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Welcome To ASF 2.0!! IMPROVED!!!
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BettorO...@aol.com
Apr 25, 2012, 3:20:10 AM4/25/12
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FINALLY, we have our newsgroup and COMMUNITY back!
Commercialism takes a backseat to CONTENT, on-topic discussions, and
cutting-edge debates of the kind that made ASF great, and which
launched the original "seduction community."
This is not an accident. A lot has happened since 2001.
The public now knows that "moderated" (censored) fora are not the
magic bullet that will yield "a hottie in every bed." About the only
thing migration to commercial (censored) environments accomplished was
to trun this COMMUNITY into an INDUSTRY. Prices went UP, even as more
competitors entered the market. Does that make any sense?
People have also grown wise to HATERS and the pathetic noise they
make, as if their presence in a group to which they have no interest
in contributing should not even be questioned. Intense bashing of any
individual is going to call the hater into question, and leave the
audience wondering why the target is "important enough to hate."
Those who relied on hate-marketing in the past have now been left in
the dust.
Many of the problems I warned about ten years ago have now been
detailed on entire websites devoted to problems with the community,
most notably these:
http://www.puahate.com (PUA Hate)
http://www.puafraud.com (PUA Fraud)
That's another problem the haters have. The people who are behind the
hate (it's often business, nothing personal) do NOT want these
"watchdog" sites to be publicized, yet whnever they post their
vitriol, they trigger a response.
The bottom line is that now, today's gurus must compete on ASF, in a
TOTAL FREE-SPEECH environment, and debate fairly, lest the audience
not purchase their offerings. Those who do not have a commercial
agenda, or who do not rely on charging a ton of money for instruction,
will not care either way.
The winner here is you, THE AUDIENCE. You want quality information,
it's here. ANYONE can post here. Don't let the gurus whine and hide
behind their own pages and sites, which may be useful for getting
THEIR message out, but which can hardly be considered unbiased.
Consumers need ALL relevant information. The gurus who do not rip
people off, who have something to teach, and who offer quality
information for free, will be the ones who emerge on top, which is
exactly as it should be.
Welcome to ASF 2.0!!
Ray Gordon
Bettor Off Single: Why Commitment Is A Bad Gamble For Men
http://www.toosmarttofail.com/bos.pdf
(FREE!)
Commercialism takes a backseat to CONTENT, on-topic discussions, and
cutting-edge debates of the kind that made ASF great, and which
launched the original "seduction community."
This is not an accident. A lot has happened since 2001.
The public now knows that "moderated" (censored) fora are not the
magic bullet that will yield "a hottie in every bed." About the only
thing migration to commercial (censored) environments accomplished was
to trun this COMMUNITY into an INDUSTRY. Prices went UP, even as more
competitors entered the market. Does that make any sense?
People have also grown wise to HATERS and the pathetic noise they
make, as if their presence in a group to which they have no interest
in contributing should not even be questioned. Intense bashing of any
individual is going to call the hater into question, and leave the
audience wondering why the target is "important enough to hate."
Those who relied on hate-marketing in the past have now been left in
the dust.
Many of the problems I warned about ten years ago have now been
detailed on entire websites devoted to problems with the community,
most notably these:
http://www.puahate.com (PUA Hate)
http://www.puafraud.com (PUA Fraud)
That's another problem the haters have. The people who are behind the
hate (it's often business, nothing personal) do NOT want these
"watchdog" sites to be publicized, yet whnever they post their
vitriol, they trigger a response.
The bottom line is that now, today's gurus must compete on ASF, in a
TOTAL FREE-SPEECH environment, and debate fairly, lest the audience
not purchase their offerings. Those who do not have a commercial
agenda, or who do not rely on charging a ton of money for instruction,
will not care either way.
The winner here is you, THE AUDIENCE. You want quality information,
it's here. ANYONE can post here. Don't let the gurus whine and hide
behind their own pages and sites, which may be useful for getting
THEIR message out, but which can hardly be considered unbiased.
Consumers need ALL relevant information. The gurus who do not rip
people off, who have something to teach, and who offer quality
information for free, will be the ones who emerge on top, which is
exactly as it should be.
Welcome to ASF 2.0!!
Ray Gordon
Bettor Off Single: Why Commitment Is A Bad Gamble For Men
http://www.toosmarttofail.com/bos.pdf
(FREE!)
Elbis Gazunga
Apr 25, 2012, 6:48:35 AM4/25/12
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 00:20:10 -0700 (PDT), "BettorO...@aol.com"
<BettorO...@aol.com> wrote:
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BettorO...@aol.com
Apr 25, 2012, 8:01:30 AM4/25/12
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Oh those jealous haters...I'm what they call "important enough to
hate." Smart people know what that means.
They're the ones making the noise and bringing the group down. I
won't play their game except to note their foolishness, that they are
off-topic, jealous, have nothing much to offer the world, and lack
bravery when not behind their monitors. Perhaps one day I'll post a
FAQ or two about my haters and include the postings they seem to have
forgotten on their end.
People who want to see other "hater" websites related to PUAs should
try these:
Try my free dating-advice book linked BELOW me if you'd like to judge
my work for yourself.
hate." Smart people know what that means.
They're the ones making the noise and bringing the group down. I
won't play their game except to note their foolishness, that they are
off-topic, jealous, have nothing much to offer the world, and lack
bravery when not behind their monitors. Perhaps one day I'll post a
FAQ or two about my haters and include the postings they seem to have
forgotten on their end.
People who want to see other "hater" websites related to PUAs should
try these:
Try my free dating-advice book linked BELOW me if you'd like to judge
my work for yourself.
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