time and how much of it you're willing to give
up. If you're asking how to maintain multiple LTRs (MLTR) without
pissing any of those women off, the best answer is straightforard
honesty. All the women in your MLTR should be accepting of the fact
that you spend your time (and emotions) with other women while you
are also seeing them. But you also have to be OK with the women in
you MLRT being just as free with their relationships. If you are an
MLTR man, or want to be, you have to expect your women will want the
same freedom. You should also expect that "cheating" in those
circumstances is a nonexistent issue because there was honesty up
front. If you want to include a woman in your MLTR but she doesn't
like the idea and wants a monogamous relationship with you then you
really can't give her what she wants and probably should not
establish a relationship unless you're willing to lie to her and
"cheat" in the relationship. And that's not a very good
relationship, is it?

Q:"Are there any regular posters on ASF that I should pay attention
to more than others?"

A: Some don't post as often as others, but here is a list to start
with: Maniac / Maniac High, Mystery / the_master / Stepleader,
Svengali, Nathan Szilard, MrSex4uNYC, Rio, toecutter, whoisthis19,
Nightlight9, Jack "Jetman" (John C. Ryan), ALPHAHOT1, ErosLA77 /
Ross Jeffries, David Shade, Dan Scorpio

There are others I've probably missed. This is just a starting
point.

Q:"Are there any regular posters on ASF that I should try to
ignore?"

A: Just lurk on the group for a while and make that decision for
yourself. An list of suggested killfilters can be found at
http://www.fastseduction.com/filters.shtml

Q:"I have a question about SS (Speed Seduction). Where should I go?"

A:http://www.seduction.com/

Q:"What are some highly recommended books I should read?"

A: An organized list of useful books mentioned on ASF is available
at http://www.fastseduction.com/books.shtml. Doing a few searches at
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi should also yield
some useful recommendations.

Any questions not covered by this FAQ can be researched by using the
ASF searchable archive at http://www.fastseduction.com/, or by
lurking on the ASF newsgroup for at least a couple of weeks. There
is also a free web forum, the PUSHboard (Pick-up University Study
Hall) available at http://www.fastseduction.com/ which is a retro-
moderated board (no spam, no piles of useless posts).

Speed Seduction FAQ
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The Speed Seduction FAQ can be found at:

http://www.seduction.com/faq.html

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