Feeling Comfortable with Patterns and SS
CJ
while now and i use some of the techniqu now and again but i always
face a prob. sometimes i jus dont feel comfortable saying half this
stuff to women. like the patterns, even though they contain great stuff
. it just feels so false. and advice or techniques or even stories of
how any of u have got over this?
thanks CJ
SluttyFox
"CJ" <thez...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You'll get no good advice here...sorry. browse the posting and try some of
the links.
>
>
CJ
posts about speed seduction techniques but Ross jeffries are posted to
this group?
ThrillKill
(in message <1104784731.8...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):
Repetition. Just like any other skill, there's no shortcut. If you feel
"funny" or "false", that will go away after your first score. Until then,
repetition.
Good luck.
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ThrillKill
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Speak for yourself.
SluttyFox
> what advice and help does this group offfer then. i asked bcos most
> posts about speed seduction techniques but Ross jeffries are posted to
> this group?
I like fastseduction.com..check it out...its free.
>
>
Ray Gordon
communicating seductively, BUT I also believe it works best if there is some
underlying attraction that she wants taken further to begin with.
Generally, your opinion of SS should reflect your overall opinion of NLP, as
it is NLP applied to seduction. NLP is a persuasion tool; some swear by it,
while others swear at it. Many players deem it unnecessary, while others
wouldn't dream of not using it.
My personal view is that I practice erotic hypnosis, and NLP is more
conversational hypnosis. I prefer to find women who want to explore
hypnosis and who are into me for that reason, which is not exactly the same
thing as one might do through NLP, although there are women who are into NLP
as well and for them it would be a useful "gimmick."
--
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aardvark9084
look at it this way...
if you comb your hair or make sure there is no lint on your clothes before
venturing out into chyckworld would any reasonable person look down on it as
"fake"? of course not.
absorbing the technique is like a booster shot. an enhancement to what
you've already have going on for you. you are telking to women in a way that
seems alien to you because you have in the past talked to them in ways that
were not as productive as you would have liked.
as you become more "one" with speed seduction it'll feel more natural and
more of a part of you.
aardvark
Hargg
>
> My personal view is that I practice erotic hypnosis, and NLP is more
> conversational hypnosis. I prefer to find women who want to explore
> hypnosis and who are into me for that reason, which is not exactly the same
> thing as one might do through NLP, although there are women who are into NLP
> as well and for them it would be a useful "gimmick."
>
What the fuck are you trying to say?
CJ
just looking for the best way to apply it. should i learn a pattern
sraight of and say. an i have started thinking in a kind of SS mindset
latly after submerging myself init, so i often think of ss like stuff
to say, but i say them and aint sure if there gona have the sam kinda
effect?
Ray Gordon
>> while now and i use some of the techniqu now and again but i always
>> face a prob. sometimes i jus dont feel comfortable saying half this
>> stuff to women. like the patterns, even though they contain great stuff
>> . it just feels so false. and advice or techniques or even stories of
>> how any of u have got over this?
>>
>> thanks CJ
>>
>
> look at it this way...
>
> if you comb your hair or make sure there is no lint on your clothes before
> venturing out into chyckworld would any reasonable person look down on it
> as
> "fake"? of course not.
Do clothes alter the mental state of those who view them?
Krus T. Olfard
news:1104784731.8...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Here is a suggestion for you to try.
If you analyze the patterns for what makes them work you can then take
those elements and use them to create a pattern that you feel more
comfortable with.
--
KTO
------------------
Everything I post is my opinion. If you don't like my opinions then
killfile me, if you have the balls.
Fast Franky
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> I find SS to be an "accelerator" in that it's a very precise way of
> communicating seductively, BUT I also believe it works best if there
> is some underlying attraction that she wants taken further to begin
> with.
You have a definite point there. The SS techniques that I've read about do
seem to work especially well to accellerate an already existing attraction
although unless the woman finds something about the man unattractive I
think it can also spark an attraction where none existed before.
Like everything else in dealing with other people, whether at seduction or
any other communication, the more comfortable you are with what you are
doing the better you come across. As someone else pointed out, practice
makes a considerable difference in your comfort level.
Krus T. Olfard
Krus T. Olfard
news:1104789874.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
Again, analyze the patterns you have learned to see what elements seem to
do what you want and then figure out how to use those same elements in ways
that you feel more comfortable with. Will they have the same kind of
effect? Probably. You won't know until you try.
It's like any other communication technique. You first learn the technique
then you make it yours.
ags...@yahoo.com
Ray Gordon wrote:
> >
> > look at it this way...
> >
> > if you comb your hair or make sure there is no lint on your clothes
before
> > venturing out into chyckworld would any reasonable person look down
on it
> > as
> > "fake"? of course not.
>
> Do clothes alter the mental state of those who view them?
But of course. Please tell me that wasn't a serious question and you're
just playing stupid.
Regards...
aardvark9084
"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
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said the moron with the altered mental state...
not that you'd ever get it, but, clothes make the man. a guy feels better
when he puts on clothes he feels comfortable in with a given setting. what
does this have to do with how a woman may view them, fathead? we are talking
about how the potential pickup artist views himself, not how others do. pay
attention if you wish to be anything more than the laughing stock you've
shown yourself to be, dopey.
every time you post your filthy spews you give even more proof that you know
absolutely nothing about seduction, pickups, women, or human nature.
whenever you get the urge to respond, feel free to give your mindless mind
the day off and...
shut up, stupid.
aardvark
Ray Gordon
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Yes.
You're equating peacocking with NLP?
I wouldn't go that far.
HC
>Don't buy anything from experts who won't debate on a free speech forum.
Don't take advice from mentally ill newsloons.
Ray Gordon
>
> But of course. Please tell me that wasn't a serious question and you're
> just playing stupid.
I should have added "the same as NLP?"
Are you equating peacocking with NLP?
Johannes Seppi
Did he say anything about peacocking?
Do you know, what a strawman is?
ags...@yahoo.com
You have to excuse my ignorance since I am not familiar with all these
stupid abbreviations and terminology. To me, picking up girls and
hooking up with them is common sense.
In ALL cases, you should be well dressed and neatly groomed to the
standards of your community.
Regards...
Ray Gordon
>
> You have to excuse my ignorance since I am not familiar with all these
> stupid abbreviations and terminology. To me, picking up girls and
> hooking up with them is common sense.
>
> In ALL cases, you should be well dressed and neatly groomed to the
> standards of your community.
Yet I've managed to pull lays while looking way below that standard, like
when I'd go out to a bar after a long day at the computer wearing a t-shirt,
shorts, and having not shaved.
It is very telling, however, as only a minority of women will not view it as
a negative; those women, however, tend to be very high quality.
Paul Robinson
>>>Are you equating peacocking with NLP?
>>
>>You have to excuse my ignorance since I am not familiar with all these
>>stupid abbreviations and terminology. To me, picking up girls and
>>hooking up with them is common sense.
>>
>>In ALL cases, you should be well dressed and neatly groomed to the
>>standards of your community.
>
>
> Yet I've managed to pull lays
Me thinketh thou spreadest Bullshit without a license, yon chaste virgin.
Ray Gordon
Your flawed thinking isn't really my concern.
Johnny McDermot
I am new to this too.
>> sometimes i jus dont feel comfortable saying half this
stuff to women.
I felt wierd when I started. The stuff sounds plain cheesy to men. I
felt false too, but after a few great, astounding successes, I
realised it is real. Real to a woman, to their thought processes - the
path they follow logically when they think, or feel.
Its just not real to men, i think because many men see a bit of skirt,
or a pair of fine breats, and get turned on. This was my problem,
expecting my dick to talk for me. He never has :-).
I have realised that women must have the anticipation, the
fascination, to be tantalised by that first sensitive kiss etc etc. To
take them on an adventure, an adventure of the feelings, the emotions.
The emotions being intricately tied up with the libido. Flirting and
raport building; im getting better at too.
I am new, so my knowledge is still limited, but I have seen the stuff
on the seduction sites to be true and it has worked tremendously for
me so far. I did, and still do practice till I can repeat stuff parrot
style. not because I speak this way - i dont. I do this so that if I
lose my nerve or fall over my tongue, I can recover easier.
At the start, for me, I just simply couldnt remember the stuff when i
had to. I read somewhere 75% preparation. I can agree with that.
I am not a serial shagger either. I never have been, just frustrated I
didnt have a chance with the women I wanted. Im 30 by the way, and
live in the UK.
Any other UK SS'ers out there ?
Johnny
Krus T. Olfard
Hmmmm... nowhere do I see that I wrote anything about 'peacocking' or
'NLP'.
This is the kind of logic that earns ray the respect that he gets on
usenet.
Krus T. Olfard
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Sure he does... he creates them all the time.
ags...@yahoo.com
Ray Gordon wrote:
>
> Yet I've managed to pull lays while looking way below that standard,
like
> when I'd go out to a bar after a long day at the computer wearing a
t-shirt,
> shorts, and having not shaved.
>
> It is very telling, however, as only a minority of women will not
view it as
> a negative; those women, however, tend to be very high quality.
I think you have a warped sense of what is considered "high quality". I
would have to question her quality if she's in a bar and finds you
attractive or as a possible provider when you reek of BO, look like
crap, have no good paying job, live at home with your mother in a small
2 bedroom apartment and yet she overlooks these qualities and has sex
with you anyway. It seems like she is a prostitute of low quality.
If you don't believe me, look at the woman who married Seal. I'm sure
you and Seal are equally aesthetically challenged.
Regards...
Paul Robinson
Your flawed thinking isn't anyone else's concern, either.
highlife66
> If you don't believe me, look at the woman who married Seal. I'm sure
> you and Seal are equally aesthetically challenged.
Ya but Seal can SING!!!