I'm not NYC, but I'll take a stab at it (lol!) It's because women seem to like to be treated this way, and it's very difficult for them to respect you as a MAN if you don't, and most will say this ain't so, but the proof is in the pudding as they say, And anyway it's not like we wanna treat girls like meat, but as sexual beings, sex objects if you like, but real live, breathing bundles of sexual joy, not just a piece of meat, if that were the case, it would be much easier to just jack off! ;-} -- Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)
>One of the things I have noticed over the last few days from you is, >bitch this, bitch that, here a bitch, there a bitch, everywhere a >bitch.
>I can tell that you see women only as pieces of meat. Okay, lots of >guys like you. (Thank goodness my boyfriend isn't one of them. BTW, >we have an open relationship and neither of us wants to get married.) >What I don't understand is why you are so angry and resentful of women, >why you have so little respect for them, and why you only care about us >as pieces of meat.
>Would you care to explain?
this was covered a long time ago, but I will give my CURRENT feelings on the term BITCH.
first of all, BITCH is a "hunting" term. wing on phone : "I am down here in the village" me on phone : "how are the BITCHES?"
in this context, BITCH is a general description meaning HOT, SEXY CHICKS. I am not and no one I know is interested in non-sexy chicks, so they are automatically cut out of the female population. I would NEVER ask how many FAT or UGLY chicks are in the street... who cares?
BITCH can also be used when it is a stupid woman, or a woman that wants to give you problems with fucking her, or she has a bad attitude.
AFC : "I took her to dinner and she didn't even kiss me good-night" me : "fuck that BITCH!" (not the literal meaning of have intercourse with her, but as in forget her or let this BITCH rot in hell)
more useful lines include:
who IS this BITCH? how do you keep attracting the same stupid BITCHES? what a fucking BITCH! can you BELIEVE this BITCH?
hopefully, you can detect the venom. this has to do with the adversarial nature of the dating game WORLD-WIDE... except maybe in Arabia where they will FUCKING KILL A BITCH THAT GETS OUT OF LINE! or perhaps China... where they kill off baby girls in order to defeat population control measures and provide a SON to their families.
BITCH is an aggressive term, and when I use it, it denotes disgust or a particular WAY you need to visualize certain women.
the PROBLEM occurs when you are dealing with a BITCH and you THINK she is a woman. when you treat her with respect and love and honor and she fucks other guys behind your back... or uses you for money until she meets someone richer then leaves you high and dry...
when I use the term BITCH, it is an indicator that the reader needs to see her in a particular light in order to pull off what I am telling them to do... like if I tell them to use returning-fox:
me: make that woman crawl back to you me: make that girl crawl back to you me: make that BITCH crawk back to you
in the first two examples, it seems like you are doing something to an INNOCENT. a woman or a girl that don't really DESERVE what you are doing to them. it would UNDERMINE what I am saying to use these terms in this context. making THIS BITCH crawl back to him makes him UNDERSTAND why he is doing this. he is doing this because she is a worthless piece of SHIT, not worth his time or money and CERTAINLY not his affection or love. she has made her bed and now it is time for her to lie in it :)
I am angry at women that DESERVE it I am resentful of women that DESERVE it there are many fine and beautiful WOMEN in this world... it's just that the FUCKING BITCHES make you ALL look bad!
why I only care about women as suck-sluts is that that is the only thing that I need from them. I don't need their money. I don't need their companionship. I don't need their friendship. what I NEED is for them to look HOT and be SEXY and fuck and suck me to my heart's content :) as long as they have that covered, we can do ANYTHING ELSE they want to do. that is why fat, ugly chicks are worthless. they can't even DO for me what women (notice I didn't say BITCHES) are supposed to do for me.
at it's best... the male-female relationship is a wonderful and beautiful thing. for the MOST PART though, it is a DEAL made between a man and a woman to GET SOMETHING from each other. the woman wants the man to HERSELF... so she fucks him and sucks him. the man wants the FUCKING AND SUCKING... so he "commits" to the chick (as far as she knows) it is purely business.
as far as your OPEN RELATIONSHIP... OF COURSE your boyfriend thinks you are the cat's meow. you are fucking and sucking him AND putting NO restrictions on him getting fucked and sucked by other girls he encounters at work or at the supermarket or at the game with the fellas or in the strip joints or at the bachelor parties... he is free to be a MAN, and he still has his STEADY SLIT :)
Dear Carol, Despite his deliberately obnoxious tone, MrSex4uNYC is for real. You may not like him, but I guarantee you he is "the goods". Check some of the earlier threads here, and see how women (gasp!) ask for his advice and counsel, give him the same and are treated with respect by him because they offer genuine value to him. You, on the other hand, found him calling women bitches and assumed he is one of those 'hostile' types. WRONG! This guy is actually dealing with women even you would call bitches. He gives them the respect they deserve - no respect at all. As for your trenchant observation: "If I used your standards of definition, then, all men would be dogs, assholes, pigs, idiots and jerks, not just those who show it and remove all doubt" - you're probably right. Just change "all" to "most". For Chrissakes, girl, most men ARE clueless when it comes to women. That's why we're here at alt.seduction.fast - to exchange ideas with guys coming from all different approaches, NYC's included. Carol, you're playing in the Big Leagues, here. You have no idea how transparent you are. NYC could probably 'sarge' you in about 20 minutes, and you'd be saying, "I can't believe I'm doing this!" If you doubt this at all, you've never met a true PUA. Very sincerely, Vince P.S. Feel free to check out http://www.fastseduction.com/ for definitions of terms and use the search engine to follow some of the posts by MRSex4uNYC and read for content.
first of all, if you just got here... search DEJA.COM for all my posts and feel free to read them if you want to THINK you know ANYTHING about what I think.
second, you ALSO don't realize then that I do not respond to flames. I will respond to this ONE... but understand that I don't give a fuck about YOU, your opinions of me, or political correctness AT ALL!
all I DO care about is increasing my efficiency at bedding chicks and helping the other readers here do the same thing... notice the fucking title? alt.SEDUCTION.FAST
>> BITCH is an aggressive term,
>Really?! You could of fooled me.
not relevant to seduction... please remain on-topic
>> and when I use it, it denotes disgust or a >> particular WAY you need to visualize certain women.
>You ALWAYS seem to use it in digusting particular way.
it is possible that since YOU have tuned in, I have only been responding to posts where an aggressive stance is necessary to either COUNTER earlier fuckups or PREVENT future fuckups. when I use it, I use it for a purpose. all I am saying is that I don't ALWAYS use it. I use "chicks" as my term of choice for females, women, chicks, bitches...
>Why are YOU (to all the dummies here: notice that I am ONLY addressing >the MrSex4uNYC guy) so angry with women?
I am angry with women that act stupid, take advantage of guys, try to make relationships into business deals... there are quite a few things that annoy me about chicks... but I am not mad at ALL of them. some women DESERVE good men to treat them right.
>Why do YOU look so down upon us?
I don't look down on women per se. I just realize that if you aren't sexing me, you are useless to me and will be replaced immediately with a more efficient chick OR I won't give you a shot at sexing me from the beginning if I don't think you can handle the job.
for instance, I have learned TONS from Kate. I do not look down on Kate. I look up to Kate... normally when I'm on my back on the bed HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
(note to MrKate: I am just kidding. keep your shirt on :-)
>Why do YOU think that most of us are just bitches?
women are guilty until proven innocent. it is safer for ME to assume they are going to give me irrational problems with fucking them so I can see them coming and counter them effectively. personally... I don't care if a chick is a BITCH or not. her personality has nothing to do with her body, beauty, or sexual skills. it is icing on the cake... but most cake is REALLY GOOD without icing :)
>Why do YOU think most of us have an attitude problem with guys? >(FYI, I'm 5'10", 135#, c-d cup and met this boyfriend of mine when I >was beauty pagent contestant -- yes I won.)
it is not relevant that you seem to be an attractive, sexy, desireable woman. I would have responded to this post if you were a fat hump anyway.
women are JUSTIFIED in having an attitude problem with guys. it is a cycle. women give men a hard time to give up that pussy so when men finally fuck them, they get them back psychologically or just plain dump them for the next chick. women learn that men are assholes and treat the next man badly then get dogged-out again.
>> the PROBLEM occurs when you are dealing with a BITCH and you THINK she is a >> woman.
>Perhaps if you saw us first as people, then as women, and a bitch only >after we've done something TO YOU when we felt that you deserved it, >and you thought it wrong that we did.
ummmmm... no thanks. there is no USE in seeing chicks as PLAIN PEOPLE. if I am not sexually attracted to you, you have no purpose in MY LIFE. guys and BUSTED chicks all fall in the same category. fine chicks are in THEIR OWN CATEGORY! :) you will notice that no one here asks for advice on how to get 5s and below. we all want the 8s - 10s with the 7s being consolation pussy and 6s being desperation pussy. I do see chicks as women, but I am ALWAYS on the lookout for them being BITCHES so I can react accordingly.
>> when I use the term BITCH...
>From what I've seen of you, you ALWAYS use bitch for every woman.
the first thing you ADMITTED above was that you haven't seen MUCH of my posting :)
>> I am angry at women that DESERVE it >> I am resentful of women that DESERVE it
>Again I say, you seem to be angry and resentful of all women, not just >some. What has any or some women done to you that makes you this way?
I am not angry at all women. women have given men in general and me in particular FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE PUZZLES to solve before giving us what you naturally want to give us... sex!
>> there are many fine and beautiful WOMEN in this world... it's just that the >> FUCKING BITCHES make you ALL look bad!
>If I used your standards of definition, then, all men would be dogs, >assholes, pigs, idiots and jerks, not just those who show it and remove >all doubt.
all men ARE dogs. most are too scared to show it though.
>> why I only care about women as suck-sluts is that that is the only thing >that >> I >> need from them. I don't need their money. I don't need their >companionship. >> I don't need their friendship. what I NEED is for them to look HOT and be >> SEXY >> and fuck and suck me to my heart's content :) as long as they have that >> covered, we can do ANYTHING ELSE they want to do. that is why fat, ugly >> chicks >> are worthless. they can't even DO for me what women (notice I didn't say >> BITCHES) are supposed to do for me.
>Is this suppose to make you special or something?
I *AM* SPECIAL :) if you think that you are not special at all... go take some self-esteem classes.
>Don't you think there are women who feel the same way in reverse?
yes. and it's their job to get laid by guys just like it's MY JOB to get laid by chicks.
>> at it's best... the male-female relationship is a wonderful and beautiful >> thing. for the MOST PART though, it is a DEAL made between a man and a >woman >> to GET SOMETHING from each other. the woman wants the man to HERSELF... so >> she >> fucks him and sucks him. the man wants the FUCKING AND SUCKING... so he >> "commits" to the chick (as far as she knows) it is purely business.
>> as far as your OPEN RELATIONSHIP... OF COURSE your boyfriend thinks you are >> the >> cat's meow. you are fucking and sucking him AND putting NO restrictions on >> him >> getting fucked and sucked by other girls he encounters at work or at the >> supermarket or at the game with the fellas or in the strip joints or at the >> bachelor parties... he is free to be a MAN, and he still has his STEADY >SLIT >> :)
>Don't you think I get the same thing in reverse?
yes you are. SO THE FUCK WHAT? I never said that my plan was for all men to take advantage of all women and the women to get nothing out of the deal. NEVER!
an open relationship is MERELY an agreement that if the two of you can't score on a particular night, either one of you can come to the other one and get sex. it's JUST an agreement to have sex with each other... nothing more. it works the same for you as it does for him... hopefully for you, you won't find yourself falling in love with this man and feel the desire to marry this man and become monogamously faithful to this man, because you will be in for a RUDE AWAKENING when you find out you are just reserved pussy.
of course, he is your personal reserved dick, so everything is equal. that's how it should be. congratulations.
>How many guys do you know that could handle this kind of relationship? >(I'd be willing to bet that you couldn't. Which is probably why you >don't have an ongoing relationship with anyone, and have to get a new >one each day.)
>Carol
you'd lose your fucking shirt you stupid bitch!
next time you want to post about my opinions... READ MY FUCKING OPINIONS FIRST! I have stated that the ONLY relationship I could POSSIBLY BEAR is an "open relationship". the more you write about me, the more you demonstrate ignorance about who I am and what I am trying to say on this NG. :)
do yourself a favor and search DEJA with the keyword MLTR
<flame shield on>
if you want to post ON-TOPIC for THIS NG... alt.SEDUCTION.FAST, I will debate ANY pickup-related issues with you. if you desire to bullshit and flame, I will killfile you with the REST of the idiots that I killfiled MONTHS AGO when AOL first attained filters :)
Got flame bait? Hang on... I think I have a few extra asbestos suits around here if anyone wants one. Since I've already got some words down, I'm going to offer my perspective. Take it for what it's worth, or bad mouth me for offering it. Whatever the case, you're just another "bitch" in a world full of them. =) <The problem with the Internet, sarcasm is so rarely recognized for what it is.> Very few people are naturally comfortable around attractive members of the opposite sex. For those that aren't, one of the easiest ways to learn is to observe others who are good at whatever you want to get better at. After observing, you then mimic, modify it to fit your own map of the world, and go from there. From what it seems, a lot of really attractive women are with men who treat them "badly". Of course badly depends on where you are coming from, but usually equates to anything that isn't completely bending over backwards (read: highly AFCish). So Carol, do you have any friends who are with guys who jerk them around, but they still stay? Or do any of the girls you know, even as acquiantences <sp>, seem to be with guys who aren't perfect gentlemen, yet they stay anyway? What is it that happens tohe heads of so many women, that makes them reject someone who will go out of their way to try to make their life better, calling them "boring" or "too easy"... to go in search of the guy who won't put up with their shit? Another theory that I have, on why women on this group are constantly nominalized as "bitches". One of the ways that the mind deals with things that are scary, or hard to understand, or whatever is to put it down... thereby elevating yourself up over it. I am willing to bet that a large majority of people who participate in this forum have had women act "bitchy" to them. Or been, "bitches". I've known some girls (who LJBF'd me) who were proud of how well they could go in and out of "bitch mode". So, there are "bitches" out there and the odds of running into a woman who will act like a "bitch" is pretty high. If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck.... you know the rest.... even if you have to switch some of the words around. If the PUA mindset is built to counter act women's "bitchiness", or to lower the "bitch shield"... then thinking of women as "bitches" is an integral part of the thinking. If the mindset works, then there's no reason to go inside and change it. Once again, that was just my thoughts on the subject. As that, make what you want of them. Then once you're done with that, go back and read them again to figure out what I really said.
>What part of "A question to MrSex4uNYC" didn't you understand, Mr. >Trancer?
>Consider the reason your not doing so well (judging by what you're >saying in your posts here) with your not knowing when to talk, and when >you're not suppose to say nothing at all.
| | > I'm not NYC, but I'll take a stab at it (lol!) | | > Cut Uneccessary | | What part of "A question to MrSex4uNYC" didn't you understand, Mr. | Trancer? | | Consider the reason your not doing so well (judging by what you're | saying in your posts here) with your not knowing when to talk, and when | you're not suppose to say nothing at all.
| | > >One of the things I have noticed over the last few days from you is, | > >bitch this, bitch that, here a bitch, there a bitch, everywhere a | > >bitch. | > > | > >I can tell that you see women only as pieces of meat. Okay, lots of | > >guys like you. (Thank goodness my boyfriend isn't one of them. BTW, | > >we have an open relationship and neither of us wants to get married.) | > >What I don't understand is why you are so angry and resentful of women, | > >why you have so little respect for them, and why you only care about us | > >as pieces of meat. | > > | > >Would you care to explain? | > | > this was covered a long time ago, | | I wasn't here a long time ago, only a few days. | | > but I will give my CURRENT feelings on the | > term BITCH. | | That's nice of you, but it's not what I was asking from you. | > Cut to what I wanted to know | > | > BITCH is an aggressive term, | | Really?! You could of fooled me. | | > and when I use it, it denotes disgust or a | > particular WAY you need to visualize certain women. | | You ALWAYS seem to use it in digusting particular way. | | Why are YOU (to all the dummies here: notice that I am ONLY addressing | the MrSex4uNYC guy) so angry with women? | | Why do YOU look so down upon us? | | Why do YOU think that most of us are just bitches? | | Why do YOU think most of us have an attitude problem with guys? | (FYI, I'm 5'10", 135#, c-d cup and met this boyfriend of mine when I | was beauty pagent contestant -- yes I won.) | | > the PROBLEM occurs when you are dealing with a BITCH and you THINK she is a | > woman. | | Perhaps if you saw us first as people, then as women, and a bitch only | after we've done something TO YOU when we felt that you deserved it, | and you thought it wrong that we did. | | > when I use the term BITCH... | | From what I've seen of you, you ALWAYS use bitch for every woman. | | > I am angry at women that DESERVE it | > I am resentful of women that DESERVE it | | Again I say, you seem to be angry and resentful of all women, not just | some. What has any or some women done to you that makes you this way? | | > there are many fine and beautiful WOMEN in this world... it's just that the | > FUCKING BITCHES make you ALL look bad! | | If I used your standards of definition, then, all men would be dogs, | assholes, pigs, idiots and jerks, not just those who show it and remove | all doubt. | | > why I only care about women as suck-sluts is that that is the only thing that | > I | > need from them. I don't need their money. I don't need their companionship. | > I don't need their friendship. what I NEED is for them to look HOT and be | > SEXY | > and fuck and suck me to my heart's content :) as long as they have that | > covered, we can do ANYTHING ELSE they want to do. that is why fat, ugly | > chicks | > are worthless. they can't even DO for me what women (notice I didn't say | > BITCHES) are supposed to do for me. | | Is this suppose to make you special or something? | | Don't you think there are women who feel the same way in reverse? | | > at it's best... the male-female relationship is a wonderful and beautiful | > thing. for the MOST PART though, it is a DEAL made between a man and a woman | > to GET SOMETHING from each other. the woman wants the man to HERSELF... so | > she | > fucks him and sucks him. the man wants the FUCKING AND SUCKING... so he | > "commits" to the chick (as far as she knows) it is purely business. | > | > as far as your OPEN RELATIONSHIP... OF COURSE your boyfriend thinks you are | > the | > cat's meow. you are fucking and sucking him AND putting NO restrictions on | > him | > getting fucked and sucked by other girls he encounters at work or at the | > supermarket or at the game with the fellas or in the strip joints or at the | > bachelor parties... he is free to be a MAN, and he still has his STEADY SLIT | > :) | | Don't you think I get the same thing in reverse? | | How many guys do you know that could handle this kind of relationship? | (I'd be willing to bet that you couldn't. Which is probably why you | don't have an ongoing relationship with anyone, and have to get a new | one each day.) | | Carol | | -- | * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * | The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!
On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 00:42:01 -0800, Carol Tadae <Carol_Ta...@newgroup.pl> wrote:
| > if you want to post ON-TOPIC for THIS NG... alt.SEDUCTION.FAST, I will debate | > ANY pickup-related issues with you. if you desire to bullshit and flame, I | > will killfile you with the REST of the idiots that I killfiled MONTHS AGO when | > AOL first attained filters :) | | Save yourself a filter, for if I met you in person I would, after just | five minutes, do the same thing I'm doing now... | | GOOD BYE.
YOU CAN'T FIRE ME BECAUSE I QUIT!!!
Thanks for the good laugh.
Are you really polish? I did'nt know polish girls were that bitchy.
In article <385aee58.1060...@news.gte.net>, neonbl...@hotmail.com (Ryan
Anderson) writes: >If the PUA mindset is built to counter act women's >"bitchiness", or to lower the "bitch shield"... then thinking of women >as "bitches" is an integral part of the thinking.
correct.
if you start out OVERPOWERING a girl because you ASSUME she is a BITCH, you can power-down and STILL have her understand that you are POWERFUL, but toning it down because YOU FEEL LIKE IT!
if you start out AFC with a girl, THEN find out she's a BITCH, you are fucked! she will NOT BELIEVE that you are ALL OF A SUDDEN this powerful guy when you were that flower-buying dinner-taking non-kiss-or-sex-getting PUSSY that she has been dating and pimping for your "friendship" since the beginning.
> >I wasn't here a long time ago, only a few days.
> first of all, if you just got here... search DEJA.COM for all my posts and feel > free to read them if you want to THINK you know ANYTHING about what I think.
> second, you ALSO don't realize then that I do not respond to flames. I will > respond to this ONE... but understand that I don't give a fuck about YOU, your > opinions of me, or political correctness AT ALL!
> all I DO care about is increasing my efficiency at bedding chicks and helping > the other readers here do the same thing... notice the fucking title? > alt.SEDUCTION.FAST
> >> BITCH is an aggressive term,
> >Really?! You could of fooled me.
> not relevant to seduction... please remain on-topic
> >> and when I use it, it denotes disgust or a > >> particular WAY you need to visualize certain women.
> >You ALWAYS seem to use it in digusting particular way.
> it is possible that since YOU have tuned in, I have only been responding to > posts where an aggressive stance is necessary to either COUNTER earlier fuckups > or PREVENT future fuckups. when I use it, I use it for a purpose. all I am > saying is that I don't ALWAYS use it. I use "chicks" as my term of choice for > females, women, chicks, bitches...
> >Why are YOU (to all the dummies here: notice that I am ONLY addressing > >the MrSex4uNYC guy) so angry with women?
> I am angry with women that act stupid, take advantage of guys, try to make > relationships into business deals... there are quite a few things that annoy me > about chicks... but I am not mad at ALL of them. some women DESERVE good men > to treat them right.
> >Why do YOU look so down upon us?
> I don't look down on women per se. I just realize that if you aren't sexing > me, you are useless to me and will be replaced immediately with a more > efficient chick OR I won't give you a shot at sexing me from the beginning if I > don't think you can handle the job.
> for instance, I have learned TONS from Kate. I do not look down on Kate. I > look up to Kate... normally when I'm on my back on the bed HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
> (note to MrKate: I am just kidding. keep your shirt on :-)
> >Why do YOU think that most of us are just bitches?
> women are guilty until proven innocent. it is safer for ME to assume they are > going to give me irrational problems with fucking them so I can see them coming > and counter them effectively. personally... I don't care if a chick is a BITCH > or not. her personality has nothing to do with her body, beauty, or sexual > skills. it is icing on the cake... but most cake is REALLY GOOD without icing > :)
> >Why do YOU think most of us have an attitude problem with guys? > >(FYI, I'm 5'10", 135#, c-d cup and met this boyfriend of mine when I > >was beauty pagent contestant -- yes I won.)
> it is not relevant that you seem to be an attractive, sexy, desireable woman. > I would have responded to this post if you were a fat hump anyway.
> women are JUSTIFIED in having an attitude problem with guys. it is a cycle. > women give men a hard time to give up that pussy so when men finally fuck them, > they get them back psychologically or just plain dump them for the next chick. > women learn that men are assholes and treat the next man badly then get > dogged-out again.
> >> the PROBLEM occurs when you are dealing with a BITCH and you THINK she is a > >> woman.
> >Perhaps if you saw us first as people, then as women, and a bitch only > >after we've done something TO YOU when we felt that you deserved it, > >and you thought it wrong that we did.
> ummmmm... no thanks. there is no USE in seeing chicks as PLAIN PEOPLE. if I > am not sexually attracted to you, you have no purpose in MY LIFE. guys and > BUSTED chicks all fall in the same category. fine chicks are in THEIR OWN > CATEGORY! :) you will notice that no one here asks for advice on how to get > 5s and below. we all want the 8s - 10s with the 7s being consolation pussy and > 6s being desperation pussy. I do see chicks as women, but I am ALWAYS on the > lookout for them being BITCHES so I can react accordingly.
> >> when I use the term BITCH...
> >From what I've seen of you, you ALWAYS use bitch for every woman.
> the first thing you ADMITTED above was that you haven't seen MUCH of my posting > :)
> >> I am angry at women that DESERVE it > >> I am resentful of women that DESERVE it
> >Again I say, you seem to be angry and resentful of all women, not just > >some. What has any or some women done to you that makes you this way?
> I am not angry at all women. women have given men in general and me in > particular FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE PUZZLES to solve before giving us what you > naturally want to give us... sex!
> >> there are many fine and beautiful WOMEN in this world... it's just that the > >> FUCKING BITCHES make you ALL look bad!
> >If I used your standards of definition, then, all men would be dogs, > >assholes, pigs, idiots and jerks, not just those who show it and remove > >all doubt.
> all men ARE dogs. most are too scared to show it though.
> >> why I only care about women as suck-sluts is that that is the only thing > >that > >> I > >> need from them. I don't need their money. I don't need their > >companionship. > >> I don't need their friendship. what I NEED is for them to look HOT and be > >> SEXY > >> and fuck and suck me to my heart's content :) as long as they have that > >> covered, we can do ANYTHING ELSE they want to do. that is why fat, ugly > >> chicks > >> are worthless. they can't even DO for me what women (notice I didn't say > >> BITCHES) are supposed to do for me.
> >Is this suppose to make you special or something?
> I *AM* SPECIAL :) if you think that you are not special at all... go take > some self-esteem classes.
> >Don't you think there are women who feel the same way in reverse?
> yes. and it's their job to get laid by guys just like it's MY JOB to get laid > by chicks.
> >> at it's best... the male-female relationship is a wonderful and beautiful > >> thing. for the MOST PART though, it is a DEAL made between a man and a > >woman > >> to GET SOMETHING from each other. the woman wants the man to HERSELF... so > >> she > >> fucks him and sucks him. the man wants the FUCKING AND SUCKING... so he > >> "commits" to the chick (as far as she knows) it is purely business.
> >> as far as your OPEN RELATIONSHIP... OF COURSE your boyfriend thinks you are > >> the > >> cat's meow. you are fucking and sucking him AND putting NO restrictions on > >> him > >> getting fucked and sucked by other girls he encounters at work or at the > >> supermarket or at the game with the fellas or in the strip joints or at the > >> bachelor parties... he is free to be a MAN, and he still has his STEADY > >SLIT > >> :)
> >Don't you think I get the same thing in reverse?
> yes you are. SO THE FUCK WHAT? I never said that my plan was for all men to > take advantage of all women and the women to get nothing out of the deal. > NEVER!
> an open relationship is MERELY an agreement that if the two of you can't score > on a particular night, either one of you can come to the other one and get sex. > it's JUST an agreement to have sex with each other... nothing more. it works > the same for you as it does for him... hopefully for you, you won't find > yourself falling in love with this man and feel the desire to marry this man > and become monogamously faithful to this man, because you will be in for a RUDE > AWAKENING when you find out you are just reserved pussy.
> of course, he is your personal reserved dick, so everything is equal. that's > how it should be. congratulations.
> >How many guys do you know that could handle this kind of relationship? > >(I'd be willing to bet that you couldn't. Which is probably why you > >don't have an ongoing relationship with anyone, and have to get a new > >one each day.)
> >Carol
> you'd lose your fucking shirt you stupid bitch!
> next time you want to post about my opinions... READ MY FUCKING OPINIONS FIRST! > I have stated that the ONLY relationship I could POSSIBLY BEAR is an "open > relationship". the more you write about me, the more you demonstrate ignorance > about who I am and what I am trying to say on this NG. :)
> do yourself a favor and search DEJA with the keyword MLTR
> <flame shield on>
> if you want to post ON-TOPIC for THIS NG... alt.SEDUCTION.FAST, I will debate > ANY pickup-related issues with you. if you desire to bullshit and flame, I > will killfile you with the REST of the idiots that I killfiled MONTHS AGO when > AOL first attained filters :)
> Why do YOU think most of us have an attitude problem with guys? > (FYI, I'm 5'10", 135#, c-d cup and met this boyfriend of mine when I > was beauty pagent contestant -- yes I won.)
Post pics... Nude ones... Bitch.
> Don't you think I get the same thing in reverse?
> How many guys do you know that could handle this kind of relationship? > (I'd be willing to bet that you couldn't. Which is probably why you > don't have an ongoing relationship with anyone, and have to get a new > one each day.)
> Carol
This BITCH sounds like a reject from soc.singles... LOL
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> Got flame bait? Hang on... I think I have a few extra > asbestos suits around here if anyone wants one.
No need, Ryan... It's not even warm in here yet. This is third-class Bitchism at it's best. She thinks she's got a biting wit, but all she' succeeded at doing is looking like a foul-mouthed twit...
BTW, Great post...
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C'mon, settle down, all of you! (Ahem)........... Carol, NYC is fairly liberal with his vernacular. Its up to each of us to respond to that which is relevant and ingnore the rest. I don't like the term bitch but it doesn't stop me from talking to NYC because he will talk to reasonable people with interesting ideas. I find him to be one of the more fair posters in this group.